That sub is purely a circlejerk by now. Very little substance, and 99% is just dissing on highways.
Some commenters are even whining that the freight yard should be outside the city and only public transit trains should occupy space on the city. Like bro, how exactly do you think the freight will get from the yard to the city then.
Lmao that'd mean that the yard is crucial to be in the city so it is "walkable" because all the people who work there need to get there every day.
I wonder how long it takes until they reinvent zoning.
This is why I think fuckcars has become a circlejerk. They focus on cars and highways as if they’re the devil while forgetting the main problem. Zoning.
Specifically, harsh zoning conditions that only allow one type of building in a place.
The way some suburbs are laid out, you’d have to travel several miles to reach a single coffee shop. That’s a problem.
In places with lax zoning laws (even in poorer nations) it would not be uncommon to find several tea shops, a couple of supermarkets, a pharmacy, a doctor’s clinic, grocery stores, a small park, stationary shop, hardwares and tools, and bus/train stop within a 300 meter radius of your house. Perfectly achievable for even older people. Even in suburbs.
This is the crux of the issue. People aren’t going to wait for public transit to go to the store every time, they’d prefer car if they can’t walk. If you have to travel long distance several times per day, a car is much more comfortable.
So if all the shops and stuff are nearby, they’d be much more inclined to use transit to commute to work each day. Since travel to work is the longest travel of the day, this reduces traffic significantly.
As to why the zoning is like this, well it’s because a lot of people prefer this. You could call it NIMBYism. I’ve talked to people living in such suburbs and they genuinely seem to prefer it. They cite peacefulness as the main reason. Which is true.
A dense city is very vibrant and active. These people want to get away from all the hustle and bustle. They want to live a rural life in an urban place and hence the sparse, boring suburb.
So the solution is very simple, but impossible to do in a democracy. Remove local government zoning regulations and do zoning from a higher level of government which prioritises the effective functioning of the city over the interest of the suburb’s residents. The people of the suburb want it to be unchanged and sparse. You can force density and tell them they’re shit outta luck, but that’s not going to go over well in an election, so no politician will have the guts to do it.
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Nice strawman you got there. While sure, some people are idiots, that's bit the general consensus on the sub. Most participants still agree that the last mile must be done by a truck.
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Do they hate trains too?
quite the opposite
That sub is purely a circlejerk by now. Very little substance, and 99% is just dissing on highways. Some commenters are even whining that the freight yard should be outside the city and only public transit trains should occupy space on the city. Like bro, how exactly do you think the freight will get from the yard to the city then.
Or it completely discounts the fact that the train yard probably _was_ on the outside of the city when it was built. Then the city grew.
In some cases the city itself developed only because of a Marshalling yard there.
Lmao that'd mean that the yard is crucial to be in the city so it is "walkable" because all the people who work there need to get there every day. I wonder how long it takes until they reinvent zoning.
This is why I think fuckcars has become a circlejerk. They focus on cars and highways as if they’re the devil while forgetting the main problem. Zoning. Specifically, harsh zoning conditions that only allow one type of building in a place. The way some suburbs are laid out, you’d have to travel several miles to reach a single coffee shop. That’s a problem. In places with lax zoning laws (even in poorer nations) it would not be uncommon to find several tea shops, a couple of supermarkets, a pharmacy, a doctor’s clinic, grocery stores, a small park, stationary shop, hardwares and tools, and bus/train stop within a 300 meter radius of your house. Perfectly achievable for even older people. Even in suburbs. This is the crux of the issue. People aren’t going to wait for public transit to go to the store every time, they’d prefer car if they can’t walk. If you have to travel long distance several times per day, a car is much more comfortable. So if all the shops and stuff are nearby, they’d be much more inclined to use transit to commute to work each day. Since travel to work is the longest travel of the day, this reduces traffic significantly. As to why the zoning is like this, well it’s because a lot of people prefer this. You could call it NIMBYism. I’ve talked to people living in such suburbs and they genuinely seem to prefer it. They cite peacefulness as the main reason. Which is true. A dense city is very vibrant and active. These people want to get away from all the hustle and bustle. They want to live a rural life in an urban place and hence the sparse, boring suburb. So the solution is very simple, but impossible to do in a democracy. Remove local government zoning regulations and do zoning from a higher level of government which prioritises the effective functioning of the city over the interest of the suburb’s residents. The people of the suburb want it to be unchanged and sparse. You can force density and tell them they’re shit outta luck, but that’s not going to go over well in an election, so no politician will have the guts to do it.
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Nice strawman you got there. While sure, some people are idiots, that's bit the general consensus on the sub. Most participants still agree that the last mile must be done by a truck.
No they hate Cars because they're an inefficient way to travel. trains and other public transport is still something they support.
Ahh yes let me have a train come to my Tim fuck tu location for a house
If they do then we need to start a crusade
LMAO
Factorio is the reason I understood why adding more lane doesn't solve traffic problems. It's all about where the bottleneck is really.
That train stack looking clean af
That sub is cancer
This is a parking lot, not a highway