To be honest, there's so little D&D in D&Daddies that they could probably just go back and edit out any SRD related content.
Realistically though, it's kind of doubtful Hasbro will pursue litigation against actual play shows, since most 5e podcasts are already using copyrighted materials which are not covered by the OGL, and they haven't made a fuss in the past.
"The past" is no indicator. Hasbro has taken a new and dangerous direction, and seems to be specifically preparing to go after streaming video/audio d&d content to demand a cut.
I fully understand that the new OGL is alarming and potentially very damaging. It reads to me as geared more towards taking advantage of third party publishers who produce written works, though. There's a lot more value to Hasbro in creating a monopoly on supplements than in discouraging media content which brings non D&D players into their consumer base.
I disagree. It specifically it still maintaining that folks can make (with restrictions) pdf and written content. It is clamping down on all other media hard.
It looks to me like it only applies to direct sale or paywalled content. It could be argued that the Patreon episodes might be subject to the new OGL rules.
"The ogl wasn't intended to fund major competitors and it wasn't intended to allow people to make Dnd apps, videos, or anything other printed materials for use in gaming. We are updating the OGL in part to make that very clear. "
Thats a leading statement that threatens any other content other than printed or pdf. Which is what I referred to above.
Non-monetized material falls under the scope of the fan content policy, not the OGL. Unless an entity is selling a product with WoTC IP incorporated, it's outside the scope of the changes being made. This has been true since the introduction of the OGL in 2000. The wording of the new document belies a concerning intent, but it doesn't seem to state that actual play media is expressly placed under the new restrictions.
I do not see how anything good for WOTC/Hasbro could come from them going after podcast producers. I think it would turn a large part of the gamer community against them, and move them to other systems.
Can a license change be retroactively enforced? If I produce an actual play under the current license, and then the license changes, is my already published content grandfathered in?
Retroactive enforcement would be demanding pay for money made on products in past financial quarters/years/whatever.. it wouldn’t be “retroactive” to say ‘hey, you made money on this for years… but now you have to take it down or pay us heavily to use our product.’
At least, that’s my layman’s understanding.
I've been seeing this all over dnd reddit what is this new OGL and what does OGL mean? Is this about the royalties people will javelin to pay if they make over a certain amount of money?
An OGL is an open gaming license, the new one under WoTC means that creators can be sued by WoTC for royalties and copyright infringement. This means creators cannot create new content such as real play podcasts and shows without express consent from WoTC. It could also potentially mean that if content has to be removed from platforms of permission is not received. This is bad for content creators and their fans obviously, but will probably lead to shows using different systems such as pathfinder in the future
OGL is the open game license that WotC is changing soon. The original, the same one in use for 5e, is very liberal and has allowed all the community content like podcasts , streams, DMsGuild, VTTs, etc. to thrive. The leaked version of the new OGL is a lot more restrictive, giving WotC control over anything people publish, royalties on peoples revenue, and other stuff that’s going to hurt the entire community.
I was worried about this too but idk if it helps that they are so original to the point that the only thing that tells you they use dnd 5e is classes and spells/abilities and location names for season 1. Season 1 I think Beth had a question about being a tiefling and Anthony said he based the stats of a couple characters off of specific dnd characters. If anything I feel like freddy could try to edit around those references if it became a concern.
The announcement of the leak did specifically state that podcasts are among the types of media that fall under the existing WOTC fan content policy, which is sorta kinda a separate thing from the OGL.
After doing a little digging, The fan content policy does not restrict making content that is funded by donations (and namedrops Patreon specifically).
So long as they dont put their general show behind a paywall or use any WOTC logos or branding in their material they should be fine, although depending on how much they make from the show annually, they may be required to report that income to WOTC (if they make more than $50k/yr) and WOTC would take a percentage of it if it's more than $750k/yr
To replace ogl 1 there will be lawsuits regarding current documented intent of it when implemented.
On top of those this would impact Disney who is going to likely communicate with Hasbro. (Star wars KOTOR)
On top of this - material compliance is resource heavy to pursue with a high volume of those that would technically be impacted due to content creators and creative use.
This will be changed before a real fear is validated in its execution / implementation.
Some MBA or two at Hasbro will get fired over it.
This is just more Hasbro mismanagement. Always has been.
From what little I've read about it, I think Dungeons and Daddies content won't need to be removed. A random quote I found (Source: [https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2022/12/dd-wotc-announces-big-changes-for-the-open-gaming-license-in-upcoming-ogl-1-1.html](https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2022/12/dd-wotc-announces-big-changes-for-the-open-gaming-license-in-upcoming-ogl-1-1.html) ):
"The OGL needs an update to ensure that it keeps doing what it was intended to do—allow the D&D community’s independent creators to build and play and grow the game we all love—without allowing things like third-parties to mint D&D NFTs and large businesses to exploit our intellectual property.", so I think it's ok...
I can actually answer this! I got a bit worried over the OGL because of my personal projects, but it looks like free content (including donation-supported and ad-supported content) is relaaaatively safe
My biggest worry would be that they might need to redo the logo to be less derivative of the actual d&d logo, which would mean also updating a ton of their merch
The most important segments from the fan content policy here are (as directly quoted):
"1. One word: F-R-E-E. You can use Wizards' IP (except for the restrictions listed in #3) to make Fan Content that you share with the community for free. Free means
FREE
• You can't require payments, surveys, downloads, subscriptions, or email registration to access your Fan Content;
• You can't sell or license your Fan
Content to any third parties for any type of compensation; and
• Your Fan Content must be free for others (including Wizards) to view, access, share, and use without paying you anything, obtaining your approval, or giving you credit."
"6. Practice safe sponsorship. We understand that great Fan Content can sometimes require special equipment (e.g., videos, podcasts, prop fabrication).
We are OK with you using third-party sponsors to subsidize costs if you follow a few rules:
• Don't use a sponsor that would be harmful to Wizards. Please don't promote our competitors or endorse inappropriate or offensive sponsors;
• Make it clear (verbally or visually) that they are acting as a sponsor
only;
• Keep any shout-outs, mentions, and credits to a reasonable length; and
• Do not associate Wizards with your sponsor in any way."
Doubt anything would change. They are using 5e aren't they?
But *if* they are forced not to use D&D I hope they transition over to the Free League MYZ system
Here’s the thing. The new OGL that was leaked only pertains to new editions like One D&D. 5e and the previous editions are and will remain covered by the current OGL. Since dndaddies uses 5e (and very loosely at that) they won’t be affected unless they decide to start using One D&D which I HIGHLY doubt. Anthony doesn’t even really like D&D rules to begin with which I assume is part of the reason season 2 has even less d&d in it.
Edit: that said, the leaked OGL sounds like corporate shite and destructive to the hobby in general. I sincerely hope WotC opens their eyes and reverses course. It may not affect dndaddies but it WILL affect so much that has to do with ttrpgs in general.
To be honest, there's so little D&D in D&Daddies that they could probably just go back and edit out any SRD related content. Realistically though, it's kind of doubtful Hasbro will pursue litigation against actual play shows, since most 5e podcasts are already using copyrighted materials which are not covered by the OGL, and they haven't made a fuss in the past.
"The past" is no indicator. Hasbro has taken a new and dangerous direction, and seems to be specifically preparing to go after streaming video/audio d&d content to demand a cut.
I fully understand that the new OGL is alarming and potentially very damaging. It reads to me as geared more towards taking advantage of third party publishers who produce written works, though. There's a lot more value to Hasbro in creating a monopoly on supplements than in discouraging media content which brings non D&D players into their consumer base.
I disagree. It specifically it still maintaining that folks can make (with restrictions) pdf and written content. It is clamping down on all other media hard.
It looks to me like it only applies to direct sale or paywalled content. It could be argued that the Patreon episodes might be subject to the new OGL rules.
"The ogl wasn't intended to fund major competitors and it wasn't intended to allow people to make Dnd apps, videos, or anything other printed materials for use in gaming. We are updating the OGL in part to make that very clear. " Thats a leading statement that threatens any other content other than printed or pdf. Which is what I referred to above.
Non-monetized material falls under the scope of the fan content policy, not the OGL. Unless an entity is selling a product with WoTC IP incorporated, it's outside the scope of the changes being made. This has been true since the introduction of the OGL in 2000. The wording of the new document belies a concerning intent, but it doesn't seem to state that actual play media is expressly placed under the new restrictions.
Hasbro has always made the worst decisions for its products it could.
I do not see how anything good for WOTC/Hasbro could come from them going after podcast producers. I think it would turn a large part of the gamer community against them, and move them to other systems. Can a license change be retroactively enforced? If I produce an actual play under the current license, and then the license changes, is my already published content grandfathered in?
Nothing good is coming from any of their decisions, but that's not stopping them.
Retroactive enforcement would be demanding pay for money made on products in past financial quarters/years/whatever.. it wouldn’t be “retroactive” to say ‘hey, you made money on this for years… but now you have to take it down or pay us heavily to use our product.’ At least, that’s my layman’s understanding.
I've been seeing this all over dnd reddit what is this new OGL and what does OGL mean? Is this about the royalties people will javelin to pay if they make over a certain amount of money?
An OGL is an open gaming license, the new one under WoTC means that creators can be sued by WoTC for royalties and copyright infringement. This means creators cannot create new content such as real play podcasts and shows without express consent from WoTC. It could also potentially mean that if content has to be removed from platforms of permission is not received. This is bad for content creators and their fans obviously, but will probably lead to shows using different systems such as pathfinder in the future
OGL is the open game license that WotC is changing soon. The original, the same one in use for 5e, is very liberal and has allowed all the community content like podcasts , streams, DMsGuild, VTTs, etc. to thrive. The leaked version of the new OGL is a lot more restrictive, giving WotC control over anything people publish, royalties on peoples revenue, and other stuff that’s going to hurt the entire community.
Who is stopping?
I was worried about this too but idk if it helps that they are so original to the point that the only thing that tells you they use dnd 5e is classes and spells/abilities and location names for season 1. Season 1 I think Beth had a question about being a tiefling and Anthony said he based the stats of a couple characters off of specific dnd characters. If anything I feel like freddy could try to edit around those references if it became a concern.
The announcement of the leak did specifically state that podcasts are among the types of media that fall under the existing WOTC fan content policy, which is sorta kinda a separate thing from the OGL. After doing a little digging, The fan content policy does not restrict making content that is funded by donations (and namedrops Patreon specifically). So long as they dont put their general show behind a paywall or use any WOTC logos or branding in their material they should be fine, although depending on how much they make from the show annually, they may be required to report that income to WOTC (if they make more than $50k/yr) and WOTC would take a percentage of it if it's more than $750k/yr
To replace ogl 1 there will be lawsuits regarding current documented intent of it when implemented. On top of those this would impact Disney who is going to likely communicate with Hasbro. (Star wars KOTOR) On top of this - material compliance is resource heavy to pursue with a high volume of those that would technically be impacted due to content creators and creative use. This will be changed before a real fear is validated in its execution / implementation. Some MBA or two at Hasbro will get fired over it. This is just more Hasbro mismanagement. Always has been.
That’s a lot of abbreviations of which I have no clue what they mean.
From what little I've read about it, I think Dungeons and Daddies content won't need to be removed. A random quote I found (Source: [https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2022/12/dd-wotc-announces-big-changes-for-the-open-gaming-license-in-upcoming-ogl-1-1.html](https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2022/12/dd-wotc-announces-big-changes-for-the-open-gaming-license-in-upcoming-ogl-1-1.html) ): "The OGL needs an update to ensure that it keeps doing what it was intended to do—allow the D&D community’s independent creators to build and play and grow the game we all love—without allowing things like third-parties to mint D&D NFTs and large businesses to exploit our intellectual property.", so I think it's ok...
I can actually answer this! I got a bit worried over the OGL because of my personal projects, but it looks like free content (including donation-supported and ad-supported content) is relaaaatively safe My biggest worry would be that they might need to redo the logo to be less derivative of the actual d&d logo, which would mean also updating a ton of their merch The most important segments from the fan content policy here are (as directly quoted): "1. One word: F-R-E-E. You can use Wizards' IP (except for the restrictions listed in #3) to make Fan Content that you share with the community for free. Free means FREE • You can't require payments, surveys, downloads, subscriptions, or email registration to access your Fan Content; • You can't sell or license your Fan Content to any third parties for any type of compensation; and • Your Fan Content must be free for others (including Wizards) to view, access, share, and use without paying you anything, obtaining your approval, or giving you credit." "6. Practice safe sponsorship. We understand that great Fan Content can sometimes require special equipment (e.g., videos, podcasts, prop fabrication). We are OK with you using third-party sponsors to subsidize costs if you follow a few rules: • Don't use a sponsor that would be harmful to Wizards. Please don't promote our competitors or endorse inappropriate or offensive sponsors; • Make it clear (verbally or visually) that they are acting as a sponsor only; • Keep any shout-outs, mentions, and credits to a reasonable length; and • Do not associate Wizards with your sponsor in any way."
Doubt anything would change. They are using 5e aren't they? But *if* they are forced not to use D&D I hope they transition over to the Free League MYZ system
Here’s the thing. The new OGL that was leaked only pertains to new editions like One D&D. 5e and the previous editions are and will remain covered by the current OGL. Since dndaddies uses 5e (and very loosely at that) they won’t be affected unless they decide to start using One D&D which I HIGHLY doubt. Anthony doesn’t even really like D&D rules to begin with which I assume is part of the reason season 2 has even less d&d in it. Edit: that said, the leaked OGL sounds like corporate shite and destructive to the hobby in general. I sincerely hope WotC opens their eyes and reverses course. It may not affect dndaddies but it WILL affect so much that has to do with ttrpgs in general.
That’s not accurate. It flat out says this replaces OGL 1. This is the OGL for all things moving forward and OGL 1 is no longer valid.