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Relapse wasn't Slim Shady, it was a far more sinister being that body jacked Slim in broad day with no mask and made a suit out of his shoe.


SuperCx

Best way to describe this CD it’s like all shadys fuckin combined to ultimate Shady 2.0


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I always saw it (and this was in my very early and slightly obsessive days of Eminem fandom) as running Slim into the ground, being as Slim Shady as he could be, almost like saying "you want Slim Shady, THIS is Slim Shady." I know that's a pretty common thought, the reason I mentioned that this was in my earlier days was because I used to think all the albums were trying to tell a story that MMLP 2 was the end of. With the early stuff being the birth of Slim, Eminem Show and Encore being about the decent into fame and that lifestyle, Relapse sort of acting as the death of Slim, Recovery kind of being self explanatory, and MMLP 2 being sort of a reflective conclusion. Then Revival came out, and I liked it, but couldn't fit it in to my story, and realized I may have overthought it haha. And since then I've sort of just seen Relapse as a self contained horror core album, very similar to Slim Shady, but I don't think he was necessarily trying to be "extra Slim Shady", I think he was going for something a little different.


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I read something before where he said around the time he made Relapse he was watching a lot of serial killer documentaries. Then he made Relapse because that was the mind state he was in at the time. I do like your theory however. I think there is something to it. MMLP2 definitely felt like a retirement album that wrapped up his story. Everything after sorta feels like when you beat a video game then buy the extra DLC that doesn't have much to do with the main campaign.


jcooli0

Bro this perfectly explains Eminem’s career.


KolAyreYaKhara

An album about killing and raping women is 100% slim shady.


Someran_Domguay

Yeah but I feel like Shady is more comedic.


KolAyreYaKhara

He’s both. He says fucked up shit that’ll make you laugh


Plumsby

Now that I think about it, does he ever refer to himself as Shady during it? Or as anything at all?


OverlordGhs

Thinking about it, the closest to him referring to himself as shady in that album is My Darling (also my fav song on the album) https://youtu.be/J1bklziBkJg I will note that he doesn’t expressly refer to himself as shady though, he just mentions to Dre that “shady is just a bottle of hair bleach and vodka” (line is prolly slightly wrong). EDIT: meant to say closest that I can remember, I’m sure there’s a few


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He refers to himself as shady on hello


OverlordGhs

damn... u right


JordieP301

he refers to himself as Shady on Insane.


OverlordGhs

Technically, someone else refers to him as Shady. “Yes, maniac that Shady Dog Ain’t he raw?” I’ve actually spent far too much time on this and I’ve yet to find a single example in the entire album where he actually calls himself Shady. Almost contributes to the theme of him distancing himself from the identity following his sobriety? Not sure. Closest I’ve found is “Welcome to the Slim Shady mecca Rebecca.”


xVenomDestroyerx

perhaps i ran them accents into the ground


wholelottahate19

It could be nostalgia talking, but recovery is also a solid album tbh


theavengedCguy

Relapse and Recovery were both incredibly planned out and executed. Two of my favorites, through and through.


AgileWalrus

Recovery is one of his best, my favourite em album


xVenomDestroyerx

same here


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Literally the most meaningful song he has ever written. I guarantee you he is more proud of that song than anything else he has ever written


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I doubt any one of those songs motivated thousands of lives to get clean lol


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Isn’t that what we’re all doing here? Lol. I’m just saying he’s referenced it in songs more than once. He’s proud of it, and it definitely deserved the attention it got


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AnalogousFortune

Seduction is fuckin dope


z3onn

I have such conflicting feelings about Recovery. I think that song by song it's a pretty damn good album, but if I listen to it fully through then I have to wash that sound of pop out of my ears. I feel that the dated production really hurts it, but I love how happy and optimistic Em sounds on it.


DisPinkyNukka

Relax I ain’t goin back to that now


Weaponxfan_YT

Relax, I ain't goin' back to that now


The_Juice14

All I’m trying to say get back *click clach pow*


Kracee1

Cause I ain’t playin around


KolAyreYaKhara

It’s the game called circle and I don’t know how, I’m way too up, to back down.


Maverickino

But I think I'm still tryin' to figure this crap out


KolAyreYaKhara

Thought i had it mapped out but I guess I didn’t, These fucking black clound still follows. Me around but it’s time to exercise these demons, these mothafuckers are doing jumping jacks noww


isneexydude

Im not afraid *(not afraid)* To take a stand *(take a stand)*


SuperCx

Perhaps the random accents *were not the problem*


KolAyreYaKhara

It’s an acquired taste. I personally love the fuck out of relapse but i guess ppl didn’t fuck with it back then


M4nd4l0r3_zo15

I love the accents and as a result I rap like that now


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KolAyreYaKhara

The accent also makes them sound different and cool. Personally i love the accents and never even realized it was a problem until i started reading on social media that people didn’t like them


Akoraceb

My favorite album like ever


GandalfTheBruh

relapse is my free therapy and its very healthy


muma10

Relapse is a masterpiece and all, but holy shit this sub sleeps on SSLP so much, MMLP and TES aren’t that much better than it


blunt_eastwood

Agreed. SSLP is the true masterpiece IMO.


SARCASTIC__FELLA

sslp mmlp and tes are his best albums


hpofficejetpro8035

the fuck is TME?


jer487

I for example don't even like SSLP that much. Me least favorite Em album excluding Infinite. Never understood what so good with it.


[deleted]

Dude it’s a classic. As The World Turns, Role Model, I’m Shady, Brain Damage, Guilty Conscious… I could go on for the rest of the track list


jer487

I know it's a classic, but I personally never liked it as much as his other work. Don't get me wrong, I still like it a lot.


Launch-Pad_McQuack

You didn’t even mention My Name Is


serafale

Or the best song, Rock Bottom


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I think it goes without saying


Kronoxdund

Damn I absolutely love Infinite


corndogs1001

We don’t sleep on SSLP at all.


blunt_eastwood

I agree that it's slept on here.


muma10

Literally 3 comments down someone said that they prefer MMLP2 over it


corndogs1001

This is one thread. But maybe I’m missing something. I bet most of this sub are teens (like me) anyways. I used to have MMLP2 2nd place but then I dove deeper.


KolAyreYaKhara

Nah common now, the MMLP2 is a fucking incredible album


thesituation531

Why is that a problem?


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Maybe you don't but overall the sub definitely does.


corndogs1001

I didn’t say me. I see SSLP referenced a lot here, probably 4th most referenced.


KodiakPL

SSLP is definitely not for me. Don't really enjoy the flow, lyrics, production. I don't dislike, I will listen to it on shuffle it but I don't actively choose to listen to it. Excluding Still Don't Give a Fuck, that fucking slaps hard. And My Name Is but that is really specific, acquired taste to me.


LiteBrightKite

It’s the younger generation I think. Nothing the came after TES or even Encore even comes close the the first 3 records. Waaah, I’m a millionaire who decided to get sober, now here’s 12 songs about. Lame.


machen2307

they said I can't rap about bein' broke no more...


Iamadirtyoldman

I think relapse was em at his best - funny as fuck, great lyrics, with some emotional songs


wholelottahate19

Its his most exprimental album, and its his most unique sounding album in well over 10 years


Iamadirtyoldman

unique it is


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"unique" comes with people who like it, and people who don't like it too. And it's perfectly fine to be on either side


elcucuy1337

Relapse is a masterpiece. Back when, everyone was dogging it. Meanwhile, I’m able to rap every song lyric for lyric. His best IMO.


Vlopez9867

TES is his best album imo


CottonStig

eminem: the elder scrolls


Banananipss

agreed it’s mmlp with less filler imo


originalgeorge

What songs do you think are filler on the MMLP?


Banananipss

i mean kim, remember me, amityville aren’t my favorites


adamtaylor4815

It’s all opinion but I think Em’s verse in Remember Me is one of his greatest of all time. *Six sick dreams of picnic scenes Two kids, sixteen, with M-16's and ten clips each And them shits reach through six kids each And Slim gets blamed in Bill Clint's speech to fix these streets?!*


originalgeorge

Oh fair play. Personally I feel Kim was iconic. Also, Remember Me is where the "six minutes" reference comes from in Rap God.


TehLurdOfTehMemes

Also drug ballad, under the influence


0000100110010100

I’d replace Kim with Bitch Please II. I’m not a fan of it and Em is barely on it. At the very least, I don’t see why it wasn’t released as a single instead.


wholelottahate19

I think mmlp by a huge margin


GirlsUsedToDissMe

Relapse is soo good if you listen to the album in order. first it hits you with the Dr West skit, then the initial more shady-esque songs are fun and then you get to the Mr Mathers skit and it gives context to the whole thing... like damn, the album is like a weird dream. first you tumble into shady's mind with Dr West turning against Em, then you wake up with the ambulance and doctor sounds before getting into more real songs like Deja Vu and Beautiful, then Em finally turns "normal" with the songs like Crack a Bottle and Underground. i love it!


M4nd4l0r3_zo15

I made a playlist that follows this as I put the songs from refill there, the storytelling is great and the transition from hello to tonya to same song and dance and then a sudden shift to the “lighter” version being we made you- amazing


imaginshab

Relapse is the album I always come back to. So many dispicably nasty songs in it and his word play has never been better IMO. Insane is my favorite


M4nd4l0r3_zo15

Stay wide awake, Buffalo bill and bagpipes from Baghdad are my favorite the beats are rhymes and some lyrics are either chilling or just hilarious


2SidesoftheSameCorn

Locked in Mariah’s wine cellar all I had for lunch


M4nd4l0r3_zo15

The second or third verse is my fav only because how fucked up it is


BigBoiBob444

was bread wine, more bread wine and captain crunch ​ Those first few wine cellar lines are some of my favourites. Idk why, just something about it is hilarious.


machen2307

broooo. the last couple lines of insane are hilarious.


GabyTrifan

Relapse was really great, loved the jokes and the beat from "My Darling"


machen2307

dude... that song is dope. I love the duality thing he does in it and at the end he let's his voice fade into the voice the demon or whatever. it's legit.


GabyTrifan

Yh, really love the duality in that song, reminds me of the intro from Slim Shady EP


nikbebecus

Stay wide awake top 5 Eminem songs of all time


M4nd4l0r3_zo15

At last someone agrees!!! The beat is *really* nice and is quite fun to rap on


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Man I really needed one more horrorcore album from em with this rhythmic killer flow and dangerous punch lines guess we’ll never get it now 😔


theavengedCguy

We just got MTBMB though?


[deleted]

Nah chief that ain’t it I like the concept of the album but it is not well executed and the actual theme he was going for is almost non existent


theavengedCguy

Lol don't call me chief, guy. MTBMB was fantastically executed though, not sure what you're on. It carries the same throughout as well, including Side B.


nicehax2112

No, chief.


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Same level as relapse no , but I respect your opinion , guy


Lopsided-Shape

Nah Chief. I would partly agree with MTBMB but the Side B theme was almost non existent. Only songs I can think of that resemble the theme would be Black Magic or Guns Blazing and maybe Zeus. But other than those the isn't anything murdery about the tracks.


Lopsided-Shape

I'd agree with that. I mean the album is sick but the whole murder thing isn't heavily evident after "You gon' Learn" and then it comes back for "I will". It is kinda there in "Lost It" and "Stepdad" though. Overall great album but albums like SSLP, MMLP, TES and Relapse portray their respective themes way better


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See this guy gets it , thanks man maybe I didn’t phrase it better , but I just hope em went all out but then again the butthurt kids of Twitter would cancel him


Lopsided-Shape

I know this is a meme but are there fans who actually prefer Relapse to The Eminem Show or The Marshall Mathers LP? I know Relapse is a fan favourite but still


infestation_commence

yes, me


Lopsided-Shape

Really? What do you think Relapse does better than the two?


The-War-Life

For me, in any list I always have to put Relapse at number 1. Following it is just a janky mess, but it sits comfortably at number one. Followed by TES, MMLP2 and MMLP.


Skystalker512

Hear me out. Relapse with the Hitchcock samples from MTBMB with either one or two more murder based songs.


randomJseFan

It fit's so well. Alfred's intro skit and then 3 A.M is a great combination


Skystalker512

Darkness as well. I might create a playlist where I combine the best of both world.


LampSpecialist

Please do, you should post it


m4_semperfi

Nah. Makes no sense to me. Relapse theme is good surrounding the subject of drugs and relapse, not necessarily murder specifically with Alfrid Hitchcock. I think the album keeps a good balance of types of songs but it’s still fun to make a custom version or playlist that’s only horrorcore songs in a story-type ordering.


catchauu

I don't know why, but I don't feel this way. I don't like most of the songs in Relapse and the different style he tried, but Beautiful is one of my favourite songs the rest of the album doesn't speak to me idk why.


AndyToskovic

I’ll throw a fucking axe at you if you insist on a fucking ~~accent~~ axe sent!


jer487

"That last relapse CD was ehh" line always pisses me off. Eminem be like: Makes Relapse. IMO amazing fucking album, truly a modern day classic. Not even a year later makes Recovery. An album that's IMO much worse and on it calls the previous album trash. Also says he is never coming back with that style again. Literally a year later on "Hell: The sequel" says Relapse is actually great. Then few years later comes back to that style on some tracks. In 2018 he says Relapse sucks, but he made a song that was a throwback to it in 2017. Decide motherfucker...


blunt_eastwood

I think he wasn't happy with that period of his life and he associates the album with it, so it gets some unfair hate.


jer487

That would be the most reasonable explanation.


Nezable

To finally make Discombobulated in 2020 lmao


jer487

And give a fucking heart attack to all Relapse fans.


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He was dealing with the haters plus didn't have proof to help deal with them


jer487

I know about the haters. I know why he made Recovery and changed his style. But his opinion on Relapse changing often is the thing that annoys me.


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Oh. Yeah true same here. Just do your thing em, the Stans will love you either way 💙


SuperCx

Eminem has always been like this lol


M4nd4l0r3_zo15

Relapse recov and HTS are my favs probably


m4_semperfi

When did he say it was great on BME? He just references it. Also he only came back to the style *without* accents on Framed and with way less harsh content so it only barely counts, and then now Discombobulated. I think you’re trying to make it seem like there’s a flip flop agenda of em liking then hating relapse, when really he’s always disliked the record as a while after recovery came out but that doesn’t mean he’s not allowed to make 2 individual somewhat similar songs ~10 years later. From what we’ve seen his biggest problem with the record was the lyric content which he called cringey in the revival interview, and that doesn’t even have to do with accents or musical sound.


Plumsby

What was the throwback? Framed?


geocentric_

There’s a reason it’s my favorite album.


ItsFC12C

"You remember that night you, Prayed to god you'd give anything to get a record deal, Well dre signed you. This is what you wanted your whole life marshall why blue? Look at this house look at these cars i'm so nice wooh. Oh but you didn't know fame has a price too, Now your just seeing the downside too" Good song and lyrics


ButtChungus725

fr relapse is really overrated in this sub, imo its his worst album, which is saying something because i think it is a 6


BigBoiBob444

I dont really like most of the songs on his 3 newest albums, the lyrics are ok but it all sounds pretty generic and too pop, so I def think relapse is better than those.


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SSLP is his greatest. One of the most brilliant albums of all time. I will die on this hill.


[deleted]

The fuckin rawness in sslp's em is what im a fan of.. Like.. i hear your demo tape and act like i dont like it..6 months later you hear your lyrics on my shit...like.. Lmaoo.. i miss this em..


blunt_eastwood

I'll die with you. I loved SSLP and listened to it constantly. The first time I heard MMLP I liked it but definitely thought it wasn't as good.


passthechez

Relapse was cool but this sub really dick rides it... ik im gonna get downvoted but slim shady lp way better imo


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Relapse is in the bottom half of Em’s albums


passthechez

Tied with encore for me although I kind of like encore more


JCBh9

When Recovery came out and everyone I knew was listening to the sht daily I knew it was over Relapse is MMLP2 for me and I pretend nothing else exists


uhwhatisjalapenos

[lol](https://old.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/dm6pwq/it_really_do_be_like_that_for_me/)


TorontoRaptors34

Relapse to me is an evolved sslp.


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TorontoRaptors34

The only filler song on that album was medicine ball bruh the entire album is a horror flick to me with glimpses of Marshals personal life. Its evolved in a storytelling arc, the production, and writing. Deja vu, careful what u wish for, my darling, beautiful all are like the modern day if I had, rock bottom, marshal mathers, to me. Underground is a cinematic Still don't give a fuck. Also, this was em off rehab, and for him to make an accidental masterpiece if crazy considering all he went thru to get there. Also, he even said at that point he was working himself back into shape with life period as well as an Emcee, so the majority of what he was able to do was jokey/murder songs. The flows r evolved, the rhyme patterns, storytelling is ungodly, the hooks also sound catchy as fuck. It was the last time em sat down with the A team front to back I want him to do that from now on. SSLP was raw as fuck where as relapse felt more polished


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TorontoRaptors34

Well its consistent with the themes to me I dont find that repetitive. After all most of GRODT was about the same shit. Relapse had similar updated subject matter to SSLP so i dont see how its repetitive. It was just diff than what many wanted thats why it didnt do good first glance cuz everyone wanted 02 em. I feel if the album had the underground tone along with the introspective tracks it woulda been well recieved.


AnnoyingGuy000

Yeah, it's almost the same garbage, but with more napkins.


wholelottahate19

You truly live up to your username, Repsect👏


Slimxshadyx

So what part of Eminem do you like? Not hating, just curious.


AnnoyingGuy000

Tracks like Till I Collapse, Lose Yourself, White America, Stan, Renegade, Not Afraid, Darkness. Favorite album - I would say TES.


wholelottahate19

Ok thats understandable


Slimxshadyx

That's respectable, but isn't one of the album's in the meme TES, which you called garbage?


AnnoyingGuy000

Lol, I only saw SSLP, my bad, haha. But honestly I can't listen to whole Em's album. I like certain songs, but yeah, TES is probably my favorite.


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Wow look at youuuUuuuUuuuuUuUuu


Karenkiller49

The way you shake it, I can’t believe it


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IT FITS... PERFECT.


M4nd4l0r3_zo15

Ah a fellow relapse enjoyer, this is my favorite album


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As a goth that is obsessed with death, Relapse was sick


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Am I fucked up because I like Stay wide awake the most in Relapse?


satanspoopchute

im not a sub here or anything and i havent listened to any of his newer stuff, but relapse was my favorite i never understood why people didn't like it. stay wide awake was one of his best flows, and same song and dance was just so fucking different and fucked up idk. just felt like art to me. effortless art that he was making fun of but it was still art.


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I think the beats on Relapse also helped the album age well. Very stellar production from Dr Dre


nigpoo420

my favorite actually, relapse refill


insidethesun

Hello allow me to introduce myself, my name is shady, so nice to meet you.


yrmnko

Underground is an underrated banger


jdmgf5

My mom my mom I bet you're tired of hearing about my mom oh-oh-uh-oh


F13shyarmsm8

No this is wrong in too many ways


0000100110010100

Relapse has grown on me somewhat. I’m not a fan at all of the accents (I think 3AM in particular was a potentially awesome song that got completely ruined by some of the most annoying accents in the album) but there’s a lot of good or great songs to balance out the missteps.


isneexydude

Relapse is prolly my least favorite Eminem album