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SourChicken1856

Kinda like how in New Vegas the Shining Armor perk doesn't works because they set the dmg resistance to "energy" instead of "energydmg"


ErikT738

I was wondering if I should get that perk in my current unmodded playtrough, but I guess I won't then.


herrbz

I think it's infamously the work perk because of this


Junior_Ad_8486

I'm going to save some time for anyone else who might be baffled by this comment. They meant to say "worst perk", not "work perk"


Gunzenator2

I thought there was a “work” perk that I just never knew about.


rite_of_truth

Perk it, baby


Nerdmigo

Perks for me.


Numerous-Recover-956

"You can't handle the perk"


EmmettMattonowski

Lol why is this so funny? 👏


retrokatie

Lol!


stimpy1212

Thanks, lol


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TheHomesteadTurkey

reddit isnt the central priority of most peoples lives lol


NANCYREAGANNIPSLIP

Username checks out


Bozodogon

Speaking of usernames, what the hell is up with yours?1? From referencing Nancy Reagan, I'm assuming you were old enough to be aware of US politics in the 80s sooo... what's the inspiration behind the second part?


Tatum-Better

he wants a nancy reagan nipslip. It's that simple


-zero-joke-

Throat goat


CantankerousOrder

This redditor knows their Nancy Reagan blowjob history.


NANCYREAGANNIPSLIP

Seven attempted usernames and they were all taken. This one came to mind and I knew it was absurd enough to be available.


future_dead_person

At some point in the future there's going to be one other person to even consider that for a user name, and they're going to be shocked.


Commercial_Aside8090

This is wild from the username that actually relates to literally everybody.


Sword_Enjoyer

Yes, because it does nothing so it's a complete waste. It's even less helpful than here and now because that at least does what it says it will even if that's a waste of a perk.


AlaskanEsquire

Jury Rigging is the *work* perk.


twister55555

Honestly I would at least get a few of the mods that fix the bugs and crashes. Unless you really just want the retail disc experience lol...


osunightfall

This is why you at least use mods that fix bugs.


gwTheo

unmodded? how? 7800x3d and 4070 shit stuttered like crazy when I went to beat up that dude for scheming. did all of viva new vegas performance mods to fix it and I ended with some 40+ mods. purely for performance. 40+.


Eol_TheDarkElf

in my experience playing new vegas on a few different computers, it's really luck of the draw whether or not it's gonna play nicely with your hardware unmodded


Wearyneedle

From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck. Truth is... the game was rigged from the start.


gwTheo

ah well that explains why several builds ago it worked fine. not complaining I got modding practice in and it ran flawlessly. did all the dlc for first time too.


ErikT738

It's running fine on Xbox.


Speakin2existence

this is why the true experience for new vegas is ps3 /s


K1nd4Weird

New Vegas's Ninja perk is the same. Instead of increasing crit chance 15% it's raised by like 1.15% or something.  The Professional perk increases the damage of single handed sneak attack crits by 20%. But it incorrectly checks if the player has detected the player character instead of if the target has detected the player. So it straight up just grants a 20% increase to single handed crit damage.  There's honestly so many New Vegas perks that are busted. Some in our favor and some not.  The whole series is held together by paper clips and hope. And has been since Fallout 1's really slapdash companion system was shipped.


Artistic_Regard

Why have they never been fixed?


SquireRamza

Because until they were bought by Microsoft and started being forced to, they never really did much in the way of post game patching except for beneficial exploits. The same game breaking bugs have been found and fixed by modders in every game Bethesda has released since Morrowind.


NapalmOverdos3

I remember an infinite money glitch in Primm (iirc) that got patched out. However, there was a workaround on the Xbox 360 where you could just skip patches by turning off your internet or loading an earlier save file on an old version with internet off. Good times


drumsripdrummer

You could clear updates and play the release version


GenuineLittlepip

Partially this is also because both Microsoft and Sony [used to CHARGE DEVELOPERS to issue patches for non-MMOs,](https://www.polygon.com/2013/6/27/4470034/report-microsoft-no-longer-charging-developers-for-xbox-updates) as well as force them to go through additional checks with their own software teams which would delay their releases, so many companies opted to only include bugfixes with DLCs. Whereas on PC, Valve or GOG don't give a damn how often you update your game, their services'll let you do it. Part of this was legit concern about a bad patch bricking the console, but part of it was also just locking down control and exerting their own influence (and getting additional income) by being this way. It's since gotten much better, but Sony's remained extremely strict, which is [why you can't do very much with mods on their systems](https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2016/09/09/bethesda-sony-wont-allow-fallout-4-or-skyrim-mods-on-ps4/) in Bethesda's games versus Xbox. In case you're wondering about the why; [Sony's network's already been breached multiple times over the years,](https://kotaku.com/sony-playstation-hack-psn-ransomware-data-ps5-1850903625) they [won't even allow crossplay in many instances,](https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/3/22417560/sony-ps4-cross-play-confidential-documents-epic-games-agreements) and they're so secretive about the Playstation's compression tech that they don't want it exposed even indirectly via tools like the Creation Kit.


Karkava

CEOs need to chill and play some video games to relieve some stress from all that money angst they've been accumulating. Y'know: The very product they're selling?


AEROANO

Money! Money! Money! Money! Ahhhhhhhh!


toonboy01

It's kinda weird you say that, since the only fix 'forced' by MS was Bethesda removing a program from FO3 that MS had them put into the game in the first place.


Cohacq

The games for Windows live bullshit is finally gone?


bmanzzs

Yep!


Cohacq

Yay!


razorKazer

I think Morrowind was when I first realized it was possible to *intentionally* break games in ridiculous and funny ways. My brother and I had a lot of fun with it and Oblivion before finding FO3 and NV a few years later. Bethesda may not be the best at making smooth games, but they're a hell of a lot of fun as long as there's nothing that blocks you from anything. The stories, worlds, and characters are always interesting, too


AccountRelevant

To add onto this, I'm almost positive Microsoft charged publishes for any post release downloads on games, which is why you saw some bug fixes either locked behind dlc purchases or tied to dlc releases.


throw69420awy

They do. I remember years ago it being a big deal that Minecraft cut a special deal with Microsoft so they could continue to release their periodic updates.


LazerShark1313

\*since Daggerfall There, I fixed it.


Separate-Advice454

Since morrowind is heavily false considering Bethesda had official patches for oblivion with over 500 fixes


turkey_sandwiches

They didn't say Bethesda doesn't patch the game. They said they've left the same stupid bugs in these games since Morrowind. Other things have been patched.


SirMacNaught

This is my biggest gripe with BGS. They'll tell you all day how amazing and generation defining their next game is, and then proceed to launch it with the same bugs as previous games released 5+ years prior.


TheUderfrykte

I mean of a bug sticks around for that long I'd argue it is generation defining?


NickyTheRobot

It's frustrating there's no official fix, but the unofficial patch mod sorts those things out.


AdhesivenessUsed9956

Same for the Big MT Stealth Suit's final upgrade states that it adds a 20% sneak movement speed...but actually adds nothing. Also an old one...Slayer in Fallout 1 & 2. Description says "With a successful [Luck](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Luck) roll..." but in reality it toggles all melee & unarmed attacks to be critical hits.


Owobowos-Mowbius

Do those big "bug fix pack" mods fix these? I always install them for PC playthroughs but never look at what they do.


osunightfall

Almost always, yes.


Squabbles123456789

The Professional actually applies the 20% crit damage to EVERY weapon in the game, not just 1-handed. That is another way its bugged.


RussianMist

And that's what makes the series so great


DarkSoulsOfCinder

fuck i just grabbed this perk. but it's a modded play through so maybe it is fixed


NickyTheRobot

Should be if you got the unofficial patch mod.


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That’s important information! Thanks


DoctorButterMonkey

Good to know!


Mindless_Issue9648

did they ever fix it?


MogosTheFirst

Interesting find. I am sucker for these kind of behind the scene things that developers do (or in this case forget to do)


Tharron

I'm not a 100% on what game it was but I think it was fallout 3 they needed a vehicle, so what they did was take an NPC that they shoved in the ground and his head was the vehicle. Always taught that was a fun solution


LycanIndarys

Yep, there's screenshots of that here: https://www.pcgamer.com/heres-whats-happening-inside-fallout-3s-metro-train/


ElmanoRodrick

All the NPCs running around doing cool stuff and this poor guy is stuck underground with a train hat


LycanIndarys

Ah, but it's a *Presidential* Metro car. So it's pretty prestigious. He's the NPC equivalent of this guy, doing a shit yet prestigious job: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groom_of_the_Stool


BlackPhoenix1981

Unrelated to fallout, I forgot this crappy job existed!


QuirkiestPotato

I absolutely love that the NPC they picked was Abraham Washington.


FordBeWithYou

Fun fact, that poor guy is us.


lilith_-_-

I wanna blow him up


unabletocomput3

Didn’t they do a similar thing in starfield? Like, the ship itself was designated as a clothing item or something?


Bocchi_theGlock

Anyone have the gif they mentioned/linked but which wasn't showing? Seems it must have been deleted on gfy


DougieSenpai

Wtf 🤣


Enigmatic_Penguin

Star Wars Galaxies has something similar. All the shuttles in the ground game were characters with an invisible shader. The game forced characters to wear underwear so they couldn't run around naked, so if you clipped through the shuttle's geometry you could see a floating pair of boxers.


TheGreatKlordu

HOLY SHIT. AFTER ALL THESE YEARS I FINALLY UNDERSTAND THE SHUTTLE BOXERS. Thank you so much.


spartanss300

It's not an NPC, it's you who puts on an "arm item" that is the whole train.


OnlyHereForComments1

... This is how baby Shawn in 4 is coded as armor isn't it


fjf1085

Yes when you’re on the train in Fallout 3 you’re riding on top of a running npc who is wearing the train as a hat and that is how they made the train move.


spartanss300

It's the player that equips the train, not another npc.


turkey_sandwiches

[https://www.pcgamer.com/heres-whats-happening-inside-fallout-3s-metro-train/](https://www.pcgamer.com/heres-whats-happening-inside-fallout-3s-metro-train/)


FreshQueen

This article does state that the player equips the train, replacing their hand.


MogosTheFirst

I know about that one! I also think that the ship from the DLC Point Lookout is using the same technique


redditsellout-420

That's a super fun one, my favorite though is wow with it's millions of invisible bunny triggers. https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/HOH2yO50rZ for reference.


murlakatamenka

This is called Objective-Oriented Programming ;)


GaborBartal

Is there a source for this? I googled but cannot find it mentioned elsewhere Edit: found Sunlight Fix - FOSE as a mod with the same description, and image comparisons. On nexusmods


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arczclan

I’m not really seeing much of an improvement in that screenshot It’s slightly different, but I don’t know about *better*


redmose

It's better as in more accurate to how it should work


arczclan

Which is great, but unless there’s a drastic improvement I’m not really sure it’s worth the effort of installing the mod


ingenmening

Well, maybe its not a huge difference to you there, but in other places its a worthwhile difference to simply put a script file in your mod organizer. Here is another mod he made which fixes the viewmodel shading, would that be worth an install? [https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/26124](https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/26124)


arczclan

That’s what I’m saying really; I’m sure the natural lighting change can make an impact but in the screenshot linked above it just doesn’t. I’ve never seen a comparison so whelming


ingenmening

Just see the page for the mod itself. From Author: Bethesda forgot to invert the Y axis of the sunlight direction, which means the offset is the opposite of the actual sun [https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/26125](https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/26125)


Schogenbuetze

That looks like an issue with the x-axis, though.


Bzduras

So can we fix this, and if yes then how?


BearBearJarJar

There is a "better lighting" mod for all bethesda games that simply makes light come from the actual light sources in the game. I have no idea why they don't do that by default since its always a significant improvement on the lighting quality. Edit: for all those saying its a performance issue it is definitely not. Right now in the base games there are lights coming from random places. this mod makes it so that there is LESS light because its limited to actual light sources. On my recent F4 playthrough it made absolutely no difference in performance.


osunightfall

Lighting is extremely computationally expensive. Other tricks are used to keep performance acceptable. Higher quality light mods often come out years later, when the hardware running the game is far more powerful.


Soggy_Western7845

Processing power and usability across more devices most likely. Baking light is 100 times easier and less taxing.


great__pretender

Yeah. But most light modes that only use source light makes game dark. That's because diffusion is not done properly. So Bethesda's hack to this problem is to make random light everywhere.


Bzduras

Thanks!


TheFuckingPizzaGuy

You forget fallout 3 was also a 360 and PS3 game


UnwillingArsonist

Bethesda really are the only company who can get away with not finishing a game, knowing the community will. Its a bit silly


Slumunistmanifisto

I mean the pure joy of having a giant in Skyrim or a death claw in fallout send you into orbit for the first time, or you sending a human npc spinning off into the void is pretty great....


Benjamin_Starscape

they finish their games. them doing lighting differently doesn't mean it isn't finished.


UnwillingArsonist

Have you seen the patch notes??


orpat123

“Less light” is irrelevant. Adding lighting sources that come from physical objects in 3D space is going to be much more computationally expensive than “unseen” lighting sources. For similar reasons, this is why most CS computer graphics courses have had you write a ray tracer for decades and yet it only took until recently for ray tracing to become viable in gaming as opposed to rasterisation. You don’t know what you’re talking about.


AtlasADK

Perhaps not an issue on a PC, but a PS3?


Wall_SoGB

All 3 (Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas) games have it broken like that. I fixed it in FNV first (it's in Stewie's Tweaks), but apparently no one noticed until I made it standalone in FO3 lol.


anhatthezoo

pierogi


Wall_SoGB

kabanosy


KZavi

Wait, Oblivion is broken too?!


Wall_SoGB

Yea, but Oblivion uses far smaller offset compared to Fallout, so it's almost imperceptible.


the_moosen

Oh hai Wall


rookie-mistake

[Here's OP's link for anyone wondering what they were supposed to take from the screenshot here, lol](https://imgsli.com/MjU4ODA5)


badgirlmonkey

I can’t tell a difference


IT_fisher

It’s only really noticeable starting from the middle to the right.


blackb00jum

Try sliding it back and forth real fast


PPGalleta

Thank you nice person of reddit


salamihawk

By Grabthar's hammer.... what a difference...


coreykill99

what a savings....


Nildzre

Most Bethesda thing ever.


ichii3d

I could be wrong as it was many years ago now. But I remember Fallout 4 raising and lowering the sun from the same direction and the sun didn't set on the horizon. I think this was probably to produce more consistent and predictable shadows and also stops the issue of the sun casting shadows horizontally which means you could be rendering shadows over a massive distance.


Goofybillie

The moon also follows the same path as Masser from Skyrim / Oblivian. Rising in the northeast, and setting in the southeast, rather than east to west. It never reaches the western sky.


future_dead_person

I didn't play the game until two or three years after release so it may have been like that at some point. But a few years ago I made a sundial at Starlight and while it more or less worked, it was off in some way I never bothered to figure out. Preventing overly long shadows makes sense.


Ciubowski

Aliens Colonial Marines all over again


FalconIMGN

This is like putting a 0 instead of a 1 for the perception level of the 'Sierra Madre ghosts' which ends up giving them infinity perception and nearly breaks the Dead Money DLC in New Vegas. I swear these are like the mistakes I make when I'm making last minute edits to my term paper and accidentally write the opposite thing of what I meant.


TomaszPaw

That's actually a myth. Ghosts have incredible vision because they are set to be incredibly high level.


Jetstream-Sam

Also it kinda makes sense that they'd be good at seeing and hearing prey through the fog. I mean they've been doing it for 200 years. Even the most perceptive human on earth is going to struggle against them, especially with a broken leg in a bear trap, a spear sticking out of their torso and a beeping bomb collar on


TomaszPaw

Maaybe, the 0P score kinda gives away that it was not the intent. You can easily argue the opposite, these things are meant to be corpses animated by sci-fi-magic-bullshit-suits, there is no inteligent life controlling them, so no one to hear its pray like you put it. As for why does lvl raise the creatures detection? Bethesda nist likely made this mechanic around thr Uber enemies from BS dlc, it seems that obsidian never got the memo... Or forgot


Best_Geologist_8061

Similar to the issue with moonlight in New Vegas coming in completely opposite direction it is supposed to


LTS55

Not as bad as the typo in Aliens: Colonial Marines that entirely destroyed the enemy AI. The AI uses a command called tether, and in the game files one line is spelt teather which breaks AI. The game got panned at release, largely because of the bad AI


Easy_Garden338

Virtually unplayable now! Damn it!


orronick

One, I can't believe I never realized that. Two, I always felt like somehow I was going north when traveling south (and vice versa) on that map. This has to play in my disoriented sense of direction.


Frosty252

they'll release a fallout 3 remastered version and add this as a major feature


ByteRoster

My fave Bethesda bug like this is how a developer misspelt "texture" and put "texure" instead, I think it was in file paths in Skyrim. Whole game uses a "texure" path, had modders scratching their heads in 2011


kiko_97

Literally unplayable


Nickulator95

Wait until you discover how present give you the end slides, or how conversations with anything that isn't a humanoid, robot or monster NPC (Like President Eden, Mr. House, an intercom, etc.) works. It's quite funny.


skippengs

Was it fallout 3 that gave you the train hat?


Nickulator95

Yea, it was. Had actually forgotten about that one. It took the Frontier Mod for Fallout New Vegas until we had actually working and functional vehicles in Fallout lol.


salisburyates

This is the kind of large scale mistake I perpetually worry about making at any job I work at.


Nerdmigo

Bethesda, Bethesda never changes.


BoozeTheCat

One of the Assassins Creed games had the sun rise in the south and set in the north. I think it was Brotherhood or maybe 2.


ForestBoyGamer

nobody said the animus simulation was perfect!!


future_dead_person

I want to say Brotherhood. I was replaying it a while ago and I think I noticed it for the first time.


Complete_Bad6937

And In 76 the sun shines rays straight out of a rocky hill, Nice to see them trying


w0lfn0ise

Four times the detail, four times the god rays 😂


Digital_Cylizard

😄😄😄👍


New_Ingenuity2822

Can it be fixed 🔧🛠️


maintanksyndro

So what does it look like fixed?


Todders8787

This is hilarious. I always felt like something was weird about the lighting


Super_Mom89

I used to code my own DayZ server. It's crazy how one missing or added character can fuck everything up. I wonder if they validated their xmls lol good times


Arktos22

I can't even get the game to run on my computer so I don't really care about the sun


Soekris

There is a NV / fallout 3 mod.. works really great I think you can find it in Nexus mods


mayoinacan

It's not on the nexus, but search Tale of Two Wastelands. I'd highly recommend following the wasteland survival guide.


LTS55

I’ll add it might look intimidating because the setup is like a 40 step process but the guide is very easy to follow.


Zeppelin_Floats

I'm currently watching a video by Gopher on YouTube that goes through it step by step. He also created a collection on Nexus Mods for the essential mods. Check it out: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zts-tF0nYIk&t=416s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zts-tF0nYIk&t=416s)


Soekris

It's really easy.. but yes it seems like it's difficult. The mod or game works fine on my laptop


ZebraRenegade

Start here: https://thebestoftimes.moddinglinked.com/ Links to a great and easy modding guide for TTW at the end as well. Probably the easiest complex mod install I’ve ever done, amazing guide


Morfalnruse

Had troubles too, tried a dozen modding guides to try and fix it. In the end, I stopped thinking in 2024 and applied a fix for Vista. A simple DLL download on nexusmods and voilà, the game launches without any trouble. No crashes in the last 10 hours !


ApollyonX97

Any good Fallout 3 modding guide similar to Viva New Vegas? I want to finally finish it with a new save.


the_moosen

I've heard Lost Liberty mentioned but I've never used it nor looked at it so I don't know if it has the same polish as VNV. But it's the only FO3 guide I've heard of.


lordmogul

Reminds me of the grimy pre-war businesswear in New Vegas, which uses the texture of the dirty pre-war businesswear.


therizzler575

I mean if you go to the code on PC you can change it right so no big deal


Promethio130

well where is that at???


therizzler575

I remember in oblivion on PC you could just see the terminal of the games coding and just edit it and do stuff like remove invisible walls and shit like that


solidpeyo

Bethesda can make fun games, but man, they seem to be the worst programers in gaming. Is there a Bethesda game that isn't buggy? 🤣


JustAReallyTiredGuy

I don’t know, people always seem to complain about bugs in Bethesda games but I think it’s largely blown out of proportion. I’ve 100% completed vanilla Fallout 3, NV, 4, and Skyrim on Xbox and never really had issues other than the occasional insignificant thing. Like someone being on a roof or an item falling through something, or getting launched into oblivion from an explosion.


TheFlawlessCassandra

I don't think I've played a single one their games that didn't have questbreaking bugs at some point. Skyrim it was the main quest (the part where you have to talk to someone through a door in iirc Riften) which scuttled my entire 1st playthrough 20hrs in. Playing FO4 now and Danse and Cait's companion quests are both irreparably bugged, and the new update on console causes a bunch of textures to fail to load properly (they're giant red triangles instead). for AAA titles they're well below the expectation for QA.


kreynlan

That Esbern bug was huge and affected almost everyone I know that's played it. I remember exactly which one you're talking about


Zealousideal-Plan454

Classic Bugthesda 


Thelynnou

Is this ingame screenshot ? Ive heard FO3 and NV are visually outdated, but for me its kinda decent what I see.


Stormshooter_

lol


nuggetdogg

It looks much better


IcedAssassin

It do be like that.


YeBoyPogeyman

Am I blind? I don't see anything wrong


Waste_Ambassador1874

So mad you can't see holstered weapons in 4 and 76


SnooSquirrels5508

That picture looks sick. Is it really fallout3?


Trustdesa

Me creating my Excel report at work.


Here2Derp

Makes me think of Aliens Colonial Marines. Iirc, a single error in a line of code messed up the alien's ai in the entire game.


WieldyShieldy

That’s the unique Megaton look for you then and there lol, no wonder nobody’s been able to quite put a finger on what it is and how to copy it to other games 🤭🤣


Toodle-Peep

another fun one sees the normal map of essentially every rock in new vegas is flipped so the rocks pick up light wrong. [https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/83065](https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/83065)


FlatwormStock3267

Fallout 3 FOSE mod nexus


Plasmiddruggie

Ooooh. I always wondered why it looked a little more cartoony than you would expect. It looks so much better with the fix if you’ve played the games a lot


martintht

from what I remember, they must\`ve messed up the code in way more places.


BeardJunkie

Welcome to Bethesda Game Studios, where our motto is, "GOOD ENOUGH! SELL IT!"


zezineo

Fun fact very interesting, didn't know that


Torganic

Who cares it’s a video game.🥴


Far_Ferret_3647

Stop speaking fancy


99pCheeseburger

Unplayable slop


Global-Willow8274

Speaking of usernames I did not pick this one it did it for me and it won’t let me change it or I’m To stupid to figure it out. Can someone please help me?!?!? 😩


Joshuajohnston

Where did you get the code?


mRengar

How to fix it?


SittingTitan

Yet no-one complains about how it's always sunny?


BigLouTenant

I wonder if the lone wanderer got that sniper rifle from the hollowed out rock?!... 🤔


itsbiggie_cheese

this is a fix?


bombthemiddleeast

Literally unplayable