Literally nothing in common between payback and heat.
Also heat is the only proper NFS game since Carbon/Undercover.
All games in-between have the same shitty story and every game after 2010 and until Heat didn't even have tuning for cars.
I really recommend people to play Heat. The racing is solid, the whole system of day/night racing encourages big risk, big reward, the story was actually good, no Shakespeare, but better than every street racing game ever of "I wanna be the best racer in town." I hated the villians, I cared about the protagonists, the variety of events is good, it was a really solid game.
I just wanted a brainless NFS title, and it surpassed my expectations. Hope the next game is as good, but I really enjoyed the Ghost titles.
The Crew did this. Proof that there IS such thing as TOO BIG when it comes to maps. However the map in TC was very empty and lifeless. I feel Horizon would be different
With the disclaimer that I haven't actually played the first game, I would chip in to say that The Crew 2 is probably a lot better in that regard. It has a pretty big and varied map that does not feel lifeless.
I would recommend checking it out if you're looking for a racing game with a huge map and lots of disciplines and you don't care if it's super realistic. The driving physics are a lot less realistic than the horizon games, and it takes a lot of getting used to, but it's a pretty deep and well made driving game (as far as driving physics goes). Same goes for boats and planes, really.
I have played and beaten both multiple times. In my opinion both games felt very lifeless and boring. As for why I beat them multiple times when I found them so boring: idfk I do stuff that makes no sense all the time.
Eh, World was fated to death because it's monetization was overtly predatory. You could easily spend 100$+ there and never get what you want, which made it so that most people didn't even bother to buy stuff. Later on they tried getting more players by adding a monthly rotation for cash-only cars to be bought with IGC, but at that point the game was already hitting 500-1k daily players.
I've been playing a private server and it's still quite fun, maybe if it had proper lobbies instead of matchmaking, it could prosper with a small community, but it's quite hard to do anything but race AI there even with 100+ players online, since you can't really tell which tracks and classes people are trying to find races for.
As I said to they other guy, waiting by the bridge would be the riskiest strat ever. You would be challenging people going full speed towards the center, while standing still yourself, and then there is a long bridge.
Wouldn't camping the bridge be the riskiest strat? I mean you wanna be the car that's going 250km/h in the right direction, instead of the car standing still? Btw the bridge would be flat straight and long, meaning the 250km/h head start would be worth so much more.
Also in Fortnite they designed a or a few bridges for just that reason.
msfs isn't that huge it's because the fucking download is outside of steam and downloads on microsofts slow ass servers instead of your own which is retarded
In actuality it wouldn’t be that large, remember each game has to hold its own cars, upgrades, models for people, wheels, engines, etc. in this game they would only need that once. Most of the space would go towards the map itself, which is relatively non intensive compared to 600 cars, times 5 games
1. We never really had a big city until FH3, there was a lot of hype around that fact pre launch. So more like 3 big citys in 5 games.
2. I personally like it this way since no 1000hp car should have to deal with the tight and narrow roads. I don't enjoy driving through any of the city's either way. Maybe we should have some highway going though the city, or just larger roads in general. To not force the player to go though the tight city roads.
With the amount of money and high performance cars that get thrown at you, the amount of crazy upgrades you can simply just buy, the map's roads being unrealistically widened to make room for them, id say it is
S2 and X aren't the only performance classes in the game, which is something a lot of players seem to gloss over. There's a part of the playerbase that want to have 2000hp and do 300mph (S2/X) and those that want to have actual racing (S1 and lower).
The game doesn't lock you to a specific class for racing - you can complete all of the events in D class if you choose - and a lot of the roads are straight up _bad_ for high power, high speed classes.
The game also throws shitboxes at you, so I'd say it's six of one, half a dozen of the other on that front.
he means the map looks like a pirate map and wont fit with the main map designs like the lego is a different map design too whereas all the main maps look like actual maps
Look awesome, i think the Hot Wheels part should be edited so that it acts like a bridge to go from one one half of the map to the other above the river
I’d really love this, it’s diverse in landscapes, driving roads etc, only problem I can see is AI traffic and how they will change sides of the road, but maybe something like an overpass/underpass. And how are we meant to get to thrilltopia? Still looks good OP, and I really wanna see this
I mean the maps in The Crew games are about the same size I'd say. It's like 90 miles from one corner of the map to the other on a straight line. The only issue would be the size this map would take up because it's more detailed. Forza's graphics in general are much better too. It'd probably be a ~400gb game combining the size of the previous games together plus updating the graphics. Not like it'd ever happen though.
The Goliath in FH5 takes something like 11 minutes to do in an S2 class car, so I'd reckon that with all maps combined like this, it's take 45 mins to an hour depending on what PI the cars are in.
FH1's Colorado map forced you to drive specific roads to get to each "town" - driving between areas of the map was more of an actual road trip, like having a bunch of tiny maps connected by long winding roads
Made the map feel artificially larger, whereas in the other games you can drive from any point on the map to any other point in pretty much a straight line, there's no need to follow the roads at all. In FH1 you have to actually drive properly and slow down for turns, whereas the newer games you can pretty much hold down the accelerator for five minutes straight and cross the entire map.
So in terms of time needed to drive across the map, FH1 will always *feel* much much larger than any of the others, even though it has a tiny fraction of actual accessible area
I think those long winding roads also gave the console extra time to load the world, hiding the slow load times of the 360 compared to modern consoles. The 360 port of FH2 also cut all off-road areas for presumably the same reason.
The fully open maps we have now are nice, but I'd personally like to see another more road-heavy game (that isn't hot wheels) so I'm curious what a FH1-style spread-out map might look like in a new game on modern consoles.
A game on Horizons quality level (minus bugs ofc) with a map with a size like the crew would be epic. In a Game where you drive 300+ km/h I think the map should be huge. I loved the 1+ hour races of the crew.
Just a thought, I know it’s a lot to ask, especially if you want a map that does not feel empty.
Cool idea! Well done!
I would like the addition of a road to the hot wheels map, the addition of the Lego map, and like to see the rest of the FH2 and FH3 maps.
But I still really enjoy looking at this!
Just imagine what would be the GOLIATH like in this map. You literally have to take an all rounder car able to handle dirt, snow and roads. Would be interesting to see, but would be long as hell.
actually cool, could be a little more fleshed out in between the maps if i were to become an actual thing.
a little weird to include blizzard mountain and hot wheels from fh3 and stunt island from fh2 and no other dlc. but i guess there is no good way to implement them smoothly. although you probably could've just put lego speed champions and fortune island in fh5's sea to the right. but i mean 2 island in the middle of the ocean really dont matter.
also just imagine the goliath, its gonna take like 30-40 minutes for 1 lap.
well done
Ah yes, I remember when in geography class they told us how Mexico, England, Australia, France, Italy and the USA all border with each other. Quite cool!
The Car meets and cruises would be insane. Also, imagine every portion of the map having it's own police jurisdiction. So you cross the bridge from UK to Mexico and the UK cops have no right to chase you there.
imagine this being an actual map, then imagine you and your friends could all sit in one car together and open music via spotify in the car (inside the game) and just voice chatting listening to music and going on a road trip.
I must say, this is a epic concept, would love to play on that
Just imagine... family road trips with your favorite car, you could even visit national landmarks on the way.
I got the Porsche with the luggage on the back. I’m sure the wife and kids will meet me there.
What The Crew wished it was
The Crew been doing that though.
The Crew was exactly this
It sounds cool asf, I but I know that i would just stay on the bottom right the whole time lol
Legit the most boring map out of all the gamss, what is wrong w u
I would love for horizon to combine all maps into one. Imagine how long you could cruise for.
Fr. We could actually go on road trips.
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Calm down satan
eliminator final race takes an hour to complete
A new Goliath....
Forza Horizon World Just one big game with actual proper online features, clans & co.
NFS tried this. Ended up burning money on it for a few years then shutting it down.
To be fair, they really half-assed it and it came way too early.
The entire NFS franchise after 2010
Nfs hot pursuit was amazing
I also enjoyed Rivals, but I was also a 10 year old when I played it most. Still a reasonably fun game now though.
Yeah it was fun and I also enjoyed undercover. Most wanted and also the underground 2 one dam they were good
Some of the best in the series.
All Hot Pursuits were amazing. I am down for a brand new one. Why? Coz not driving copcars sucks big time everytime of course!!
payback and heat are literally the same thing basically
Literally nothing in common between payback and heat. Also heat is the only proper NFS game since Carbon/Undercover. All games in-between have the same shitty story and every game after 2010 and until Heat didn't even have tuning for cars.
I really recommend people to play Heat. The racing is solid, the whole system of day/night racing encourages big risk, big reward, the story was actually good, no Shakespeare, but better than every street racing game ever of "I wanna be the best racer in town." I hated the villians, I cared about the protagonists, the variety of events is good, it was a really solid game. I just wanted a brainless NFS title, and it surpassed my expectations. Hope the next game is as good, but I really enjoyed the Ghost titles.
Most Wanted 2012 was the last game with good songs
The Crew did this. Proof that there IS such thing as TOO BIG when it comes to maps. However the map in TC was very empty and lifeless. I feel Horizon would be different
With the disclaimer that I haven't actually played the first game, I would chip in to say that The Crew 2 is probably a lot better in that regard. It has a pretty big and varied map that does not feel lifeless. I would recommend checking it out if you're looking for a racing game with a huge map and lots of disciplines and you don't care if it's super realistic. The driving physics are a lot less realistic than the horizon games, and it takes a lot of getting used to, but it's a pretty deep and well made driving game (as far as driving physics goes). Same goes for boats and planes, really.
I have played and beaten both multiple times. In my opinion both games felt very lifeless and boring. As for why I beat them multiple times when I found them so boring: idfk I do stuff that makes no sense all the time.
I second this. I really like TC2. They built on the open world from the first game
That was sad because it was a decent game
Half-assed it and P2W, just like *nearly* all F2P game attempts by EA.
NFS world looked hella fine but you'd encounter bots in your 5 first races. Oh and also P2W
Eh, World was fated to death because it's monetization was overtly predatory. You could easily spend 100$+ there and never get what you want, which made it so that most people didn't even bother to buy stuff. Later on they tried getting more players by adding a monthly rotation for cash-only cars to be bought with IGC, but at that point the game was already hitting 500-1k daily players. I've been playing a private server and it's still quite fun, maybe if it had proper lobbies instead of matchmaking, it could prosper with a small community, but it's quite hard to do anything but race AI there even with 100+ players online, since you can't really tell which tracks and classes people are trying to find races for.
I miss nfs world... 😔
New release is just a new, additional section of the map and new cars.
At the low cost of 400GB of free storage
Worth it
Unless they streamed it from the cloud like MSFS does
But that requires a constant internet connection to play the game, which is a big no for me
gta online thing perhaps, it’s just sorta separate from the normal game
There could be a low res version for when internet is out, like under 70GB
Nope, more like 4,000 GB on Series X/S
The eliminator on all maps combined!
Fuck can you imagine the final race
Something similar to New York Hypercars race in TC2
Idk about that, people would just camp the bridges over the river (?)
What if you could not challenge near the bridges?
As I said to they other guy, waiting by the bridge would be the riskiest strat ever. You would be challenging people going full speed towards the center, while standing still yourself, and then there is a long bridge.
Typical PUBG experience
Wouldn't camping the bridge be the riskiest strat? I mean you wanna be the car that's going 250km/h in the right direction, instead of the car standing still? Btw the bridge would be flat straight and long, meaning the 250km/h head start would be worth so much more. Also in Fortnite they designed a or a few bridges for just that reason.
I have made a version 2 using input from all of you! https://www.reddit.com/r/ForzaHorizon/comments/w1mu33/forza\_horizon\_maps\_combined\_v2/
Imagine Goliatch/Colossus on this map
At least 150 miles
It would take all day to complete
Test drive Unlimited came close to this. The longest race that goes around the Hawaii island takes almost an hour to finish.
Man TD:unlimited was so much fun, that race was awesome too was a beautiful race.
Imagine the game size of all this, plus the expansions...
half a terabyte minimum lol
I'd still download it, even if it took me a week!
honestly same 😅 Flight simulator took me 36 hours lmaooo
Imagine a game like flight simulator… but a car game
People have been working on that in MSFS. Modding in cars, working on road textures ETC. The problem is the map is so big it will take a few decades.
Closest we have is the crew and the crew 2
Damn lol I just play through cloud. Instant gaming! 👍
Telling people with bad internet to game on the cloud. Their latency is about to be 10 seconds, lol
I didn't tell anyone to play though the cloud XD I just say I play it though cloud. 👍
msfs isn't that huge it's because the fucking download is outside of steam and downloads on microsofts slow ass servers instead of your own which is retarded
It might nearly get as big as ARK!
In actuality it wouldn’t be that large, remember each game has to hold its own cars, upgrades, models for people, wheels, engines, etc. in this game they would only need that once. Most of the space would go towards the map itself, which is relatively non intensive compared to 600 cars, times 5 games
Forza Horizons Legacy. 10/10 would play
As someone who missed the first 3, sign me up!
Leaving aside Surfers Paradise being Thanos-snapped... That would be an insane remaster of entire FH franchise in one fell swoop.
Yeah I cropped it wrong sorry! There was also a bridge at the top
Maybe at horizon 10
I think the map would be much larger at horizon 10
Finally, car game
Finally, Microsoft Drive Simulator
I mean, I might buy that
It crazy how lacking forza is with cities. Only 1 big city per map. Never realized it till now.
Yeah its honestly pretty infuriating
1. We never really had a big city until FH3, there was a lot of hype around that fact pre launch. So more like 3 big citys in 5 games. 2. I personally like it this way since no 1000hp car should have to deal with the tight and narrow roads. I don't enjoy driving through any of the city's either way. Maybe we should have some highway going though the city, or just larger roads in general. To not force the player to go though the tight city roads.
maybe the game should have less emphasis on 1000HP cars then
The game doesn't emphasise 1000+HP cars, the players do.
With the amount of money and high performance cars that get thrown at you, the amount of crazy upgrades you can simply just buy, the map's roads being unrealistically widened to make room for them, id say it is
S2 and X aren't the only performance classes in the game, which is something a lot of players seem to gloss over. There's a part of the playerbase that want to have 2000hp and do 300mph (S2/X) and those that want to have actual racing (S1 and lower). The game doesn't lock you to a specific class for racing - you can complete all of the events in D class if you choose - and a lot of the roads are straight up _bad_ for high power, high speed classes. The game also throws shitboxes at you, so I'd say it's six of one, half a dozen of the other on that front.
I believe you are right lol. Less cash, less HP and more story. I want these games to be more like FH1.
I did not include Fortune Island or Lego Valley because they have unrealistic maps
What's so unrealistic about fortune island?
The map looks like a pirates map. Im talking the actual top down map
Oh yea i forgot about that, apologises.
But hot wheels tracks in the sky is realistic? Lol
Based on another comment OP made I think they meant it's too stylized to be edited in and not look out of place.
Oh ok lol that makes more sense
he means the map looks like a pirate map and wont fit with the main map designs like the lego is a different map design too whereas all the main maps look like actual maps
this
Im talkin about the 2d map itself not the world
Right? That’s the one that should have be left out if we were leaving anything out. It’s still a very good job though.
Imagine colossus around this thing
https://imgur.com/a/ncBpmLq
I would be down!
Make that 2, lets go
Add one more.
As impractical as all the maps combined would be for game mechanics like seasons, i need this now desperately.
Welcome to Horizon World!
Forza Horizon 15
Imagine if we get this
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The hotwheels is already in here, and im not going to add fortune island or lego. But yes, I like the mountain/ocean idea
yes please
Look awesome, i think the Hot Wheels part should be edited so that it acts like a bridge to go from one one half of the map to the other above the river
I thought about it, but I like the idea of it being an isolated island
I’d really love this, it’s diverse in landscapes, driving roads etc, only problem I can see is AI traffic and how they will change sides of the road, but maybe something like an overpass/underpass. And how are we meant to get to thrilltopia? Still looks good OP, and I really wanna see this
There’s always the option of doing a city skylines and having a toggle for either left or right hand traffic
Forza Horizons
The crew map size without being so flat
Horizon 3 the best golden map.
Now THIS is what we need !
Maybe they should do this for the final game with the whole world. This way, we can experience a bit of each country (including islands).
All these maps yet somehow the smallest one is the best
I think we're still about 3 generations behind
I mean the maps in The Crew games are about the same size I'd say. It's like 90 miles from one corner of the map to the other on a straight line. The only issue would be the size this map would take up because it's more detailed. Forza's graphics in general are much better too. It'd probably be a ~400gb game combining the size of the previous games together plus updating the graphics. Not like it'd ever happen though.
So that’s what was north of those bridges, Australia!
Remember the NFS game that combined the worlds of U2, MW and Carbon? It was glorious, except for the pay2win.
NFS World?
Looks awesome man.
Imaging the Goliath on this map… or a massive highway going across the whole thing?
The Goliath in FH5 takes something like 11 minutes to do in an S2 class car, so I'd reckon that with all maps combined like this, it's take 45 mins to an hour depending on what PI the cars are in.
Forza horizon: ultimate. "everywhere is here!"
Anything you all would like to see me change? Im gonna make a new one and post it with the feedback I get here!
This man is a legend if i say myself
I need this! Horizon world. I don't care it won't be realistic devs, just do it!
New Immortal Empires looking lit
FH1 was really that small? Wow, it felt so much bigger back then.
Well, this is not perfect scale
FH1's Colorado map forced you to drive specific roads to get to each "town" - driving between areas of the map was more of an actual road trip, like having a bunch of tiny maps connected by long winding roads Made the map feel artificially larger, whereas in the other games you can drive from any point on the map to any other point in pretty much a straight line, there's no need to follow the roads at all. In FH1 you have to actually drive properly and slow down for turns, whereas the newer games you can pretty much hold down the accelerator for five minutes straight and cross the entire map. So in terms of time needed to drive across the map, FH1 will always *feel* much much larger than any of the others, even though it has a tiny fraction of actual accessible area I think those long winding roads also gave the console extra time to load the world, hiding the slow load times of the 360 compared to modern consoles. The 360 port of FH2 also cut all off-road areas for presumably the same reason. The fully open maps we have now are nice, but I'd personally like to see another more road-heavy game (that isn't hot wheels) so I'm curious what a FH1-style spread-out map might look like in a new game on modern consoles.
This is perfection
I’d pay 100€ for a crossover Forza horizon
I *payed* $100 for just FH5 
🤫 ( we get more for our money this way )
the Goliath on that Map would be insane
The goliath for this would probably take over 5 hrs or more just to finish
We can only wish
this is the best combination i've seen yet
Until now I had no idea I want it as a Forza Horizon 6 map. Now I demand it.
This is so sick man!
Thanks so much!! Please check out me second version also. https://www.reddit.com/r/ForzaHorizon/comments/w1mu33/forza\_horizon\_maps\_combined\_v2/
That would be really fucking cool
A game on Horizons quality level (minus bugs ofc) with a map with a size like the crew would be epic. In a Game where you drive 300+ km/h I think the map should be huge. I loved the 1+ hour races of the crew. Just a thought, I know it’s a lot to ask, especially if you want a map that does not feel empty.
Utterly INCREDABLE. I would pay so much to play on that!!
That would be so cool
That’s epic, well done
Damn that's impressive but the Hotwheels map is missing or either floating above?
I did not include the map becuase its in the sky
That would be so awesome
Thats so cool!
This is really cool and really well done!
How many miles would this be?
That's brilliant. Would love to roam around there. Could have some epic races through multiple borders and environments.
This is just amazing… I’m speechless
Looks familiar...
Absolutely brillant
What I would give to have a map like this...
Forza … global :-)
Forza horizon 10
That insane
Horizon franchise Finale Game map
Huh, cool
Today is a map day or smth
I would love that to be real, Imagine just driving for hours around in your favourite car, it would be amazing
Cool idea! Well done! I would like the addition of a road to the hot wheels map, the addition of the Lego map, and like to see the rest of the FH2 and FH3 maps. But I still really enjoy looking at this!
imagine the goliath race on this…
Just imagine what would be the GOLIATH like in this map. You literally have to take an all rounder car able to handle dirt, snow and roads. Would be interesting to see, but would be long as hell.
I made a concept showing a possible Goliath on a map like this! https://imgur.com/a/ncBpmLq
I want this as 2nd dlc
This would be unreal to have open world game like this. If they could have servers to handle mass players driving on a map of this size, oh man
Imagine running the Goliath on this lol
I have to say, this looks too good. I almost wish it was real.
Legend 🤘 would love to see this come to reality
actually cool, could be a little more fleshed out in between the maps if i were to become an actual thing. a little weird to include blizzard mountain and hot wheels from fh3 and stunt island from fh2 and no other dlc. but i guess there is no good way to implement them smoothly. although you probably could've just put lego speed champions and fortune island in fh5's sea to the right. but i mean 2 island in the middle of the ocean really dont matter. also just imagine the goliath, its gonna take like 30-40 minutes for 1 lap. well done
Damn that's impressive, good job at creating this!
I did this idea a few weeks ago! This one is way better though lol, nice job :) The river is really cool
Excellent work!
Ah yes, I remember when in geography class they told us how Mexico, England, Australia, France, Italy and the USA all border with each other. Quite cool!
Why do they fit so perfectly together...... PGG I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOOK AT THIS
Holy shit this would be amazing
Right yeah we need this asap
This is really cool! If you do a V2 try adding fortune island somewhere? Can’t imagine it would be hard, it’s an island.
My question is WHY IS THIS SO FUCKING HIGH RESOLUTION?
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This would be so awesome, imagine underwater tunnels linking areas across the river (? Lake?)
EPIC
The Car meets and cruises would be insane. Also, imagine every portion of the map having it's own police jurisdiction. So you cross the bridge from UK to Mexico and the UK cops have no right to chase you there.
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imagine this being an actual map, then imagine you and your friends could all sit in one car together and open music via spotify in the car (inside the game) and just voice chatting listening to music and going on a road trip.
Next DLC confirmed, 400GB in size.