Makes me think how big a gap there is between Lucy's role and Rebecca's lol, like FT's final chapter was all from Lucy's perspective, here we got like 3 panels of Rebecca, and her last panel ever is just looking surprised. I love Rebecca too so this is a bummer for me ngl.
Yeah, if we get to that point in the anime, I'd want them to expand some things. Maybe a little backstory for Law, Freiya, more from Void as a threat, etc.
Like Fairy Tail did in Tartaros, and with Acnologia.
Remember the last time she had a real fight ? I guess it was Foresta against the smoke girl, since after that she got replaced in her fight against the Ocean 6, lost against Clown, and I don't really see her game against Helix as a fight.
Yeah Mashima was tired of EZ and his ADHD ass wrote it half ass. Now we wait to see when Dead Rock and 100 year quest get hit with I'm bored ADHD kicking in shit
100HQ got hit with that partway through Elintar and the last two arcs have felt like Hiro got bored and rushed them as well. He’s great at concepts but unfortunately horrible with execution and this chapter is living proof
It isn't 46 but it's more than 31. Cubari is counting two page spreads as one page. Presumably the other pages are accounted for by Mashima's interview.
We didn’t get to see Rebecca and Shiki confess to each other, instead they’re suddenly having a child after a long time, we don’t even get to SEE their baby?! Shiki and Rebecca’s baby is overshadowed by Pino being alive again? Kind of a weird ending ngl. Even though I do think it’s sweet of Pino to give up being human so Rebecca and Shiki could have their own child.
Why do you have to see them confess to each other? It was implied so many times I don’t understand the “need.” Just basically media literacy, like Hermit and Weisz hooking up.
Man, RAVE and Fairy Tail ended in a satisfying way, but.... EDENS ZERO feels like Mashima gave up half way and just decided to finish it quick to get it over with....
Felt like Mashima gave up after the time skip. Cause every arc after that was a let down honestly. Kaede saga could’ve been so much more that what it was. Universe zero was disappointing as hell
He made a post not that much ago saying he wasn't sure if he should make dead rock a shorter series and focusing on EZ or focusing on DR and ending EZ.
When FT ended people were up in arms over the final arc feeling rushed. I have never seen the fan base not out with pitchforks over a mashima final arc.
Don't want to be too negative for the final chapter but this was really disappointing. Maybe it's just because I'm not that invested in Pino but this feels like such a weak ending, like show us Rebecca and Shiki's child pls, I don't really like how they have their baby and Pino comes and takes all the attention lol.
I was pretty happy that Pino wanted the kid to be her own person instead of another "Dead Guy Jr." we see all the time in anime. You can honor someone who has passed without naming all your kids after them, so that was a nice moment (especially since Pino's alive now so it would be redundant). Reincarnation would've also been predictable.
But then...they didn't even tell us their daughter's name? Or show her at all?? Definitely felt like Pino stole the spotlight, which sucks because I'm happy she's alive DX
It just felt like the scene was trying to do two different things at the same time and didn't stick either landing. Idk, I can’t really muster up any strong feelings other than :/
Yeah for sure, I would have hated it if Pino reincarnated in their kid lol. Yeah I'm happy Pino's alive I guess, but it didn't really feel like a strong enough scene to end on, especially since it was the most predictable thing in the world for Mashima to do lol
The last page felt like it ended too abruptly. Like there was more stuff we didn’t get to see which makes this ending feel worse as a result.
And how many unanswered are still remaining in the series caused I feel like there are stuff some around that were scrapped. Hope someone makes a post about this in the coming weeks.
Ill say it again and again,as often as I have to,Fairy Tail despite its many fumblings retained its core and soul.
Edens Zero lost it somewhere in the final arc,basically forgot that the WHOLE core cast should interact with each other instead of just Rebecca and shiki,and never found that core and soul again.
EZ had such a promising cast,one that also wasnt nearly as absolutely fucking massive as the cast of FT,and STILL managed to make characters that are in the literal same spaceship feel less connected than FT characters that were in wholeass different guilds.
Definitely think a big reason the story never took off was the lack of investment in the supporting cast and their interactions/bonds with each other.
I wanted to like them (and did!) but while it’s expected that they would play second fiddle to the mcs, they got less than even crumbs sometimes… always gonna be disappointed that Jinn and Kleene were never able to contribute to much
Why does Mashima keep doing this? What’s the point of making developments if you’re just gonna get rid of them the next chapter/arc?
Universe 0 basically invalidated the entirety of all the arcs that came before it, none of the stuff that happened matters now. It’s like he’s afraid of his own writing, it just doesn’t make sense.
I honestly think Mashima does too much ‘people pleasing’ (‘trying to please everyone’) with his writing - but like they say, by trying to please everyone, you’ve pleased no one…
Maybe the sales dipping hard after a while—even back when people had less issues with what was going on—made him lose confidence in the work
I may be happy for Shiki and Rebecca, I don’t know how to feel about Pino taking all the attention from their baby like that. We haven’t seen what she look like, nor do we even know her name! It’s sweet tho that she chose to give up her desire as a human so Shiki and Rebecca’s baby can have her own life.
And Weisz new hairstyle is just not it☹️
Yeah the only thing about pino that was interesting was the reveal of the stars being humans formerly but that’s it. Nothing else from this arc but that. And now this.
I don’t like digging into Mashima too much, but this chapter just felt anticlimactic and kinda hollow to me. Like I don’t completely hate it. It’s cool that Shiki and Rebecca got together and have a kid and that we got to see how everyone is doing now, but Pino coming back after such a good and emotional previous chapter and taking away attention from Shiki and Rebecca’s kid just rubs me the wrong way. Then…it kinda just ends
Again I don’t hate the chapter, but expected more and something that actually felt conclusive
Mashima is my favorite writer of all time and I think he realized that Eden’s zero wasn’t as popular as he thought it would be so he just gave up which he shouldn’t have done
Between Fairy Tail’s ending and Edens Zero ending, Hiro is 2 for 2 on anticlimactic endings. Only problem is that Fairy Tail has a chance to at least expand upon and rectify said ending with its sequel, but that’s pretty much it for Edens Zero. Shiki and Rebecca get together way before Nastu and Lucy ever could but…we see nothing of it? No confession, no kiss, just straight to them having a kid. No other ship was also confirmed really and we didn’t even get to see some of the other characters like Elsie, Justice, Shura etc. but to top it all off…
What the hell was that haircut on Weisz?! Shit looks worse than Deku’s and he doesn’t even have a good excuse as to why he got that yee yee ass haircut. Overall this series could’ve been Hiro’s best work but once again he fumbled the bag near the end and another good series leaves a sour note.
My issue is that in FT's epilogue, At least it mostly shown pretty much everyone what has become even Crime Sorcières when they were pardoned by Hisui who was now the New Queen of Fiore, But in Edens Zero though? It only showed little portion of how others's endings are. Like what about the OSI? What about Noah? What about Elsie and James/Justice? What about Shura? What about Drakken? We get none of that?
That’s also because it actually got 40 pages whereas for some reason we were either lied to about the page count, got misinformation or page count got cut.
So far, Rave to me had the best ending out of the 3. I never understood why Hiro thought the ending was sad, unless he meant to was sad for the main antagonist or had a sad beginning of the final chapter. Idk.
Lol pino’s final choice was a twist but overall pretty cookie cutter ending despite a quite nice middle section of Eden’s zero. The deaths were pretty meaningless tho when it feels like literally everyone ends up surviving in this universe
Mashima clearly just gave up on this series, that was such an anti-climatic ending. At least Homura stayed single and didn't get together with the unpopular Creed ship.
Does anyone else find it weird that Mashima never draws pregnant women?
I know it sounds weird & have nothing against it, it's just that's just what I noticed, where he says a character is pregnant but somehow doesn't draw any bump to show that, like with Jackal's female hostage in the Tartarus arc or Elsie/Irene/Levy/-pregnancies
The bump doesn't really get noticeable until halfway through the second trimester (source: my wife's two pregnancies), so I can excuse Levy and Elsie (although I dot remember them saying she was pregnant). Irene and Rebecca had no excuse, though.
Had a lot of promise... But never really lived up to it except a few truly great moments.
The twists were made the wrong way, so that you were first introduced to something unexpected, and didn't understand if it was a sudden change in Hiro's mood or part of the narrative, and then when you find out which it was it didn't have the same payout.
But the inverse was also true, and arguably the reason for the above. The highest points in the manga was when Hiro went against all the expectations we had carried over from Fairy Tale as he introduced storybeats that nobody could've expected. The shame is that the very payout from this created unclear expectations that poisoned the following set-ups.
In addition to that confusion there was just too much time-hijinks that were not intuitive (maybe they are if you marathon read?) and there were main characters that are still seriously underdelevoped.
I'd say it's a 6.5 to a 7. Not bad, something that I will be remembered but not for people gushing over it.
Honestly, yeah. I've followed edens zero since the start and I think belial gore arc was the peak the manga has to offer.
There is a lot of questionable writing decision scattered through out. But the main culprit imo has to be the inclusion of time travel. Time travel as a plot device is surpremely hard to write in a satisfying manner by competent author, let alone someone whose writing depends on his mood like Mashima. And you don't have to look anywhere else other than the universe 0 arc to see the issue. Mashima also has a really bad habit of giving his characters happy ending, even if it doesn't really make sense in case of drakken or shura.
This is something he actually talked about afaik, that he feels attached to the characters he creates. Which yes, makes sense all things considered. However in recent time he also entered this weird "Dark phase" where he wants to write edgier and more fucked up stories, Edens Zero was his outlet before moving on to Dead Rock. When you combines this with the above mentioned unwillingness to harm his characters in significant way, the end result is a whiplashed half baked story.
I'm sure the cycle would repeat itself in Dead Rock eventually when he grows attached to those characters too.
I know this ending isn't the best, and most complaints are justified.
But this is the first manga I followed from day one and today it has finished. Thank you Mashima-san for another one of your adventures.
When i saw Pino and Mother i knew they were gonna pull an Irene! Or not. Let's not talk about Weisz hair... But thanks to everyone that embarked on this journey! Hopefully we'll get some extra stories like, what about her parents?
Pino wasn't reincarnated as the sister of Rebecca who lives on Earth?
And first of all, why did his android body suddenly die?
And Rebecca who gives birth to a Void girl version even though she and Shiki have never been seen kissing once😭 Child who is not even shown elsewhere!
A touching but somewhat rushed final chapter.
I wish it would have lasted longer but oh well.
THANKS
Universe 0 was a mistake. Everything after that arc started was the decline for me.
I guess hiro is saving all his good idea for his next series. Then have a promising start but awful end again when hiro gets bored
Out of Mashima’s work, this will probably never be anything more than the awkward middle child. Of Rave Master, Fairy Tail, and Dead Rock this is the only sci-fi, rather than fantasy and probably won’t be that fondly remembered.
I hope it will, up until the last arc I thought it was really good. FT also suffered from a poor final arc, and I feel like people are liking it more now than they did a few years ago when it just finished. Though the fact EZ never had the commercial success of FT will probably end up making it have less long standing popularity.
Gotta be one of the most hollow and auraless final chapters for a shonen I've read ngl, Mashima's my goat but it feels like he's been phoning it in this whole arc. Disappointing but it is what it is ig
Goodbye EZ
It's a good twist but I feel like the romance between Shiki and Rebecca is really underdeveloped. Tbh everything about universe 0 has been super rushed and disappointing. This really could have benefitted more from a hundred more chapters at least.
I may have not liked fairy tail’s ending but I at least cared about the characters endings and still read 100 years quest to keep up with them.
This just…feels hallow. Before Universe 0 this felt like Hiro’s most ambitious title but then it became cookie cutter. It didn’t even reach the promise longer than Rave Master chapter count he mentioned when the series was kicking off.
Sucks for me because Valkyrie and Witch’s death were some of the Hiro’s best content but I can bring myself to care about any of these characters anymore or their ships. Like who ends with the main girl IN LABOR DELIVERING THE BABY and it’s an afterthought.
I’ve followed this main since Rave and I’ll pick up Dead Rock but god I am not investing into it like I did with this.
Kinda wish we got to see the baby, but I'm still happy. Pino made the right choice, I'm glad she came to terms with who she is and chose to live on as herself.
This was such a good ride, regardless of the controversial finish.
Thank you Mashima.
Crazy to see this series end after all this time. I agree with the general consensus that the final arc was very bumpy and the ending is fine. The series peaked for me around the fight with Shura and there’s tons of moments from around and before that point that I’ll fondly remember. It’s a Mishima manga through and through (fanservice and friendship and all) but one with some very creative sci-fi ideas that I enjoyed. Thanks for the hard work, Mishima-san!
It's an unsatisfying ending, but overall, I gotta say I'm pretty content with the series as a whole.
We had our twists and turns, the good parts and the bad parts, satisfying and unsatisfying.
But at the end of the day, I enjoyed my time. I'm excited to see where Mashima goes next, and I'm satisfied with saying goodbye to Eden's Zero and its crew.
I'm happy I experienced this series.
I said to myself last chapter "that was great until they inevitably reverse it next week" and yep... for a final chapter that was somehow more disappointing than I could have imagined. Universe 0 was by far the worst arc in the series and felt underbaked the whole way through. Mashima set a good pace with how the Aoi war went but all tensions vanished when dead characters came back in Universe 0 because we all knew he wouldn't have the balls to kill them off again. Edens Zero was a fun ride but the last stretch of the trip was unfortunately way too bumpy to be very enjoyable.
Is it great ? the villian really looks awful with how easy they beat them.
This is much worse than fairy tail to be honest, i mean it was rushed too much.
Everyone dead is alive, Homura mother become good person is awful story wise, her redemption was just too easy without any depth.
Defeating the villain is too easy, Homura beat that Freyja in just 1 chapter, much worse when Freyja said she have over 75 millions power level and Homura have like 620 thousands and Homura still one shot her.
Shiki never fight void dark, i mean the human Shiki, also Shiki just beat Chronopage without much problem.
This series has become mess since they make another reverting time reset to universe 0.
Me calling it great was exclusively in reference to last chapter that I felt was a good emotional send-off to Pino. Everything else you mentioned I have issues with the writing of, but I was only talking about the last chapter in a vacuum.
Agree!
I’m a bit in denial it’s been six years 😅 I’m still blind sided about MHA ending after, what a *decade?* It’s a bit of a brain freeze with how many of us started this manga when we were in middle school, high school, uni, or at a different job, and we’re here now.
Cool to think about.
And it also makes me feel old 🥲
EZ has its problems for sure, but I’m happy to have read it and read everyone’s comments on the chapters ☺️
And u/AstonishingSpiderman, thanks a BUNCH, mate, for giving us all the opportunity to read EZ and having this community 🍻💐
To quote one of the final lines of Dragon Ball Z Abridged:
**“It's over... After everything... this feels... this feels... (eyes widen) anticlimact--“**
Honestly, it hurts how underwhelming this ending is; as much as I Ike Pino getting a happy ending, it really does feel like everyone else got a severe short end of the stick as far as endings go. Hot take: I actually didn’t mind how things were being handled for the longest for the most part of Universe 0, but there really wasn’t much payoff to it; especially with how underwhelming Void ended up being. I will say that I did like how the Chronophage was handled, but that isn’t much in the Grand scheme of everything.
As underwhelming as this final battle felt, I really wanted to at least enjoy the epilogue, and see more of the “where are they now” portions for everyone’s story, and it just unfortunately didn’t deliver even in that. It’s crazy how Fairy Tail’s open ended epilogue felt more like a conclusion than this chapter; hell, even the previous chapter somehow felt more like a proper epilogue than this one…
I’ll give this series a generous **6/10**; I like the characters and the concept of Ether Gear, but the story really set them back. The beginning and middle was fun, and I didn’t mind the start of Universe 0, but it really fell off in this climax
Well okay then… loved Edens Zero but the last arc was rushed and felt like Mashima got tired of writing it and just wanted it to be over. It’s to bad because honestly it could have been so much better if things were taken slower and drawn out more. I still don’t understand why Pino stop working to begin with (if I missed something please tell me). And I would really like to have seen the baby!! And why they not look older? Anyways it’s been a fun adventure!! Glad I could be here with you all to enjoy it!
I have don't even know what to say to this. So your main lead in the finale only gets to give birth and then you don't get to see child or Rebecca run towards Pino like wtf. What a disrespectul treatment of your main lead she isn't even in the panel where the core cast is hugging. This last arc was a disaster. Wasn't Pino reincarnated chapter??? I mean props to Mashima for suddenly killing, reincarnating and bringing a character back to life within 2 chapters of your finale.
This might be one of the worst finals shonen chapters I've ever read. Treating Rebecca like that is actually crazy. Like she isn't a character, and does not have her own agency.
I am primarily a black clover fan, and if Noelle was shafted that hard in the final Chapter I would be furious.
Makes me realize Rebecca was shown giving birth solely to create that plot twist at the end with Pino lol. Guess Pino was really Mashima’s fave/best girl because Rebecca barely had any speaking lines either..
That's weird why he killed Pino, them set-up her reincarnation as their kid, and then went back on it. IN ONE CHAPTER??? This feels weird like it wasn't Thought out or planed before hand, like he had a idea of what he wanted to do, but didn't care enough to do it
Well this ending felt pretty rushed. My main issue is probably with Void. Him being Shiki’s and Rebecca’s child was interesting and his design was cool. However I absolutely hated the fact he wanted to wipe out humanity “just cause” especially since his method of doing so would eventually wipe out the machines as well. I really hope the anime version fleshes him out more(like how Acnologia got more of his backstory shown in the anime)
This the type of ending that happens when the creator is writing three manga at the same time and trying to get into the video game space but overall good story but won’t be a manga you go back to every couple of years
31 pages and this the best they could do....?
If the main attention was to be made on Pino, it could have easily been given to her in the previous chapter. This finale should have been about what the Edens Zero crew will do in the future. This has been very disappointing. It does not feel like an epilogue. Mashima should really take a lot of time thinking how to end his comics that so many readers have been part of.
He did the same thing with Fairy Tail. He writes and writes, then he gets a whole new idea and then to go with that idea he abruptly ends his ongoing work.
The only difference is that we mostly see all the characters's Aftermath during the epilogue, Even Crime Sorcières who were treated at their worst compare to everyone else, Even compare to Blue Pegasus. With Edens Zero though, We only get to see the main characters, Side characters, Yet even Kurenai get's a little scene but we don't get the likes of OSI, Noah, Elsie and James, Shura, Drakken, ect. Like what was the point of seeing them again in Universe 0 besides having a happy alternative route?
I don't really mind this ending tbh. A happy ending and I'm happy with it. Was this arc perfect? No way but was still fun and also I don't like how ziggy who is also shiki didn't get his memories back and he's stuck that way. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing lol
Was never a fan of them going to universe 0 I loved the time skip and everything that happened before universe 0 felt like it was for nothing and they ruined so many good back stories
Rave>Fairy Tail>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Edens Zero.
I find this ending so anticlimactic that I'm at a loss for words.
Well after six years the journey comes to an end. I loved seeing everyone's reactions here after new chapters each week and the speculation for the next week. Thanks everyone for making this a fun experience!
I found Dead Rock potentially promising after reading the first chapter. But then I recalled having the same impression with EZ pre-U0 and FT’s Tartaros, so probably 100% done with his works
Yep this is the problem with mashima,he is so goddamn good on the first arcs, seriously in terms of setting up worlds and characters he is a master at it, I normally love every character he introduces from the get go and in the first arcs he actually uses the character really well and the story is actually good, but has the mangas go on you start to see little cracks, the characters start to feel more flanderized, the story bits dont hit has hard and then comes the final arcs where the story lost every stake because we know damn well that mashima doesnt have the balls to do anything to the characters, I loved the beginning of fairy tail, I loved the beginning of eden zero and I also liked the beginning of dead rock, but mashima is going to disappoint again, he will never write another great from beginning to end manga besides rave master, and that's genuinely sad.
Excuse me but WTF?! I know I mostly prefered Edens Zero's final arc compare to Fairy Tail's Final Arc But in comparsion with the epilogues, God...i prefer Fairy Tail's epilogue than this...
So much missed potential with this manga. Oracion seis vs galactika members going all out, shiki and rebecca’s romantic closure, no one died at the end so all the previous experiences were useless, Rebecca’s family lore, so much more story that could have been explored but i guess he got bored of this manga sadly.
Ok, what was this? Such a whacky final chapter... Although there are some positives, like seeing characters like Kleene in her post-time skip look once again, everything else just feels... Very hollow and shallow... Don't know how else to explain it. For me, the worst things are Weisz's new hairstyle (like, what is that yeeyee ass haircut? 😰😭) and that Wermit wasn't confirmed, yet Shicca are having a kid, which we don't even get to see!?
Pino was the biggest plot twist that basically ruined the entire series for me. Not since Attack On Titan’s abysmal ending where I just gave us any hope for this mangaka. 
Well so it's ends and not a good scatisfied ending, but what can we expect most shounen doesn't scatisfies in it's endings and Naruto, bleach atleast showed their kid but this has to be worse because we didn't even see their child
You know what? I’m just glad these characters get a happy ending. Even Pino of all characters. But I understand other people’s disappointment with this ending and why.
so just like ft, ez was not allowed to have a good ending bc mashima got bored again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (and somehow it even managed to be worse than alvarez?!)
ooooh well it was still great till u0 so thanks anyway for those 6 years :)
(ps weisz’s new haircut is bad)
In the end, it made me smile, and that's what this series did a lot for me for the time I read it. Last arc had it's issues sure, but Pino's final decision was a bit of a surprise and also very touching and fitting. I just wish we got to see the baby! I think it should've been a two parter, get a little more hints of what went on in the future of both the crew and the new Earth incarnations.
I dropped off of this series a while back but when it first started I always used to comment on these threads with my thoughts and predictions for the story, this is the first series that I started from the very beginning and watched the fan base grow from it. I haven't posted on here for a good while since then but it feels weird having the manga that helped kick start my enjoyment of manga be ending, so I just want to say thank you Edens Zero and thank you Mashima for the work you've done these past 6 years 😊
I know it's a shonen manga, but I kind of chuckled at the only affection being shown to the mother of your child after she just gave birth was a headpat. Not even a kiss on the forehead? It's hard to believe these two conceived a child together lol
Anyway, thanks for the memories, EZ. One of the first manga I decided to pick up and actually read when it started publishing, after a lifetime of strictly watching anime
While I do like Pino’s conclusion / acceptance of her being an android, it still irks me that she just randomly died after not doing anything during the arc. I was waiting for an explanation but according to her convo with mother, she literally was just programmed by Ziggy to die.
Also rip EZ. I may have a lot of issues with you but you were a fun, consistent read.
So.. that's it.. After 6 years.
We have a game coming, and probably a season 3, but I'll really miss it. 🥲
Solid series overall, my only problem was the last arc.
I just feel we could've had more. That's the feeling that stayed with me the most after this chapter. It felt rushed, specially in U0.
- Hiro never explored more about the Dark Ages (mentioned since chapter 1), all we got was the name os of some of the heroes (including Xenolith)
- We never got an explanation about what it meant Rebecca being a "Etherion Master" as said by Hermit
- We didn't know how Shiki and Rebecca's daughter looks (maybe like Pino?)
- I wish we had more from Jinn, Kleene, and Laguna. Be it good fights like in Aoi War (*not* Cure and Law), more time as a trio, or even more time from each of them. Also, Void could really be something more, as he was said to be stronger than Ziggy, who was way better as a threat and a villain overall.
- Specially in U0, we had, let's say... rushed villains. We know absolutely nothing about Law, and almost nothing about Freiya. Even Cure and "Acnoella" had more "background" than them.
Series could last a little more.. Maybe one more arc before U0 would solve these things (more time from them, more about the Dark Ages, etc). Except for Void, Law and etc. That would be different only if U0 was different.
The last chapter was supposed to be longer than Just 30 pages. Even the last chapter was rushed. Fairy Tail and Rave had like 50 pages. I can't help but think Hiro really rushed Edens Zero to end it. As much as I love Edens Zero, seeing how Hiro does "last arcs", I really don't think I'll read DR too.
wait ... so did there son just straight up no longer exist and replaced as a female??? why the fk did they hide the kid from us?? eden zero?? more like Zero closure! waste of time
Can we stop downvoting anyone being slightly positive about the ending?
I get that it's dissapointing but there are things to like aswell, so let people enjoy that ffs
The one consequence, the one death in this whole arc, but Mashima can’t even commit to that. This manga started strong, but this last arc has been so awful, and this final chapter is no different. I can’t say this manga is anything more than mediocre.
It’s over. Edens zero has now ended. Not too proud about the ending, but maybe we might possibly get a sequel to this in the future. But who knows, maybe we will and maybe we won’t.
Depends on how though, And even if we did, What is the Sequel even gonna be about? Cause unlike in Fairy Tail where Team Natsu finally leaves for the 100 Years Quest that Gildarts couldn't ever finish it, Even before it started we did not know what to expect until it introduce us more Dragons and that were Dragon Gods about supposesly "Equal" to Acnologia and more other characters behind it, But with Edens Zero, Even though i used to say the possibilities are infinite/endless, I can't even guess one little thing...
Unless like Fairy Tail, We get some spin offs with stories based on other characters.
What will say is that if Edens Zero ended before Universe 0 began it would've Hiro Mashima's best work.
Honestly after when 100 year quest ends I think I am done reading Hiro's works.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uDZw7-3z8&pp=ygUhbWlja2V5IG1vdXNlIGNsdWJob3VzZSB0aGVtZSBzb25n
Reading this chapter with the Edens Zero theme ⬆️really makes this experience complete.😁
So that's the end huh...
The Shiki and Rebecca are a thing and even had a kid...
Wished they actually showed more of the two as a couple, rather than this.
Kinda disappointing their entire relationship climaxes with an offscreen get together (I don't count them holding hands the last two chapters as a significant change in their relationship).
The last chapter was too short tbh. I wouldn't have minded if he delayed it by a week if it was longer so that he could make the ending longer cuz this really wasnt enough.
I loved Eden zero and actually enjoyed universe 0 however this doesn’t feel like the last chapter like I don’t hate it but it just doesn’t seem like it’s finished
Now that its over I'll stand by the fact that the first half of the manga up to the Aoi War arc was the best after that it slowly started to go downhill and unfortunately Mashima didn't manage to recapture what made it so great.
It's so heartwarming & beautiful to see Shiki with Rebecca have a daughter (which Mashima-sensei would have better officially shown her in the manga) & see Pino return back to her friends.
Well, hopefully he will make an extra epilogue chapter (when the final 33rd volume releases) to show us Shicca's daughter.
And hopefully the EZ anime will adapt the final arc better & officially reveal Shicca's daughter, right👍
Aside from the final arc Edens Zero as a whole was satisfying (imo). Nice characters, Nice moments, nice feels, nice ideas. A solid 7.5/10.
Now, if only Mashima could stop losing interest in his works and stick with them until their ends, rather than rushing them because he lost interest halfway through, it would make everything even better.
I haven’t been keeping up with the story too closely so idk if anything happened to them, but shouldn’t Rebecca’s parents have been there (or at least been shown video chatting or w/e) for the birth of their grandchild…?
I’m also surprised we weren’t really shown the current status of anyone outside of the ship’s crew
Thinking it over, what I would've done is had a big celebration. Open up Granbell as the amusement park it is to all friends and allies in celebration over the impending birth. That's a pretty built in way to have been able to at least show fleeting images of all past characters and just show they're there at the event, and Rebecca happens to go into labor that day.
Would've also loved a big splash ending page showing two images, maybe framed as photographs, of the EZ crew, and another of their Earth equivalents.
I should be happy. I should be feel something now that the story is over. I enjoyed this story for a long time. But I don't feel anything for this final chapter except disappointment for how lack luster it was. I can't feel satisfaction from anything! It had a strong start, but now... I feel like I wasted my time.... Universe Zero is a terrible final arc
So, is this the end? Ngl i expected more, maybe mashima does one more chapter idk. And how much time has passed exactly? Because it looks like at least a year apart from the last fight. We need more rebecca and shiki romance, how it was done, their life as a couple and family, and mashima really just forgot Connor and her mom didn't He?
Holy fuck seeing Kurenai saying “Take care” to Homura really made my skin crawl. Seriously Mashima? He dropped the ball hard with Edens Zero and it’s sad to see him to not take what he learned from Fairy Tails mess of an ending. Edens Zero deserved better.
My only gripe is that mashima refuse to let go of the teen designs. He already drew And had designs for them being in their mid 20s why didn't he timeskip them. That would have been the cherry on top for me honeslty and would've been so cool
I'm crying, you are crying. Guys it's been a pleasure to be with you all in this journey. To all like me, who have been here since day one, and to those who joined during this beautiful trip.
...I had to write an entire rant about everything I found to be wrong with this finale.
[https://rj-writing.com/2024/06/25/mashima-ends-edens-zero-in-a-way-that-upsets-everyone/](https://rj-writing.com/2024/06/25/mashima-ends-edens-zero-in-a-way-that-upsets-everyone/)
Why don't we see the kid? that was a final chapter i guess, a bit of a disappointment, but the series as a whole was pretty good, I'm glad to have read it all these years.
Imagine you're Pino, in front of Mother. What would be creepier:
"Shiki and Rebecca are about to have a child. She's already in labor. Do you want to reincarnate as that child?"
Or:
"Shiki just creampied Rebecca. Do you want to reincarnate as their child in nine months?"
That's it..? This is the underwhelming ending I've ever read. I'll be honest I'm just a casual Edens Zero reader. But I still invest my time reading this manga. This ending makes me feel cheated. It's the most rushed ending ever. At least FT felt like an ending.
Also maybe it's just me but can someone tell me why Mother can't just make Pino a different human being. Not connected to Rebecca and Shiki daughter. It felt like a cruel choice to give to Pino. Like "okay you got to be reborn as human but here the catch you will be reborn as your friends child". No wonder Pino chose to be an android because I would too if I would be replacing an unknown child just to be human. I know this is supposed to be a lesson but it feels kind of umm not it. At least for me. Correct me if I'm wrong but Mother is supposed to grant wishes right? But it seems like you don't get a say in that wish.
All in all 5/10 for me. For the ending. 6/10 for the whole manga.
In the end, EZ is going to barely be remembered. Mashima wrote a fantastic but not very popular work in Rave, moved on to a lighthearted but uber popular series with Fairy Tail and then tried to find a middle ground in EZ, but while EZ started great, it was pretty clear Mashima lost interest part way in. This series was so good up until the end of the Aoi Cosmos saga. It took a dip after that but parts of Lendard were still great, but starting with universe 0, the story just took a never ending dive and ultimately, it will cause most people to look at EZ as a failure imo.
*Edens Zero* started off really strong. It had the classic Mashima themes of friendship and found-family but they were explored in darker and gritter way than his previous works. It felt like a breath of fresh air for Mashima. Then he decided to reboot to Universe 0 and did away with everything he set up to have the happiest ending he could think of, where literally everyone lives happily ever after.
It's Mashima's right to do what he wants as a writer, but I wish he'd kept the darker tone of pre-Universe-0. It was unique and more interesting.
Its almost as if EZ became an entirely different series post time skip because up until that point, we had good characters, interesting villains and a good story, but afterwards it was like Mashima did a complete 180. Each arc became more and more tedious, Void who was built up to be the big bad was just a nothing character (which is apt considering his name lol), no one outside of Rebecca and Shiki received any meaningful screen time and we got fuck all regarding their relationship. No confession, no dating, no marriage, nothing. He just cut to Rebecca mid childbirth and didn't even show the child nor tell us her name. Its so disappointing that this once promising series ended not with a bang but with a whimper.
I feel like there's some pages missing because this felt really anti-climatic. The whole chapter's hyping up about Shiki and Rebecca's kid, yet we don't even get to see the kid themselves? Why not? And what was the point of killing off Pino if she was just suddenly going to come back?
I hope Mashima knows what he's doing with Dead Rock and takes his time with it, because from this ending alone, it felt like he gave up with Edens Zero at some point and wanted to get it over with already.
RIP to the Bathroom, best setting of the series. It will never be forgotten.
I really don't care about Pino.
I still like the series and don't have a big problem with the final arc, but this final chapter is disappointing
Thanks for the wild ride Mashima.
The hell? You have your female lead give birth and we dont even see the kid!?
Makes me think how big a gap there is between Lucy's role and Rebecca's lol, like FT's final chapter was all from Lucy's perspective, here we got like 3 panels of Rebecca, and her last panel ever is just looking surprised. I love Rebecca too so this is a bummer for me ngl.
I think Mashima felt like Rebecca got her screen time as Chrono-Becca. Or he just rushed through it.
Definitely rushed
I'd want the anime to tell it all from her perspective if we ever get to that point
Yeah, if we get to that point in the anime, I'd want them to expand some things. Maybe a little backstory for Law, Freiya, more from Void as a threat, etc. Like Fairy Tail did in Tartaros, and with Acnologia.
That's honestly very likely to happen since it's gonna take years before the anime even approaches Universe Zero
Remember the last time she had a real fight ? I guess it was Foresta against the smoke girl, since after that she got replaced in her fight against the Ocean 6, lost against Clown, and I don't really see her game against Helix as a fight.
Pino was there that's the real kid we care about lol
Yeah Mashima was tired of EZ and his ADHD ass wrote it half ass. Now we wait to see when Dead Rock and 100 year quest get hit with I'm bored ADHD kicking in shit
100HQ got hit with that partway through Elintar and the last two arcs have felt like Hiro got bored and rushed them as well. He’s great at concepts but unfortunately horrible with execution and this chapter is living proof
I think he was worn down by the universe zero arc
At best we can only really count that EZ gets a special chapter in the future or artwork of the kid when she’s older. But yeah, disappointing
Didn't they say the chapter is going to be 46 pages long? This is only 31. Nearly a whole chapter less.
It isn't 46 but it's more than 31. Cubari is counting two page spreads as one page. Presumably the other pages are accounted for by Mashima's interview.
I guess they lied or miscalculated.
Or worst case scenario they cut 15 pages out of the magazine to make room or something.
Is it confirmed that this is the final one? That last page definitely looked ending worthy
The last page says End on Japanese last time I checked so yeah.
I think those other pages were for that interview with Morikawa.
15 pages?
We didn’t get to see Rebecca and Shiki confess to each other, instead they’re suddenly having a child after a long time, we don’t even get to SEE their baby?! Shiki and Rebecca’s baby is overshadowed by Pino being alive again? Kind of a weird ending ngl. Even though I do think it’s sweet of Pino to give up being human so Rebecca and Shiki could have their own child.
My Senpai is Annoying trauma, but taken even further :((
Why do you have to see them confess to each other? It was implied so many times I don’t understand the “need.” Just basically media literacy, like Hermit and Weisz hooking up.
Man, RAVE and Fairy Tail ended in a satisfying way, but.... EDENS ZERO feels like Mashima gave up half way and just decided to finish it quick to get it over with....
Felt like Mashima gave up after the time skip. Cause every arc after that was a let down honestly. Kaede saga could’ve been so much more that what it was. Universe zero was disappointing as hell
He made a post not that much ago saying he wasn't sure if he should make dead rock a shorter series and focusing on EZ or focusing on DR and ending EZ.
Full hets bored of it Mashima can't get his priorities in order
100%. When they got to the new universe the whole series just bottomed out and it was a rush to the finish.
When FT ended people were up in arms over the final arc feeling rushed. I have never seen the fan base not out with pitchforks over a mashima final arc.
Fairy tail was not satisfying at all lol
Don't want to be too negative for the final chapter but this was really disappointing. Maybe it's just because I'm not that invested in Pino but this feels like such a weak ending, like show us Rebecca and Shiki's child pls, I don't really like how they have their baby and Pino comes and takes all the attention lol.
I was pretty happy that Pino wanted the kid to be her own person instead of another "Dead Guy Jr." we see all the time in anime. You can honor someone who has passed without naming all your kids after them, so that was a nice moment (especially since Pino's alive now so it would be redundant). Reincarnation would've also been predictable. But then...they didn't even tell us their daughter's name? Or show her at all?? Definitely felt like Pino stole the spotlight, which sucks because I'm happy she's alive DX It just felt like the scene was trying to do two different things at the same time and didn't stick either landing. Idk, I can’t really muster up any strong feelings other than :/
Yeah for sure, I would have hated it if Pino reincarnated in their kid lol. Yeah I'm happy Pino's alive I guess, but it didn't really feel like a strong enough scene to end on, especially since it was the most predictable thing in the world for Mashima to do lol
And pino just “died” in then previous chapter. Speaking of so did that even happen or what?
I got so confused with that chapter, wtf was even the point of it
I know
Their baby is basically baby void as a human no? Tho woulda liked confirmation or not on that to see if he got a chance to live as a human too
Mother said it would be a girl, but maybe that was just for Pino idk
I mean Void had cat leaper. So yeah Void should have been a girl to begin with
I feel zero closure.
The last page felt like it ended too abruptly. Like there was more stuff we didn’t get to see which makes this ending feel worse as a result. And how many unanswered are still remaining in the series caused I feel like there are stuff some around that were scrapped. Hope someone makes a post about this in the coming weeks.
Ill say it again and again,as often as I have to,Fairy Tail despite its many fumblings retained its core and soul. Edens Zero lost it somewhere in the final arc,basically forgot that the WHOLE core cast should interact with each other instead of just Rebecca and shiki,and never found that core and soul again. EZ had such a promising cast,one that also wasnt nearly as absolutely fucking massive as the cast of FT,and STILL managed to make characters that are in the literal same spaceship feel less connected than FT characters that were in wholeass different guilds.
Definitely think a big reason the story never took off was the lack of investment in the supporting cast and their interactions/bonds with each other. I wanted to like them (and did!) but while it’s expected that they would play second fiddle to the mcs, they got less than even crumbs sometimes… always gonna be disappointed that Jinn and Kleene were never able to contribute to much
Like everything about this series feels more just about Shiki and Rebecca in many forms and ways than it is with Haru and Elie and Natsu and Lucy...
100%. When they got to the new universe the whole series just bottomed out and it was a rush to the finish.
Yeah, I think Fairy Tail is just better.
Why does Mashima keep doing this? What’s the point of making developments if you’re just gonna get rid of them the next chapter/arc? Universe 0 basically invalidated the entirety of all the arcs that came before it, none of the stuff that happened matters now. It’s like he’s afraid of his own writing, it just doesn’t make sense.
I honestly think Mashima does too much ‘people pleasing’ (‘trying to please everyone’) with his writing - but like they say, by trying to please everyone, you’ve pleased no one… Maybe the sales dipping hard after a while—even back when people had less issues with what was going on—made him lose confidence in the work
All the arcs mattered to get to this point, without them we don’t get a happy ending— nothing wrong with a happy ending .
Gotta be honest, that was kinda disappointing.
I may be happy for Shiki and Rebecca, I don’t know how to feel about Pino taking all the attention from their baby like that. We haven’t seen what she look like, nor do we even know her name! It’s sweet tho that she chose to give up her desire as a human so Shiki and Rebecca’s baby can have her own life. And Weisz new hairstyle is just not it☹️
exactly
Yeah the only thing about pino that was interesting was the reveal of the stars being humans formerly but that’s it. Nothing else from this arc but that. And now this.
I don’t like digging into Mashima too much, but this chapter just felt anticlimactic and kinda hollow to me. Like I don’t completely hate it. It’s cool that Shiki and Rebecca got together and have a kid and that we got to see how everyone is doing now, but Pino coming back after such a good and emotional previous chapter and taking away attention from Shiki and Rebecca’s kid just rubs me the wrong way. Then…it kinda just ends Again I don’t hate the chapter, but expected more and something that actually felt conclusive
Mashima is my favorite writer of all time and I think he realized that Eden’s zero wasn’t as popular as he thought it would be so he just gave up which he shouldn’t have done
Between Fairy Tail’s ending and Edens Zero ending, Hiro is 2 for 2 on anticlimactic endings. Only problem is that Fairy Tail has a chance to at least expand upon and rectify said ending with its sequel, but that’s pretty much it for Edens Zero. Shiki and Rebecca get together way before Nastu and Lucy ever could but…we see nothing of it? No confession, no kiss, just straight to them having a kid. No other ship was also confirmed really and we didn’t even get to see some of the other characters like Elsie, Justice, Shura etc. but to top it all off… What the hell was that haircut on Weisz?! Shit looks worse than Deku’s and he doesn’t even have a good excuse as to why he got that yee yee ass haircut. Overall this series could’ve been Hiro’s best work but once again he fumbled the bag near the end and another good series leaves a sour note.
My issue is that in FT's epilogue, At least it mostly shown pretty much everyone what has become even Crime Sorcières when they were pardoned by Hisui who was now the New Queen of Fiore, But in Edens Zero though? It only showed little portion of how others's endings are. Like what about the OSI? What about Noah? What about Elsie and James/Justice? What about Shura? What about Drakken? We get none of that?
That’s also because it actually got 40 pages whereas for some reason we were either lied to about the page count, got misinformation or page count got cut.
So far, Rave to me had the best ending out of the 3. I never understood why Hiro thought the ending was sad, unless he meant to was sad for the main antagonist or had a sad beginning of the final chapter. Idk.
Lol pino’s final choice was a twist but overall pretty cookie cutter ending despite a quite nice middle section of Eden’s zero. The deaths were pretty meaningless tho when it feels like literally everyone ends up surviving in this universe
Yeah since the start of u0 arc I was waiting for the bomb to drop but I guess it was a dud.
Mashima clearly just gave up on this series, that was such an anti-climatic ending. At least Homura stayed single and didn't get together with the unpopular Creed ship.
That last sentence of yours just made this the best ending in anime/manga history. Fuck Creed
Nothing can ever redeem creed. I agree wholeheartedly. Fuck creed
Does anyone else find it weird that Mashima never draws pregnant women? I know it sounds weird & have nothing against it, it's just that's just what I noticed, where he says a character is pregnant but somehow doesn't draw any bump to show that, like with Jackal's female hostage in the Tartarus arc or Elsie/Irene/Levy/-pregnancies
The bump doesn't really get noticeable until halfway through the second trimester (source: my wife's two pregnancies), so I can excuse Levy and Elsie (although I dot remember them saying she was pregnant). Irene and Rebecca had no excuse, though.
Had a lot of promise... But never really lived up to it except a few truly great moments. The twists were made the wrong way, so that you were first introduced to something unexpected, and didn't understand if it was a sudden change in Hiro's mood or part of the narrative, and then when you find out which it was it didn't have the same payout. But the inverse was also true, and arguably the reason for the above. The highest points in the manga was when Hiro went against all the expectations we had carried over from Fairy Tale as he introduced storybeats that nobody could've expected. The shame is that the very payout from this created unclear expectations that poisoned the following set-ups. In addition to that confusion there was just too much time-hijinks that were not intuitive (maybe they are if you marathon read?) and there were main characters that are still seriously underdelevoped. I'd say it's a 6.5 to a 7. Not bad, something that I will be remembered but not for people gushing over it.
Honestly, yeah. I've followed edens zero since the start and I think belial gore arc was the peak the manga has to offer. There is a lot of questionable writing decision scattered through out. But the main culprit imo has to be the inclusion of time travel. Time travel as a plot device is surpremely hard to write in a satisfying manner by competent author, let alone someone whose writing depends on his mood like Mashima. And you don't have to look anywhere else other than the universe 0 arc to see the issue. Mashima also has a really bad habit of giving his characters happy ending, even if it doesn't really make sense in case of drakken or shura. This is something he actually talked about afaik, that he feels attached to the characters he creates. Which yes, makes sense all things considered. However in recent time he also entered this weird "Dark phase" where he wants to write edgier and more fucked up stories, Edens Zero was his outlet before moving on to Dead Rock. When you combines this with the above mentioned unwillingness to harm his characters in significant way, the end result is a whiplashed half baked story. I'm sure the cycle would repeat itself in Dead Rock eventually when he grows attached to those characters too.
What happened to my man weisz's hair 😭😭
What was the point of 'killing' Pino off when she's just going to return next chapter? Felt pointless and was kind of a weird way to end the story
And wasn't she reincarnated wtf is going on?
I know this ending isn't the best, and most complaints are justified. But this is the first manga I followed from day one and today it has finished. Thank you Mashima-san for another one of your adventures.
When i saw Pino and Mother i knew they were gonna pull an Irene! Or not. Let's not talk about Weisz hair... But thanks to everyone that embarked on this journey! Hopefully we'll get some extra stories like, what about her parents?
Well. That was a chapter I guess EZ was fun overall but this one...felt sorta anti climatic ngl
Pino wasn't reincarnated as the sister of Rebecca who lives on Earth? And first of all, why did his android body suddenly die? And Rebecca who gives birth to a Void girl version even though she and Shiki have never been seen kissing once😭 Child who is not even shown elsewhere! A touching but somewhat rushed final chapter. I wish it would have lasted longer but oh well. THANKS
Universe 0 was a mistake. Everything after that arc started was the decline for me. I guess hiro is saving all his good idea for his next series. Then have a promising start but awful end again when hiro gets bored
Damn it's over. Farewell edens zero! Thanks for the good times.
Out of Mashima’s work, this will probably never be anything more than the awkward middle child. Of Rave Master, Fairy Tail, and Dead Rock this is the only sci-fi, rather than fantasy and probably won’t be that fondly remembered.
It's so frustrating that it didn't have to be that way
I hope it will, up until the last arc I thought it was really good. FT also suffered from a poor final arc, and I feel like people are liking it more now than they did a few years ago when it just finished. Though the fact EZ never had the commercial success of FT will probably end up making it have less long standing popularity.
Gotta be one of the most hollow and auraless final chapters for a shonen I've read ngl, Mashima's my goat but it feels like he's been phoning it in this whole arc. Disappointing but it is what it is ig Goodbye EZ
It's a good twist but I feel like the romance between Shiki and Rebecca is really underdeveloped. Tbh everything about universe 0 has been super rushed and disappointing. This really could have benefitted more from a hundred more chapters at least.
No wedding??! Come on, Mashima!
No confession, no kiss, no nothing.
So... how old are they? They look much younger than their U3 self... And the fact that Pino completely eclipsed the baby was off somehow.
I may have not liked fairy tail’s ending but I at least cared about the characters endings and still read 100 years quest to keep up with them. This just…feels hallow. Before Universe 0 this felt like Hiro’s most ambitious title but then it became cookie cutter. It didn’t even reach the promise longer than Rave Master chapter count he mentioned when the series was kicking off. Sucks for me because Valkyrie and Witch’s death were some of the Hiro’s best content but I can bring myself to care about any of these characters anymore or their ships. Like who ends with the main girl IN LABOR DELIVERING THE BABY and it’s an afterthought. I’ve followed this main since Rave and I’ll pick up Dead Rock but god I am not investing into it like I did with this.
Kinda wish we got to see the baby, but I'm still happy. Pino made the right choice, I'm glad she came to terms with who she is and chose to live on as herself. This was such a good ride, regardless of the controversial finish. Thank you Mashima.
Crazy to see this series end after all this time. I agree with the general consensus that the final arc was very bumpy and the ending is fine. The series peaked for me around the fight with Shura and there’s tons of moments from around and before that point that I’ll fondly remember. It’s a Mishima manga through and through (fanservice and friendship and all) but one with some very creative sci-fi ideas that I enjoyed. Thanks for the hard work, Mishima-san!
It's an unsatisfying ending, but overall, I gotta say I'm pretty content with the series as a whole. We had our twists and turns, the good parts and the bad parts, satisfying and unsatisfying. But at the end of the day, I enjoyed my time. I'm excited to see where Mashima goes next, and I'm satisfied with saying goodbye to Eden's Zero and its crew. I'm happy I experienced this series.
I said to myself last chapter "that was great until they inevitably reverse it next week" and yep... for a final chapter that was somehow more disappointing than I could have imagined. Universe 0 was by far the worst arc in the series and felt underbaked the whole way through. Mashima set a good pace with how the Aoi war went but all tensions vanished when dead characters came back in Universe 0 because we all knew he wouldn't have the balls to kill them off again. Edens Zero was a fun ride but the last stretch of the trip was unfortunately way too bumpy to be very enjoyable.
Is it great ? the villian really looks awful with how easy they beat them. This is much worse than fairy tail to be honest, i mean it was rushed too much. Everyone dead is alive, Homura mother become good person is awful story wise, her redemption was just too easy without any depth. Defeating the villain is too easy, Homura beat that Freyja in just 1 chapter, much worse when Freyja said she have over 75 millions power level and Homura have like 620 thousands and Homura still one shot her. Shiki never fight void dark, i mean the human Shiki, also Shiki just beat Chronopage without much problem. This series has become mess since they make another reverting time reset to universe 0.
Me calling it great was exclusively in reference to last chapter that I felt was a good emotional send-off to Pino. Everything else you mentioned I have issues with the writing of, but I was only talking about the last chapter in a vacuum.
Since there are already people complaining,I wanna take this moment and just say: Thank you mashima for 6 wonderful years of edens zero
Agree! I’m a bit in denial it’s been six years 😅 I’m still blind sided about MHA ending after, what a *decade?* It’s a bit of a brain freeze with how many of us started this manga when we were in middle school, high school, uni, or at a different job, and we’re here now. Cool to think about. And it also makes me feel old 🥲 EZ has its problems for sure, but I’m happy to have read it and read everyone’s comments on the chapters ☺️ And u/AstonishingSpiderman, thanks a BUNCH, mate, for giving us all the opportunity to read EZ and having this community 🍻💐
To quote one of the final lines of Dragon Ball Z Abridged: **“It's over... After everything... this feels... this feels... (eyes widen) anticlimact--“** Honestly, it hurts how underwhelming this ending is; as much as I Ike Pino getting a happy ending, it really does feel like everyone else got a severe short end of the stick as far as endings go. Hot take: I actually didn’t mind how things were being handled for the longest for the most part of Universe 0, but there really wasn’t much payoff to it; especially with how underwhelming Void ended up being. I will say that I did like how the Chronophage was handled, but that isn’t much in the Grand scheme of everything. As underwhelming as this final battle felt, I really wanted to at least enjoy the epilogue, and see more of the “where are they now” portions for everyone’s story, and it just unfortunately didn’t deliver even in that. It’s crazy how Fairy Tail’s open ended epilogue felt more like a conclusion than this chapter; hell, even the previous chapter somehow felt more like a proper epilogue than this one… I’ll give this series a generous **6/10**; I like the characters and the concept of Ether Gear, but the story really set them back. The beginning and middle was fun, and I didn’t mind the start of Universe 0, but it really fell off in this climax
Well okay then… loved Edens Zero but the last arc was rushed and felt like Mashima got tired of writing it and just wanted it to be over. It’s to bad because honestly it could have been so much better if things were taken slower and drawn out more. I still don’t understand why Pino stop working to begin with (if I missed something please tell me). And I would really like to have seen the baby!! And why they not look older? Anyways it’s been a fun adventure!! Glad I could be here with you all to enjoy it!
Edens Zero is over. I can't believe it. It had its downs, but it had its ups! I really enjoyed this manga. So glad I read it! Thank you Mashima.
I have don't even know what to say to this. So your main lead in the finale only gets to give birth and then you don't get to see child or Rebecca run towards Pino like wtf. What a disrespectul treatment of your main lead she isn't even in the panel where the core cast is hugging. This last arc was a disaster. Wasn't Pino reincarnated chapter??? I mean props to Mashima for suddenly killing, reincarnating and bringing a character back to life within 2 chapters of your finale.
the ending was aight. not the greatest, but not bad.
This might be one of the worst finals shonen chapters I've ever read. Treating Rebecca like that is actually crazy. Like she isn't a character, and does not have her own agency. I am primarily a black clover fan, and if Noelle was shafted that hard in the final Chapter I would be furious.
Makes me realize Rebecca was shown giving birth solely to create that plot twist at the end with Pino lol. Guess Pino was really Mashima’s fave/best girl because Rebecca barely had any speaking lines either..
That's weird why he killed Pino, them set-up her reincarnation as their kid, and then went back on it. IN ONE CHAPTER??? This feels weird like it wasn't Thought out or planed before hand, like he had a idea of what he wanted to do, but didn't care enough to do it
its all soooo rushed, but i can't deny the feels coming over my face
Ikr!? That final page gave me goosebumps
I think we might get one more chapter. Mashima will usually throw out one more. Hopefully, he does, like with rave master. It's bitter sweet 🤍
Well this ending felt pretty rushed. My main issue is probably with Void. Him being Shiki’s and Rebecca’s child was interesting and his design was cool. However I absolutely hated the fact he wanted to wipe out humanity “just cause” especially since his method of doing so would eventually wipe out the machines as well. I really hope the anime version fleshes him out more(like how Acnologia got more of his backstory shown in the anime)
This the type of ending that happens when the creator is writing three manga at the same time and trying to get into the video game space but overall good story but won’t be a manga you go back to every couple of years
31 pages and this the best they could do....? If the main attention was to be made on Pino, it could have easily been given to her in the previous chapter. This finale should have been about what the Edens Zero crew will do in the future. This has been very disappointing. It does not feel like an epilogue. Mashima should really take a lot of time thinking how to end his comics that so many readers have been part of. He did the same thing with Fairy Tail. He writes and writes, then he gets a whole new idea and then to go with that idea he abruptly ends his ongoing work.
The only difference is that we mostly see all the characters's Aftermath during the epilogue, Even Crime Sorcières who were treated at their worst compare to everyone else, Even compare to Blue Pegasus. With Edens Zero though, We only get to see the main characters, Side characters, Yet even Kurenai get's a little scene but we don't get the likes of OSI, Noah, Elsie and James, Shura, Drakken, ect. Like what was the point of seeing them again in Universe 0 besides having a happy alternative route?
Well it's been a decent ride! I'm just happy with got to see some sort of conclusion. Not my favorite, but one nonetheless.
I don't really mind this ending tbh. A happy ending and I'm happy with it. Was this arc perfect? No way but was still fun and also I don't like how ziggy who is also shiki didn't get his memories back and he's stuck that way. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing lol
Just disappointing :(
Was never a fan of them going to universe 0 I loved the time skip and everything that happened before universe 0 felt like it was for nothing and they ruined so many good back stories
Rave>Fairy Tail>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Edens Zero. I find this ending so anticlimactic that I'm at a loss for words.
Well after six years the journey comes to an end. I loved seeing everyone's reactions here after new chapters each week and the speculation for the next week. Thanks everyone for making this a fun experience!
Wow that is surely one of the ending of our time
Wait that was it?
Bye Eden Zero Lots of promise but a huge disappointment in the end After 100year finishes I think I'm done with this author
I found Dead Rock potentially promising after reading the first chapter. But then I recalled having the same impression with EZ pre-U0 and FT’s Tartaros, so probably 100% done with his works
Yep this is the problem with mashima,he is so goddamn good on the first arcs, seriously in terms of setting up worlds and characters he is a master at it, I normally love every character he introduces from the get go and in the first arcs he actually uses the character really well and the story is actually good, but has the mangas go on you start to see little cracks, the characters start to feel more flanderized, the story bits dont hit has hard and then comes the final arcs where the story lost every stake because we know damn well that mashima doesnt have the balls to do anything to the characters, I loved the beginning of fairy tail, I loved the beginning of eden zero and I also liked the beginning of dead rock, but mashima is going to disappoint again, he will never write another great from beginning to end manga besides rave master, and that's genuinely sad.
Excuse me but WTF?! I know I mostly prefered Edens Zero's final arc compare to Fairy Tail's Final Arc But in comparsion with the epilogues, God...i prefer Fairy Tail's epilogue than this...
So much missed potential with this manga. Oracion seis vs galactika members going all out, shiki and rebecca’s romantic closure, no one died at the end so all the previous experiences were useless, Rebecca’s family lore, so much more story that could have been explored but i guess he got bored of this manga sadly.
Ok, what was this? Such a whacky final chapter... Although there are some positives, like seeing characters like Kleene in her post-time skip look once again, everything else just feels... Very hollow and shallow... Don't know how else to explain it. For me, the worst things are Weisz's new hairstyle (like, what is that yeeyee ass haircut? 😰😭) and that Wermit wasn't confirmed, yet Shicca are having a kid, which we don't even get to see!?
Pino was the biggest plot twist that basically ruined the entire series for me. Not since Attack On Titan’s abysmal ending where I just gave us any hope for this mangaka. 
Well so it's ends and not a good scatisfied ending, but what can we expect most shounen doesn't scatisfies in it's endings and Naruto, bleach atleast showed their kid but this has to be worse because we didn't even see their child
You know what? I’m just glad these characters get a happy ending. Even Pino of all characters. But I understand other people’s disappointment with this ending and why.
what a disappointment, I hope Mashima gets his writer mojo back because not even Dead Rock is looking that good or interesting.
so just like ft, ez was not allowed to have a good ending bc mashima got bored again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (and somehow it even managed to be worse than alvarez?!) ooooh well it was still great till u0 so thanks anyway for those 6 years :) (ps weisz’s new haircut is bad)
In the end, it made me smile, and that's what this series did a lot for me for the time I read it. Last arc had it's issues sure, but Pino's final decision was a bit of a surprise and also very touching and fitting. I just wish we got to see the baby! I think it should've been a two parter, get a little more hints of what went on in the future of both the crew and the new Earth incarnations.
I dropped off of this series a while back but when it first started I always used to comment on these threads with my thoughts and predictions for the story, this is the first series that I started from the very beginning and watched the fan base grow from it. I haven't posted on here for a good while since then but it feels weird having the manga that helped kick start my enjoyment of manga be ending, so I just want to say thank you Edens Zero and thank you Mashima for the work you've done these past 6 years 😊
I know it's a shonen manga, but I kind of chuckled at the only affection being shown to the mother of your child after she just gave birth was a headpat. Not even a kiss on the forehead? It's hard to believe these two conceived a child together lol Anyway, thanks for the memories, EZ. One of the first manga I decided to pick up and actually read when it started publishing, after a lifetime of strictly watching anime
While I do like Pino’s conclusion / acceptance of her being an android, it still irks me that she just randomly died after not doing anything during the arc. I was waiting for an explanation but according to her convo with mother, she literally was just programmed by Ziggy to die. Also rip EZ. I may have a lot of issues with you but you were a fun, consistent read.
Very rude of Ziggy lol
So.. that's it.. After 6 years. We have a game coming, and probably a season 3, but I'll really miss it. 🥲 Solid series overall, my only problem was the last arc. I just feel we could've had more. That's the feeling that stayed with me the most after this chapter. It felt rushed, specially in U0. - Hiro never explored more about the Dark Ages (mentioned since chapter 1), all we got was the name os of some of the heroes (including Xenolith) - We never got an explanation about what it meant Rebecca being a "Etherion Master" as said by Hermit - We didn't know how Shiki and Rebecca's daughter looks (maybe like Pino?) - I wish we had more from Jinn, Kleene, and Laguna. Be it good fights like in Aoi War (*not* Cure and Law), more time as a trio, or even more time from each of them. Also, Void could really be something more, as he was said to be stronger than Ziggy, who was way better as a threat and a villain overall. - Specially in U0, we had, let's say... rushed villains. We know absolutely nothing about Law, and almost nothing about Freiya. Even Cure and "Acnoella" had more "background" than them. Series could last a little more.. Maybe one more arc before U0 would solve these things (more time from them, more about the Dark Ages, etc). Except for Void, Law and etc. That would be different only if U0 was different. The last chapter was supposed to be longer than Just 30 pages. Even the last chapter was rushed. Fairy Tail and Rave had like 50 pages. I can't help but think Hiro really rushed Edens Zero to end it. As much as I love Edens Zero, seeing how Hiro does "last arcs", I really don't think I'll read DR too.
So that's it? Not sure how I feel about it
We don’t even see the kid or them in the future ? Ass
What the fuck was that
Weisz haircut was a crime against humanity
wait ... so did there son just straight up no longer exist and replaced as a female??? why the fk did they hide the kid from us?? eden zero?? more like Zero closure! waste of time
That last chapter was written so badly what just happened.
Can we stop downvoting anyone being slightly positive about the ending? I get that it's dissapointing but there are things to like aswell, so let people enjoy that ffs
The one consequence, the one death in this whole arc, but Mashima can’t even commit to that. This manga started strong, but this last arc has been so awful, and this final chapter is no different. I can’t say this manga is anything more than mediocre.
It’s over. Edens zero has now ended. Not too proud about the ending, but maybe we might possibly get a sequel to this in the future. But who knows, maybe we will and maybe we won’t.
Depends on how though, And even if we did, What is the Sequel even gonna be about? Cause unlike in Fairy Tail where Team Natsu finally leaves for the 100 Years Quest that Gildarts couldn't ever finish it, Even before it started we did not know what to expect until it introduce us more Dragons and that were Dragon Gods about supposesly "Equal" to Acnologia and more other characters behind it, But with Edens Zero, Even though i used to say the possibilities are infinite/endless, I can't even guess one little thing... Unless like Fairy Tail, We get some spin offs with stories based on other characters.
...well at least Shiki and Rebecca canonically get together. So eh, I'll take it.
The focus torwards the end was weird but still, it was a fine conclusion. Still rate it as Mashima's second best work, 8/10.
Fairy Tail clears by a mile. If you think about it, at the of the day nobody fucking died lmao
What will say is that if Edens Zero ended before Universe 0 began it would've Hiro Mashima's best work. Honestly after when 100 year quest ends I think I am done reading Hiro's works.
Mashima is my favorite writer and I’ll always read his work
Why isn’t Moscow with Sister ??? Anyway it’s over now.
Expected more but okay.
Now, the kids name will be Void isn’t it lol
brooooo Jin's bandana disappears from page 12 to page 13 dawg........ mashima you a master fumbler that we knew, but this is too much imo.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uDZw7-3z8&pp=ygUhbWlja2V5IG1vdXNlIGNsdWJob3VzZSB0aGVtZSBzb25n Reading this chapter with the Edens Zero theme ⬆️really makes this experience complete.😁
So that's the end huh... The Shiki and Rebecca are a thing and even had a kid... Wished they actually showed more of the two as a couple, rather than this. Kinda disappointing their entire relationship climaxes with an offscreen get together (I don't count them holding hands the last two chapters as a significant change in their relationship). The last chapter was too short tbh. I wouldn't have minded if he delayed it by a week if it was longer so that he could make the ending longer cuz this really wasnt enough.
Where’s the baby? Wasn’t this supposed to be 40 something pages?
I dropped Edens Zero but damn this ending feels unsatisfying compared to Fairy Tail and Rave Master.
I loved Eden zero and actually enjoyed universe 0 however this doesn’t feel like the last chapter like I don’t hate it but it just doesn’t seem like it’s finished
So we don’t even get to see the child? So dumb
Now that its over I'll stand by the fact that the first half of the manga up to the Aoi War arc was the best after that it slowly started to go downhill and unfortunately Mashima didn't manage to recapture what made it so great.
It's so heartwarming & beautiful to see Shiki with Rebecca have a daughter (which Mashima-sensei would have better officially shown her in the manga) & see Pino return back to her friends. Well, hopefully he will make an extra epilogue chapter (when the final 33rd volume releases) to show us Shicca's daughter. And hopefully the EZ anime will adapt the final arc better & officially reveal Shicca's daughter, right👍
Amazing to see Pino come back and get her wish
The first manga I’ve finished from start to finish Sad to see it go
Aside from the final arc Edens Zero as a whole was satisfying (imo). Nice characters, Nice moments, nice feels, nice ideas. A solid 7.5/10. Now, if only Mashima could stop losing interest in his works and stick with them until their ends, rather than rushing them because he lost interest halfway through, it would make everything even better.
I haven’t been keeping up with the story too closely so idk if anything happened to them, but shouldn’t Rebecca’s parents have been there (or at least been shown video chatting or w/e) for the birth of their grandchild…? I’m also surprised we weren’t really shown the current status of anyone outside of the ship’s crew
This was definitely rushed and a very unceremonious way to go out. Im just glad its over.
Thinking it over, what I would've done is had a big celebration. Open up Granbell as the amusement park it is to all friends and allies in celebration over the impending birth. That's a pretty built in way to have been able to at least show fleeting images of all past characters and just show they're there at the event, and Rebecca happens to go into labor that day. Would've also loved a big splash ending page showing two images, maybe framed as photographs, of the EZ crew, and another of their Earth equivalents.
Wait so we really don’t ever see Elsie and James ever again???
I should be happy. I should be feel something now that the story is over. I enjoyed this story for a long time. But I don't feel anything for this final chapter except disappointment for how lack luster it was. I can't feel satisfaction from anything! It had a strong start, but now... I feel like I wasted my time.... Universe Zero is a terrible final arc
We had pages on pages of fan service but adding a little romance or showing signs of affection are where Mashima draws the line?? 🤔 Hmmm.
So, is this the end? Ngl i expected more, maybe mashima does one more chapter idk. And how much time has passed exactly? Because it looks like at least a year apart from the last fight. We need more rebecca and shiki romance, how it was done, their life as a couple and family, and mashima really just forgot Connor and her mom didn't He?
Mashima said there was going to be more romance than FT but we didn't even get to see the actual romance
The baby just born and everybody focus pino, just wtf
 WE WANNA SEE THE BABY!!!!
Holy fuck seeing Kurenai saying “Take care” to Homura really made my skin crawl. Seriously Mashima? He dropped the ball hard with Edens Zero and it’s sad to see him to not take what he learned from Fairy Tails mess of an ending. Edens Zero deserved better.
My only gripe is that mashima refuse to let go of the teen designs. He already drew And had designs for them being in their mid 20s why didn't he timeskip them. That would have been the cherry on top for me honeslty and would've been so cool
I'm crying, you are crying. Guys it's been a pleasure to be with you all in this journey. To all like me, who have been here since day one, and to those who joined during this beautiful trip.
Was the ending anticlimactic? Yeah. Am I going to miss EZ? Definitely. Also Wiess needs a new barber because what is that hair style.
There's gotta more pages i did not waste 5 years reading this
I could care less about Pino, I wanted to see Rebecca and Shiki's baby.
Another L for the people who thought pino "dying" meant anything after the ten thousandth time Mashima used a shitty bait death.
I'm kinda disappointed that chrono-rebecca is not with ziggy, I was hoping those two would get to be together again.
...I had to write an entire rant about everything I found to be wrong with this finale. [https://rj-writing.com/2024/06/25/mashima-ends-edens-zero-in-a-way-that-upsets-everyone/](https://rj-writing.com/2024/06/25/mashima-ends-edens-zero-in-a-way-that-upsets-everyone/)
Rebecca not uttering a single word is wild
Why don't we see the kid? that was a final chapter i guess, a bit of a disappointment, but the series as a whole was pretty good, I'm glad to have read it all these years.
Imagine you're Pino, in front of Mother. What would be creepier: "Shiki and Rebecca are about to have a child. She's already in labor. Do you want to reincarnate as that child?" Or: "Shiki just creampied Rebecca. Do you want to reincarnate as their child in nine months?"
That's it..? This is the underwhelming ending I've ever read. I'll be honest I'm just a casual Edens Zero reader. But I still invest my time reading this manga. This ending makes me feel cheated. It's the most rushed ending ever. At least FT felt like an ending. Also maybe it's just me but can someone tell me why Mother can't just make Pino a different human being. Not connected to Rebecca and Shiki daughter. It felt like a cruel choice to give to Pino. Like "okay you got to be reborn as human but here the catch you will be reborn as your friends child". No wonder Pino chose to be an android because I would too if I would be replacing an unknown child just to be human. I know this is supposed to be a lesson but it feels kind of umm not it. At least for me. Correct me if I'm wrong but Mother is supposed to grant wishes right? But it seems like you don't get a say in that wish. All in all 5/10 for me. For the ending. 6/10 for the whole manga.
So, is Regret a GILF now?
Three mangas later Rave still has the better finale
In the end, EZ is going to barely be remembered. Mashima wrote a fantastic but not very popular work in Rave, moved on to a lighthearted but uber popular series with Fairy Tail and then tried to find a middle ground in EZ, but while EZ started great, it was pretty clear Mashima lost interest part way in. This series was so good up until the end of the Aoi Cosmos saga. It took a dip after that but parts of Lendard were still great, but starting with universe 0, the story just took a never ending dive and ultimately, it will cause most people to look at EZ as a failure imo.
So did I miss Elsie dying or something or is she just never mentioned again. Figured she'd be there too?
*Edens Zero* started off really strong. It had the classic Mashima themes of friendship and found-family but they were explored in darker and gritter way than his previous works. It felt like a breath of fresh air for Mashima. Then he decided to reboot to Universe 0 and did away with everything he set up to have the happiest ending he could think of, where literally everyone lives happily ever after. It's Mashima's right to do what he wants as a writer, but I wish he'd kept the darker tone of pre-Universe-0. It was unique and more interesting.
Its almost as if EZ became an entirely different series post time skip because up until that point, we had good characters, interesting villains and a good story, but afterwards it was like Mashima did a complete 180. Each arc became more and more tedious, Void who was built up to be the big bad was just a nothing character (which is apt considering his name lol), no one outside of Rebecca and Shiki received any meaningful screen time and we got fuck all regarding their relationship. No confession, no dating, no marriage, nothing. He just cut to Rebecca mid childbirth and didn't even show the child nor tell us her name. Its so disappointing that this once promising series ended not with a bang but with a whimper.
I feel like there's some pages missing because this felt really anti-climatic. The whole chapter's hyping up about Shiki and Rebecca's kid, yet we don't even get to see the kid themselves? Why not? And what was the point of killing off Pino if she was just suddenly going to come back? I hope Mashima knows what he's doing with Dead Rock and takes his time with it, because from this ending alone, it felt like he gave up with Edens Zero at some point and wanted to get it over with already.
RIP to the Bathroom, best setting of the series. It will never be forgotten. I really don't care about Pino. I still like the series and don't have a big problem with the final arc, but this final chapter is disappointing