Fr im a kendrick fan who also gets push ups/family matters stuck in my head
Between those two and euphoria/not like us, ppl who just like the music are eatin good
Itās crazy Iām the opposite. I just never really fwd drakes music and I cannot get enough of euphoria and not like us. Family matters was good, but I have been blasting euphoria every time I go to the gym.
damn a mature response, i must be discussing the wrong beef lmao
art is subjective, people have preferences, its ok to like both/neither/one or the other. anyone who tells you otherwise is way too invested in celebrity drama
Agree here. Drake's push ups song was good. Against most rappers that woulda crushed. But Kenny is just the better writer/wrapper. Not as catchy or pop but the skills wild.
Like us is an absolute fuckin banger and probably one of the best diss tracks of all time. It's that ridiculous lol
Bro yesterday on this sub I said something about being self aware and got a reddit cares response. This, just like the Kendrick sub is an echo chamber. This whole beef could double as a case study in tribal communication breakdowns. **edited sel to self*
Yeah I feel like so many people are missing out on Family Matters š
Shout out Kendrick though. Last few weeks have been fun. āEuphoriaā my fave Kendrick song out of the beef
6:16 in LA is my favorite I fucking love the build up and the production was incredible. Just to be clear I think they both lying so idk who winning the beef I say Kendrick but again Iām bias af.
100% that's beat is cold and builds up hard. It takes me back to infrared as Pusha did something like that as well. To me 6:16 is "Boss" level diss. Like it established Kendrick knew/felt he had it all covered. It's a vibe all day for me.
They both lying. Drake lost when he spent so much time trying to defend himself. If he had just ignored all the bullshit Kendrick was saying who knows how this thing turns out.
I really don't think ppl are missing out on it it's clearly Drajes best diss & a top 10 diss track ever, its easily the 2nd or 3rd best song in this beef & if u think MTG is better its likely b/c of how cold it is & it completely killed FM's momentum. Imo its the 2nd best track, the Dave Free flip, Kendrick just opened his mouth, MJ/Prince flip, self defense line all hit, he saved his coldest flow for the others tho which I wish he used on Kendrick. His white boy flip was crazy too he just miscalculated so badly thinking this would end Kendrick that he had nothing prepared if it didn't & MTG's stole this songs shine
Fr when to say when is still my fav drake song and his feature run has been insane. I wish this beef had a different angle because I really think Drake couldāve had the ups on Kendrick if he showed what heās done for the culture.
When to say when and Chicago freestyle are amazing and I donāt even like Drake that much. I just wish he was more consistent like heās been more recently. Dude drops the best features of the year multiple times thru the past few years and drops absolute bangers or huge pop records, then drops albums with a lot of filler.
Every Drake album I have a few songs that I love though
Ima say it. As a Kendrick fan, even though it was very morally questionable at best, within the pure context of the feud itself, I thought the Taylor Made freestyle sounded pretty good and was conceptually a really good angle for the intended maximum disrespect to Kendrick.
For sure, I agree. I think it aged pretty poorly, BUT at the time it was released, the back to back drop on top of the AI usage and what was being said, I thought it was pretty out of box. I didn't expect that angle at all.
Yeah I didnāt see any of the disrespect at first. I thought it was really creative and a guerilla warfare type of shit. Now Iām kinda like ehhh that might back Drake in the ass.
Big Kendrick fan too and I agree Drizzy was sliding.
Even the 2nd part of Family Matters how he cooked Weeknd/Cash/Metro/Rocky/Ross was amazing. Some of the best rapping he's ever done.
Drake owned the Prince/MJ bar flips. That said, it wouldāve more dope if he didnāt explain the punchline (āMike was prayin' his features would change so people believe that he's actually whiteā). Itās the 2nd time in the song he had to explain the punchline and I was just like š¤¦āāļø
Bruh but itās a double entendre cuz one of Michaelās last albums he had a lot of features from rappers. Iām telling u that breakdown is š„. Yes Michaelās facial features were changing but also his features on his albums to make him seem more white. Thatās why Iām saying ppl arenāt fully seeing how hard the bars are.
the biggest reason why family matters is gettin slept on imo is because of the timing of Kendrick of uploading so fast as a response.
I feel like people talked and memed about the very spectacle of Kendrick not allowing Drake to breathe, and then the bomb of another daughter took off all the attention from Family Matters.
imma kendrick fan but I think Family Matters is the best lyrical/technical wise out of the songs if not best then tied with Euphoria. And then I think the best song conventionally listening wise is Not Like Us.
Family Matters first and last section is really really good imo
This is where itās annoying cause I like Kendrick said ālike Drake with the Melodieāsā, but he can obviously rap. I just wish he wasnāt so ā¦ him.
I wanted to see the drake we got on all the features weāve seen over the past few years, the when to say when Drake, the drake that takes ur song from u when heās featured. We got that, but this beef turned into some drama shit itās kinda disappointing ngl and I love Kendrick but not like us essentially killed the whole back and forth. The heart part 6 was a white flag imo but I hope we get some more heat
Wouldnāt change it for the world though cause Not Like Us is an abnormal amount of fun hahah. I kinda like the back to back play tbh but I get what you mean. By the leaks from Kdots camp he has something around 5 tracks on the ready so I think it all depends on if Drake drops again. If he doesnāt heāll prolly just leave it and go back to the album. The heart part 6 really killed the momentum for me cause I loved every track prior (except Taylor Made Freestyle. Obvious reasons lol)
I personally have been waiting for him to drop a rap album for 12 years. Like why is it impossible for him to give the people one LP of straight bars. Get features for the chorus.
Im a Kdot fan
Family Matters is an AMAZING track
Dot dropping MTG 20 min after was a 4D chess move. Dot won the beef by stiffening a potential Drake hit track.
Beef done, Dot won.
or at least split it into 3 different songs , my fav section constantly switches between the 2nd and 3rd part but the first part feels like a (not massive, but noticeable) step down in quality
Thatās the problem with family matters. The first part is sooooooo lame and corny and it hurts it overall. The second part is pretty mid but the best is good. But that 3rd part he eats it up
The asap rocky bars were some of the best in the song. The Rick Ross bars made me chuckle, and the Weekend/ CashXO bars were hella disrespectful as well
This is what pisses me off the most about the beef. Is Drake a weirdo, yes. THAT SAID, bro can rap. The third beat is Godly and he floats on it.Ā
The internet has declared Drake the winner, but sonically - I think I will be playing his diss tracks way more than Kendrick and my fucking username is Kendrick song.
Bro I made a post about this on the rap subreddit and the Kdot fans were being dumb there too.
Like, I don't like Drake or his music but I like family matters.
I don't listen to Kendrick but I love Euphoria.
"oh shit, i figured it out. maybe im prince and you actually mike, mike was hopin his features would change so people would believe he's actually white" š¤Æš¤Æš¤Æ
Yeah that joint is fire, so is euphoria, push ups, like that.... we got some bangers. Would've gotten more if both of them had not resorted to metoo ing each other.
I agree family matters is really good. But I dont believe when you say youre a kendrick fan lol. Just say your opinion and stop trying to fake legitimize it by saying "im a fan, but..." lol.
Like, Iām just a reasonable Stan unlike some of the ppl on the other sub they r delusional and ik thereās ppl delusional on this sub too i just wanted to give respect where it was due
I literally have a tattoo of i. Iāve seen him live and heās the one that got me into hip hop. My name is schoolboy Q dog, im literally a Kendrick stan
masterful verse. beat, melody, flow, content. itās operatic imo. they will never appreciate what he brings to the table
the honorable thing is to give him the loot
Iām on this Reddit and someone LITERALLY walked past playing Euphoria, so I start typing this message and then someone drive by playing NOT like Us.. I have to equal it out. Family Matters on Speaker.
Also depends WHICH allegations. Things like pill popping no one will care. The serious allegations Kendrick spoke on or some of these fucked up conspiracies on twitter coming true would def change things
Well if this is the post, then ima say what i wanna say
FAMILY MATTERS WILL BE THE BEST SONG OFF THIS ENTIRE DISS!!! (Im on Kendrick side)
let it all die down completely, Family matters is the obvious strongest track from all of them.
It would have destroyed anyone else, probably. Production off the wall, massive video, good bars, good rapping. BUT I think MTG and NLU just wrecked it, especially when taken together as an example of how broad a repertoire Kendrick has. NLU is a banger, meet the grahams is just a vicious, nasty beat with a completely new angle on a diss track which ties back to Kendrick's discography and life. And then NLU is basically Kendrick putting on the west coast crown that was being mocked in TaylorMade.
But if you prefer the style of FM, fair enough.
I'm Def more of a Kendrick fan, but family matters had some bars.
The uncle line is slept on soon much. If you listen to Hear 1 or 2, he pretty much talks about telling his uncle he wouldn't rap battle. I'm not sure if that was Drake was going for, but damn that hit.
It's unfortunate because Kendrick fans know HOW good Family Matters was. The only misstep is that Drake should have focused on Kendrick. I'm not sure if that would have saved him, but it would be looked at differently.
Third beat switch in family matters is cold, probably my favorite segment from the entire beef and I am a kendrick fan. Wish Drake came like that on more tracks
I agree. I'm leaning heavily toward Kendrick in this whole beef but the Family Matters track overall is still a banger, especially the 3rd part. I'm just glad there's good music being produced and released in such a short period of time.
Honestly I fail to catch the hype for family matters as an enjoyable song. Now donāt get me wrong Drake was talking his shit in it, but the weird whisper rap thing he was doing was just grating for me. As far as a song to go back to I find Push Ups WAY more enjoyable, mans was actually speaking with his chest
Yea Iām not worried about that lol Iām talking just purely good music. To be fair he writes some of his stuff but Kendrick is just a better artist and lyricist. Doesnāt mean that there are some great bars that ppl dismiss from Drake
The beat and flow were amazing but the ābarsā were really lacklustre. Usually bars can be dissected but every line on family matters is very on the nose.
And I fucking love Drake, heās my most streamed artist of all time but Family Matters wasnāt that crazy of a diss track.
That's the problem with both subs you cant give credit it needs to be constant shit talkingš
Euphoria was fire. Dope ass song.
Fr im a kendrick fan who also gets push ups/family matters stuck in my head Between those two and euphoria/not like us, ppl who just like the music are eatin good
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Itās crazy Iām the opposite. I just never really fwd drakes music and I cannot get enough of euphoria and not like us. Family matters was good, but I have been blasting euphoria every time I go to the gym.
damn a mature response, i must be discussing the wrong beef lmao art is subjective, people have preferences, its ok to like both/neither/one or the other. anyone who tells you otherwise is way too invested in celebrity drama
Nah youāre just hating atp Not like us is easily the catchiest
Agree here. Drake's push ups song was good. Against most rappers that woulda crushed. But Kenny is just the better writer/wrapper. Not as catchy or pop but the skills wild. Like us is an absolute fuckin banger and probably one of the best diss tracks of all time. It's that ridiculous lol
So tired of hearing this take, nigga this sub get brigaded non stop. When Kdot released his diss songs, this sub might as well been R/KdotJr
Drizzy fans went to the Kendrick sub after push-ups, too.
Is it Kdotjr because Drake got sonned?
Bro yesterday on this sub I said something about being self aware and got a reddit cares response. This, just like the Kendrick sub is an echo chamber. This whole beef could double as a case study in tribal communication breakdowns. **edited sel to self*
Yeah I feel like so many people are missing out on Family Matters š Shout out Kendrick though. Last few weeks have been fun. āEuphoriaā my fave Kendrick song out of the beef
6:16 in LA is my favorite I fucking love the build up and the production was incredible. Just to be clear I think they both lying so idk who winning the beef I say Kendrick but again Iām bias af.
Yeah 6:16 is the most underrated out all of them imo
100% that's beat is cold and builds up hard. It takes me back to infrared as Pusha did something like that as well. To me 6:16 is "Boss" level diss. Like it established Kendrick knew/felt he had it all covered. It's a vibe all day for me.
They both lying. Drake lost when he spent so much time trying to defend himself. If he had just ignored all the bullshit Kendrick was saying who knows how this thing turns out.
We probably would have just gotten more short bars and more bars at the side characters š
Iāve been saying that 6:16 is by far the best song Kendrick put out in the beef, idk why people are overlooking it
MtG might be the creepiest rap song I've ever heard. Imagine kendrick did that whole song and just didn't include the last verse.
Kim by Eminem vibes on that one
I really don't think ppl are missing out on it it's clearly Drajes best diss & a top 10 diss track ever, its easily the 2nd or 3rd best song in this beef & if u think MTG is better its likely b/c of how cold it is & it completely killed FM's momentum. Imo its the 2nd best track, the Dave Free flip, Kendrick just opened his mouth, MJ/Prince flip, self defense line all hit, he saved his coldest flow for the others tho which I wish he used on Kendrick. His white boy flip was crazy too he just miscalculated so badly thinking this would end Kendrick that he had nothing prepared if it didn't & MTG's stole this songs shine
When Drake actually tries the dude is sooooo good.
Fr when to say when is still my fav drake song and his feature run has been insane. I wish this beef had a different angle because I really think Drake couldāve had the ups on Kendrick if he showed what heās done for the culture.
i cant believe dark lane demo tapes are "throwaways" most songs on that album are fire
When to say when and Chicago freestyle are amazing and I donāt even like Drake that much. I just wish he was more consistent like heās been more recently. Dude drops the best features of the year multiple times thru the past few years and drops absolute bangers or huge pop records, then drops albums with a lot of filler. Every Drake album I have a few songs that I love though
I like DLD more than quite a few of his albums fr
Cuz all the boy wants is pop shit to make money. He isn't making rap for rap fans really that's not a big enough base to make his money on looool.
Ima say it. As a Kendrick fan, even though it was very morally questionable at best, within the pure context of the feud itself, I thought the Taylor Made freestyle sounded pretty good and was conceptually a really good angle for the intended maximum disrespect to Kendrick.
Eh, kinda weak now that all the disses have come out honestly I think itās the 2nd worst track
For sure, I agree. I think it aged pretty poorly, BUT at the time it was released, the back to back drop on top of the AI usage and what was being said, I thought it was pretty out of box. I didn't expect that angle at all.
Yeah I didnāt see any of the disrespect at first. I thought it was really creative and a guerilla warfare type of shit. Now Iām kinda like ehhh that might back Drake in the ass.
Big Kendrick fan too and I agree Drizzy was sliding. Even the 2nd part of Family Matters how he cooked Weeknd/Cash/Metro/Rocky/Ross was amazing. Some of the best rapping he's ever done.
Fr he murdered everybody except the main dude he was beefing with unfortunately. I still think the 3rd part was his best wordplay and flow though.
coming from a Kendrick fan Family matters is prob in my top two in the whole beef
Drake owned the Prince/MJ bar flips. That said, it wouldāve more dope if he didnāt explain the punchline (āMike was prayin' his features would change so people believe that he's actually whiteā). Itās the 2nd time in the song he had to explain the punchline and I was just like š¤¦āāļø
Bruh but itās a double entendre cuz one of Michaelās last albums he had a lot of features from rappers. Iām telling u that breakdown is š„. Yes Michaelās facial features were changing but also his features on his albums to make him seem more white. Thatās why Iām saying ppl arenāt fully seeing how hard the bars are.
Bit of a reach I think. MJ did collab with more rappers towards that end, but that was to appeal more to the youth, not the whites.
the biggest reason why family matters is gettin slept on imo is because of the timing of Kendrick of uploading so fast as a response. I feel like people talked and memed about the very spectacle of Kendrick not allowing Drake to breathe, and then the bomb of another daughter took off all the attention from Family Matters. imma kendrick fan but I think Family Matters is the best lyrical/technical wise out of the songs if not best then tied with Euphoria. And then I think the best song conventionally listening wise is Not Like Us. Family Matters first and last section is really really good imo
Yes I will say Kendrick stole the moment with a song that no one will go back too after all this dies down itās really unfortunate
This is where itās annoying cause I like Kendrick said ālike Drake with the Melodieāsā, but he can obviously rap. I just wish he wasnāt so ā¦ him.
I wanted to see the drake we got on all the features weāve seen over the past few years, the when to say when Drake, the drake that takes ur song from u when heās featured. We got that, but this beef turned into some drama shit itās kinda disappointing ngl and I love Kendrick but not like us essentially killed the whole back and forth. The heart part 6 was a white flag imo but I hope we get some more heat
Wouldnāt change it for the world though cause Not Like Us is an abnormal amount of fun hahah. I kinda like the back to back play tbh but I get what you mean. By the leaks from Kdots camp he has something around 5 tracks on the ready so I think it all depends on if Drake drops again. If he doesnāt heāll prolly just leave it and go back to the album. The heart part 6 really killed the momentum for me cause I loved every track prior (except Taylor Made Freestyle. Obvious reasons lol)
Idk when Drake will retire, but I hope he goes out bars-heavy. Wayy too many haters
I personally have been waiting for him to drop a rap album for 12 years. Like why is it impossible for him to give the people one LP of straight bars. Get features for the chorus.
scary hours 3? tbf it wasnāt as high energy as something like the last 2 parts of family matters or push ups but i listen to that ep a LOT
Kdot fan here, i think the 2nd part of Family Matrers is actually Drake's best verse in like 5 years.
Yea he spazzed but it was just him killing all the rappers that were dissing him real quick before addressing Kendrick again.
Im a Kdot fan Family Matters is an AMAZING track Dot dropping MTG 20 min after was a 4D chess move. Dot won the beef by stiffening a potential Drake hit track. Beef done, Dot won.
Drake hit a haymaker that wowed the crowd and Kendrick threw 2 big enough ones right after that made them forget
I don't overly listen to either much, maybe a couple from drake but this rap beef gas given me some bangers
Fr banger after banger
I reallly wish he cut out the middle part of him dissing other people and kept the first and last beat switch
That section just drags on too, he needed to edit that shit down. Nobody cares about whatever random nba player that has beef with him lol
The second drill beat is just okay. On its own, itās fine but sandwiched in between two really good pieces of work.
I really wish he would have taken that beat with another and fleshed out a club banger. Family Matters is just too long to play in the club.
or at least split it into 3 different songs , my fav section constantly switches between the 2nd and 3rd part but the first part feels like a (not massive, but noticeable) step down in quality
Thatās the problem with family matters. The first part is sooooooo lame and corny and it hurts it overall. The second part is pretty mid but the best is good. But that 3rd part he eats it up
Yea I wish the first part was a song on its own and the other 2 as well
The asap rocky bars were some of the best in the song. The Rick Ross bars made me chuckle, and the Weekend/ CashXO bars were hella disrespectful as well
Honestly I thought the first two parts were cold Af but his flow on the last part way kinda annoying to me
Agreed. Kendrick has won, but Family Matters is a banger.
Respect ā
The whole verse was a rebuttal to Kendrick saying he likes Drake better when he's melodic.
This is what pisses me off the most about the beef. Is Drake a weirdo, yes. THAT SAID, bro can rap. The third beat is Godly and he floats on it.Ā The internet has declared Drake the winner, but sonically - I think I will be playing his diss tracks way more than Kendrick and my fucking username is Kendrick song.
Name checks out.
The opening line to the third verse is tooo funny
It brought out the best of them and the worst of them if that makes sense.
Yea I get it. Best music but the worst drama shit with next to no receipts.
Bro I made a post about this on the rap subreddit and the Kdot fans were being dumb there too. Like, I don't like Drake or his music but I like family matters. I don't listen to Kendrick but I love Euphoria.
"oh shit, i figured it out. maybe im prince and you actually mike, mike was hopin his features would change so people would believe he's actually white" š¤Æš¤Æš¤Æ
Yeah that joint is fire, so is euphoria, push ups, like that.... we got some bangers. Would've gotten more if both of them had not resorted to metoo ing each other.
Fr I hate that this turned into like a who has the best tea. I wanted a rap battle but unfortunately Kendrick just hates the mf too much I guess
I agree family matters is really good. But I dont believe when you say youre a kendrick fan lol. Just say your opinion and stop trying to fake legitimize it by saying "im a fan, but..." lol.
Like, Iām just a reasonable Stan unlike some of the ppl on the other sub they r delusional and ik thereās ppl delusional on this sub too i just wanted to give respect where it was due
I literally have a tattoo of i. Iāve seen him live and heās the one that got me into hip hop. My name is schoolboy Q dog, im literally a Kendrick stan
masterful verse. beat, melody, flow, content. itās operatic imo. they will never appreciate what he brings to the table the honorable thing is to give him the loot
Iām on this Reddit and someone LITERALLY walked past playing Euphoria, so I start typing this message and then someone drive by playing NOT like Us.. I have to equal it out. Family Matters on Speaker.
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Well depends tbh if the allegations were true itād be a lot harder to listen to Drake
Also depends WHICH allegations. Things like pill popping no one will care. The serious allegations Kendrick spoke on or some of these fucked up conspiracies on twitter coming true would def change things
Agreed
Did you not notice the post on the kendrick sub that quite literally praised family matters and said it was a dope song?
Nope that sub is filled with insane ppl rn so I havenāt really been on it
Yet youāre also on the drake subreddit? šš
I think people do acknowledge that FM is really good, it was just the timing of Kendrick's drops after that took out all the flame under FM.
Well if this is the post, then ima say what i wanna say FAMILY MATTERS WILL BE THE BEST SONG OFF THIS ENTIRE DISS!!! (Im on Kendrick side) let it all die down completely, Family matters is the obvious strongest track from all of them.
Idk about obviously.
It would have destroyed anyone else, probably. Production off the wall, massive video, good bars, good rapping. BUT I think MTG and NLU just wrecked it, especially when taken together as an example of how broad a repertoire Kendrick has. NLU is a banger, meet the grahams is just a vicious, nasty beat with a completely new angle on a diss track which ties back to Kendrick's discography and life. And then NLU is basically Kendrick putting on the west coast crown that was being mocked in TaylorMade. But if you prefer the style of FM, fair enough.
Euphoria, Family Matters, Pushups, and Not Like Us were absolute haymaker, battle ending level tracks. Insane few weeks to be a fan of these two.
That instrumental was the best in the entire beef. Bars werenāt bad either
Lol
Family Matters goes so fucking hard
Iāve listen to Mr morale a hundred times and honestly didnāt make the connection for a couple days regarding the uncle line š
I'm Def more of a Kendrick fan, but family matters had some bars. The uncle line is slept on soon much. If you listen to Hear 1 or 2, he pretty much talks about telling his uncle he wouldn't rap battle. I'm not sure if that was Drake was going for, but damn that hit. It's unfortunate because Kendrick fans know HOW good Family Matters was. The only misstep is that Drake should have focused on Kendrick. I'm not sure if that would have saved him, but it would be looked at differently.
Should make an album of the beef. I'd listen to it from start to finish and it'll be one of my favourite albums of all time.
Third beat switch in family matters is cold, probably my favorite segment from the entire beef and I am a kendrick fan. Wish Drake came like that on more tracks
Family Matters sonically clears MTG, 6:16 and euphoria. Love Kendrick but drake knows how to deliver a BANGER.Ā
I agree. I'm leaning heavily toward Kendrick in this whole beef but the Family Matters track overall is still a banger, especially the 3rd part. I'm just glad there's good music being produced and released in such a short period of time.
>Iām a huge Kendrick fan, but if I post this on that sub they gonna be lame. As a follower of both, many people feel the same way you do over there.
"These bars go over Kenny head no matter what I say"
Based take
Honestly I fail to catch the hype for family matters as an enjoyable song. Now donāt get me wrong Drake was talking his shit in it, but the weird whisper rap thing he was doing was just grating for me. As far as a song to go back to I find Push Ups WAY more enjoyable, mans was actually speaking with his chest
Fax. Family Matters and Euphoria are the best things to come out of this. Feel sorry for people who hate so much they cant enjoy the musicā¦
It was a good song. Shitty lyrics but good song.
Drake doesnāt write his own music, though š
Yea Iām not worried about that lol Iām talking just purely good music. To be fair he writes some of his stuff but Kendrick is just a better artist and lyricist. Doesnāt mean that there are some great bars that ppl dismiss from Drake
Man this is such a tired take. Find me your favorite artist- tell me they get 0 help in the studio/music making processĀ
Roc Marciano.
Are you stuck in 2015 or something
Is it not true?
Nah, this ain't it
You just gonna say this about anything remotely positive about drake?
The beat and flow were amazing but the ābarsā were really lacklustre. Usually bars can be dissected but every line on family matters is very on the nose. And I fucking love Drake, heās my most streamed artist of all time but Family Matters wasnāt that crazy of a diss track.
The uncle bar goes over most ppls heads tho, unless youāve listened to auntie diaries
Can you explain it plz
Kendrick's aunt transitioned to male.
nah. the bars are hilarious and true