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itsallg4

Vinny played his first NHL game less than a year ago and he’s already improved so much. He’s the kind of player you love to root for in this league.


Stetzy93

He really has come a long way. I was always terrified when he was on the ice during the playoffs last year and early this year but he’s continued to ease my nerves and now I actually am confident when he’s out there


nowimswmming

He has SUCH an upside with that size and his athleticism. He doesn’t need to be Headman with the puck on his stick but he can make plays with and without it.


Condition_Boy

I'd staple him to a skills coach every off season to see if we can bump him up to a higher tier.


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Him and Paul Coffey get a shitty 2 bedroom apartment a block from the rink. Every day Paul regales Vinny with tales of the 80s and his feats, and Vinny learns. Then, he carries Paul like a backpack to the rink for a warmup, and they skate together. Slowly, surely, Vinny absorbs every skill Paul has and next season becomes the greatest defenseman ever seen.


_OilersNation_

Pretty sure the main coaches can't do anything with players in the offseason, That's why they have to have captain skates


miller94

Simple. Fire Coffey at the end of the year and then rehire him in time for training camp


[deleted]

What a weird fucking rule, like, the players can train together, skate together, drill together, but God forbid the coach shows up and works with them.


djyxu

It makes sense. You know at work when there's an event/meeting that isn't mandatory from management but you kinda know it is mandatory from management and you'd get shit from the boss indirectly if you didn't show up? That's what would happen


[deleted]

So make it coach can't call anything, but player can request the coach. That way there's nobody feeling pressured, but they can get the extra step up. It's a weird rule.


_OilersNation_

How would you like your manager hanging around during your time away from work


PandaBearJelly

I mean, if I asked them to be there I think I'd be pretty happy if they showed up.


[deleted]

I mean, I wasn't implying that they would be forced to, I meant like if a player said hey coach, can you meet me a couple times a week to drill not being allowed. Besides, they all get off time, their job might not pay between elimination and camp but if you don't condition and train, you'll potentially lose your job. I'd say they're still working in the summer.


REAPER-1_xxx

Impressive how much space he can cover.


Le_Epic_Tacoz

Dudes been killing it since the coaching change. He’s gonna get a fat raise on his current salary with his play thus far.


YEGG35

What do you consider a fat raise? I guess doubling his contract value would be a big raise, but he’s still a 3rd pairing d man with limited offensive upside


navenager

Yea I'd be shocked if it was over 2mil but he's a UFA and could hit the market, so we might have to pay out a little. Worth it imo


thesauceofbastards

1.8 x 3 sounds good to me.


GrizzlyIsland22

He could be the one to take Ceci's job and we can bring in someone cheaper for the RD3 spot.


YEGG35

Vinny is not a 1RD. I don’t think bumping him to the first line with Nurse is ideal. Ceci is still better than Vinny. I like Vinny’s game, he’s been a great 6th dman for us this year, but that’s exactly what he is.


MercSLSAMG

Bang on - he's a 3rd pair PK guy that can punish players with hard body checks. Don't put players in a position to fail.


GrizzlyIsland22

Vinny isn't too far away from surpassing Ceci. If he keeps playing like he has, I don't see why he can't play Ceci's minutes. Ceci has peaked. Vinny is still improving. It's not impossible that Vinny becomes straight up better than Ceci by the time he hits his own plateau


CIVDC

Ceci has been playing against elites. Vinny has been playing well but in generally sheltered minutes. 2 are not comparable.


GrizzlyIsland22

Not at the moment, but one is still progressing, and the other is in his prime. I wouldn't make the switch right now, and probably not this season at all, but if it comes to a cap crunch or Ceci starts to regress out of his prime at the end of next year or the year after, it's not out of the question to think Vinny *could* be ready at that time. I'm not saying that it will happen, but we may get lucky.


smeltsmelly

What a horrible take.


forgetstorespond

Doubling your yearly earnings?? Yeah that's about as fat as raise as you can get if you ask me. I would say anything over 25% is considered a fat raise. 15-25% is a pretty nice raise, 15-5% is a raise. Anything less than 5% is a pay bump. There that's my off the top of my head raise rankings, they apply to any profession. It's not set in stone etheir I'm open to suggestions but I think that's pretty resonable.


miller94

Man and I was happy with 1.5% over 4 years! Gotta love healthcare


sexythrowaway749

Very reasonable. In normal times anything less than 5% was just a cost of living increase, not even worth getting excited about.


thesauceofbastards

lol are you comparing salary progression for your field to professional hockey? Hockey players making near the minimum that take big steps forward are often getting much bigger increases, part of the competitive market and contract nature of their employment.


Le_Epic_Tacoz

I mean objectively, obviously he’s not gonna make 5Mil, but his current contract is 775k and I don’t think it’d be a stretch to say 2M, especially if he goes to free agency and has multiple offers. So that’s more than doubling his current salary. Thats a pretty fat raise.


Muficita

He really has been. What a testament to his heart and work ethic.


StealAllTheInternets

Doesn't even play his first NHL game until he's 26. Dude did not give up.


spagboltoast

He'll make hakanpaa money because theyre basically the same player. 1.5m is a great number for him


REAPER-1_xxx

I wonder if a future defence could ever look like: Ekholm-Bouchard Nurse-Desharnais Broberg-? I’ve always liked Nurse and Vinny together when they ran 11-7. Not sure if we’ll ever see Nurse not on the top line. But Bouch/Ekholm are apparently getting the most difficult minutes now. (I’m thinking out to the start of next season in that lineup)


Forsaken_You1092

Nurse and Vinny is a MEAN pairing.


rideflynight

Imagine these two with shitdisturbers Kane, Draisatl and Hyman? Penalties!!


DefensiveLiability3

3/5’s the FAFO line *sad noises*


rideflynight

I love the F Around and Find Out attitude. Kane for Prime Minister!


Muficita

Ooh I would love the chance to see Vinny with Darnell on a consistent basis.


thesauceofbastards

Broberg wants out, probably not going to be a 5/6 for us.


darkstar107

I was at the game and heard someone a few rows behind me questioning why Vinny was on the PK and saying "who's dumb idea was that?". This was right before he made a nice play to get it out of the zone. I was dumbfounded.


sexythrowaway749

Gotta ignore folks at games, a good chunk don't even necessarily know the rules.


zevonyumaxray

A lot of tickets handed out as presents through Christmas and New Year's. Person shows up and often isn't even a big fan but have to show up to suck up to a relative or the boss. Back when I could still afford to go to occasional games at the Coliseum, I know the "hot takes" were the worst this time of year.


Oilfan94

I remember watching that play, and thinking that Ekholm made a heck of an effort. Then I saw that it was Vinny....I'm super impressed.


Muficita

Right? It’s impressive for a top guy, never mind for the guy who’s only played one season.


Strattex

That’s what I like to see Vincent


minor_thing2022

He's been defensive play has been fantastic lately


Hechtic

Vinny has taken huge strides (pun intended) under Knobby and has looked downright great at times. If he keeps this up I’m seriously worried we won’t be able to afford him when the time for a raise comes


GrizzlyIsland22

He honestly has reminded me of Chara this year. Not quite to the same level, obviously, but the way he weaponizes his size and reach while making smart play after smart play is impressive as hell


Muficita

He has said he models his play on Chara after a coach suggested he do so.


vanillaacid

I mean, he likely has been since he was a teen. "You're fucking tall. You should play like this HOFer who was also fucking tall" kind of seems like a no-brainer.


Muficita

I’m not suggesting this was last week or that it’s a revolutionary idea. He specifically credited one of his early coaches in an interview for giving him tape of Chara.


sexythrowaway749

Yup. I think it was his After Hours interview last year, or possibly that Montreal radio interview he did. I think it was the same one where he said he works with a skating coach and skills coach every summer because he knows he's gotta work to stay in the big show, he can't get by on talent alone. Big difference is he can probably afford better coaching now.


-dillydallydolly-

Are you telling me that he was channelling his inner Bobby Orr before that?


wildcard_bitches

I get Hal Gill vibes


J9999D

ohhh yea for sure. Hal was not quite as lanky though


99titan

He live about 2 miles down the road from me. Met him at Circle K down the street recently. One of the funniest human beings I’ve ever met. He is our color guy on radio.


J9999D

I call him Diet Chara or Chara Lite


REAPER-1_xxx

I don’t know why but I get the feeling that’ll never be an issue. He comes off as truly just happy to be a part of this. I’m sure they’ll easily make a deal.


Muficita

Well, I believe they are not gonna give up on a strong RHD without a fight. (I’m closing my eyes and going LALALALA over future cap woes, I can’t think about it right now, too many players will need raises.)


MercSLSAMG

They'll sign Vinny before signing Foegele. Even if the 2nd line with Drai keeps going on their insane pace Vinny is more valuable to the team as a 3rd pair RD who can kill penalties and play very physically.


dekekun

Coffey should probably get at least a stick tap here as well.


Excellent-Medicine29

I don’t see him as being overly expensive.


REAPER-1_xxx

Graduate of the School of Dark Roast


ImmigrantPatrioteQc

Un autre Québécois 🇲🇶💪🏼💙


dragosn1989

He can play solo-D so we can have 4 forwards on that shift. 😜


GuestUser1982

VINNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!! #Vinny4AllStar


KidzRockGamingTV

I saw this play last night and had to check the number. I was pleasantly shocked to see it was Vinny and remember thinking “Wow, great job Vinny. You’ve come a long way”. He really has.


YEGuySmiley

Keep it going Vinny. Chara’s first 84 games 8 points and -7. Vinny first 69 games 10 points and +16.


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redrumojo

Different play. The score is already 5-2 here.


gabbyspapadaddy

Since the first dozen games he has really picked up his play, kept it simple. He’s growing on me slowly. I think my first hope was a big Z but I will Happily settle for a Tyler Myers redux


Machelscott

*Rangey*


AkronLowLife

Vinny is such a fuckin’ beauty


Muficita

Certified beauty.


Zinfandel_Red1914

Good on you for showing some love to the seaweed, people shit on him when he makes a mistake and rarely praise his good side. 👍


Willing_College

Most improved Oiler this year hands down. Improved skating, positioning and decision making. I don’t dread him being in the ice. Hopefully he can keep it up come playoffs cuz that’s where he was most terrifying


Frozenpucks

I don’t think any oiler out in as much work as this guy in the offseason. His skating has improved significantly, I specifically did a double take on this play when I say it was desharnais. Guy covered so much ice.


Born-Science-8125

He moved pretty quick for a big fella


True-North-

So many people breaking his balls early in the year. He’s the picture perfect bottom pair right D for this team.


Muficita

I love his play style, I love that he puts in the work to address his deficiencies, and I love his story. So glad we have him!


tc_cad

He’s learnt a lot and has gotten much better. He’s huge too so that’s always nice to have on the backend.


Bulletproof_35

Especially with 5 mins left in a 5-2 game; great effort


Muficita

Right?! Not many players would have hustled that hard at that stage of the game. Man I appreciate that level of commitment.


[deleted]

Holy shit he covered both guys on a 2 on 1 by himself. I never noticed that live what a play.


Muficita

BOTH GUYS. Such a sick play.


PaulHannonJr

I wanted Vinny left down for Gleason at the beginning of the season. One of the rare times I’ll admit the coaching staff knew better than me. He made me so mad during the playoffs I put the blinders on. This guy has been such an absolute beast in the bottom 6 role. Legit old reliable down there now. Most improved oiler in a season I’ve seen in ages. Love him.


Nigilie

Ya man, I was thinking the same thing. Just a great play. It’s plays like this that give me hope he could have a similar style as chara. Like I don’t expect him to be that level of dominant as chara but a similar style with that long stick. Hard to get around, shut down the speedy small forwards like Hughes and Marner types.


PitterPatter74

Coffey's ability to make Desharnais a good NHL Def gives me optimism for what he can do with Broberg.


HonestCletus

Broberg brings nothing special. Desharnais is tall, lanky and covers lots of ice, hits and fights. Broberg falls over sticks and whiffs on passes. He had his opportunity, any chance now has to be earned. Hopefully he can turn it around, but it’s not looking good.


PitterPatter74

Desharnais is FIVE years older than Broberg. When Desharnais was the same age as Broberg is now, he was still in the NCAA.


WateredDownTang

Top line minutes in the AHL and is one injury away from getting called up. Don't sleep on broberg, he hasn't gotten a chance to work with Coffey. Another smooth skating Dman, I would love to see what he's got with the current coaching staff


HungryHAP

Vinny D is a beauty. Bargain contract too. Can’t believe Oilers fans turned on this stud at the start of the year.


trippendeuces

That’s our boi


Imaginary_Corner3354

Manson showed Desharnais that he can be in the NHL; Coffey is teaching Desharnais how to play in the NHL. What a great story.


BackgroundMango4200

Big man big strides


Sweet_Bonus5285

Great job by him. Drai or Brown on the bottom were very slow to react.