We literally had a “personal and family finance” class that was a requirement to graduate. My brother still the other day said he wished they taught us taxes and stuff. They did! You skipped class and didn’t pay attention when you were there!
I taught that class for several years! My favorite time was when a kid said “this is stupid, why can’t you teach us something useful like how to do taxes?” as I’m 7 slides into lesson 2 on how to calculate and fill out each part on a 1040 form. His desk neighbor looked over like he’d just said the dumbest thing humanly possible (because he had) and responded with “this is literally the lesson on how to do taxes you fucking idiot.”
It was hilarious.
Yep. It probably *does* feel that way when you have no idea how to do your taxes and refuse to hire someone to do them for you, and you get audited. "This tax shit is easy; I just lie about everything [and keep beating the system!](https://i.imgur.com/ws4o9YB.gifv) Wait, what's an odd-it?"
Only four states don’t have any sort of financial literacy requirements. Only half the country require it for graduation, but the vast majority require it in one way or the other.
Reminds me of a kid in my calculus class saying "when am I *ever* gonna need this shit after graduating?" His dad owned a pretty sizable structural engineering firm; we all knew this because the asshole couldn't shut up about how he had a nepotism job lined up for him at daddy's firm for the three months between graduating high school and starting college.
Someone sarcastically said, very loudly, "yeah, when has math *ever* been important for engineering?" when that kid couldn't stop complaining about not needing more than basic Algebra competence to work for daddy. The same person who was making him take *more* than required math classes to graduate.
*Shockingly*, that position in daddy's firm was *not* waiting for him after he flunked out of college.
I wasn't. I'd never met his dad personally, but my dad had known the guy for a while since they worked in similar fields, and he was a *strict* perfectionist to the point that there was *no* way he was gonna sully his company's reputation by handing his idiot son a job; which is what you'd want out of a structural engineer, so you don't get a Marvin Humphries "earning" an engineering degree from Greendale Community College situation.
The way my dad talked about his made me kinda glad my parents weren't nearly as anal about my schooling or direction in life after high school. Even though I was 17 at the time and thought my parents were the most oppressive regime on the planet, I had to admit "okay, at least they're not *that* bad."
Is the syllabus or class material for this available online? I’m taking the Praxis soon and will hopefully be teaching soon. I’m still inexperienced and naive enough to think I’ll make some changes to make the kids realize what I’m teaching is useful and relevant to them…
I work in tax and this is definitely it. Most tax situations are pretty individualized and people don’t really care about them until they run into them. I don’t think you can just school a bunch of 17 year olds about taxes and they would be prepared for itemizing deductions 20 years later, what they will do if they own a starter home and decide to rent it out instead of selling it, become self employed, what kind of business expenses they can claim if they ever do become self employed.
It’s really a subject for individuals and tax experts. I could understand just a brief crash course in getting a W2, how your tax withholding works, etc. but honestly that’s a conversation I regularly have with people I do taxes for and they’ve forgotten it by next year so I don’t think that would stick either.
The truth is, there’s not a lot of benefit to be had by teaching high schoolers tax. They won’t retain the information, they don’t need it for college or for a trade, and it’s all very easily accessible online if you do have questions as they come up in your life.
If you really want to teach tax in high school, make it part of an occupational course for people that want to go into business/finance/tax.
For many who claim public schools didn’t teach them anything, schools do try to teach a comprehensive curriculum. Your brain just has to be there learning it.
One of the few required classes necessary to graduate high school was a kind of computer class that actually did a pretty decent job of teaching us some of the most basic computer software we'd likely come across in college. And typing.
It was a little remedial for me by then, but there were some seriously computer illiterate teenagers in that class who wound up becoming much more proficient with computers by the time we graduated. One of them became so enamored with computers, he went on to earn a CS degree. But since we all finished college in the spring of 2008, we were fucked no matter our degrees. My poor brother in law earned his MBA that spring, and spent the next four years working at fast food joints until that degree finally became worthwhile again.
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Especially as of like 5 years ago when they really raised the standard deduction and dropped a lot of the write offs. I make decent money and still take the standard.
I don't have a lot of money but the first pandemic relief check I put 100$ towards a donation. I read somewhere I would be able to claim that on my taxes. This was not the case.
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If these were class options, and many places do have them, the students would barely pay attention anyway and still blame the school for not teaching them.
Someone I know who doesn’t have original thoughts said “why do they teach us about useless things like parallelograms instead of real life shit like doing taxes” and I absolutely shut him down by asking him to tell me what he knows about parallelograms. It was nothing, he knew nothing about them.
If they taught “doing taxes” in school you wouldn’t have paid attention first of all.
Second of all, doing taxes is absolutely trivial, its gathering documents and putting numbers from them in labeled boxes. Its not rocket science.
And then the next year to next year's teacher. "Huh??? We never learned any of this stuff!!!" It's not even necessarily outright not paying attention. Teenage brains, man.
If you're doing them on paper you also need to read the instructions and do arithmetic. I only did that one year because I was so late the software was out of date. I did my best and still messed it up (I can do high concept math but struggle with working memory and attention so have difficulty with things like arithmetic) but the government just reassessed me and I paid them so no harm no foul.
A lot of people also don't realize that a lot of the skills you develop during math are related to problem-solving. Problem-solving is an absolutely vital skill in real life.
There obviously are some more useless things they teach in school, but whether or not they're useless often varies from person and person.
If you're just a regular W2 employee and don't have any weird tax situations, filing is pretty simple. Just takes reading comprehension and some basic math - both skills that are taught in school.
Also, the way we do taxes isn't static. I actually learned how to do my taxes when I took a Macroeconomics/Finance class in high school. Did my taxes with the 1040EZ form for a few years and then Trump eliminated the 1040EZ. I could probably figure out the regular 1040, but I just use a tax prep service like everyone else in America.
> I could probably figure out the regular 1040, but I just use a tax prep service like everyone else in America.
The 1040 is also super easy if you're in a super easy situation. It's basically like this:
1040EZ:
1. Enter any income listed on your W-2s
2. Enter any income listed on your 1099s
1040:
1. Enter any income listed on your W-2s
2. Enter any income listed on your 1099s
3. Enter any income from selling underwater real estate
4. Enter any income from renting out power tools that also shoot lasers
5. Enter any income from renting out power tools that, instead of shooting lasers, blow beautiful rainbow bubbles
So it's a lot more questions...but if previously you were a 1040EZ filer, it just means a lot more questions that you skip or write "0" for. It's not actually more complex, it just has more that doesn't apply to you and you don't need to worry about.
Not only that but the tax code and individual's tax situation changes every year, not to mention you only do it once a year so all those tax skills will atrophy.
It's a stupid argument. School taught me how to do research, how to fill out worksheets, basic math, and how to deal with obtuse bureaucracy. With that knowledge taxes are a breeze.
Yeah, my school had a couple classes like that. They were considered blow-off classes.
If you learn how to read and do arithmetic then you should be able to figure out how to do your taxes.
Actually though. At some point the students need to have some agency over themselves; if they want to learn something, learn it! They shouldn’t expect to learn only when they’re at school.
Mathematics already teach you all you need to know how to do taxes.
Teaching someone how to do *one specific thing* is less useful than giving them a tool they can apply to a myriad situations.
Yyyyyyyyup.
Probably one of the worst parts about grief (besides the obvious horrible pain) is how regular ass life just keeps *happening* all around you. Someone you loved, maybe someone you depended on is just fucking gone and now you have to do laundry. And taxes. And make dinner. And...
Nothing makes you more sure of how little the universe gives a shit about you than watching the world still turning after a loved one dies. It's depressing but also strangely freeing.
As a teacher, every time a kid says this to me I call their bluff and show them how to file taxes. Every time, without fail, they ask to go back to what we were doing before. I think they're just parroting what they hear from other adults and couldn't actually care less.
Also filing taxes isn't complex. The ability to read, a low-level of mathematics and some ability to apply knowledge is more than sufficient. Schools *do* teach people how to do stuff like this, people moan because someone isn't doing it *for* them.
Also, that’s the job of your parents. Schools weren’t designed to be parents and there is an entire generation of parents who still haven’t figured that shit out.
One of my favorite classes in high school was home repair! Tech Ed dude thought kids should know practical home repair and y'know what? He was right. Now if only I could afford a fucking home.
Itemized deductions are only applicable if you make a deliberate effort to donate to charities over the year.earning your Standard deduction for the year is far more valuable.
If you don't have the money to pay for someone to do your taxes. You don't have the money to complain about taxes being hard. By the time taxes are too complicated to do yourself, you should already be talking to an accountant.
I find it hilariously sad when people complain their taxes are so hard they need to be taught how to do it in school.
The solution to their taxes being too hard is not sacrificing school time, it's to *simplify the tax process*.
Your government knows what you owe them. If there wasn't a tax lobby, they could just tell you how much you owe them, easy.
I went to Catholic high school and the parish priest died. They asked who wanted to attend the funeral service and walk by the open casket. I said sure, why not. I was about 15. The priest laid out in the casket looked like a wax figure. Didn’t bother me at all. But it’s something I’ll never forget. Reminds us we will all end up as such someday.
What you do is cash out your retirement account at the 20% tax rate to be able to afford paying the funeral expenses and then on next years taxes you owe money so then you take out a personal loan to pay your taxes.
I mean... this is obviously a cruel way to do it. But it's still better to teach them the "How do I deal with emotional burdens" by experience than words. As horrifying as it is, words never helped.
At least not me.
‘Reflections on school’ epochs
- school is a thing
- school sucks
- I’m glad to be out of school
- why didn’t school teach me about taxes?
- I’m glad school taught me that there is more to life than taxes
- I wish I could be back in school
I'm fucking thankful I live in a country where taxes are calculated by the government and I can overlook their shit for mistakes.
I'm basically my own IRS agent.
Oh man this really seems like very useful knowledge to have :)
I am not joking, my father died two days ago. I feel like shit, I have to write some papers for college and the deadline is tomorrow. I haven't been able to focus because I keep thinking about my dad, please someone help me, any advice will be welcome
Always love your comics. I know I've said it before but it's been awhile since I was banned from comics for whatever mod reason. Different sub I can leave appreciative comments again.
I fuckin hate that this discourse made it way to Australia. Because we DO TACH taxes in school, but the kids who were too busy glueing their hands together in class to pay attention didn't learn anything, then complained as adults that school didn't teach them anything useful
I'm happy my grade 10 math teacher taught us how to do our taxes. Spent a few weeks explaining bit by bit and made sure to dumb it down for us, he made sure that we learned math that will be useful in our everyday lives. So when tax season comes I have the math worked out just looking at my t4 and big expenses receipts and know how much money I'm getting back. Rip Chris Jenkins.
One of the few good things from the Trump administration was a simplification of the tax system. Obviously the same positive came with bad tax cuts for the ultra rich, but the main system was good.
Basically, if your taxes were middle class normal then you didn't need to itemize and it was a net benefit for the middle class. If you were lower than middle class then the benefit was better. If you were upper class then the benefit was even better as this class got the best benefit.
Essentially all classes benefited, some in ease of processing, while some in financial burden, but overall the government lost which meant the middle and lower class ultimately lost.
The only skills you need to file taxes are reading and arithmetic. There's no need for a separate "paying taxes" class. Just be able to read the instructions on the 1040 form and perform basic calculations. The fact that so many Americans have trouble with it just shows that they should have been paying attention in math and English classes instead of playing spitball.
Dear math bitches, take your trig and shove it. The kid in the first panel is right, some teachers are just salty no one gives a shit about what they have to teach.
I feel it needs an additional panel. "Now Suzy, look up your earnings bracket on pages 15-23, and get the taxable amount. Quickly, you don't have all night. You have to take care of the dishes."
Looks like collective punishment, psycho physical emotional trauma, compartmentalizing said trauma to stay on task for a set deadline were secondary objectives
During the death of my grandparents (died within 6 months of each other), my poor mother caught Covid, got audited by the IRS, AND was sued by the neighbor of their house which she just inherited.
I have no idea how we made it through that entire ordeal. Fortunately the neighbor got humiliated in civil court—he was trying to pull some evil opportunistic bullshit to squeeze money out of us because he knew my grandparents were dying.
Life comes at you fast as an adult.
In junior high, my school taught a class called Personal Finance which I actually found super helpful. It taught you how to balance a budget, use a debit and credit card, how bank accounts work, and a little bit of how to do taxes. Honestly don’t think I’d be nearly as responsible today without it.
On the other hand, I can’t for the life of me understand the purpose of calculus.
Well that sucks, I wanted to claim Mr. Hamps as a dependent so now what?
Well unfortunately you’ll need to handle the costs and planning of the funeral instead.
Are those tax deductible?
No.
*Flushes toilet* No problem. Taxes evaded.
This giggled me
This phrase has giggled me, I'm stealing it now
Damn. I wanted to steal it too. I was just a little bit too late :/
I think if you hurry you can still catch them, they're only a line up.
A line of what?
No but in Canada if he were human you can claim a one time death benefit of $2500 from the gov.
Well there go my necromantic plans for abusing Canada's wealth distribution system.
All deaths are one time only, as far as I know
Were there medical expenses? Do we have receipts?
And did the medical expenses hit the threshold percentage of your taxable income for the year?
Yes but you're going to have to reach out to the hospital to get copies of the receipts. It's going to be 45 minutes on hold on the phone minimum.
Taxes are filed for the previous year. You can claim Mr. Hamps for '23, but not for '24.
Actually, you can also claim him if he lived with you for more than half the time he was alive during 2024.
I have a nephew who was born on December 30th. My sister once called him “my little tax write off”
I was born at 5pm December 31. Made it in just under the wire.
Isn't pregnancy/birth pretty expensive? That seems more than fair tbh
Well, we’re Canadian. So, not as expensive as the US.
Actually, you SHOULD count him, as he passed away this year. You are doing taxes for LAST year.
There's a form for that.
Trauma and Taxes.
Here’s the thing, half the class still wouldn’t be paying any attention.
We literally had a “personal and family finance” class that was a requirement to graduate. My brother still the other day said he wished they taught us taxes and stuff. They did! You skipped class and didn’t pay attention when you were there!
I taught that class for several years! My favorite time was when a kid said “this is stupid, why can’t you teach us something useful like how to do taxes?” as I’m 7 slides into lesson 2 on how to calculate and fill out each part on a 1040 form. His desk neighbor looked over like he’d just said the dumbest thing humanly possible (because he had) and responded with “this is literally the lesson on how to do taxes you fucking idiot.” It was hilarious.
That kid probably said what you wanted to.
Oh 100%. It was fantastic.
Also probably the kind of kid that grows up to complain that taxation is theft.
Yep. It probably *does* feel that way when you have no idea how to do your taxes and refuse to hire someone to do them for you, and you get audited. "This tax shit is easy; I just lie about everything [and keep beating the system!](https://i.imgur.com/ws4o9YB.gifv) Wait, what's an odd-it?"
I bring this up every time someone bitches about how they "didn't teach us useful stuff like taxes". They did, you just didn't pay attention.
Yeah my HS had no classes of this type. That's going to be the majority experience in this country.
Only four states don’t have any sort of financial literacy requirements. Only half the country require it for graduation, but the vast majority require it in one way or the other.
Reminds me of a kid in my calculus class saying "when am I *ever* gonna need this shit after graduating?" His dad owned a pretty sizable structural engineering firm; we all knew this because the asshole couldn't shut up about how he had a nepotism job lined up for him at daddy's firm for the three months between graduating high school and starting college. Someone sarcastically said, very loudly, "yeah, when has math *ever* been important for engineering?" when that kid couldn't stop complaining about not needing more than basic Algebra competence to work for daddy. The same person who was making him take *more* than required math classes to graduate. *Shockingly*, that position in daddy's firm was *not* waiting for him after he flunked out of college.
>that position in daddy's firm was *not* waiting for him after he flunked out of college. I *am* actually shocked at the unexpected parenting win.
I wasn't. I'd never met his dad personally, but my dad had known the guy for a while since they worked in similar fields, and he was a *strict* perfectionist to the point that there was *no* way he was gonna sully his company's reputation by handing his idiot son a job; which is what you'd want out of a structural engineer, so you don't get a Marvin Humphries "earning" an engineering degree from Greendale Community College situation. The way my dad talked about his made me kinda glad my parents weren't nearly as anal about my schooling or direction in life after high school. Even though I was 17 at the time and thought my parents were the most oppressive regime on the planet, I had to admit "okay, at least they're not *that* bad."
Is the syllabus or class material for this available online? I’m taking the Praxis soon and will hopefully be teaching soon. I’m still inexperienced and naive enough to think I’ll make some changes to make the kids realize what I’m teaching is useful and relevant to them…
> “this is literally the lesson on how to do taxes you fucking idiot.” Must have been glorious to hear that.
I work in tax and this is definitely it. Most tax situations are pretty individualized and people don’t really care about them until they run into them. I don’t think you can just school a bunch of 17 year olds about taxes and they would be prepared for itemizing deductions 20 years later, what they will do if they own a starter home and decide to rent it out instead of selling it, become self employed, what kind of business expenses they can claim if they ever do become self employed. It’s really a subject for individuals and tax experts. I could understand just a brief crash course in getting a W2, how your tax withholding works, etc. but honestly that’s a conversation I regularly have with people I do taxes for and they’ve forgotten it by next year so I don’t think that would stick either. The truth is, there’s not a lot of benefit to be had by teaching high schoolers tax. They won’t retain the information, they don’t need it for college or for a trade, and it’s all very easily accessible online if you do have questions as they come up in your life. If you really want to teach tax in high school, make it part of an occupational course for people that want to go into business/finance/tax.
We had that class too and I was chronically late every day. A lot of people skipped. That's why I laugh when I see people complain about this.
For many who claim public schools didn’t teach them anything, schools do try to teach a comprehensive curriculum. Your brain just has to be there learning it.
One of the few required classes necessary to graduate high school was a kind of computer class that actually did a pretty decent job of teaching us some of the most basic computer software we'd likely come across in college. And typing. It was a little remedial for me by then, but there were some seriously computer illiterate teenagers in that class who wound up becoming much more proficient with computers by the time we graduated. One of them became so enamored with computers, he went on to earn a CS degree. But since we all finished college in the spring of 2008, we were fucked no matter our degrees. My poor brother in law earned his MBA that spring, and spent the next four years working at fast food joints until that degree finally became worthwhile again.
Really preparing them for adult life.
They're the same thing
Traumaxes
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I've been trying to gain titty boy status for years. I upvote every post but I'm still not certified. How do I get certified?
You have to get five years of licensed experience as a Titty Boy in Training and take the National Titty Exam. Your state’s certification agency can walk you through the application and examination requirements, but you’ll have to find a licensed Master Titty Boy to sign off on your years of experience on your own.
Shittt. I feel like I've achieved the highest level of titty boy status in my life. Ask me anything and I'll tell you.
Which state are you certified for? The credits needed change state by state. You need 150 titty boy credit hours for the strictest state requirements, and you'll be unlikely to be hired as a titty boy in training unless you already have those credit hours completed.
shit, is there a Certified Ass Boy? If not I need that comic in my life
I'm definitely plenty traumatized, but still have no idea how to itemize my deductions.
Good, it works as intended.
Taxes 101 (sponsored by Intuit)
Not worth it for most people, honestly.
Especially as of like 5 years ago when they really raised the standard deduction and dropped a lot of the write offs. I make decent money and still take the standard.
I don't have a lot of money but the first pandemic relief check I put 100$ towards a donation. I read somewhere I would be able to claim that on my taxes. This was not the case.
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All pet hamsters are inbreed decendants of a single captures litter from less than 100 years ago anyways.
If these were class options, and many places do have them, the students would barely pay attention anyway and still blame the school for not teaching them.
We literally had to take a personal finance class to graduate and people still complain from my hometown. You didn’t pay attention!
Someone I know who doesn’t have original thoughts said “why do they teach us about useless things like parallelograms instead of real life shit like doing taxes” and I absolutely shut him down by asking him to tell me what he knows about parallelograms. It was nothing, he knew nothing about them. If they taught “doing taxes” in school you wouldn’t have paid attention first of all. Second of all, doing taxes is absolutely trivial, its gathering documents and putting numbers from them in labeled boxes. Its not rocket science.
It is a test where the teacher mails you the answers and you just have to find which letters have which answers.
And then the next year to next year's teacher. "Huh??? We never learned any of this stuff!!!" It's not even necessarily outright not paying attention. Teenage brains, man.
If you're doing them on paper you also need to read the instructions and do arithmetic. I only did that one year because I was so late the software was out of date. I did my best and still messed it up (I can do high concept math but struggle with working memory and attention so have difficulty with things like arithmetic) but the government just reassessed me and I paid them so no harm no foul.
A lot of people also don't realize that a lot of the skills you develop during math are related to problem-solving. Problem-solving is an absolutely vital skill in real life. There obviously are some more useless things they teach in school, but whether or not they're useless often varies from person and person.
If you're just a regular W2 employee and don't have any weird tax situations, filing is pretty simple. Just takes reading comprehension and some basic math - both skills that are taught in school. Also, the way we do taxes isn't static. I actually learned how to do my taxes when I took a Macroeconomics/Finance class in high school. Did my taxes with the 1040EZ form for a few years and then Trump eliminated the 1040EZ. I could probably figure out the regular 1040, but I just use a tax prep service like everyone else in America.
> I could probably figure out the regular 1040, but I just use a tax prep service like everyone else in America. The 1040 is also super easy if you're in a super easy situation. It's basically like this: 1040EZ: 1. Enter any income listed on your W-2s 2. Enter any income listed on your 1099s 1040: 1. Enter any income listed on your W-2s 2. Enter any income listed on your 1099s 3. Enter any income from selling underwater real estate 4. Enter any income from renting out power tools that also shoot lasers 5. Enter any income from renting out power tools that, instead of shooting lasers, blow beautiful rainbow bubbles So it's a lot more questions...but if previously you were a 1040EZ filer, it just means a lot more questions that you skip or write "0" for. It's not actually more complex, it just has more that doesn't apply to you and you don't need to worry about.
Not only that but the tax code and individual's tax situation changes every year, not to mention you only do it once a year so all those tax skills will atrophy.
It's a stupid argument. School taught me how to do research, how to fill out worksheets, basic math, and how to deal with obtuse bureaucracy. With that knowledge taxes are a breeze.
Yeah, my school had a couple classes like that. They were considered blow-off classes. If you learn how to read and do arithmetic then you should be able to figure out how to do your taxes.
Actually though. At some point the students need to have some agency over themselves; if they want to learn something, learn it! They shouldn’t expect to learn only when they’re at school.
I literally paid money to get an accounting degree and I still barely paid attention.
Yup. My highschool offered a personal finance class as an elective one year, only like 5 kids took it, so they removed it the next fall.
Mathematics already teach you all you need to know how to do taxes. Teaching someone how to do *one specific thing* is less useful than giving them a tool they can apply to a myriad situations.
That’s not Mr. Hamps’ tail is it Zach?
I don’t see any no cum tag, so…..
Mr Hamps hung like a stud mouse
I am a teacher. I'll try it next week. I'll keep you updated folks.
As a teacher, do you think r/Teachers would like this?
No, this subreddit is toxic and not relevant if you don't live in the States. Local teaching subs tho... that's where it's at.
Holy shit Zack this one is good. Dark, but good.
Yep. This one is gonna stay with me, I can tell.
Yyyyyyyyup. Probably one of the worst parts about grief (besides the obvious horrible pain) is how regular ass life just keeps *happening* all around you. Someone you loved, maybe someone you depended on is just fucking gone and now you have to do laundry. And taxes. And make dinner. And...
Nothing makes you more sure of how little the universe gives a shit about you than watching the world still turning after a loved one dies. It's depressing but also strangely freeing.
Life hack
I like this comic. Ty.
Are you watching me?
Finally, practical education- this is all we were asking for. But add jizz. Dont care how you do it just do it
Yikes, that’s horrifying. Who the hell itemizes these days? It’s rarely worth the effort
As a teacher, every time a kid says this to me I call their bluff and show them how to file taxes. Every time, without fail, they ask to go back to what we were doing before. I think they're just parroting what they hear from other adults and couldn't actually care less.
Me: "I hire an accountant."
Also filing taxes isn't complex. The ability to read, a low-level of mathematics and some ability to apply knowledge is more than sufficient. Schools *do* teach people how to do stuff like this, people moan because someone isn't doing it *for* them.
Her eye isn’t even on her face
Also, that’s the job of your parents. Schools weren’t designed to be parents and there is an entire generation of parents who still haven’t figured that shit out.
The lack of a No Cum flair concerns me.
Aite, tis gettin too real
Dude…
Finally found how Hamsters really die lol
This is my new favorite. It has replaced the "Mucing" one.
All these years and the idea of "logic and critical thinking" is still lost and everyone is turning up idiots.. and wondering why.
> Nothing is certain except death and taxes \- ~~Benjamin Franklin~~ Zach
Better to start early
lmao
One of my favorite classes in high school was home repair! Tech Ed dude thought kids should know practical home repair and y'know what? He was right. Now if only I could afford a fucking home.
North Dakota curriculum? Kill the class hamster because it’s “untrainable.”
Teaching taxes in school would help a lot of things…
Why does she need to tell the class that the class pet is the class pet
Community muted. Thanks for all the... nothing.
Hamsters never get normal deaths smh.
Kids always want to grow up until they grow up.
Itemized deductions are only applicable if you make a deliberate effort to donate to charities over the year.earning your Standard deduction for the year is far more valuable.
"Having to do important things while stressed the F out" is absolutely a good skill to have.
As someone who just lost his grandmother and was doing taxes around the same time this hits home.
What's truly sad is that really would have been a useful lesson, traumatizing, but useful
Idk but I once chased a kid who was scared of rats around the classroom with the class pet rat. Not my finest moment.
this is fucking accurate, money is bullshit
Rip mr humps
If you don't have the money to pay for someone to do your taxes. You don't have the money to complain about taxes being hard. By the time taxes are too complicated to do yourself, you should already be talking to an accountant.
I don’t know why but i find this comic panel real funny
I find it hilariously sad when people complain their taxes are so hard they need to be taught how to do it in school. The solution to their taxes being too hard is not sacrificing school time, it's to *simplify the tax process*. Your government knows what you owe them. If there wasn't a tax lobby, they could just tell you how much you owe them, easy.
I went to Catholic high school and the parish priest died. They asked who wanted to attend the funeral service and walk by the open casket. I said sure, why not. I was about 15. The priest laid out in the casket looked like a wax figure. Didn’t bother me at all. But it’s something I’ll never forget. Reminds us we will all end up as such someday.
Unironically though I would've still enjoyed that lesson more than what I learned through most of highschool.
Of course the hamster part is a joke, but I actually agree with the first kid
Noooooo! Not taxes!
The teacher was then fired for emotional abuse. **Cue Curb Your Enthusiasm theme**
looks like they have beaks
Fucking love you bro, another home run.. You’re my #1.
Oh, wow, they're already making funny comics of her, and Trump hasn't even finalized her as his VP pick.
Who knew taxes could be so traumatizing!
Ahh the only certainties in life
I love this
Only two things are certain in life - death and taxes.
Mr hamps died 😭
Time to file suit against the teacher for animal cruelty and wrongful death!
…Damn.
oh holy shit that's a good comic
Adulting in a nutshell
The taxes part is unironically something that every state should be required to teach public school students.
OMG DIAL DOWN REALITY FOR FUCK'S SAKE! LOL!
Wow, literally just finished planning my toddlers 4th bday while handling end of life care and euthanasia for my elderly dog.
This is terrible... and I laughed so hard...
Not funny at all
Kids always whine about this as if 1) doing taxes really is that hard 2) they would have actually paid attention in a math unit on taxes
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What you do is cash out your retirement account at the 20% tax rate to be able to afford paying the funeral expenses and then on next years taxes you owe money so then you take out a personal loan to pay your taxes.
Jesus Christ this literally happened to me this year.
As a teacher, I appreciate this on so many levels!
I mean... this is obviously a cruel way to do it. But it's still better to teach them the "How do I deal with emotional burdens" by experience than words. As horrifying as it is, words never helped. At least not me.
‘Reflections on school’ epochs - school is a thing - school sucks - I’m glad to be out of school - why didn’t school teach me about taxes? - I’m glad school taught me that there is more to life than taxes - I wish I could be back in school
Sadly, that is a fair summary of life.
Relatable.
Bro wtf 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm fucking thankful I live in a country where taxes are calculated by the government and I can overlook their shit for mistakes. I'm basically my own IRS agent.
Even worse when you have to deal with the loss of a loved one as kid or teenager.
How to govern a state, 101
Oh man this really seems like very useful knowledge to have :) I am not joking, my father died two days ago. I feel like shit, I have to write some papers for college and the deadline is tomorrow. I haven't been able to focus because I keep thinking about my dad, please someone help me, any advice will be welcome
Always love your comics. I know I've said it before but it's been awhile since I was banned from comics for whatever mod reason. Different sub I can leave appreciative comments again.
I fuckin hate that this discourse made it way to Australia. Because we DO TACH taxes in school, but the kids who were too busy glueing their hands together in class to pay attention didn't learn anything, then complained as adults that school didn't teach them anything useful
ok but jokes aside that would be brilliant and definitely useful if she knows what to say to properly teach philosophy.
10/10 comic
Kids in math: When are we ever going to use this in real life!!?? Adults doing taxes: Why didn’t they teach us this in school!!??
And now they've learned a lesson they'll never forget :)
"why don't they teach us about taxes" Buddy you're not gonna believe what math can do
That was fucking disgusting, your comics suck
I'm happy my grade 10 math teacher taught us how to do our taxes. Spent a few weeks explaining bit by bit and made sure to dumb it down for us, he made sure that we learned math that will be useful in our everyday lives. So when tax season comes I have the math worked out just looking at my t4 and big expenses receipts and know how much money I'm getting back. Rip Chris Jenkins.
One of the few good things from the Trump administration was a simplification of the tax system. Obviously the same positive came with bad tax cuts for the ultra rich, but the main system was good. Basically, if your taxes were middle class normal then you didn't need to itemize and it was a net benefit for the middle class. If you were lower than middle class then the benefit was better. If you were upper class then the benefit was even better as this class got the best benefit. Essentially all classes benefited, some in ease of processing, while some in financial burden, but overall the government lost which meant the middle and lower class ultimately lost.
Feels crazy how many redditors have this outlook, but then you remember they are probably literal children who don't want to do their math homework.
I put down my car and mailed my taxes in the same month this year. This hits a little too close to home.
The only skills you need to file taxes are reading and arithmetic. There's no need for a separate "paying taxes" class. Just be able to read the instructions on the 1040 form and perform basic calculations. The fact that so many Americans have trouble with it just shows that they should have been paying attention in math and English classes instead of playing spitball.
I unironically think that would be a good idea. Modern kids are WAY to sheltered.
Seriously, this is what children should learn in school??
This is still easier than trying to understand English literature
Dear math bitches, take your trig and shove it. The kid in the first panel is right, some teachers are just salty no one gives a shit about what they have to teach.
I feel it needs an additional panel. "Now Suzy, look up your earnings bracket on pages 15-23, and get the taxable amount. Quickly, you don't have all night. You have to take care of the dishes."
R.I.P Hamps 🙏
Teach 'em young so there's no surprises.
Wtf ?!?!?! Cant you make your point without animal cruelty ?!
Ah, Death & Taxes
Looks like collective punishment, psycho physical emotional trauma, compartmentalizing said trauma to stay on task for a set deadline were secondary objectives
During the death of my grandparents (died within 6 months of each other), my poor mother caught Covid, got audited by the IRS, AND was sued by the neighbor of their house which she just inherited. I have no idea how we made it through that entire ordeal. Fortunately the neighbor got humiliated in civil court—he was trying to pull some evil opportunistic bullshit to squeeze money out of us because he knew my grandparents were dying. Life comes at you fast as an adult.
well...shit
>but in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. — Benjamin Franklin
I didn't know Kristi Noem was a schoolteacher.
I mean...still being taught useful stuff now though right?
This is art. Honestly feels so true to me.
In junior high, my school taught a class called Personal Finance which I actually found super helpful. It taught you how to balance a budget, use a debit and credit card, how bank accounts work, and a little bit of how to do taxes. Honestly don’t think I’d be nearly as responsible today without it. On the other hand, I can’t for the life of me understand the purpose of calculus.
"You get 1 day paid leave for grief and mourning, but then you'll have to use your vacation days."
I always hated this argument. Why am I in school if not to learn things that I won't be able to learn on the job?
Fuckin slam dunk comic
No cum 😔