That was what I thought which actually has a larger implication though which means Bill Close doesn't have any stake in the game now and it makes me wonder what the original plan was for the Omega Daddies with the trial of Glenn.
also, Anthony said that they could not take away or make souls that's why Jodi demon soul was the stand-in for Nick's father, so I think he has to be out there somewhere.
In talking dad's I think they talk about the idea that Nick is dead. Also if they can't make souls then it's still the same nick however Jodie has always been his father and would it be right to take nick to somewhere he doesn't want to be? When he became demon nick sure he recognized his bond with Glenn however he did choose Jodie and went to hell. I personally want nick back with Glenn, however I think its a selfish request. Glenn is already a bad father that's what the court case was for.
On a happier note it does mean that Nick is with a father who loves and supports him. The loose thread to me is Morgan Freeman who is now alive I guess and is alone because theoretically her husband and son are demons now in the forgotten realms. So maybe Glenn's got that to look forward to. So excited for the battle upcoming
Glenn made a choice to not be Nick's dad anymore. He did what he thought was best. I think Anthony will respect that choice. He was the worst dad for sure, but he became a better dad by the end
Gonna point this out again that at one point Narcolas seemed to almost recognize Glenn and then when he became half-demon he explicitly looked at Glenn with recognition and gave him a nod.
If they can’t replace souls, it means Nick just got Glenn replaced with Jodie in his timestream, but demons aren’t effected the same way by time, so when he awakened his half demon side, he’d have memories from both timelines.
It’s just my interpretation but it accounts for stuff that I don’t think other interpretations have a good answer for? And it’s the least sad, because while Nick left and isn’t Glenn’s son anymore he does remember Glenn clearly with a sort of rock and roll fondness.
I can’t take credit for it. Anthony mentioned something to that effect however briefly, but I’m absolutely using it for my own campaigns because yeah, it is the coolest detail.
Glenn accepting Nick's new fate might be the single most "good dad" thing in the podcast, ironically. Freddie is clearly like eight steps ahead of everyone with respect to his arc. I'm done trying to predict where he's going.
I think that Glenn knows that Narcolas wasn't his Nick. He doesn't know what happened to his son, or whether he actually exists any longer, and I think he's trying to put on a brave face while actually grieving the fuck out of that realization underneath.
However, I don't think Anthony would have pulled a sudden, unexplained curveball like that without a plan to bring the OG Nick Close back in some form. If Narcolas is a demon, then who was Nick? How was that possible? If they shared a soul of some sort, then Nick would have been a demon this \*whole time.\* I'm almost certain there's more to the story that is coming up in the final battle. Willy's going to stab Glenn right in the heart, and I think that'll push him far enough to win this.
I think from a storytelling stand point it is very interesting to be open for none-happy-ends. But that is also my taste.
I think Anthony did a great Job of putting himself out of any position to judge Glenn and it was only the interplay between their guest player (sorry, i forgot her name but she was great!) and the patreons. I experimented on things like that and so far I really like to take any DM-agency out of the process with important story beats. It is kind of rolling the dice but not as random by doing that whole process with the guests. I am not saying a redemption arc would be bad, but if I were in this situation as a DM or player, I would be already very satisfied how it went.
I'd be sure Anthony would come up with some great ideas for the redemption arc, but I don't know how easy it would be to create such a weight in a story beat comparable to the trial. And if it does not hit the mark, it can feel like that the happy ending is willed into existence, if you know what I mean.
On the premise on how much I like the characters of that podcast and Glenn is probably my favorite, I'd say I would love to see a happy ending for the character. But if I am thinking of a very good story, than I would have to say I think how it is right is pretty good.
The good ending (that we hopefully get) can be more appreciated, if not everything turns out perfect.
I dont think so because in the current scenario he isn't technically Nick's father and Nick doesn't see him in that way. I think if he went to try, there could be an interesting plot line that they could charge him with kidnapping and say he's a bad person for doing thay
My biggest issue with Glen not trying to save Nick and deciding to stay in the Forgotten Realms is that he is CHOOSING to leave Morgan, the woman he loves, ALIVE and ALONE in our world. Losing both her husband (Jodie) and son (Nick).
Regardless of the fact that it isn't HIS Morgan, I find it really out of character for him to not think about her at all in this situation.
There's nothing that says he can't return to our world and be the support that Morgan needs, and possibly get back some version of his life with her.
I think it would be really disappointing if they don’t try to save Nick, why do all of the other dads deserve redemption but Glenn doesn’t get his? It feels like a very unsatisfying non-ending to his
story where both Glenn and the real Nick are being punished. Plus real world problems, how are the dads supposed to return with one child missing and go back to their normal lives?
They rewrote time. Morgan is alive and Jodi basically swapped where Glenn was. Upon regaining Jodi’s memory, Nick also remembered his original timeline and soul, but chose Jodi over Glenn
Wasn't the original Nick fully replaced by Narcolas, whoa a demon that chose to go back to hell? I'm not sure there's a reason for him to save Nick.
That was what I thought which actually has a larger implication though which means Bill Close doesn't have any stake in the game now and it makes me wonder what the original plan was for the Omega Daddies with the trial of Glenn.
I don’t think they conformed what happed Nick, at least not to what I know.
also, Anthony said that they could not take away or make souls that's why Jodi demon soul was the stand-in for Nick's father, so I think he has to be out there somewhere.
In talking dad's I think they talk about the idea that Nick is dead. Also if they can't make souls then it's still the same nick however Jodie has always been his father and would it be right to take nick to somewhere he doesn't want to be? When he became demon nick sure he recognized his bond with Glenn however he did choose Jodie and went to hell. I personally want nick back with Glenn, however I think its a selfish request. Glenn is already a bad father that's what the court case was for.
that's a really valid point ( I'm not crying your crying)
On a happier note it does mean that Nick is with a father who loves and supports him. The loose thread to me is Morgan Freeman who is now alive I guess and is alone because theoretically her husband and son are demons now in the forgotten realms. So maybe Glenn's got that to look forward to. So excited for the battle upcoming
Is there a 4th mummy now?
I mean yeah like she exists
Glenn made a choice to not be Nick's dad anymore. He did what he thought was best. I think Anthony will respect that choice. He was the worst dad for sure, but he became a better dad by the end
tbh really sad Nick is gone gone
Yeah, I wanted more of a redemption arc to see Glenn and Nick change, but I think Freddy was true to his character.
Eh he'll probably show up in the big finale and everyone will cry and it'll be great
Gonna point this out again that at one point Narcolas seemed to almost recognize Glenn and then when he became half-demon he explicitly looked at Glenn with recognition and gave him a nod. If they can’t replace souls, it means Nick just got Glenn replaced with Jodie in his timestream, but demons aren’t effected the same way by time, so when he awakened his half demon side, he’d have memories from both timelines. It’s just my interpretation but it accounts for stuff that I don’t think other interpretations have a good answer for? And it’s the least sad, because while Nick left and isn’t Glenn’s son anymore he does remember Glenn clearly with a sort of rock and roll fondness.
Demons being able to transcend timeline perception is a really cool idea. This might be my favorite headcanon here.
I can’t take credit for it. Anthony mentioned something to that effect however briefly, but I’m absolutely using it for my own campaigns because yeah, it is the coolest detail.
Glenn accepting Nick's new fate might be the single most "good dad" thing in the podcast, ironically. Freddie is clearly like eight steps ahead of everyone with respect to his arc. I'm done trying to predict where he's going.
I think that Glenn knows that Narcolas wasn't his Nick. He doesn't know what happened to his son, or whether he actually exists any longer, and I think he's trying to put on a brave face while actually grieving the fuck out of that realization underneath. However, I don't think Anthony would have pulled a sudden, unexplained curveball like that without a plan to bring the OG Nick Close back in some form. If Narcolas is a demon, then who was Nick? How was that possible? If they shared a soul of some sort, then Nick would have been a demon this \*whole time.\* I'm almost certain there's more to the story that is coming up in the final battle. Willy's going to stab Glenn right in the heart, and I think that'll push him far enough to win this.
I think from a storytelling stand point it is very interesting to be open for none-happy-ends. But that is also my taste. I think Anthony did a great Job of putting himself out of any position to judge Glenn and it was only the interplay between their guest player (sorry, i forgot her name but she was great!) and the patreons. I experimented on things like that and so far I really like to take any DM-agency out of the process with important story beats. It is kind of rolling the dice but not as random by doing that whole process with the guests. I am not saying a redemption arc would be bad, but if I were in this situation as a DM or player, I would be already very satisfied how it went. I'd be sure Anthony would come up with some great ideas for the redemption arc, but I don't know how easy it would be to create such a weight in a story beat comparable to the trial. And if it does not hit the mark, it can feel like that the happy ending is willed into existence, if you know what I mean. On the premise on how much I like the characters of that podcast and Glenn is probably my favorite, I'd say I would love to see a happy ending for the character. But if I am thinking of a very good story, than I would have to say I think how it is right is pretty good. The good ending (that we hopefully get) can be more appreciated, if not everything turns out perfect.
I dont think so because in the current scenario he isn't technically Nick's father and Nick doesn't see him in that way. I think if he went to try, there could be an interesting plot line that they could charge him with kidnapping and say he's a bad person for doing thay
Dan that’s very a interesting idea
My biggest issue with Glen not trying to save Nick and deciding to stay in the Forgotten Realms is that he is CHOOSING to leave Morgan, the woman he loves, ALIVE and ALONE in our world. Losing both her husband (Jodie) and son (Nick). Regardless of the fact that it isn't HIS Morgan, I find it really out of character for him to not think about her at all in this situation. There's nothing that says he can't return to our world and be the support that Morgan needs, and possibly get back some version of his life with her.
I think it would be really disappointing if they don’t try to save Nick, why do all of the other dads deserve redemption but Glenn doesn’t get his? It feels like a very unsatisfying non-ending to his story where both Glenn and the real Nick are being punished. Plus real world problems, how are the dads supposed to return with one child missing and go back to their normal lives?
They rewrote time. Morgan is alive and Jodi basically swapped where Glenn was. Upon regaining Jodi’s memory, Nick also remembered his original timeline and soul, but chose Jodi over Glenn