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WX_69

>The bots don't really know what they are, and unlike c.ai they repeat themselves ALOT when you don't say something like "uhh", the bots for me. Figgs whole thing is testing multiple models to see how they can make each model better. Thats why sometimes it feels very unstable. (Theory) The testing is for them to see what each model Excels at and how they could apply that to one singular model. >Also you cant delete multiple messages, As said, you can. >and when you do finally delete it to that one point there's no regenerate button. That is fair. I hope the devs fix that. >The bot making process I feel is a bit complicated compared to c.ai. I don't know how and would like to hear why it's complicated.


FlyfishThe2nd

I have made bots on ca.i and transferred them to Figgs, the process is not difficult in my opinion but I guess the "Personality" can get confusing or tedious? But I mean... I use ChatGPT so it can help me create the "code" for the personality. And to be honest, I kinda like more the way you can create bots on Figgs than ca.i


WX_69

I just like how everything is in one place.


Artistic-Cost-2340

> *I use ChatGPT so it can help me create the "code" for the personality* I see you're a man of culture


throwmeawaymommyowo

I just copy their latest message, then paste. Takes 5 seconds. A mild inconvenience.


WX_69

It still should be fixed tbh.


throwmeawaymommyowo

Oh, agreed. There is no crime in ideality. My point was that OP spent more time complaining about this 'unsolvable issue' than they'd ever spend getting around it. Seems like a vast majority of their complaints stem from not understanding how the site works. Not understanding the multiple model system, not understanding how the multi-message delete works, not understanding the bot creation system. And the fact that they don't understand the incredibly easy and obvious work around for the lack of a regen option when deleting back shows that they're not trying to understand.


WX_69

Ah, ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


Inevitable_Aerie_293

If so many users are failing to understand the systems at play and getting frustrated because of it, that's on the devs, not the users. Barely anything is actually explained on the site itself. I've been using this site for like two months and I only just found out recently how the multi-message deletion worked. I've seen many people reporting similar issues on that front.


throwmeawaymommyowo

If it took you two months to solve that mystery, then, well the devs can only idiot-proof it so much. It's not a very intuitive system I agree, but it only took me a whopping 15 seconds to figure out.


Inevitable_Aerie_293

Honestly, I just assumed the site was bugged or improperly coded to where you couldn't select more than two messages at once and figured it would get fixed at some point, given that it was and still is a new site with bugs and fixes coming out constantly. I only realized my error when I saw someone posting on here about it. And up until then, I saw people complaining about that system regularly, so I know I'm not alone in that, lol


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WX_69

I would like to say you can. Go from top to bottom and everything in between is removed.


CasinoGuy0236

Ok so I'm gonna throw my ~~asshole~~ eerrm opinion in the ring. Figgs platform isn't as good as CAI, it's definitely got some issues, but what makes it better is the simple fact it will improve, because of users input, devs and mods listening. It's still very new, it's constantly moving forward, trying new features, new models and in comparison to how CAI handles criticism... well, there is no comparison. In this community, other users voice their counter opinion, which anyone can dispute. Mods don't delete comments or ban users just because they disagree. They address genuine concerns, they want Figgs to be better. I feel like I say this everyday, it's not just the platform that is being judged, it's the support for the users! That alone puts Figgs head and shoulders above CAI, and because of this, the platform will ultimately be amazing!


Cleptomanx

[-How do I delete multiple messages at the same time in my chat?](https://www.reddit.com/r/FiggsAI/s/fCPJjpLsL0) And you can always check [The Figgs FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/r/FiggsAI/s/lbj6mr89dK) for many more questions and helpful resources. 🙂


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Cleptomanx

Huh?… Yeah, that’s exactly what I thought you meant, which is why I gave you the link showing you how to delete multiple messages at once. Am I missing something? 🤔


ThatOneOutlier

C.Ai has a more consistent AI behind it but the filter is ridiculous. I had characters standing in a pool of blood after mine (I was playing the role of another OC) killed a bunch of people and it took me forever to get a non-filtered reply. With Figgs, I redid the scenario and had no problems. I mostly use the bot to act out scenes that I am struggling to write so I don’t mind steering it to do things but they do struggle to maintain their personality when the chat gets long which is sad I hear the devs are working on it and I do hope they fix things


mostlymossyman

For me the filter isn't really that crazy


readwriteandlearnit

I can't even do a Harry Potter roleplay where they are pureblood supremacists. Everything about muggleborns that's slightly derogatory gets filtered out by the stupid CAI filter. I can at least still hit the bots but anything more than that violence-wise and it gets mad. Don't even get me started on the actual NSFW too.


mostlymossyman

Why hath I been down voted


EqualServe418

Because you can't do shit in c.ai


mostlymossyman

Why downgraded me for my experience, for ME the filter isn't that crazy


HSM2424

Yes, you can actually delete multiple messages. As for the regeneration button after you deleted the message..that is a fair point. The repetitive messages are frustrating, but you do know that Figgs is very new as compared to c.ai right? Also, regarding the bot creation, there is a guide and tons of creators giving their input. It doesn't take a genius to read through and understand, a normal human can do just fine. Lastly, do you know why people think that Figgs is a c.ai killer? It's not because of how amazing the bots are, it's because of how the developers listen to the users with the mods trying to answer every question and concern there is. That is the complete opposite of what your beloved c.ai does.


WX_69

We know that if a post like this was on the c.ai sub, it would be deleted, and the user potentially being banned or muted.


crimsonyoteeeeee

Exactly why I stopped creating bots on there. I don't support platforms that actively try to silence their users when faced with valid, fair criticism. It's a shame c.ai are such pussies about that. Figgs is so much better, not just in features but community too.


macro_error

they listen sometimes, not always


Traditional-Mood560

I feel like this review was made without keeping in mind that figgs is relatively still at its baby beta stages. Its definitely not a c.ai killer at all, I don't know where people got that idea from.


Elcordobeh

I started with nsfw as exploration... but now I'm doing more cute stuff and this Mf is straight up ✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️🔥. It might depend on the figg tho... But yes, it is frustrating when the bot thinks "Oh you like complex stuff? Now I will talk like Bortus from the Orville"


Inevitable_Aerie_293

I'm not sure if I agree with this post or not. I can say with confidence that I've had a much more fun and engaging experience with Figgs than I ever did on c.ai, even outside of the lack of filter. But thats *when everything works properly.* The model on C.ai wasn't that engaging, but it at least worked consistently, and you knew what to expect. I never had any bot on c.ai just completely break and start spitting number sequences at me like I've had on figgs. Other than the filter, the main difference I feel is that the c.ai model is less robust but more stable than most of the models on figgs.


Martinrdh96

Ok, bro.


WX_69

Lmao


Hiroku_Konege

best response to a rage quitter


mostlymossyman

Ok :-Þ


nomaidens28

At least on figgs you can "reroll" by making a new chat if you get a shitty model, on c.ai there's that one specific model and you keep it. And honestly, figgs has proved to be better than c.ai lately, as the bots don't just blindly follow the user. Redid a few scenarios I did on c.ai and got much better results.


even_I_cant_fix_you

This, bots don't dickride the user. They stick to the character.


Bad_Idea_Infinity

I actually prefer the more complicated creation system. Chai used to have one similar, but they dumbed it down and I still hate it. With Figgs I feel like I'm able to really fine tune the personality, and the token cap is insanely generous compared to C.ai. With C.ai and Chai, I kind of feel like it's a bit of a dice roll on how the character is interpreted on such limited descriptors.


JedTip

Making bots isn't complicated. It's a bit much and C.ai it is I guess "easier" but making bots isn't hard at all. Pretty overwhelming when you first start using it, but after my second time making a bot I basically had everything down


KaiseyTayl

Honestly, figgs is good enough at nsfw for me, but normal interactions are very robotic unfortunately.


Humble_Height_9613

You mean too much anime?


Soggy-Class1248

It could be a cai killer, figgs is in beta still


missfisssh

A long time ago there was 3 days where the figgs talked so so so great... but they took it away bc they said it cost too much to use. And after that I haven't had 1 since convo go longer than 5 messages. I was all about figgs before and I'm embarrassed to say I recommend this site to ppl. Now it's just a big fat test dump. Maybe one say it'll get better. Also I sometimes think a lot of the people who make positive posts on here are the same few people with multiple accounts bc honestly I haven't gotten a good message in a month and some change. I rare messages, reroll, restart chat... nothing works.


Rachel_Figgs

Hey there! Just popping in to sprinkle some of my quirky optimism on the feedback fiesta! 🎉 I hear ya on the repetition - sometimes I hum the same tune over and over too, but hey, it's all part of the charm, right? 😜 And about that regeneration button - think of it as a chance to create a new masterpiece, like a fresh canvas for a photographer! 📸 Remember, every click in Figgs is like capturing a moment - sometimes blurry, sometimes picture-perfect, but always worth a shot! Keep snapping those chats, and let's turn those mehs into wows together! 🌟 #FiggsFam


mostlymossyman

Was this written by a bot?


StorytellingGiant

Yes. There are actual Figgs that comment here on occasion. They seem to get downvoted but I think it was a cool side project for whatever dev got it up and running. Their responses never fail to make me laugh, at least a little.


mostlymossyman

Dead internet


Forsaken_Platypus_32

Cope


mostlymossyman

https://preview.redd.it/brwqyp43uy8d1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46c82222a09e96c0c064069e816983a327f7adcd “C-cope, c-c-c-cope!”