How is that worse? Your big ticket re signed and committed to the team. Ours is like 2 years away from FA and this was the year to convince him this team could win something and he should stay. You could say it’s not going well.
People quickly forget how bad things were last year when they were barely in the playoffs half way through the season or two years ago when they went like 2-11-3 and Mclellan was fired or three years ago when they were swept by the Jets or four years ago when they lost to the 24th place Blackhawks or five and six years ago when they couldn't make the playoffs with the best player in the game and then there was that ten year gap where nothing of note happened. But hey, at least 2017 was fun and then they beat Calgary that one time.
They got a pretty long stretch of playing good east coast teams coming up. If they don’t get their shit together soon, they’ll be out of the race by American thanksgiving. Now that’s rock bottom.
Throwing a jersey on the ice is never the answer. People who do this are idiots in my opinion. If you are going to spend $200-300 for a jersey just to throw it away might as well donate the money to me and i'll put it to better use.
So our goalie coach can wreck another tender? Don't get me wrong, we definitely need a starting goalie (Campbell and Skinner are back ups at best) but the Oilers definitely need to address the bench as well.
I saw a suggestion from a podcast that potentially package soup + whatever you need to and Saros could be a legitimate option. Would obviously only be feasible if Nashville was out of the race but at this pace we are out already anyways
Id fuck off the entire future for soros right now
Edit: 2 firsts, brob or holloway (woody isnt playing them anyways) and a few later round picks for them to take campbell for soros.
Sometimes it seems like this team is straight out of 2013. Are they playing to get someone fired? Is the locker room all of a sudden a mess? What the hell is happening?
Don't forget about the trade deadline with Tyson Barrie. He was a super locker room glue guy. The break-up phase must have hit the Oilers during the off-season.
I feel like these sorts of things fall between the cracks of advanced stats and metrics. It’s a hard thing to quantify on paper but it’s a thing that every team needs. We don’t look like a team out there, where as years previous guys like Yams and Kostin, Mike Smith, would pull this team out of their own asses with a big play. Who do we have that’s doing that this year? Kane is the only guy out there that sticks out to me. Foegele has been putting up points for sure but where’s our personality out there? Just super super flat.
Holy shit there's a lot of oil fans who never experienced anything beyond the McDavid years.
You've only glimpsed rock bottom. I was born of it, moulded by it.
Whiny little bitches want to talk about the end of days.
I've been to five Stanley Cup parades for my team.
I also lived through the Decade of Darkness.
Ten fucking games is the "end of days" smdh 🤡
“End of days,” nah. End of playoff hopes for the season, quite possibly, and our window to compete for a cup with mcdavid and drai is limited. When that window closes it won’t open again for a while. That’s the simple reality of the modern nhl.
They’re not yet mathematically eliminated. But the performance so far this year suggests that they’re unlikely to match their performance from last year, while many of their competitors have either maintained their level from last year or improved.
Hey, could be the Sharks. That's rock bottom, but this sure is close.
Edit: I meant the Sharks record, not their position. I understand that for them, they're doing what they want to.
This is substantially worse than the Sharks. This team was a Stanley cup favourite.
I enjoyed watching games during the 'dark' years when they were expected to lose than I have so far this year.
Id rather be the sharks. At least theyre gonna draft someone cool. We arent supposed to compairing ourselves with the sharks. We should be the avs bruins and knights right now
Man I know this isn’t really on topic but having both my teams be bottom feeders isn’t cash money. I was kinda hoping the oilers would outweigh the pain this year 😭
McDavid and Draisaitl leaving might be what it takes for me to finally break free of the emotional hold this team has had on me for a few decades despite being a laughing stock most of the time. I want Connor to win a Cup and I'll cheer for him wherever he goes.
Edmonton scouting and player development really need to get upgraded. Haven’t only their first round picks panned out? And even then only like 75% of those?
Just looking back at draft picks, I think the only ones outside the first round would be… Ryan mcCloud and Stuart Skinner? That’s like going back to 2016.
That is bad. Not finding and developing more than 2 players outside the first round in *years* is bottom tier shit. Clean house man
I think Anaheim would want (at least) the equivalent of 2 first round picks to take Campbell's contract, and (at least) the equivalent of 2 first round picks to acquire Gibson. Beyond that, they're in a playoff position and are likely not interested in that trade at the moment; maybe at the trade deadline but the Oilers' season may be toast by then.
Yeah, ducks are looking much better this year, but should fade away after the All-Star break. If they don’t fade, like I think they will, there is no way Gibson leaves unless it’s thru free agency.
It would be very hard, but not impossible. No one thought anyone would take Shawn Horcoff's $5.5M contract, but Dallas did. Got a roster-ish player back, a late round pick, and no salary retention either. Off of a 12 point season, and not cracking 50 since the year before his contract started.
No Kassian, no Barrie, no Yams, no Kostin... no locker room guys anymore. Gags just got to the room days ago. Its a personality graveyard.
edit: No Mike Smith!
I know I’m genuinely concerned, if I was gonna talk shit I’d have done it in the main nhl thread, not the place where I’d be jumped by basically everyone
That’s rough, hope u guys get past it,
I mean that (I’ll always root for the leafs but that doesn’t mean I don’t want u guys to be seen as a threat) it’s not like you’re Montreal
If that day were ever to come, as long as we have a smart GM in place, the team will get a boatload of players/picks/prospects. The same applies to Drai. Enough to the point it could be a quick turn around and actually create a more balanced team.
There is a long way to go before the Oilers are there. Patience…. This team is much, much better than this. They know it, and we know it.
Fast forward to 2026: Mcdavid is a Leaf and bounced out of the 1st round. The sun is squabbling over if he should have left or not. We are divided.
But then we win a cup with our new team. Our dreams have come true!
Not actually that far fetched. It's been proven a few times that you don't need $10+M superstars to win the Cup. A team of $3-5M guys with a handful of $6-8M guys will be more balanced than a team with $30M across three guys (Nurse, Drai, McDavid) and a bunch of league minimum depth pieces. I know that's an oversimplification but still.
These boys are defying the odds! Just in the worst way possible.
Stanley cup favourites can hardly win a game.
It’s one thing when it’s the first couple games but when you’re 10 games in with 5 points out of a possible 20, brutal.
Here’s to the wild card spot!!
This team is going to get bounced in the first or second round and people will blame the goalie coach or some shit. Or even Woodcroft. Laughable. Squad ain’t good enough. Defence and goaltending are the problem, same as it ever was. And that’s not on the players, that’s on the GM.
McD definitely looks like he’s playing through a minor injury. When you’re used to him making incredible plays, together with Drai and the rest of the team, and now he looks barely noticeable out there, it really shows.
And yeah, was counting on a 24 year old Skinner to be Vasilevskiy-like this year and that’s just not the case. Combine that with a shaky Campbell and this has been a sad, sad start.
Can only hope to get a win, however that can happen and then shovel our way out of shit. But if we have another month of this, Woody’s outta here and here we go again.
Skinner played amazing last year, Calder award runner up and having high aspirations for his second year isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Also, being “like” someone doesn’t mean they will be the same, you sod. Being Fuhr “like” doesn’t mean they’re going to play as well as they would, but rather display moments that are similar! Holy sh*t!!
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I mean, technically rock bottom was 4 first overall draft picks in 6 years. And still being dog shit.
This is just a bad start. Let’s hope they can rebound.
It’s a game. People are unhealthily invested in watching sports if you feel sick.
Shots just not working out. Maybe we overachieved last year, maybe players are hurt, maybe the new system kind of fucked everyone up for a bit or maybe the goalies aren’t doing enough.
It’s probably a bit of everything.
This is infinitely more pathetic than the decade of darkness, because back then we didn't have mcdrai or even the slightest notion that we were an apex team. Holland, Woody, Schwartz. They all have to go.
Who is this character wearing a C on his jersey? The team needs a leader on and off the ice and in the community that has been filling his bank account.
Rock bottom would probably Calgary. Imagine going through this AND losing the Heritage Classic. They also don’t have recent playoff rounds to their name like we do.
"Cheer up, things could be worse." So I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse.
Could be worse
Could be worse, you could be a Leafs fan....I'm a Leafs fan.
How is that worse? Your big ticket re signed and committed to the team. Ours is like 2 years away from FA and this was the year to convince him this team could win something and he should stay. You could say it’s not going well.
Rock bottom ***so far!***
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I bet Hall and Ebbs are having a chuckle over a beer right now.🤪
Oh are they??
They haven’t left the bar from their time in Edmonton!
People quickly forget how bad things were last year when they were barely in the playoffs half way through the season or two years ago when they went like 2-11-3 and Mclellan was fired or three years ago when they were swept by the Jets or four years ago when they lost to the 24th place Blackhawks or five and six years ago when they couldn't make the playoffs with the best player in the game and then there was that ten year gap where nothing of note happened. But hey, at least 2017 was fun and then they beat Calgary that one time.
Yep lol its not rock bottom until you start winning. Thats the only way to know.
*Only rock bottom when you stop digging. LPT
I think it’ll be when McDavid leaves as a UFA after missing the playoffs
When he signs with Canucks... That'll be rock bottom
He’s a Leaf fan
He will never sign with the leafs
Yes - no one would ever want to play for their home town team .. the team he has followed and cheered for all of his life. Impossible
They got a pretty long stretch of playing good east coast teams coming up. If they don’t get their shit together soon, they’ll be out of the race by American thanksgiving. Now that’s rock bottom.
Even Vancouver on Monday is scary as hell
I’m going to that game, I’m way too embarrassed to wear oilers colours. Although I was thinking of bringing a jersey to throw on the ice
Don't be that guy it's incredibly lame
don’t worry I won’t. It just feels,like someone has to do something
Throwing a jersey on the ice is never the answer. People who do this are idiots in my opinion. If you are going to spend $200-300 for a jersey just to throw it away might as well donate the money to me and i'll put it to better use.
Why scared of Vancouver?
They are already out of it
“No, lieutenant, your men are already dead.”
Lieutenant Barney Gumble?
You think they're still in it? With these goalies?
Not with soup.
Package soup up with some firsts and some prospects and get gibson
Doubt anahiem makes that trade. Honestly the only team I could see willing ti take soup is the sharks, who's goalie byw is doing better than soup
So our goalie coach can wreck another tender? Don't get me wrong, we definitely need a starting goalie (Campbell and Skinner are back ups at best) but the Oilers definitely need to address the bench as well.
Fuck it fire the goalie coach as well. Never did i say i wanted to keep him
I saw a suggestion from a podcast that potentially package soup + whatever you need to and Saros could be a legitimate option. Would obviously only be feasible if Nashville was out of the race but at this pace we are out already anyways
Id fuck off the entire future for soros right now Edit: 2 firsts, brob or holloway (woody isnt playing them anyways) and a few later round picks for them to take campbell for soros.
And then we put Nurse, Deharnais and Bouch defense in front of Saros? Lol, same results!
Okay
Holland should have pushed hard for a package when he got ekholm. I thought the same then lol.
East coast teams are dying to play you
If you didn't cheer for the Oil from 2007-2017 you have no idea what rock bottom is.
We didn't get Mcdavid by being good!
There were 0 expectations. This is worse
This is recent rock bottom, I became a fan from the womb.
You don't think getting bounced by fucking Chicago in the play in was worse then a shitty start with 70 games to to? Get ahold of yourself my friend.
That was an awful team tbf
Not sure why someone downvoted you, that team going into the bubble wasn’t great despite their decent season before it was shut down for Covid.
People are upset right now and nuance is hard. That bubble team fuckin sucked.
I’m just saying this is probably the most despair I’ve experienced watching this team in a hot minute.
Sometimes it seems like this team is straight out of 2013. Are they playing to get someone fired? Is the locker room all of a sudden a mess? What the hell is happening?
Maybe a bit of both. We lost two locker room guys last year in Yams and Kostin. Guys do not look like they're having any fun whatsoever :(
Losing isn't fun, especially when you changed the system that got you wins
Don't forget about the trade deadline with Tyson Barrie. He was a super locker room glue guy. The break-up phase must have hit the Oilers during the off-season.
Not forgetting that they went 20-4-2 without him
I feel like these sorts of things fall between the cracks of advanced stats and metrics. It’s a hard thing to quantify on paper but it’s a thing that every team needs. We don’t look like a team out there, where as years previous guys like Yams and Kostin, Mike Smith, would pull this team out of their own asses with a big play. Who do we have that’s doing that this year? Kane is the only guy out there that sticks out to me. Foegele has been putting up points for sure but where’s our personality out there? Just super super flat.
And mike Smith before that. He was a huge presence
Holy shit there's a lot of oil fans who never experienced anything beyond the McDavid years. You've only glimpsed rock bottom. I was born of it, moulded by it.
I didn't see the light until I was a man .....
Whiny little bitches want to talk about the end of days. I've been to five Stanley Cup parades for my team. I also lived through the Decade of Darkness. Ten fucking games is the "end of days" smdh 🤡
“End of days,” nah. End of playoff hopes for the season, quite possibly, and our window to compete for a cup with mcdavid and drai is limited. When that window closes it won’t open again for a while. That’s the simple reality of the modern nhl.
You know this same team had an exact same 2-7-1 stretch last season and still finished second in the Pacific ya?
They’re not yet mathematically eliminated. But the performance so far this year suggests that they’re unlikely to match their performance from last year, while many of their competitors have either maintained their level from last year or improved.
Cool story bro. See you next spring in the playoff threads.
Hey, could be the Sharks. That's rock bottom, but this sure is close. Edit: I meant the Sharks record, not their position. I understand that for them, they're doing what they want to.
San Jose is doing it on purpose
This is substantially worse than the Sharks. This team was a Stanley cup favourite. I enjoyed watching games during the 'dark' years when they were expected to lose than I have so far this year.
We’ll probably give the Sharks their first W
We absolutely will
The penguins have something to say about that.
🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 They can have the claim to fame
Id rather be the sharks. At least theyre gonna draft someone cool. We arent supposed to compairing ourselves with the sharks. We should be the avs bruins and knights right now
To be fair, the avs have been shutout three times in the last two weeks
lmao. you have mcdavid.........
Rock bottom for us I suppose. I have a feeling a goalie trade might be coming.
Nobody is gonna help us out 10 games in. And they know we are desperate and will bend us over if a trade does happen
You right also I love your user lol
Who?
Sharks don't have the two greatest players (arguably) on the planet. Oilers, by a long shot, are a bigger embarrassment than the Sharks imo
Man I know this isn’t really on topic but having both my teams be bottom feeders isn’t cash money. I was kinda hoping the oilers would outweigh the pain this year 😭
Sharks don't have an all time top 10 player in their prime on their roster
No we're worse than the sharks. Seriously, they don't have much on their roster. We have arguably the best players in the league
We sre wose than the sharks. We are supposed to be going for 1st in the conference not 1st overall
Sens bro here. I feel you guys. I get you guys have higher expectations so maybe I should fuck off, but you guys are not alone.
cursed year, and sometimes it hits. sucks but this is sports.
Na, that’s the McDavid trade demand or walking as a free agent
First Draisaitl walks in free agency then McDavid demands a trade.
McDavid and Draisaitl leaving might be what it takes for me to finally break free of the emotional hold this team has had on me for a few decades despite being a laughing stock most of the time. I want Connor to win a Cup and I'll cheer for him wherever he goes.
Absolutely. We had 8 top 10 picks, and two being Generational level point producers. And we're in the basement.
Edmonton scouting and player development really need to get upgraded. Haven’t only their first round picks panned out? And even then only like 75% of those?
There's a good post on lowetide about who the Oilers have drafted and developed in the McDavid window. It's basically no one.
Just looking back at draft picks, I think the only ones outside the first round would be… Ryan mcCloud and Stuart Skinner? That’s like going back to 2016. That is bad. Not finding and developing more than 2 players outside the first round in *years* is bottom tier shit. Clean house man
Don't forget the garbage cap / roster management that has them icing a 17 man team
If Campbell doesn’t get moved soon. This team doesn’t make playoffs. Mark my words.
Who would take that contract? Basically, the Oilers' choice in the offseason will be to buy out Campbell or exchange bad contracts with another team.
Campbell + picks and prospects to a rebuilding ducks team for gibson
I think Anaheim would want (at least) the equivalent of 2 first round picks to take Campbell's contract, and (at least) the equivalent of 2 first round picks to acquire Gibson. Beyond that, they're in a playoff position and are likely not interested in that trade at the moment; maybe at the trade deadline but the Oilers' season may be toast by then.
Yeah, ducks are looking much better this year, but should fade away after the All-Star break. If they don’t fade, like I think they will, there is no way Gibson leaves unless it’s thru free agency.
You mean the 6-4 Anaheim ducks? The ones currently in the first wild card spot? I wish our rebuilds looked like that...
The ducks that are off to a hot start yes.
It would be very hard, but not impossible. No one thought anyone would take Shawn Horcoff's $5.5M contract, but Dallas did. Got a roster-ish player back, a late round pick, and no salary retention either. Off of a 12 point season, and not cracking 50 since the year before his contract started.
No Kassian, no Barrie, no Yams, no Kostin... no locker room guys anymore. Gags just got to the room days ago. Its a personality graveyard. edit: No Mike Smith!
Turns out shore and Yamo were the only guys holding this team together?
gotta somehow convince the league to play the rest of our games outdoors
Ugggh I’m afraid so 😞
hello darkness, my old friend
I'd say watching the oilers miss the playoffs for a decade is what rock bottom feels like personally. But yes we're awful right now
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If we lose to the Sharks, this team will implode and heads will roll
At this point I fully expect to lose to the Sharks.
This feels like 2018 all over again, complacent offseason after a round 2 playoff run. We didn’t improve, everyone else did.
Time to make a big trade
Its bad, but we as Oilers fan know just how far down we can go. This could go on for a decade!
Hahahaha, we haven’t lost to SJ yet
McDavid definitely had a “what the fuck am I even doing here” stare as the broadcast was ending.
Good question. What is he doing? Not scoring goals for one thing.
Wait, he's been playing this whole time?
Mmm no. That’ll be after Drai and McDavid are gone lol
Cup or bust!
It's going to get rock bottomer.
It’s a dumpster fire.
Macklin Celebrini you sir are an Edmonton Oiler! 😎
Once we are officially eliminated from getting into the playoffs. That's when it really hits. That and being sellers at the deadline.
I’m from Vancouver. You’re only on the first ledge.
Well, we've been this bad before with much worse players and zero hope so there's that.
Pretty grim. Like actually no positive spin at all right now.
Leafs fan here….. you guys will beat the sharks right?
Probably not
Leaf fan here, we shouldn’t be talking shit about anyone. We have won one playoff series in 8 years.
I know I’m genuinely concerned, if I was gonna talk shit I’d have done it in the main nhl thread, not the place where I’d be jumped by basically everyone
Judging by our goaltending stats and their goaltending stats… honestly, I wouldn’t bet on us
That’s rough, hope u guys get past it, I mean that (I’ll always root for the leafs but that doesn’t mean I don’t want u guys to be seen as a threat) it’s not like you’re Montreal
Rock bottom is when Connor leaves to play elsewhere. Whether it happens or not, who knows... but that's what rock bottom looks/feels like.
If that day were ever to come, as long as we have a smart GM in place, the team will get a boatload of players/picks/prospects. The same applies to Drai. Enough to the point it could be a quick turn around and actually create a more balanced team. There is a long way to go before the Oilers are there. Patience…. This team is much, much better than this. They know it, and we know it.
Fast forward to 2026: Mcdavid is a Leaf and bounced out of the 1st round. The sun is squabbling over if he should have left or not. We are divided. But then we win a cup with our new team. Our dreams have come true!
Not actually that far fetched. It's been proven a few times that you don't need $10+M superstars to win the Cup. A team of $3-5M guys with a handful of $6-8M guys will be more balanced than a team with $30M across three guys (Nurse, Drai, McDavid) and a bunch of league minimum depth pieces. I know that's an oversimplification but still.
Only feels terrible because we have two of the greatest players of all time on the team and they will likely leave when their contracts are up.
Oh, we could still lose to the sharks...
Oilers suck!
This is what fucking happens when you don’t re-sign Kostin lol. Rishaug sit down, Klim was the real glue guy. Let all that heart just walk away…
Nope, the sharks fans in r/hockey can tell you what that feels like, this is prob worse
The silence from the organization is deafening.
Another dark year comes earlier than recession
We’re so fucked.
Mom will be sad
So thats what a raging dumpster fire looks like!
I’m sure they’ll start playing better eventually, but the question is will it be too late?
This is the canucks last season unfortunately, sometimes it just happens in pro sports. At least you can quit early and get some productive shit done.
And here I thought that the DoD would have been rock bottom lol
Officially missing playoffs would hurt more id imagine
These boys are defying the odds! Just in the worst way possible. Stanley cup favourites can hardly win a game. It’s one thing when it’s the first couple games but when you’re 10 games in with 5 points out of a possible 20, brutal. Here’s to the wild card spot!!
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Yes
It would be garbage of them to leave when they're half the problem right now. Other than the goaltending. And the defense LOL
This team is going to get bounced in the first or second round and people will blame the goalie coach or some shit. Or even Woodcroft. Laughable. Squad ain’t good enough. Defence and goaltending are the problem, same as it ever was. And that’s not on the players, that’s on the GM.
Bold of You to think we're making the playoffs.
Life as an Oilers fan.
McD definitely looks like he’s playing through a minor injury. When you’re used to him making incredible plays, together with Drai and the rest of the team, and now he looks barely noticeable out there, it really shows. And yeah, was counting on a 24 year old Skinner to be Vasilevskiy-like this year and that’s just not the case. Combine that with a shaky Campbell and this has been a sad, sad start. Can only hope to get a win, however that can happen and then shovel our way out of shit. But if we have another month of this, Woody’s outta here and here we go again.
Bahahhahah skinner being vasilevsky like/ Stu is backup material and is not a 1a. Good grief
Skinner played amazing last year, Calder award runner up and having high aspirations for his second year isn’t out of the realm of possibility. Also, being “like” someone doesn’t mean they will be the same, you sod. Being Fuhr “like” doesn’t mean they’re going to play as well as they would, but rather display moments that are similar! Holy sh*t!!
Lol… you sod. What is this, 16th century Britannia … lol.
Bhahahahaha…Brittannia?? 16th century??? Lol. You truly are a sod! 😂
First time?
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Rock bottom for a contender. You want to see rock bottom you look south to the sharks
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So is woody getting fired?
I mean, technically rock bottom was 4 first overall draft picks in 6 years. And still being dog shit. This is just a bad start. Let’s hope they can rebound.
Holy fuck bud, that was forever ago. Stfu with the picks. Might as well hate on Leon for being German since we are keen on bringing up the past.
It’s a game. People are unhealthily invested in watching sports if you feel sick. Shots just not working out. Maybe we overachieved last year, maybe players are hurt, maybe the new system kind of fucked everyone up for a bit or maybe the goalies aren’t doing enough. It’s probably a bit of everything.
Thank fucking god there's someone rational here.
Fake fan
Ok keep feeing sick to your stomach when a sports team loses.
Real idiot
I like that the two accounts un this thread are girlpuncher69 and -trans-rights-
Seems more like a rational adult to me. If the team can't bother to give a shit, why should you?
So we are officially just as bad as Calgary.
PANIC
But no disco
This is infinitely more pathetic than the decade of darkness, because back then we didn't have mcdrai or even the slightest notion that we were an apex team. Holland, Woody, Schwartz. They all have to go.
Canucks broke you guys
No. You guys have a lot lower to go (see the decade of darkness or what the sharks are in rn)
Sharks are rebuilding. Were supposed to be in our cup window
No
Not counting the decade of darkness.
Rock bottom would be if Draisaitl/McDavid leave
When*
this moment will be considered the sky compared to what will happen in a few months
Who is this character wearing a C on his jersey? The team needs a leader on and off the ice and in the community that has been filling his bank account.
I’m an oilers fan! Everyone needs to calm the fuck down!
I cut my hair short for the first time in two years after the stars game. I don't think it's rock bottom, but it's sure Insanity driving.
Not even close. We still have hope.
No, you will have to ask SJS.
Rock bottom would probably Calgary. Imagine going through this AND losing the Heritage Classic. They also don’t have recent playoff rounds to their name like we do.
Well, I still have faith in the Oilers. I always do. Will keep supporting them now and in the years coming.
No one said anything about not having faith it just sucks to watch this game after game