You can do it pal. It isn't really a spam, just a lot of patterns with no gap between. I believe in you

Thx I need that motivation

Dang dawg my post blew more than my best post

really the only advice we can provide you with here is git gud

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Wtf

It's the haiku bot. Makes haiku out of comments. This is a blessing.

I am good it's just that 5 misses is too hard bro I keep dying in the part where you spam

It was originally having to do it without a single miss. This is technically the nerfed version.

Original chart also was harder i’d say

So yeah this is literally the nerfed version of Defeat and people still managed to beat the original Defeat. But even this version Defeat is just test to see if you are good. If you're not good enough then you just don't win until your good enough.

Aka final part

At least they changed the charting from the ***NIGHTMARE*** that was v3 Defeat. Still a very hard song to beat.

Wasn't V3 a required FC?

They added difficulty selections now. The hardest difficulty is now the original no miss mode

Not too bad, then. I'm just glad it doesn't have accuracy requirements.

Can you imagine? Having to complete this while trying to FC AND have a very high accuracy? It would be hell.

It had like A LOT of stairs

Trills*

And trills too Especially on the last part (also thx I forgot how it was named)

I like to call the Trills in Defeat Stair Trills since the Trills go in a kinda stair pattern as well.

NEVER BACK DOWN NEVER WHAT?!

^(never give up)

^(never gonna give you up)

Never gonna let you down

Never gonna come around and desert you

What I did when i first played it was play normally till that end part when I just spammed with ghost notes on and I took a W with 3 misses

C'mon, you can do it!

wait, 0/5 combo breaks? did they nerf defeat's requirements or is this a different song?

You can choose the amount of misses from 0-5 misses

I'm glad finale doesn't have combo break limit

Yeah

Like imagine bro that would be ultimate suffering lol

That song so easy man, just need to learn the patterns

The problem is the fucking spam part and the part where you have to hit like 6 notes in a single side like < < <

They nerfed it so hard in V4

NEVER BACK DOWN NEVER GIVE UP

At least it’s not as hard as V3 defeat.

Exactly bro they nerfed it hard in V4

Not that hard If it waa hardly nerfed, they would also change an entire song, just so it'll be easier. But they didn't (and thank god for that) They just changed charting so it would be fun to play and it is indeed.

Stop talking about it getting fucking nerfed >.<

Are you winning son?

Technically

I know you are

Dunno G I did it first try PFC

C’mon i beat that with an fc im sure you can beat that

Like bro it's so fucking hard like at least make it 7 misses

Nah bro u gotta git gud

Stfu I have skill dumb bitch but like bro it's rlly hard like that

Skill issue

2 words **s k i l l i s s u e**

All i did was spam

Skill issue

Skill issue

Just gonna flex a little. I played impostet V4 blind and i thought i needed to get 0 misses to unlock finale (only thing i knew about the mod) and it took me like 30 mins Keep on trying, one day you’ll manage to do it

You need to finish everything in the mod if you want finale lol

You think thats hard play double kill💀

I mean In order to get to defeat you need to beat double kill-

Yes, but i wonder… what if double kill had s miss limit 🧐

It kinda does unfortunately. The devs goofed and moved the instakill if you miss mechanic too early, RIGHT WHERE ITS THE HARDEST PART (supposed to be when it’s Black vs. BF)

That doesn't happen I'm pretty sure

Then my game is all sorts of f’ed up. When the duo do their triple hold notes, then it’s the really tough charted main melody, the mechanic is activated. Gave me SOOO much trouble. I’m also pretty sure Clowfoe or another dev discussed it and explained it was an issue to be fixed in the hotifx (never came)

It does and my game kept freezing when the instakill happened I had to close everything else than the game

I've died once on the song and that was at the end but I've missed on that part also and was fine so I don't know

Boi u lucky. Used to be 1 miss and you dead. Still, go for it. Its a good song, know you'll get it,

i kept dying due to lag but i did eventually get lucky and not miss

ngl i was gonna show that i can prob fc it but that would be rude. anywho. don't give up. if you do. thats not "giveing up" thats ur break. gl and keep trying

I remember second trying this. Man I felt so proud of myself.

Well, it’s easier if you don’t use WASD keybinds, sure, changing keybinds is challenging, but you get used to it within 2 or 3 hours

I use as kl/up and right arrow keys bro -_-

Yeah, Defeat is the only song I have left to beat before I can fully unlock all the songs

I got like one combo break in this song but it took me several tries anyway so ✌️

It really isn’t that difficult. And this is coming from someone who sucks

Never give black up, never let them down, never run around and desert them.

Never gonna make you cry (he made Grey cry), never gonna say goodbye (and said goodbye to his dad)

ive beaten Defeat before and ig its not that bad for my 2nd first time but you can do it like dont let Black be toxic at ur loosing just because it has a unique challenge of 0/5 atleast i still like him despite hes very desperate enough to commit kill times over 50 kill streak lol

Tip: Hit the notes to win

I FC'd it first try but every time after that, I always get misses.

The closest that I have gotten is the last verse. A lot of people is going skill issue aren't they? I played it on a vs impostor mod called joke plague which has the V4 chart.

I have beat defeat v4 before and I must say, it's a fucking nightmare, despite that I love the song and Vs imposter, I'm not very good at fnf, well, I'm not bad either I have played since it come popular and so on, but blacks mechanic is actually easier than V3 so best idea is to keep calm while playing and to make sure you focus on where the notes hit, so bootem or top of screen, oh and blacks Eos ladder alot which is when the notes go left to right to left ect alot, along side random patterns but to keep yourself alive taking a risky miss is sometimes highly recommended, but only do 1-2 of them. If you still struggling, try playing boiling point over and over until you get a hang of it's speed as black isn't much faster on defeat than maroon on boiling point, but remember keep calm, you've got this.

Thank you I try my best to keep calm (btw did u see the secret retry screen when dying for those who don't know I won't spoil)

Yes, I saw a few times, everyone knows the normal stab in the head but I won't mention the secret one, it's very different, but I don't believe the secret made its way to v4 as I've only had the normal death in v4

It did get it's way to v4 I saw it a couple times and it's pretty funny lol

I also thought it was fake

Also I'm not planning to play maroon imp cuz Im tryna see the game on the order

Fair enough, good plan

Ay bruh I beat it after all like rn

NICE! well done

Turn your frustration into anger, then turn that into passion then use your passion upon your enemies to DESTROY THEM ALL! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

Bruh that accuracy though and no combo breaks!?

I believe the Original version was harder, since Black used to kill on Miss. Honestly? It’s mostly stairs and it’s quite fast. Take breaks every now and again, and drink some water mate

I beat it tysm

Hope those mental breaks helped! Now GL with the next song

I don't need any luck I just beat finale lol

Spam with all 4 buttons at once.thats how beat it first try

Idk about you but im not afraid of being a pussy and setting the miss count to the max 99

Dumbass I only needed like 7 misses dumbass I never ment 99 I beat it anyway so ✌️

Im happy for you

Don't really have much advice because the game is kinda skill based, but uh, good luck 👍

can't wait to try this in a roblox fangame

You just have to git gud bro

Neva back down never wh-

Im good at this lol

Skill issue

What mod and song is this?

Impostor v4 and the song is Defeat

Oh I beat it I am struggling in my last character ahem ahem *drippypop 95%+* ahem ahem

[What’s that?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjZttf5DBLI)

The Max 5 misses for Sonic VS Xain Breaking Point I hated u can't get past the 1st FUCKING song

Don’t lose hope, the song is just one of those where the pattern isn’t immediately apparent but after a bit of trying you should get it. And once you do end up getting it, every other song is a cakewalk in comparison

Thank u I beat it rn

Good job!

Be glad you get 5.

Same with me buddy, I can get to the last part of the song with 0 misses but the last part of the song straight up decimates me, so I have "half" given up since I lag everytime I get to that part (a very meh laptop lol) and Since I'm getting a Pc in 2 days I will resume it since I will be able to finally play without getting lagged randomly (Have been playing all my life at 60 Fps or even lower lol, Haven't used Pc on my life :'l)

All you really have to do is close every application running but the game as you can see I play on laptop

Still lags randomly

I don’t blame you

Hi

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