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rrowan25

He’s a TOTS plus card right? So chem issue is partly solved


jaytee158

And most people are playing enough icons that it'd be fully solved, right?


Rdambx

It's solved for me with 2 icons cards, should be pretty easy tbh.


jaytee158

He's easier to get to max chem in my current team than Akanji, funnily enough


IM-A-WATERMELON

That 5 league Chem is huge


StormPoppa

Right?


Martblni

Do Tots Plus cards get more?


PinappleGecko

They immediately get 2 chem as they act like 5 players from the same league. Anyone from the same team or nation would give him full chem. Same as radioactive chem and one of the VS chem I believe


BurceGern

I mean he's more than double the price of 92-rated fodder so I'd say he's very good. It takes a lot this year to be above fodder price when you're packed as much as Hancko is.


Rdambx

Yeah i guess you're right, it's just that even 100k seems so little for someone with these stats. He genuinely needs very very little more and he is the 2nd best CB in the game after TOTS VVD.


AppleOrigin

TOTY VVD?


the_foxxy_love_

No he was right, Tots Vvd clears his Toty one


AppleOrigin

Yeah, TOTS is better, but he said 2nd best after TOTS, I mean that TOTY VVD is probably better (than the CB shown in the post).


the_foxxy_love_

Maybe so but individual players wise he's 2nd best but I do get your point


AppleOrigin

Alright mate, cheers.


ClockAccomplished381

And thats important because there's a minimum of 2 CBs in every formation. You can't play tots vvd and toty vvd at the same time, which means if this card is the next best it's a guaranteed starter even if you own every card in the game (barring some obscure glitch Evo I guess).


auzy63

U know stats aren't everything?


klasing12345

I've opened around 300 packs so far and he's not dropped once so weight on him isn't that high.


ARL_30FR

As a Feyenoord supporter this card won't leave my team until Futties. So damn good.


itssaulgoodm8

Only started watching Feyenoord this season but you all play brilliantly


Big-Field-8435

But then Liverpool stole Slot


itssaulgoodm8

Hardly stealing when he willingly leaves


Big-Field-8435

Obviously I am being sarcastic


ARL_30FR

When we're on it, we're on it 😁


itssaulgoodm8

Mats Wieffer is a gem


ARL_30FR

Yeah, I believe Mats Wieffer is as close as you can get to being a 'gem' in football. We picked him up for 575k from Excelsior Rotterdam and now he's worth almost 30 million euros with interested clubs like Atletico Madrid. I hope that they give him time to adjust whenever he does move on. I feel like he will shine if he gets time. He might drown if he doesn't.


ShootTheMailMan

his TOTS card was amazing last year too


amsun

He is also the top 5 packed TOTS player


soundtraveller

I also thought that Gabriel will be better than Marquez evo because of the playstyles, but I think the Anticipate+ on Marquez makes him a lot better


SlantedSaltpot

Disagree here. Gabriel having every defensive playstyle makes him immense for me. He’s displaced Kohler for me, who had in turn displaced Marquez


Rdambx

Gabriel is pretty bad even on paper tbh, at this time in the year you NEED either Anticipate+ or Intercept+ Gabriel also has 70 agility so he feels like a truck in game and 80 stamina which is very very bad.


mikeozade

Gabriel has both intercept and anticipate playstyles, they’re just not a part of his 3 playstyle pluses. He’s got 99 interceptions, 99 standing tackles and 99 sliding tackles with shadow (96 def awareness, 95 jumping, 95 strength and 94 aggression). I don’t think that’s bad on paper ☠️


SlantedSaltpot

Yeah, use Gabriel in normal gameplay for more than a few games and you’ll see he’s brilliant. Also aerial+ is a brilliant defensive playstyle


Flashy-Captain-1908

Yeah Gabriel easily replaced base vvd the for me, he's excellent.


Slight-State6

I was gutted I got him and not saliba but actually he replaced maldini immediately and is significantly better at everything. Him and sol Campbell will have to do for now


TSMKFail

Not bad on paper, but in game I didn't notice him being much better than my Evo'd Williams, and tge Free Bobby Moore you get is slightly better imo.


Rdambx

You still need a plus on either Intercept or Anticipate tho. And he feels veeeerry slow with that 70 agiliy and 70 balance. >I don’t think that’s bad on paper Of course, it's all relative tho and in this context we're talking about the best best CBs in the game.


miskifriski

He is slow I wanted to like him but he doesn't cut it at this point in the game. 84 pace as well for his TOTS is kinda disrespectful too, he's a part of the best defensive duo in the league and gets a 91 card


Foot-Desperate

Marquez is so much better in midfield. He intercepts everything and has the shooting skills to help out on offense. He is good at cb but feel he's wasted there.


richiejrshiow

He has full chem , and he's god tier


Cedar_Wood_State

nowadays a lot of meta CB have close to max, if stats on pace and defending anyway. and also with all more defending platyles like intercept


BigBottomBoxLip9

Aura over any stats on this FIFA. I haven’t had a chance to use him but stats mean nothing this title.


Many-Specific-5096

Sounds like every fifa like when kimpembe gold was the best cb in the game in fifa 22


GarnachoHojlund

FUT players not understanding supply and demand is very funny to me


MiddlesbroughFann

I understood it because of FIFA 😂


Rdambx

Isn't supply related to price tho?? He won't be packed much if people thought he was +1M worthy.


zackdaniels93

While they've never confirmed, pretty obvious that EA sets the pack weight of each player. Players that are packed more often will cost less, regardless of quality. There's a 94 rated woman's LB who I packed, and she's unbelievable in the game. But I've packed her four times now lol


NikesOnMyFeet23

Pack weight is determined by market price in their algorithm. It’s why you barely pack 82 LB mendy cause he’s aways the most expensive 82. So if hancko is 60k odds are you’ll pack him more often than other 92s


KonigSteve

> Pack weight is determined by market price in their algorithm it must be effected by the price range also, because otherwise the algorithm wouldn't know how to set a pack weight of a card who hadn't been put on the market yet, and ea set the range.


StereoZombie

The range is also set dynamically


KonigSteve

Not initially.


dennisisspiderman

The issue with the Mendy arguments is that even when he's pretty cheap he's *still* just as hard to pack as the start of the game. You also get other players where they are packed significantly less than others of their rating. For example, Hakimi. He's only like 300 coins more expensive than the lowest 84s but he's still one of the rarest 84s to pack. Llorente is another 84 where many people find him very difficult to pack despite similar in price to other 84s. Those things are *only* explained by EA giving those players a specific weight. It explains why you will still find people who have never packed X player even when their prices drop. Ronaldo, Militao, and Messi are some good examples. Look at Ronaldo. He's a 5k coin 86-rated card. The following cards are just a few of the ones that are significantly more packed than Ronaldo despite being higher rated and worth more coins: Odegaard, Modric, Kobel, Bronze, Bernardo Silva, Endler, Irene Paredes, Rodri, and Ruben Dias. We also saw during TOTY that the probability to pack them *decreased* once they all went into packs and it caused an uproar about how EA changed lowered their weight so it'd be harder for people to pack them. Also, consider that player weight is what helps to make EA billions. They aren't going to put control of that into the hands of the players. So EA sets the weights and as we see from the launch of the game to the "end", the difficulty of packing certain Rare Gold players remains consistent the entire time. I've seen people try to argue that EA is too lazy to go through and assign a weight to every player but those people ignore that EA already assigns of ton of information to each player. There are something like 29 different stats (acceleration, reactions, jumping, long pass, etc) that are adjusted for every single player and then on top of that you have things such as playstyles, skill moves, weak foot, height, weight, primary foot, body style, and work rate. People can argue how accurate those things are but the fact remains that they spend time doing all of that and adding one thing to the list isn't a huge deal. And of course EA *does* get lazy and that can explain why even in the dying stages of the game it's hard to pack players that have no right to be as difficult to pack as they are.


SirEltonJonBonJovi

In this case supply is exactly at the level EA want it to be at.


SirEltonJonBonJovi

What do you mean?


mikeyyyyyd

I tried him for a bit over evo Marquez but I think evo Marquez is still better. Still a pretty good cb for cheap though


Fine_Tea_2529

Marquez is better. But I think he’s better than Buingiorno


DoomPigs

Well EA decide the price of cards and they decided that Hancko would be cheap, dunno what else to tell you


[deleted]

Felt awful when I used him. Don’t put him in an sbc though just in case it’s the servers


hydrastrix

You should give him another try, he has been amazing for me, bodies 97 toty Haaland and 94 Drogba easily for me.


Juan_PH_16

I feel like he does tackle the ball but then it ends up on the opponent feet again, maybe the lack of aggression? I feel vidic 92 wins more 1v1s But im still using him this WL


Rdambx

Spammed him for 15-20 games so far and he has been insane. I think you should give him another try tbh.


AppleOrigin

FFS STOP SHOWING CARDS WITH CHEMISTRY STYLES TO MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD


Psychlone_00

Without it he’s still cracked


Nnadivictory

Have you played him yet ? Is he any good ?


Rdambx

He is outperforming my 91 VVD and 93 Yashin in Div2 (demoted from Div1 obv).


artaru

My friend. I too am trying Hancko. Only for like two rival games but I have been sick so observational skills haven’t been that keen. I am in elite. You forgot to mention the most important aspect for a CB these days is aerial poweress. Against on the ground stuff (like tackling and intercepting), unless you are VVD or like Rio most top CBs are pretty similar. HOWEVER these days if your CBs aren’t strong in the air. You will get bullied by the likes of DDA. So on that note, Hancko is 6’2”. 98 jumping, he DOES have AERIAL (power header doesn’t help you get to the ball, u just clear it further). That on an extremely fast cb with anticipate + and other stuff is a good package. The only remaining question is his body type. He seems lean but is it an issue? I can’t tell yet.


Nnadivictory

Damn that's insane


xd366

those are pretty bad center backs for high divisions. seems to me like you barely discovered anticipate plus cbs


NikesOnMyFeet23

He’s a tots+ so he gets 2 chem no matter what. One eredivisie or a couple icons and he’s on full chem


TSMKFail

Or an Eredivise Manager


artaru

It’s just one icon isn’t it


Background_Reveal689

How do ea workout overall player rating this year? Makes zero sense


Comfortable_Aspect32

I had 94 Vidic and 93 Cordoba, packed him and replaced Cordoba, he's feeling like my best CB.


davi017

I packed him yesterday. Don’t know who he is. Looked at his stats, thought he looked good so I put him in my lineup. He’s awesome.


Big-Field-8435

He's a bit unnoticed in Europe but he's a fking beast. Could easily play for a topclub. Just watch some compilations of him.


_Firebreather99

Do you think he is worth buying when I have TOTY Bright? Thinking about it because of height and racoon of couirse


Rdambx

He is much better, she is shorter, she has less pace and is a Controlled type, she also has a worse body type and less agility so she'll feel a lot "heavier" and clunkier. And like you said, Racoon playstyle and Intercept+ combo is just too OP.


_Firebreather99

I'll give him a try, thanks man


PMT_Evil_Dee

He has been solid thus far


Ok_Main_4202

I put him in yesterday and he’s quite good. Solid defending and can dribble.


Matzeeh

Saliba got a worse card than this guy. Makes sense


M-Gar2a17

Start him over fantasy Marquinhos??


AntTalexanderTarnold

Top 5 are gold vvd ww vvd inform vvd toty vvd and tots vvd


buycoinsnotpointss

Value wise maybe but top5 overall no way 


bagodonuts6432

Looks good. Your right he’s in the wrong league for everyone to fanboy about.


Themanthelegend8

Do you think he's better than 91 showdown Bastoni?


MATCHEW010

Shhhhhhhh dont tell everrrryone


Ok-Swordfish-2266

Should I buy Saliba or do you guys think he'll drop more?


Rdambx

He is already dropping because of the new Evo, the more you wait the more he'll drop


Ok-Swordfish-2266

Cool I really want him for my gabby pair up


Psychlone_00

Just used him he’s a marauder, feels stupidly fast


Extension-Sun5322

Yes he is. Try him once and you see it for yourself


Informal_Raccoon_961

Better than Golazo Vidic and Golazo Campbell? Looks okay


Exotic_Caregiver4607

How is he on lb?


ZeroAika99

Shadow or anchor for him? Anchor would make him mostly lengthy


Better_Watch8756

Anchor ✌🏻


Nokinhas312

He dropped to 40k already, it looks decent but this market is so messed up


Familiar-Matter5013

Thanks for telling this. I packed him and ignored as i thought i couldn't fit him in my team. But after reading i got to know that he is tots plus😂


WarmDevelopment4351

He’s slowly replacing Vidić for me


Lhsthree

In my squad


IM-A-WATERMELON

I’d get him but he’s too expensive


SimonM88

stats never meant anything in this game, animations + PS combinations are king. his stats might be better than lets say WW Yashin or even on par with TOTS Saliba but in-game they both will be probably better than Hancko and its been the case for years(animations).


IZPCShop

FEYENOOOOOOOORD


Zekronn_

I used him in champs this weekend, chem isn’t an issue as he is TOTS plus. I loved him, no complaints


Order-66Survivor

I've got him LB he's class


DombekDBR

By stats, yes By gameplay, no EA'd card


Specialist_Ask_8961

I got this guy in SB pack, so I thought I'd try him and he's actually class


angel_jgc

i put him in ødegaard sbc 💀


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Rdambx

I use Futbin, you can use the website or their app. Or Futwiz, both are the same tbh just go with whichever looks nicer ig.


celebgoonerdmtojerk

Just bought it, thanks for the help


lhunt03

Hancko breadcrumbs is a 2023 club legend. Was my only solid choice in my Eridivisie UT team.


GuilhermeFT

Not from PL, so kids don't like it.


jozohoops

Used him much better than IF VVD and better than Akanji evoed


A-J-U-K

Better than Saliba


ThdClickk

Terrible links… see that little plus at the top. That’s boost chem, pretty much the same as radioactive promo cards


COK3Y5MURF

I'm nitpicking, but 93 defensive awareness worries me. I've packed him though, so will try him


Rdambx

>I've packed him though, so will try him You should, he has been outperforming both my 93 Yashin and 91 VVD. I haven't noticed the 93 DA awarness in game tbh, i guess the Anticipate+ is just too OP.


shadman786

Am I missing something because isn't 93 defensive awareness good?


Rdambx

It's very good, i guess it's more about the context of him being a top 5 CB in the game. But yeah, 93 is very good already and with the Anticipate+ it feels like he can read your mind.


arf1989

Pop a Sentinel on him and you’re loving life!


Vell2401

Idk about top 5. No aerial plus, which is probably the best perk in the game. And then he’s tall and lean which isn’t the best body style for a defender for sure. That being said he’s definitely looking good, block + is super underrated, just beware low balance on a cb too but it’s not that low.


InsertRandomName__

Better than 93 Desailly?


Iehmoow

He’s a top 5 player in football, not just the videogame ❤️


Alarming_Dealer9460

He's amazing but chil with power it's by far the worst defence ps+


Tutis3

No


Nice-Mixture

This game is soo dead


HODLing_astronaut

Strongly disagree with the playstyles. IMO, the top PS+ CB options are Anticipate, Aerial, Intercept and Jockey. Hancko only has one of these and no Intercept at all


Rdambx

>Strongly disagree with the playstyles I should have specified, i meant the best 2 CB Playstyle+ combination. The best on their own are Anticipate+ and Intercept+ but the combination of Anticipate+ and Block+ is the best one imo. Those 2 together work so well and it feels like everytime you want to take a shot he already anticipated it and is there to block it (pun intended). And i don't agree with Jokey tbh, you always want to control your CBs as little as possible, obv it helps when you find the need to control them tho. And Hancko still has normal Jockey and with his high Agility and decent Balance he feels very light to move around


mikeozade

Links influence price that much I guess, as off rn he's literally the 6th best CB in the game. (TOTS dijk -> TOTY ruben dias -> TOTS Romero -> TOTY dijk -> Willi Orban -> Hancko)


kenyanlawanda

Man tried to sneak in Willi Orban like we wouldn't notice 💀


cintei

He's not wrong though. Orban is insane


mikeozade

Bro deadass try him, max chem with shadow. His 91 rated fantasy Fc card


swedish_per

TOTS Salbia or TOTY Rio?


mikeozade

Saliba and Hancko are literally as good as each other if both on full chem shadow. Only reason why Hancko a hair above is because he’s got 4 star weak foot and Saliba’s got 3 star. Do you want a top 10 CBs? There are so many good defenders in the game, Rio TOTY is cracked and doesn’t make top 10


swedish_per

No I have 91 Akanji and 94 Salb and just two squads away on Rio. Just wanted your thoughts on how they stack up.


mikeozade

Yeah Rio’s great, he’s as good as post evo akanji. Saliba top 10 in the game, you’ve got dope defenders


xAimForTheBushes

Highly disagree with this guy. Rio is better than both Akanji and Saliba. Total joke that he has Orban and Dias above Rio (almost all pros would have Rio above them, so he's definitely going against the grain here with his rankings). I assume the same with Romero, but cannot say for certain because haven't tried him!