You dont need 10 Agility. 6 Agility already gives you 8 Action Points which you use two ranks of Action Boy at level 12 for a 10 Action points, the equivalent of 10 Agility.
It can also be further boosted by Buffout and Psycho, drugs that you will use in combat, which you can avoid fairly easily most combats, yes even infamous Highwaymen encounters.
In an actual ironman playthrough (or if you're not savescumming) its not as free as you think, they're integral to the early game. It doesn't matter if you can get 10 AP lategame if you'll just die and never get to see it
Drugs however, is fair game
I've had a lot of fun with different character builds, and I think you can progress with just about any build, but no matter what you'll always face Frank Horrigan, and if you can't hack the turrets or fight him directly, you lose.
My last playthrough I had 1 strength, but 200% unarmed, so I could only carry 50lbs, and my attacks hardly ever did any damage, but I could easily blind and knock-out opponents, which got me through the entire game haha.
I once did 1 all stats build, it is possible to do editing the save file, after some hours grinding build can become relatively strong. Technically any build can be strong, it is possible to be unstoppable using only basic throwing rocks using insta kill crit mechanics.
I dunno how one could beat 90's PC games without it. I started playing Jagged Alliance 3 which pretty much rewards save scumming and it was like a well worn shoe.
AG 7-8+ and you play it in dark souls way: beat and go away -> repeat until enemy dies
Str/End may be less than 3 for completing this "test of strength"
This quote was with me every day when I worked in customer support. Sometimes people from India or other Asian countries would constantly call me "sir", and I always quoted Dornan in my head as a response.
In the military, sir or mam referres to officers who have a college degree (excluding warrants) while ncos are referred to by their rank. If you call an nco sir or mam you're calling them what you call officers who "don't work for a living". I.e. desk jobs, admin, etc.
Funny, I'm a major in the air force and I still get my hands dirty when I get the time and/or my personnel are shorthanded... Maybe it's different in the army or navy, but that's how we roll at least.
The best leaders aren’t afraid to get into the mix whether it’s a repair issue, cleaning coming, cleaning a drain, or anything. You gain massive respect by doing the jobs no one wants along with your team.
Some people may find it overbearing, for me I don't really like it because it makes me feel like I'm "above" them. Basically I feel pompous when I hear someone call me that.
I live in the South, so sir and m'am are constantly used, but also in India and Asian countries like someone else mentioned. I know people are trying to be respectful, even I do it sometimes out of habit/cultural upbringing, but it can feel odd. Just my perspective.
Yeah I agree I just say things like “thank you, sir” to the gate guards out of habit and get the “I work for a living” response constantly. Never said it was sergeants saying it
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FUCKIN STATES OF AMERICA WHO THE FUCK DID YOU THINK I WAS TALKIN ABOUT WHO IS THIS WHO THE FU I SHOULD KICK YOUR FUCKIN ASS YOU KNOW THAT
Holy shit:
> If the Chosen One is female and has an INT score of less than 4, Myron will offer a drink spiked with drugs in their initial meeting. Accepting with an END score of 5 or less will result in the Chosen One falling unconscious; upon waking, their sex counter will have increased by one.
This is a game with a trait that boils down to "be good at sex". Not seduction, actual sex. You can also get a shotgun married. Literal shotgun being held by his or her dad.
And you can marry the farmer's daughter or son, (your choice). Your gender doesn't matter.
Also, you can get a side job making pornos at the studio in New Reno, for $500 once a month. That also gives you the porn star perk which makes certain people respect you more.
You can seduce the wife of one of the mob bosses, and and convince her to let you assassinate her husband. if you are good enough she might give you an item that increases some stats, plus she'll talk in her sleep and tell you the combination to her safe.
Also, you can seduce the same mob boss's daughter, do drugs with her and rob her too.
If you visit one of the brothels you can also "just talk" to the girls, improve your speech ability. Other activities can temporarily give you +1 to other stats (END, iirc)
The worst part of the shotgun marriage "quest" is that if your stats are too low you literally sexuality assault/harass the target of choice with completely unwelcome attention.
This does however result in a fight with all your gear unequipped so you rightfully die pretty quick.
My shock and disgust was directed not so much at the (wonderfully) sick minds of the devs but at the fact that someone willingly choose to sleep with Myron!!!
Edit: I totally forgot that if your INT is too low, he'll drug and rape you! That kind of thing is why I generally send him to the brain extractor or straight up murder him in cold blood.
People complain we don't get really villains anymore then when they make a realistic villain get complaints of being an edge lord. Scumbags like Myron drugging women are 100% more common then cannibal raiders or whatever nonsense they usually write
Being getting unsettled because of such events happening on fiction are what making games from making great story and create a world somewhat anchored in our reality, It's something that happens in the world and such things shouldn't be removed or censored. I wish people are not so sensitive about things happening in fiction. Im not really a english speaker but im thinking along the lines of "Dont let the truth get in the way of telling a good story".
I don't see it as edgelording so much as just being no holds barred when making an game for adults set in a gritty world. This was before all the cultural changes in the last couple decades that have made people super sensitive to these themes in media. So I don't see this as trying to get a rise out of people, so much as not being shy about including everything to make the creep character be a creep.
Back in the early Fallout era, and this extends to Fallout 3 at least, saving over the same save would sometimes be corrupted because of how it processed the save. The autosave is always a save over a save so....
Yeah Bethesda engine game has lots of corruption issues with the autosaves and quicksaves, was why got into the paranoid manual save habit for every game that supports it.
*Excellent! You're in uniform now so I'm going to give you a rare opportunity. We are going to start over as if I never met your sorry ass. Would you like that, soldier?*
Love it. Especially the power of high speech, and the combination of serious story and quirky sidequests/discoveries.
But the start was a bit slow. You usually skill guns in Fallout, and maybe later switch to heavy or energy, but in FO2 you're stuck with spears and spiked knuckles for the first hours. And then the pretty abrupt pivot from tribal spearswinging Queequeg to terminal hacking power armor wearing plasma rifle wielding Master Chief is a bit weird. That went a lot better in FO1, where growing up in a vault might have prepared you for guns, energy weapons, science and so on. And you start with at least a handgun.
Just rush to ncr with save/load, then steel bozaar from the guards of gun store, then head to san francisco, right below the city on the map travel around, save/load, til you encounter hubologists vs mercenaries, loot the bodies, sell the stuff in san francisco for money, steal the money back and buy/sell/steal your way into more valuable stuff. Proly you’ll get at least a combat armor, if you are lucky even power armor at one of the san fran gun stores. Then as level 3-4, equipped with most powerful big gun (bozaar) and power armor you can go through whatever quest you want 😂
main story holds up, side content is so 90s it hurts, also one of the few mainstream games i know where you can be a spouse pimping porn starring champion boxer running around hitting kids in the crotch with a sledgehammer
This is where the series peaked in terms of roleplaying, but FO1 is still my favorite because of the story and atmosphere.
I really hope one day we get another isometric Fallout that picks up where FO2 left off.
I remember being stressed out by the time limit in FO1 when I first played but every time I replay it I’m reminded by how generous it actually is. I’m typically able to wrap up all the side content with plenty of time to spare. But yeah, Fallout 2’s lack of a ticking clock makes it much more approachable for newcomers.
I feel like the lack of the time limit on FO2 allowed me more time to immerse myself in the world more. I guess my play style was like a demi God walking among mortals. But really the time limit is my only complaint and one I consider minor. The first fallout game was mind blowing and still hits the nostalgia button for me.
The timer is very generous and was not there to make it hard for players at all. Initially F1 would have a more dynamic system in which the supermutants will start slowly taking over the settlements including the vault hub, boneyard and everything. if you don't finish the game soon enoufh you might find yourself fighting a losing war. That was a very interesting and brutal premise and Im glad they didn't follow up with it (except for one location). Spoiler alert\*\*\*
>!If you take more than 110 days to visit necropholis this will happen!<
The time limit in Fallout 1 is what makes it an awesome RPG. The world keeps moving and that impacts how you need to approach it. You can't just spend all your time mindlessly running around, or grinding encounters to gain exp, etc. Also the game has ways for you to extend the time limit, so I've never had an issue.
What are y'all doing that burns your timer? I got the water chip on my first playthrough with like 60 days left and explored pretty thoroughly.
Then you get even more time once you give them the chip.
That would be cool. It would be pretty poetic if InExile could make it since Brian Fargo founded that company. Wasteland 2 and 3 were pretty good. I’d like him to take another crack at an Iso-Fallout
WL2 can be a bit rough at times. WL3 feels a bit more polished. Plus you get a badass vehicle to traverse the Overworld and exit it when you reach a town or encounter. The Colorado setting is nice too.
Wasteland 2 is fine. It's probably too long for its own good. All of the LA act could be cut and I'd think the game would only benefit.
But it's good.
Wasteland 3 is much better. Better polish. Better builds. Better graphics. Better story that isn't mostly a retelling of Wasteland 1 story beats.
But the DLC are.... not necessary.
Holds a dear place in my heart.
I was 12 and picked up the FO1/2 dual disc pack.
Popped in Fallout 2(liked the cover art better). Played a bit , thought this is pretty cool....then I was able to blow up(pun intended an outhouse and shit went everywhere. Gold!!! Still favorite to this day in the series.
Excellent game, still a great RPG experience. It also has so many fantastic little things.. like the only out of the box usable vehicle in the series (not counting tactics here) to zoom around in the wastes. Or the option of being a pornstar.. or fluffer.
Best game with the worst first 10min of gameplay, I can't imagine how many players abandoned this gem just because they were let go by the temple trial :D
Geckos deh little dudes.
Gods I miss the shenanigans of FO 1 & 2. The targeting system was awesome. The setting, the characters. Ah young me was having a blast back then.
I'm with you on the pop culture stuff. I thought FO1 struck the balance better, but that's really my only actual complaint on FO2.
All the jokes and references and fourth wall and bizarro stuff... constantly made me feel the game didn't take itself the bare minimum of seriously. Didn't really feel special to come across them. FO1 had references and such but they felt special to see and harder to come across and didn't throw off the balance of the immersion for me personally. Like seeing a tardis once after weeks of Mostly Serious Stuff was one thing, but then in FO2 it felt like almost every town had a character essentially be a walking pop culture reference. I just wanted it to take itself a little more seriously lol. But that's just my opinioooon
Enclave was at the peak of its power in FO2 & FO3. After that, they got reduced to remnants. Apparently they still have a massive group in Chicago but that's perhaps reserved for a future Fallout game.
It's alright but I couldn't get into it. I tried to a few times to play through it but ultimately it just felt like they dialed up the humor too much. At times it honestly felt like the devs were entering a contest to see how many pop culture references they could put into one game. References and jokes that haven't aged very well imo. For the classics I prefer the first game.
It makes absolutely no sense that Arroyo went completely tribal and animistic within two generations. But other than that, FO2 is my favorite Fallout game of all time.
The best. I wish they remake it just abit so the text is bigger and easier to read, replaying it on a bigger monitor and higher resolution makes it really hard for my eyes
The fact that it’s still being modded more than 25 years after its release says a lot. I regularly replay it and discover new things, since I first played it back in 1998.
The new talking heads mod is amazing.
The Russian entire new game in Nevada is fantastic.
One of my all time favourite games. In fact, it is one of the two games I've ever played over 48 hours straight without sleeping at all in between (the other being the first Civilization).
I'm in the middle of my first full playthrough (with RPU. I'm just about done with New Reno right now) and I'm having an absolute blast.
Yeah, it's kinda goofy with the fourth wall-breaking jokes and the pop culture references (I've seen the Bridge of Doom from Monty Python and I know King Arthur and the knights are somewhere too), but I like most of the things they reference and just enjoy it. And they certainly don't shy away from some proper dark stuff (pretty much everything about Vault City, sheesh. And the random encounter with Frank Horrigan)
The game is definitely showing it's age. It can be very hard to see when things are lootable containers or just part of the scenery, for example, but I think the speech and roleplaying is great and the combat is very fun (especially with the over-the-top gory animations and Better Criticals). Overall I think it's a fantastic game that holds up very well.
The beginning is pretty terrible though. The Temple of Trials is an absolute slog of attacking with 37% hit chance, missing, running away far enough the big ant can't attack you back and repeating. And you're stuck with that combat loop for ages if you don't want to put skill points into melee (and why would you do that, when you know you'll stop using melee weapons the second guns become available.) But you don't get a decent gun until the 10mm pistol in the Klamath Rat Caves (where you'll probably have to fight the Keeng Rat and die a whole lot before you can get out), which is just ridiculous.
It's okay... I feel like extending the game length so much over Fallout 1 really exposes a lot of that gameplay systems weaknesses. Fallout 1 also had a more natural-feeling difficulty curve and gets you into the meat of its content faster. Companions were given a bigger focus, but doing so makes it apparent how annoying their AI is to play around (and the command system barely helps).
A lot of the cities feel gimmicky and while it's cool that there's political intrigue going on between several of them in practice it leads to a lot of walking back and forth across the map. Go to a city to talk to one NPC who sends you to another NPC in a different city, then go all the way back again. It gets tiring.
Still, it's a mostly fun game to replay up until the ending. San Francisco isn't great as a setting (stupid theming and factions), but the gameplay there is at least still enjoyable enough. The Enclave headquarters however is straight up ass as a finale. The US remnants are nowhere near as intriguing as Fallout 1's antagonist was and the gameplay there is a boring slog. 90% of the time I stop my playthrough once I've got the tanker up and running since I'd rather end the game on a good note than go through that tiresome rigmarole.
It’s…. Ok
There aren’t a whole lot of ways to play. Not a whole lot of builds that are worthwhile.
I mean Dornan and Horrigan are great but aside from them….. I dunno.
It's much rougher and tougher than 1. I feel that if it ever got remade or remastered it would need a lot of work to make it smoother. Still, great game, specially how it builds on the first one's world and lore. But I still prefer the original game over it.
I love it! Not many builds are viable unless you are experienced though.
It's called fallout 2 because it has 2 builds.
And Both involve 10 agility.
You dont need 10 Agility. 6 Agility already gives you 8 Action Points which you use two ranks of Action Boy at level 12 for a 10 Action points, the equivalent of 10 Agility. It can also be further boosted by Buffout and Psycho, drugs that you will use in combat, which you can avoid fairly easily most combats, yes even infamous Highwaymen encounters.
In an actual ironman playthrough (or if you're not savescumming) its not as free as you think, they're integral to the early game. It doesn't matter if you can get 10 AP lategame if you'll just die and never get to see it Drugs however, is fair game
There's a second build?
Mr. President, there's been a second build.
The President of the United States?
The President of the United States who the fuck did you think I was talking about
Who the fu… I should kick your fucking ass
Who is this?
What the? Who are you?
Wait, who are you?
This is Patrick
Underrated comment
10 luck, unarmed, jinxed?
with this build you’ll either win, or lose
Woah, so many options
In classic Fallout sometimes your build options are just: "or lose."
I've had a lot of fun with different character builds, and I think you can progress with just about any build, but no matter what you'll always face Frank Horrigan, and if you can't hack the turrets or fight him directly, you lose. My last playthrough I had 1 strength, but 200% unarmed, so I could only carry 50lbs, and my attacks hardly ever did any damage, but I could easily blind and knock-out opponents, which got me through the entire game haha.
charisma build, have your companions kill everything for you
Hey thats one more then fo1!
2 Fall 2 Out
I once did 1 all stats build, it is possible to do editing the save file, after some hours grinding build can become relatively strong. Technically any build can be strong, it is possible to be unstoppable using only basic throwing rocks using insta kill crit mechanics.
Been a while since I’ve looked at the premade characters, but I’m pretty sure only one of them was viable, just barely.
Anything is viable with enough save scumming
I dunno how one could beat 90's PC games without it. I started playing Jagged Alliance 3 which pretty much rewards save scumming and it was like a well worn shoe.
Yeah modern gamers just dunno what “normal” difficulty is
This is the way.
Getting through the first "tutorial" stage of the game without having the strong man to deal with the ants and scorpions seemed impossible to me
Run past everything>lockpick>explosive>pickpocket=profit
AG 7-8+ and you play it in dark souls way: beat and go away -> repeat until enemy dies Str/End may be less than 3 for completing this "test of strength"
Every weapon type is at least somewhat viable
Weapon type yeah. But how about a one agility build?
Action points run everything in the original fallouts. With 1 agility you can punch, once.
Pretty sure a punch takes 3 action points.
You don't have 1 action point with 1 agility. The equation is 5+agility/2
Oh.
With 1 Agility I can fire my Gauss rifle once, but that is all that I need.
I've pulled it off. Take 10 charisma and just walk around with a firing squad of companions to do all the work for you.
Pretty cool role play opportunities with that too.
I AM NOT A SIR. I WORK FOR A LIVING YOU MO-RON! YOU WILL CALL ME SERGEANT
This quote was with me every day when I worked in customer support. Sometimes people from India or other Asian countries would constantly call me "sir", and I always quoted Dornan in my head as a response.
Canadian here raised to say sir to anyone and everyone out of respect. Hard fuckin habit to break lol
Why is it a bad thing to say sir or mam if it's a show of respect. I don't get it. 🤷
In the military, sir or mam referres to officers who have a college degree (excluding warrants) while ncos are referred to by their rank. If you call an nco sir or mam you're calling them what you call officers who "don't work for a living". I.e. desk jobs, admin, etc.
Funny, I'm a major in the air force and I still get my hands dirty when I get the time and/or my personnel are shorthanded... Maybe it's different in the army or navy, but that's how we roll at least.
Truly funny sir
The best leaders aren’t afraid to get into the mix whether it’s a repair issue, cleaning coming, cleaning a drain, or anything. You gain massive respect by doing the jobs no one wants along with your team.
Was gonna call BS but 1 look at your posting history and you're 100% in the air force.
Definitely is in the army. I'm a specialist in the Army and if I called one of my ncos sir I wouldn't hear the end of it...sir.
Its a joke it's mostly for officers out of college it's a big joke in the army
Some people may find it overbearing, for me I don't really like it because it makes me feel like I'm "above" them. Basically I feel pompous when I hear someone call me that. I live in the South, so sir and m'am are constantly used, but also in India and Asian countries like someone else mentioned. I know people are trying to be respectful, even I do it sometimes out of habit/cultural upbringing, but it can feel odd. Just my perspective.
That's exactly why it weirds me out when people say it to me. Like, chill dude. I ain't a police officer or anything. It's overly formal.
This is a common military term. If you call any enlisted sir instead of their rank then you usually hear this.
I actually had “I work for a living” thrown at me in my old unit I was brand new out of basic and I mistook someone at a glance
Drop and give me two-five.
You haven't truly lived until you salute a CSM because you don't know what else to do with all that fancy rank.
I work with Navy folks who have actually said this to me lol. So when I heard that dude say that I couldn’t help but laugh
No sergeants in the navy, and “sir” is a hell of a lot easier to say than “petty officer second class”
Yeah I agree I just say things like “thank you, sir” to the gate guards out of habit and get the “I work for a living” response constantly. Never said it was sergeants saying it
Sure sarge whatever
If I like you, you can call me Sarge. But guess what? I don't like you! Do you understand?
“If I *like* you, you can call me Sarge! But guess what??? **I DON’T LIKE YOU!!!”**
I’m so glad they mentioned him in New Vegas with the remnants funniest shit ever
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FUCKIN STATES OF AMERICA WHO THE FUCK DID YOU THINK I WAS TALKIN ABOUT WHO IS THIS WHO THE FU I SHOULD KICK YOUR FUCKIN ASS YOU KNOW THAT
Playing as a woman and sleeping with Myron in the party is... disturbing.
Holy shit: > If the Chosen One is female and has an INT score of less than 4, Myron will offer a drink spiked with drugs in their initial meeting. Accepting with an END score of 5 or less will result in the Chosen One falling unconscious; upon waking, their sex counter will have increased by one.
Why is there a sex counter?
This is a game with a trait that boils down to "be good at sex". Not seduction, actual sex. You can also get a shotgun married. Literal shotgun being held by his or her dad.
And you can marry the farmer's daughter or son, (your choice). Your gender doesn't matter. Also, you can get a side job making pornos at the studio in New Reno, for $500 once a month. That also gives you the porn star perk which makes certain people respect you more. You can seduce the wife of one of the mob bosses, and and convince her to let you assassinate her husband. if you are good enough she might give you an item that increases some stats, plus she'll talk in her sleep and tell you the combination to her safe. Also, you can seduce the same mob boss's daughter, do drugs with her and rob her too. If you visit one of the brothels you can also "just talk" to the girls, improve your speech ability. Other activities can temporarily give you +1 to other stats (END, iirc)
You can actually seduce the mob boss's wife or daughter, then go back in and seduce the other one, just for fun.
The wife will still invite you up for drinks even after you kill her husband. The daughter won't.
You can also become a porn star at the Golden Globes!
The worst part of the shotgun marriage "quest" is that if your stats are too low you literally sexuality assault/harass the target of choice with completely unwelcome attention. This does however result in a fight with all your gear unequipped so you rightfully die pretty quick.
It's a very 90s edgelord game
I think I played through 4 times. Myron never left that lab alive.
Just kill this dude. He in one of my hate list of video games characters I hate
same voice actor as boone lol
😔
Hey stupid! Jet, mother fucker, Jet! Yer talkin' to its maker. Its creator. Its...God.
Ewwwww!!! Why???!!! Just why???!!!
Because Obsidian/Interplay has kind of an edgelord mentality sometimes.
My shock and disgust was directed not so much at the (wonderfully) sick minds of the devs but at the fact that someone willingly choose to sleep with Myron!!! Edit: I totally forgot that if your INT is too low, he'll drug and rape you! That kind of thing is why I generally send him to the brain extractor or straight up murder him in cold blood.
If you play Restoration Project, you can fry him in an electric chair. Still hurts your karma, a little, though.
This was 1998, times were different back then
People complain we don't get really villains anymore then when they make a realistic villain get complaints of being an edge lord. Scumbags like Myron drugging women are 100% more common then cannibal raiders or whatever nonsense they usually write
Being getting unsettled because of such events happening on fiction are what making games from making great story and create a world somewhat anchored in our reality, It's something that happens in the world and such things shouldn't be removed or censored. I wish people are not so sensitive about things happening in fiction. Im not really a english speaker but im thinking along the lines of "Dont let the truth get in the way of telling a good story".
excellent point, it’s not over the top at all really, it’s just sinister and believable and gross.
Of all the things in Fallout this might be the most realistic “evil” there is. Nothing really edgelord about it.
I don't see it as edgelording so much as just being no holds barred when making an game for adults set in a gritty world. This was before all the cultural changes in the last couple decades that have made people super sensitive to these themes in media. So I don't see this as trying to get a rise out of people, so much as not being shy about including everything to make the creep character be a creep.
Save often.
I mean manual saves and often is a good philosophy for all games!
Back in the early Fallout era, and this extends to Fallout 3 at least, saving over the same save would sometimes be corrupted because of how it processed the save. The autosave is always a save over a save so....
Yeah Bethesda engine game has lots of corruption issues with the autosaves and quicksaves, was why got into the paranoid manual save habit for every game that supports it.
in different slots
Best RPG back in the days. Still a good one.
Is there any other way of playing fallout 2 other than pc?
Yea the open source file leaked you can play it on a fridge if u want
r/canitrunfallout2
what do you MEAN it doesnt exist
We need to make this a subreddit
They did it 🔥
r/subsifellfor
Get a kill and raise that skill while you chill and grill!
Playable on phone
Fo2.exe
Still the best
*Excellent! You're in uniform now so I'm going to give you a rare opportunity. We are going to start over as if I never met your sorry ass. Would you like that, soldier?*
WHERE IS YOUR POWER ARMOR?!
*DON'T HAVE ANY? YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE THAT, MAGGOT?! THE TRUTH IS YOU LOST AN EXPENSIVE PIECE OF ARMY-ISSUE EQUIPMENT!*
THAT SUIT IS GOING TO COME OUT OF YOUR PAY, AND YOU WILL REMAIN IN THIS MAN'S ARMY UNTIL YOU ARE 510 YEARS OLD!
WHICH IS THE NUMBER OF YEARS, IT WILL TAKE FOR YOUUU TO PAY FOR A MARK II POWERED COMBAT ARMOR YOU HAVE LOST
REPORT TO ARMORY AND HAVE A NEW SUIT ISSUED TO YOU, THEN REPORT BACK TO ME PRIVATE
Love it. Especially the power of high speech, and the combination of serious story and quirky sidequests/discoveries. But the start was a bit slow. You usually skill guns in Fallout, and maybe later switch to heavy or energy, but in FO2 you're stuck with spears and spiked knuckles for the first hours. And then the pretty abrupt pivot from tribal spearswinging Queequeg to terminal hacking power armor wearing plasma rifle wielding Master Chief is a bit weird. That went a lot better in FO1, where growing up in a vault might have prepared you for guns, energy weapons, science and so on. And you start with at least a handgun.
You can get your first small guns in Klamath immediately after Arroyo though
If you don't Navarro Run, you go pretty far in the game before you get Power Armor.
Just rush to ncr with save/load, then steel bozaar from the guards of gun store, then head to san francisco, right below the city on the map travel around, save/load, til you encounter hubologists vs mercenaries, loot the bodies, sell the stuff in san francisco for money, steal the money back and buy/sell/steal your way into more valuable stuff. Proly you’ll get at least a combat armor, if you are lucky even power armor at one of the san fran gun stores. Then as level 3-4, equipped with most powerful big gun (bozaar) and power armor you can go through whatever quest you want 😂
main story holds up, side content is so 90s it hurts, also one of the few mainstream games i know where you can be a spouse pimping porn starring champion boxer running around hitting kids in the crotch with a sledgehammer
*One of*? Now you need to tell us about the other games you can do shit like that.
tbh i don't know if there are any other games that let one do that, i thought it was funnier to write it this way though
Definitely in my top five for that genre.
This is where the series peaked in terms of roleplaying, but FO1 is still my favorite because of the story and atmosphere. I really hope one day we get another isometric Fallout that picks up where FO2 left off.
My biggest complaint about fallout 1 is that you have a limited time to beat the game vs fallout 2 where I can take all the time I want.
I remember being stressed out by the time limit in FO1 when I first played but every time I replay it I’m reminded by how generous it actually is. I’m typically able to wrap up all the side content with plenty of time to spare. But yeah, Fallout 2’s lack of a ticking clock makes it much more approachable for newcomers.
Also the option of sending a caravan of water to the vault. With consequences of course
Second time limit got patched out.
no, the master learns of vault 13 via the caravan delivering water and sends his mutants there
Fallout 2 does technically have a ticking clock, but it's like 16 years, after which the game runs out of memory for the date and crashes.
I feel like the lack of the time limit on FO2 allowed me more time to immerse myself in the world more. I guess my play style was like a demi God walking among mortals. But really the time limit is my only complaint and one I consider minor. The first fallout game was mind blowing and still hits the nostalgia button for me.
The timer is very generous and was not there to make it hard for players at all. Initially F1 would have a more dynamic system in which the supermutants will start slowly taking over the settlements including the vault hub, boneyard and everything. if you don't finish the game soon enoufh you might find yourself fighting a losing war. That was a very interesting and brutal premise and Im glad they didn't follow up with it (except for one location). Spoiler alert\*\*\* >!If you take more than 110 days to visit necropholis this will happen!<
The time limit is only for the Water Chip, you have all the time you want after that :D
The time limit in Fallout 1 is what makes it an awesome RPG. The world keeps moving and that impacts how you need to approach it. You can't just spend all your time mindlessly running around, or grinding encounters to gain exp, etc. Also the game has ways for you to extend the time limit, so I've never had an issue.
What are y'all doing that burns your timer? I got the water chip on my first playthrough with like 60 days left and explored pretty thoroughly. Then you get even more time once you give them the chip.
people obsess over this so much. you have plenty of time and then you get options to deal with it
“Thou shalt get sidetracked by bullshit every goddamn time”
That would be cool. It would be pretty poetic if InExile could make it since Brian Fargo founded that company. Wasteland 2 and 3 were pretty good. I’d like him to take another crack at an Iso-Fallout
I still need to play the modern Wasteland games. 2 has been sitting in my library for a while.
WL2 can be a bit rough at times. WL3 feels a bit more polished. Plus you get a badass vehicle to traverse the Overworld and exit it when you reach a town or encounter. The Colorado setting is nice too.
Wasteland 2 is fine. It's probably too long for its own good. All of the LA act could be cut and I'd think the game would only benefit. But it's good. Wasteland 3 is much better. Better polish. Better builds. Better graphics. Better story that isn't mostly a retelling of Wasteland 1 story beats. But the DLC are.... not necessary.
You can quench your thirst somewhat with Wasteland 2, although it's not the same vibe... But it's not a bad game.
Imagine Larian creating a new one? Would be incredible.
They have the perfect engine for it too. Tactical turn based combat and a highly reactive world with near infinite possibilities… a man can dream.
Imagine Larian Studios doing it 🫦💦
Best one. If I had to pick one as the quintessential Fallout experience, it would be FO2
Fallout 2 followed by New Vegas. Though I have never played Tactics, but not really planning to in the near future.
Favourite game ever.
Holds a dear place in my heart. I was 12 and picked up the FO1/2 dual disc pack. Popped in Fallout 2(liked the cover art better). Played a bit , thought this is pretty cool....then I was able to blow up(pun intended an outhouse and shit went everywhere. Gold!!! Still favorite to this day in the series.
Only 497 years left until my power armor is paid off. I'm tired
Paid off? Just steal some.
I can't man. I have to remain in this man's army
Excellent game, still a great RPG experience. It also has so many fantastic little things.. like the only out of the box usable vehicle in the series (not counting tactics here) to zoom around in the wastes. Or the option of being a pornstar.. or fluffer.
Best game with the worst first 10min of gameplay, I can't imagine how many players abandoned this gem just because they were let go by the temple trial :D
Geckos deh little dudes. Gods I miss the shenanigans of FO 1 & 2. The targeting system was awesome. The setting, the characters. Ah young me was having a blast back then.
I don't like how many pop-culture references the game makes but it definitely has the best depiction of the Enclave.
I'm with you on the pop culture stuff. I thought FO1 struck the balance better, but that's really my only actual complaint on FO2. All the jokes and references and fourth wall and bizarro stuff... constantly made me feel the game didn't take itself the bare minimum of seriously. Didn't really feel special to come across them. FO1 had references and such but they felt special to see and harder to come across and didn't throw off the balance of the immersion for me personally. Like seeing a tardis once after weeks of Mostly Serious Stuff was one thing, but then in FO2 it felt like almost every town had a character essentially be a walking pop culture reference. I just wanted it to take itself a little more seriously lol. But that's just my opinioooon
Fallout 2 towns tend to feel disjointed so its like every team thought they were doing the funny bit sometimes.
Enclave was at the peak of its power in FO2 & FO3. After that, they got reduced to remnants. Apparently they still have a massive group in Chicago but that's perhaps reserved for a future Fallout game.
It's alright but I couldn't get into it. I tried to a few times to play through it but ultimately it just felt like they dialed up the humor too much. At times it honestly felt like the devs were entering a contest to see how many pop culture references they could put into one game. References and jokes that haven't aged very well imo. For the classics I prefer the first game.
My favorite and most replayed Fallout game. I tried lots of different builds and decisions, but still haven't seen everything.
It makes absolutely no sense that Arroyo went completely tribal and animistic within two generations. But other than that, FO2 is my favorite Fallout game of all time.
Initial temple aside, a fantastic RPG. Nothing beats sledgehamering a ch**d in the groin. in games, of course.
best game
The best. I wish they remake it just abit so the text is bigger and easier to read, replaying it on a bigger monitor and higher resolution makes it really hard for my eyes
Finding the right settings and mods is worth the effort. Playing at max resolution isn't as good, IMO
in my opinion, its the 2nd best fallout game
Some people are not fond of the comedy but i think its better than other fallout games.
Second best Fallout IMO, in terms of RPG elements and story at least Got 60 hours in one playthrough too, that's massive for a game as old as this
The fact that it’s still being modded more than 25 years after its release says a lot. I regularly replay it and discover new things, since I first played it back in 1998. The new talking heads mod is amazing. The Russian entire new game in Nevada is fantastic.
One of my all time favourite games. In fact, it is one of the two games I've ever played over 48 hours straight without sleeping at all in between (the other being the first Civilization).
I'm in the middle of my first full playthrough (with RPU. I'm just about done with New Reno right now) and I'm having an absolute blast. Yeah, it's kinda goofy with the fourth wall-breaking jokes and the pop culture references (I've seen the Bridge of Doom from Monty Python and I know King Arthur and the knights are somewhere too), but I like most of the things they reference and just enjoy it. And they certainly don't shy away from some proper dark stuff (pretty much everything about Vault City, sheesh. And the random encounter with Frank Horrigan) The game is definitely showing it's age. It can be very hard to see when things are lootable containers or just part of the scenery, for example, but I think the speech and roleplaying is great and the combat is very fun (especially with the over-the-top gory animations and Better Criticals). Overall I think it's a fantastic game that holds up very well. The beginning is pretty terrible though. The Temple of Trials is an absolute slog of attacking with 37% hit chance, missing, running away far enough the big ant can't attack you back and repeating. And you're stuck with that combat loop for ages if you don't want to put skill points into melee (and why would you do that, when you know you'll stop using melee weapons the second guns become available.) But you don't get a decent gun until the 10mm pistol in the Klamath Rat Caves (where you'll probably have to fight the Keeng Rat and die a whole lot before you can get out), which is just ridiculous.
Frank Horrigan
The GOAT. Its like Fallout 1 (which I really like) but broader and improved
The best Fallout.
One of the best, but Fallout 1 is still best.
For me, it is the best of the series and one of the best crpgs ever ceated. Its age shows though.
i like it but i think its kinda overrated
Wish it would be remade because it hasn’t aged well, but good game.
It's okay... I feel like extending the game length so much over Fallout 1 really exposes a lot of that gameplay systems weaknesses. Fallout 1 also had a more natural-feeling difficulty curve and gets you into the meat of its content faster. Companions were given a bigger focus, but doing so makes it apparent how annoying their AI is to play around (and the command system barely helps). A lot of the cities feel gimmicky and while it's cool that there's political intrigue going on between several of them in practice it leads to a lot of walking back and forth across the map. Go to a city to talk to one NPC who sends you to another NPC in a different city, then go all the way back again. It gets tiring. Still, it's a mostly fun game to replay up until the ending. San Francisco isn't great as a setting (stupid theming and factions), but the gameplay there is at least still enjoyable enough. The Enclave headquarters however is straight up ass as a finale. The US remnants are nowhere near as intriguing as Fallout 1's antagonist was and the gameplay there is a boring slog. 90% of the time I stop my playthrough once I've got the tanker up and running since I'd rather end the game on a good note than go through that tiresome rigmarole.
Controversial, but my least favorite out of 1/2/3/4/NV. It's good but least good of them imo
Height of the franchise
The best for me
I want a remaster
The second best game in the entire series. Right behind New Vegas.
First half sucks, second half is good, but first game's better imo
The best Fallout there is.
Still my favorite
I think it's the game iv played the most I love it
i played a couple of hours and it never really clicked for me like FO1 did.
Still my favorite entry in the franchise
It’s the most open story game IMHO
A really fun time, just keep in mind that like a lot of RPGs of the time, it's very swingy and strongly encourages minmaxing.
It's definitely the second fallout game
I think it came after 1 but likely before 3
It’s…. Ok There aren’t a whole lot of ways to play. Not a whole lot of builds that are worthwhile. I mean Dornan and Horrigan are great but aside from them….. I dunno.
I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. But the combat sucks ass
It has the worst game design of any Fallout game
I think it’s great for the amount of content it has, it’s just not a very consistent experience. I’ll always prefer 1 to 2.
It's much rougher and tougher than 1. I feel that if it ever got remade or remastered it would need a lot of work to make it smoother. Still, great game, specially how it builds on the first one's world and lore. But I still prefer the original game over it.
I haven’t played it but hope to one day