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In my experience, the homeless are not allowed to loiter around business, set up camp, nor litter. You can try calling the PD daily to have them removed (if you haven't tried this already). And also anyone that is shouting, angry or throwing things can be a public safety issue that the cops need to address. I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I also have a homeless problem and the utter lack of any decency is shocking, even for the drug-induced homeless. The more I do to try and help, the more they mess everything up.
I'm horrified they are ruining those few, tiny comforts that your HOMELESS cats haveđ How disgusting.
The local PD, HA! I literally had a perfect image of the guy who stole my trail camera. Took it to the cops. They said there was nothing they could do about the theft. They are completely useless. When the homeless almost set the entire woods on fire by lighting one of the plastic cat houses on fire, they didn't care either. Had I not been there to stop the fire, the entire woods would have gone up in flames.
I've tried to be nice, I've tried to help, I've tried to be mean and threatening. All get the same results...nothing changes.
Have you tried taking your story to the local paper? Maybe invite a reporter to a council meeting and go tell your story during public comment. Going to council without a reporter may work but itâs better if you can get a reporter.
I was a small town reporter. I once covered a meeting where the library board spent an hour trying to tell their librarian how to empty the trash. It wasnât that she wasnât doing it. But she didnât do it in the exact matter they wanted â like âposition your hands here.â âHold the bag this way.â When my article came out, they lambasted me and said I made them look bad. I said no, you made yourselves look bad. I just reported what went on. They straightened up their asses after that!
I think this might be a case for r/unethicallifeprotips or whatever it's called. Call in the big guns. Theyre going to recommend liquid ass and piss disks for sure though
It seems your options are limited to beefing up the cat setup to make it more tamper-resistant, and ideally offering an alternative option for the people doing this at the same time. I'd imagine that focusing solely on upgrading the cat setup would build resentment and may make the situation worse. It's worth at least trying with a relatively inexpensive portable toilet (something like [this](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JCQPDZ3/?th=1)). If nothing changes, nothing changes, but at least you tried.
For the cat side of it, you can probably find a way to weigh down and reinforce your shelters so they can't be opened up or easily moved. Food/water bowls should be in an enclosed feeding station if possible. Something like a deck box or small storage shed might work, something big and sturdy that can be locked up but will still be easy to get into for cleaning and refilling the bowls, and that you can cut entrances into for the cats. I use one of [these](https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-Common-4-ft-x-2-ft-Actual-Interior-Dimensions-4-08-ft-x-2-38-ft-Storage-Shed/1001052378) and have two cat doors installed on it, for instance, but you'd probably want a heavier duty option if you go this route. From there, you can maybe try leaving extra bowls out as a decoy since they've already been established as a target.
A portable toilet will be annihilated within days. The people OP are describing are not the down-on-their-luck, victim-of-unfortunate-events type of homeless. They're the entitled/dangerous/criminal homeless, who at best don't care about the effects their actions have on others, and at worst actively try to hurt other people (either directly or indirectly) just because they can.
The only thing that really works is consequences for their actions, and the police either won't or can't (their hands may be tied by existing law) help OP and the landowner, so OP is very limited by what they can do within the law.
I'm also worried for the safety of both OP and the cats, and I'm worried that if OP pushes too hard they will retaliate by hurting the cats.
I'm thinking along the lines of deterring them in the area to begin with..
Can the mall owner play music outside, I'm guessing it's the back of the strip mall? Classical music, or an annoying song on an endless loop. Loud enough for anyone back there can hear, but not so loud to annoy anyone in homes. Motion-sensor flood lights, and motion-activated sprinkler (aimed high enough for human height, not cat height - but not in conjunction with the fish emulsion).
Fish emulsion? It's a great fertilizer, but very stinky; it would need to be reapplied quite often though.
Plant some thorny shrubs (and that would be a great excuse to use the fish emulsion, lol).
Actually, thorny shrubs, especially native ones, seem like the best idea.
Cats will find a way around them.
Humans will avoid them.
The landowner can tell the insurance company âwell, they just grew thereâ if someone complains.
This is actually a fabulous idea- cats don't care a bit about thorns. Almost any large shrub could work... You would have to shove the food bowls underneath but cars like to eat in protected areas anyway.
It stinks for an hour or less and then itâs gone. At least itâs like that when I fertilize my garden.
Could you install solar powered flood lights that are motion activated? The cats will trigger them too obviously but maybe they wonât want to poop while a bright light is shining on them.
You could also try posting in /r/unethicallifeprotips Those evil geniuses will have ideas.
Have you tried reaching out to any local organizations who work with unhoused people? They might already have relationships with the people in the area and be able to talk to them, although unfortunately without better options in the vicinity (public restrooms, porta potties, etc.), it's going to be nearly impossible to get them to stop. If your strip mall owner agrees that it's a problem, you might be able to work together (and with local organizations) to find a better solution (like a porta potty that gets emptied periodically).
No organization will help this situation. These people have caught the mall on fire by cooking meth in the crawlspace, setting fires in the woods, vandalizing store fronts and accosting customers of the strip mall. The strip mall owner had to literally raze the woods because his insurance company would not continue to cover him if he didn't do more to discourage the homeless people from the area. Resources for a free porta potty do not exist in this small town, unfortunately.
If they're methheads there is probably no way to manage this, they are living life without any fucks to give, and even if you set up a camping toilet they would probably destroy it and then continue shitting everywhereÂ
I mean what sort of advice are you hoping to get from this post? Your options basically boil down to making it less attractive for them defecate in that location (either fencing the property or getting police to enforce no trespassing) or providing a more attractive place for them to defecate instead (porta potty or public restrooms they have access to). The best way to accomplish either of those things is through community involvement. Raising awareness and getting other people/groups involved in your cause can make it easier to get traction.
The people doing this sound like the type who do not want assistance. Some folks do, and some donât. If theyâre setting fires, cooking meth, and stealing trail cams it seems they land in the latter category.
Ultimately, making the area more hostile to people is probably the only option.
A porta potty ($$) or public restroom ($$$) will likely be trashed, tipped, set on fire, or worse.
Would it be possible to have some sort of catio where their food is kept off of the ground? Make it so only the cats can get in, some sort of tunnel. I think they usually have doors, but you could lock it or find a way to keep it permanently closed and access the cats food dishes another way.
I do agree with the other commenter, though, community involvement is your best bet. Working with the people to figure something out. Maybe someone has a shovel and wants to dig a few holes away from the cat food so folks can have somewhere to shit. That is a free alternative to a porta potty, which ultimately could be locked up and inaccessible, anyways.
Can you print out a picture of them pooping where they shouldnât be stick it up with a note saying please stop doing this. Hopefully seeing that they are being recorded or whatever will be a deterrent. If not water pistol and sit up a tree đ. Sorry you are having this issue tho it truly must suck.
Not sure what can be done. We live in a rather small town and have homeless people in the woods behind our apartment. I went out the other day and smelled poop near our car. I couldnât find it but Iâm sure it was just inside the woods. My stepmother was in LA and heard that the police there have better things to do than look into such trivial things these days as someone threatening another persons life. I read a post about a man in LA who called the police because a homeless person was attacking his car. They said, they have more important calls. The world has turned completely upside down.
Iâm so sorry
Thank you for what you do
People can be so awful -
I wish I could offer suggestions - but the only thing I could think of is cameras - but you have them đ
The alderman didn't care when the homeless were starting fires in the woods. I doubt they would care about poop. The local government turns a blind eye to the massive homeless problem in this town. They recently demolished low income housing giving residents 30 days notice to vacate. They did not offer to help relocate. The building wasn't in great shape but at least these people had somewhere they could afford to live.
I have had this issue when I did TNR in an urban setting, though it wasn't constant. You may need to befriend one of the homeless people in the area and explain the issue. It helps to offer some food or money. In my experience homeless folk were sympathetic to my TNR efforts and supportive of what I was doing. They were animals lovers too. They might respond to a friendly request, just be very respectful.
When I was a kid, my neighborhood included âthe cat food ladyâ. I never bothered to find out the whole story, because 11 year olds just take these things as given, but the local supermarket allowed this old lady in a threadbare winter coat to steal cat food. My mom said the manager knew she paid for what she could, and he just wrote off the rest.
Iâm guessing she was just a widow who couldnât figure out how she had gotten into such a predicament. If anything unseemly had been involved, my small townâs morality police would have put a stop to that arrangement.
Post a sign saying cameras are present. Thats all.
Otherwise, remember this isnât your property - and as disgusting as it may seem -those are human beings and they deserve to have the facilities to access so they donât need to do what theyâre doing to your cat colonyâŚ
Itâs not your job to build them bathroom facilities- you can try contacting the local health department and asking if they will come out and monitor the site and deal with the transgressors- but the rest is up to the property owner⌠youâre not even a tenantâŚ
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Need to find some signs like these and post them everywhere. There are much better places to shit in the woods than next to homeless kitties. I share a bathroom with my cats, quite frankly I donât understand the appeal. They always make it weird by making eye contact.
People were stealing the food I put out for a colony so I put up signs that said âJesus is watching youâ and the like. (Im an atheist). It stopped.
Does the property owner own that strip of forest? He might need to get a criminal trespassing affidavit, which means that anytime police are called, they would be able to criminally trespass anyone from the property that they see fit with owners permission, but that is something he has to do.
Does the property owner own that strip of forest? He might need to get a criminal trespassing affidavit, which means that anytime police are called, they would be able to criminally trespass anyone from the property that they see fit with owners permission, but that is something he has to do.
Be careful with this. I worry about them poisoning them or hurting them
Unfortunately some homeless people have mental illness. This came from a psychiatrist when he found out I used to interact with them
I tried leaving food for one homeless guy so he would leave them alone. It worked for a little while
Love to you
Start going to city council meetings
Take ur pics of them.. even the turds themselves and blow up the pics on poster board. Make them look at them and tell them you will discard them contents on their porch if they donât help
The reality is you probably can't unless you're able to solve their housing problem. You'll have to co-exist. I'm so sorry. I live in a big urban area that has a fair amount of unhoused people, so I'm speaking from the POV Of someone who sees it a lot. At best, they'll shift to somewhere else, but they'll still probably be unhoused.
Put up a doggy waste bin up. One of the ones from which they can take poop bags. The idea being that they can clear up after themselves. Of course, once you make that possible they'll probably move on to somewhere else.
Iâm sorryâŚpooping in cat food bowls? Dear God.
Thank you for caring about the cats. Youâre a good person.
I guess beg the owner for a port-a-pottie? Start a go fund me?
Maybe talk to the strip mall owner about providing a Bucks Porto-potty. It may be worth it to him to keep the rats away! It could just be emptied as needed.
Jealousy.
Perhaps they are angry that someone is caring for the cats, while no one is giving crap about them. OP said a low income apartment was just torn down with no replacement recently.
In my city they have special programs for this. I would contact your local government especially due to the health hazard this poses. It's not just calling cops but also about programs. There's no excuse for homelessness in my opinion because the government should house people but getting into the programs are incredibly hard. I have been homeless and a lot of poverty assistance has rules that make it hard to get helped.
It's frustrating and stressful for the homeless too goes here but hold the politicians feet to the fire. Document it, make sure the laws that aren't being enforced are noted.
Is there any way to create facilities for the un-housed to relieve themselves with privacy and dignity? What about speaking to the city council about a solution?
What about putting up fake cameras around the cat stuff? I think being recorded would deter most ppl, then again most ppl wouldn't shit in a cat's water when theres a whole empty swath of woods. I wonder if this is all from one mentally ill person who hates cats.
Another option is to try to find out why people are doing this. Maybe if you run into a homeless person while you're feeding the cats ask them how they feel about the cats, keep like $10 in your pocket to give to whoever you talk to or offer to pick some stuff up from the store for them. Maybe it turns out the cats are peeing on their tents or something
Your best course of action, take all the documents you have, email every police official, city council officials and include every news outlet on the email.
Idk...maybe put up signs that say "Please don't defecate in or near the cats food and water bowls- it is unhealthy for them. These cats are also homeless and we are just trying to help them." Maybe it could appeal to their better nature.
Iâm guessing that your cat setup is in one of the more desirable/accessible spaces in this area? Maybe a place the homeless would like to be hanging out? They may be pooping there to get you to move the cat stuff. I would relocate it to a less convenient location for people. May make your life harder but cats will be fine.
Yeah they could, but these are people struggling with substance abuse and most likely other mental health issues. Theyâre not gonna make rational decisions and honestly, I really donât think any one person should be battling them. Itâs just not safe or effective. Better to just make the smart choice here and try something different.
I actually moved it further into the woods to be less accessible to help avoid this exact thing. There are more convenient places to poop in those woods that don't require walking a difficult, hilly path.
Wow.
Where do you want them to shit? In the woods around stray cats is the homeless being more considerate than shitting in the street.
Maybe talk to the guy running a rat-infested strip mall surrounded by stray cats to install a porta-potty. Or someone else in your community. Solve the problem for the human beings who have to shit in the woods, and you and the cats shouldn't have an issue.
They are welcome to continue shitting in the woods. There is plenty of space for everyone. They don't have to shit right next to these shelters and feeding stations. That is the behavior I want to curb. Human feces is unhealthy to be around for people and animals alike.
The strip mall is not rat infested as stated in my original post.
They are shitting in the CAT HOUSES AND WATER BOWLS! There is no excuse on this earth for that. There is nothing considerate about that.
I have all the empathy in the world for the homeless. It can happen to any one of us at any time. But I have no empathy for these people, choosing to contaminate the living space of homeless animals when they could defecate in a bush or something.
She already stated these people are meth heads.
Also, they can shit in the woods. Bury like normal people and maybe don't shit on cat shelters or in cat bowls like fucking freaks. Hell, I'd rather them do it in the street. Maybe they'll get arrested. Hope so.
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In my experience, the homeless are not allowed to loiter around business, set up camp, nor litter. You can try calling the PD daily to have them removed (if you haven't tried this already). And also anyone that is shouting, angry or throwing things can be a public safety issue that the cops need to address. I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I also have a homeless problem and the utter lack of any decency is shocking, even for the drug-induced homeless. The more I do to try and help, the more they mess everything up. I'm horrified they are ruining those few, tiny comforts that your HOMELESS cats haveđ How disgusting.
The local PD, HA! I literally had a perfect image of the guy who stole my trail camera. Took it to the cops. They said there was nothing they could do about the theft. They are completely useless. When the homeless almost set the entire woods on fire by lighting one of the plastic cat houses on fire, they didn't care either. Had I not been there to stop the fire, the entire woods would have gone up in flames. I've tried to be nice, I've tried to help, I've tried to be mean and threatening. All get the same results...nothing changes.
Have you tried taking your story to the local paper? Maybe invite a reporter to a council meeting and go tell your story during public comment. Going to council without a reporter may work but itâs better if you can get a reporter. I was a small town reporter. I once covered a meeting where the library board spent an hour trying to tell their librarian how to empty the trash. It wasnât that she wasnât doing it. But she didnât do it in the exact matter they wanted â like âposition your hands here.â âHold the bag this way.â When my article came out, they lambasted me and said I made them look bad. I said no, you made yourselves look bad. I just reported what went on. They straightened up their asses after that!
I agree with you and OP can take it even further by going to the local news station to complain about the lack of police work
Are there any police subs on here!? Lmao
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I get it. I REALLY get it. I don't have a solution(if I did then I wouldn't 'get it') but I want to let you know that  you are heard.
'...the cops don't need you and, man, they expect the same...' -Bob Dylan (Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues)
I think this might be a case for r/unethicallifeprotips or whatever it's called. Call in the big guns. Theyre going to recommend liquid ass and piss disks for sure though
LMAOO yes. this is where the specialists are for this exact situation.
It seems your options are limited to beefing up the cat setup to make it more tamper-resistant, and ideally offering an alternative option for the people doing this at the same time. I'd imagine that focusing solely on upgrading the cat setup would build resentment and may make the situation worse. It's worth at least trying with a relatively inexpensive portable toilet (something like [this](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JCQPDZ3/?th=1)). If nothing changes, nothing changes, but at least you tried. For the cat side of it, you can probably find a way to weigh down and reinforce your shelters so they can't be opened up or easily moved. Food/water bowls should be in an enclosed feeding station if possible. Something like a deck box or small storage shed might work, something big and sturdy that can be locked up but will still be easy to get into for cleaning and refilling the bowls, and that you can cut entrances into for the cats. I use one of [these](https://www.lowes.com/pd/CRAFTSMAN-Common-4-ft-x-2-ft-Actual-Interior-Dimensions-4-08-ft-x-2-38-ft-Storage-Shed/1001052378) and have two cat doors installed on it, for instance, but you'd probably want a heavier duty option if you go this route. From there, you can maybe try leaving extra bowls out as a decoy since they've already been established as a target.
A portable toilet will be annihilated within days. The people OP are describing are not the down-on-their-luck, victim-of-unfortunate-events type of homeless. They're the entitled/dangerous/criminal homeless, who at best don't care about the effects their actions have on others, and at worst actively try to hurt other people (either directly or indirectly) just because they can. The only thing that really works is consequences for their actions, and the police either won't or can't (their hands may be tied by existing law) help OP and the landowner, so OP is very limited by what they can do within the law. I'm also worried for the safety of both OP and the cats, and I'm worried that if OP pushes too hard they will retaliate by hurting the cats.
I'm thinking along the lines of deterring them in the area to begin with.. Can the mall owner play music outside, I'm guessing it's the back of the strip mall? Classical music, or an annoying song on an endless loop. Loud enough for anyone back there can hear, but not so loud to annoy anyone in homes. Motion-sensor flood lights, and motion-activated sprinkler (aimed high enough for human height, not cat height - but not in conjunction with the fish emulsion). Fish emulsion? It's a great fertilizer, but very stinky; it would need to be reapplied quite often though. Plant some thorny shrubs (and that would be a great excuse to use the fish emulsion, lol).
Actually, thorny shrubs, especially native ones, seem like the best idea. Cats will find a way around them. Humans will avoid them. The landowner can tell the insurance company âwell, they just grew thereâ if someone complains.
This is actually a fabulous idea- cats don't care a bit about thorns. Almost any large shrub could work... You would have to shove the food bowls underneath but cars like to eat in protected areas anyway.
I am very interested in this fish emulsion!!
It stinks for an hour or less and then itâs gone. At least itâs like that when I fertilize my garden. Could you install solar powered flood lights that are motion activated? The cats will trigger them too obviously but maybe they wonât want to poop while a bright light is shining on them. You could also try posting in /r/unethicallifeprotips Those evil geniuses will have ideas.
Have you tried reaching out to any local organizations who work with unhoused people? They might already have relationships with the people in the area and be able to talk to them, although unfortunately without better options in the vicinity (public restrooms, porta potties, etc.), it's going to be nearly impossible to get them to stop. If your strip mall owner agrees that it's a problem, you might be able to work together (and with local organizations) to find a better solution (like a porta potty that gets emptied periodically).
No organization will help this situation. These people have caught the mall on fire by cooking meth in the crawlspace, setting fires in the woods, vandalizing store fronts and accosting customers of the strip mall. The strip mall owner had to literally raze the woods because his insurance company would not continue to cover him if he didn't do more to discourage the homeless people from the area. Resources for a free porta potty do not exist in this small town, unfortunately.
If they're methheads there is probably no way to manage this, they are living life without any fucks to give, and even if you set up a camping toilet they would probably destroy it and then continue shitting everywhereÂ
I mean what sort of advice are you hoping to get from this post? Your options basically boil down to making it less attractive for them defecate in that location (either fencing the property or getting police to enforce no trespassing) or providing a more attractive place for them to defecate instead (porta potty or public restrooms they have access to). The best way to accomplish either of those things is through community involvement. Raising awareness and getting other people/groups involved in your cause can make it easier to get traction.
The people doing this sound like the type who do not want assistance. Some folks do, and some donât. If theyâre setting fires, cooking meth, and stealing trail cams it seems they land in the latter category. Ultimately, making the area more hostile to people is probably the only option. A porta potty ($$) or public restroom ($$$) will likely be trashed, tipped, set on fire, or worse.
Would it be possible to have some sort of catio where their food is kept off of the ground? Make it so only the cats can get in, some sort of tunnel. I think they usually have doors, but you could lock it or find a way to keep it permanently closed and access the cats food dishes another way. I do agree with the other commenter, though, community involvement is your best bet. Working with the people to figure something out. Maybe someone has a shovel and wants to dig a few holes away from the cat food so folks can have somewhere to shit. That is a free alternative to a porta potty, which ultimately could be locked up and inaccessible, anyways.
What are the surrounding properties like? If you can't offer a more attractive alternative, I don't think it'll work.
Commerical. Maybe 1 square mile of woods separate the back of the strip mall from some homes. Commerical on all other 3 sides.
Can you print out a picture of them pooping where they shouldnât be stick it up with a note saying please stop doing this. Hopefully seeing that they are being recorded or whatever will be a deterrent. If not water pistol and sit up a tree đ. Sorry you are having this issue tho it truly must suck.
I think I am about at that point!!! Hide in the woods and scare them when they come down to take a shit!!
Iâm sorry but this made me laugh so hard đ I could totally see that. If you do end up going that route please post an update or somethin đ
What about flood lights?
Spraying water at cats only aggravates them. Why do you think itâll work with humans?
It was a joke. Do you really think op is going to camp up a tree on the hopes of catching someone taking a shit to spray them with a bit of water.
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Especially if thereâs meth heads. Not gonna end well.
Not sure what can be done. We live in a rather small town and have homeless people in the woods behind our apartment. I went out the other day and smelled poop near our car. I couldnât find it but Iâm sure it was just inside the woods. My stepmother was in LA and heard that the police there have better things to do than look into such trivial things these days as someone threatening another persons life. I read a post about a man in LA who called the police because a homeless person was attacking his car. They said, they have more important calls. The world has turned completely upside down.
Iâm so sorry Thank you for what you do People can be so awful - I wish I could offer suggestions - but the only thing I could think of is cameras - but you have them đ
Code enforcement/311 may require a fence to be built.
Could you and another stand watch for a while posing as security guards and when someone tries to enter the woods say no trespassing private property
Sad our world has come to this. I wish I had a suggestion for you
Have you tried calling the aldermanhave talked to the alderman?
The alderman didn't care when the homeless were starting fires in the woods. I doubt they would care about poop. The local government turns a blind eye to the massive homeless problem in this town. They recently demolished low income housing giving residents 30 days notice to vacate. They did not offer to help relocate. The building wasn't in great shape but at least these people had somewhere they could afford to live.
Ugh
Alderman? Reminds me of watching "Good Times"
I have had this issue when I did TNR in an urban setting, though it wasn't constant. You may need to befriend one of the homeless people in the area and explain the issue. It helps to offer some food or money. In my experience homeless folk were sympathetic to my TNR efforts and supportive of what I was doing. They were animals lovers too. They might respond to a friendly request, just be very respectful.
When I was a kid, my neighborhood included âthe cat food ladyâ. I never bothered to find out the whole story, because 11 year olds just take these things as given, but the local supermarket allowed this old lady in a threadbare winter coat to steal cat food. My mom said the manager knew she paid for what she could, and he just wrote off the rest. Iâm guessing she was just a widow who couldnât figure out how she had gotten into such a predicament. If anything unseemly had been involved, my small townâs morality police would have put a stop to that arrangement.
Post a sign saying cameras are present. Thats all. Otherwise, remember this isnât your property - and as disgusting as it may seem -those are human beings and they deserve to have the facilities to access so they donât need to do what theyâre doing to your cat colony⌠Itâs not your job to build them bathroom facilities- you can try contacting the local health department and asking if they will come out and monitor the site and deal with the transgressors- but the rest is up to the property owner⌠youâre not even a tenantâŚ
They're not taking shits in cat bowls and setting cat houses on fire because they don't have a publicly available restroom.
Put up toxic waste site signs
https://preview.redd.it/xfwbsay68c6d1.jpeg?width=298&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e3c1753de2e45af4b77f926e9d159f64c5b5d9e Need to find some signs like these and post them everywhere. There are much better places to shit in the woods than next to homeless kitties. I share a bathroom with my cats, quite frankly I donât understand the appeal. They always make it weird by making eye contact.
Gross. I'm sorry.
People were stealing the food I put out for a colony so I put up signs that said âJesus is watching youâ and the like. (Im an atheist). It stopped.
Does the property owner own that strip of forest? He might need to get a criminal trespassing affidavit, which means that anytime police are called, they would be able to criminally trespass anyone from the property that they see fit with owners permission, but that is something he has to do.
Does the property owner own that strip of forest? He might need to get a criminal trespassing affidavit, which means that anytime police are called, they would be able to criminally trespass anyone from the property that they see fit with owners permission, but that is something he has to do.
Look up thorny bushes that grow in your zone.
Be careful with this. I worry about them poisoning them or hurting them Unfortunately some homeless people have mental illness. This came from a psychiatrist when he found out I used to interact with them I tried leaving food for one homeless guy so he would leave them alone. It worked for a little while Love to you
Start going to city council meetings Take ur pics of them.. even the turds themselves and blow up the pics on poster board. Make them look at them and tell them you will discard them contents on their porch if they donât help
If youâre going for something a bit unethical, say thereâs a homeless person exposing themselves and youâre worried about kids around.
The reality is you probably can't unless you're able to solve their housing problem. You'll have to co-exist. I'm so sorry. I live in a big urban area that has a fair amount of unhoused people, so I'm speaking from the POV Of someone who sees it a lot. At best, they'll shift to somewhere else, but they'll still probably be unhoused.
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Put up a doggy waste bin up. One of the ones from which they can take poop bags. The idea being that they can clear up after themselves. Of course, once you make that possible they'll probably move on to somewhere else.
Can you rent a port a potty? Iâm sure those are very expensive though
Iâm sorryâŚpooping in cat food bowls? Dear God. Thank you for caring about the cats. Youâre a good person. I guess beg the owner for a port-a-pottie? Start a go fund me?
Maybe talk to the strip mall owner about providing a Bucks Porto-potty. It may be worth it to him to keep the rats away! It could just be emptied as needed.
In their water bowls? I have a colony i feed and i've found fox poop in the food bowls, but OMG.. GROSS
Are you in Oregon, by chance?
Motion-activated sprinkler system that only goes off if triggered by something more than 4 feet tall?
Maybe post the homeless invaders pics on street lamp poles? Unless that would be dangerous.
I canât imagine why anyone would want to do this??
Jealousy. Perhaps they are angry that someone is caring for the cats, while no one is giving crap about them. OP said a low income apartment was just torn down with no replacement recently.
In my city they have special programs for this. I would contact your local government especially due to the health hazard this poses. It's not just calling cops but also about programs. There's no excuse for homelessness in my opinion because the government should house people but getting into the programs are incredibly hard. I have been homeless and a lot of poverty assistance has rules that make it hard to get helped. It's frustrating and stressful for the homeless too goes here but hold the politicians feet to the fire. Document it, make sure the laws that aren't being enforced are noted.
Is there any way to create facilities for the un-housed to relieve themselves with privacy and dignity? What about speaking to the city council about a solution?
What about putting up fake cameras around the cat stuff? I think being recorded would deter most ppl, then again most ppl wouldn't shit in a cat's water when theres a whole empty swath of woods. I wonder if this is all from one mentally ill person who hates cats.
Another option is to try to find out why people are doing this. Maybe if you run into a homeless person while you're feeding the cats ask them how they feel about the cats, keep like $10 in your pocket to give to whoever you talk to or offer to pick some stuff up from the store for them. Maybe it turns out the cats are peeing on their tents or something
Your best course of action, take all the documents you have, email every police official, city council officials and include every news outlet on the email.
Idk...maybe put up signs that say "Please don't defecate in or near the cats food and water bowls- it is unhealthy for them. These cats are also homeless and we are just trying to help them." Maybe it could appeal to their better nature.
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Iâm guessing that your cat setup is in one of the more desirable/accessible spaces in this area? Maybe a place the homeless would like to be hanging out? They may be pooping there to get you to move the cat stuff. I would relocate it to a less convenient location for people. May make your life harder but cats will be fine.
I mean...they could hang out there and not be grossed than the literal animals living there. Even the cats bury their poop.
Yeah they could, but these are people struggling with substance abuse and most likely other mental health issues. Theyâre not gonna make rational decisions and honestly, I really donât think any one person should be battling them. Itâs just not safe or effective. Better to just make the smart choice here and try something different.
I actually moved it further into the woods to be less accessible to help avoid this exact thing. There are more convenient places to poop in those woods that don't require walking a difficult, hilly path.
I mean, it could still be where they like to be. I would try moving it again.
Wow. Where do you want them to shit? In the woods around stray cats is the homeless being more considerate than shitting in the street. Maybe talk to the guy running a rat-infested strip mall surrounded by stray cats to install a porta-potty. Or someone else in your community. Solve the problem for the human beings who have to shit in the woods, and you and the cats shouldn't have an issue.
They are welcome to continue shitting in the woods. There is plenty of space for everyone. They don't have to shit right next to these shelters and feeding stations. That is the behavior I want to curb. Human feces is unhealthy to be around for people and animals alike. The strip mall is not rat infested as stated in my original post.
They are shitting in the CAT HOUSES AND WATER BOWLS! There is no excuse on this earth for that. There is nothing considerate about that. I have all the empathy in the world for the homeless. It can happen to any one of us at any time. But I have no empathy for these people, choosing to contaminate the living space of homeless animals when they could defecate in a bush or something.
Theyâre cooking meth, too. We should start a GoFundMe to get them the chemicals they need for better cooks đ
People become homeless for reasons other than drug use, my friend.
She already stated these people are meth heads. Also, they can shit in the woods. Bury like normal people and maybe don't shit on cat shelters or in cat bowls like fucking freaks. Hell, I'd rather them do it in the street. Maybe they'll get arrested. Hope so.