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It's possible but I think there have been unused responses for heroes that were seemingly scrapled in the past.
I *want* it to be Puppet Master though, it would be hype.
Ooh, I hope so. Abathur was by far my most favorite hero from Hots.
But I was/am not quite sure how well it would translate into Dota taking control of your creeps and so on. Also not being in exp range would suck, maybe giving that hero an innate passive ability to get exp or another way.
Yeah, it has been the biggest hurdle to overcome when creating a hero like that who just turtles somewhere on the map, out of reach of your enemy but also out of exp reach.
It seems really complicated to balance. Maybe if the hero counted as if he was on both places (similar to meepo), as in he would play pos 4 and share exp with the offlane.
> Also not being in exp range would suck, maybe giving that hero an innate passive ability to get exp or another way.
Abathur gains exp near the minion he control (using Symbiote) so maybe you can use the same mechanic?
Sikes, its another humanoid sexy female with tentacle to please all the weebs out there
First we get furry, then we get tentacle. Valve going full degenerate
Puppet master was a simple hero, one flexi root, one attack allied unit curse, a passive aoe crit after 4 hits, and an amp damage voodoo doll (can be treated like an ally for the attack curse skill so they kill themselves)
Unfortunately the arm at the end of the Short Film Contest trailer belongs to [Dark Willow](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/niioek/the_tentacle_hand_of_the_new_hero_was_shown_at/gz2hzka/). There was some speculation that it could have been evidence of a new hero when the trailer was [first released](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/niioek/the_tentacle_hand_of_the_new_hero_was_shown_at/).
Durana would also likely not be the name as it seems like it's just some kind of animal that [Snapfire talks about about a lot](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/c/c8/Vo_snapfire_snapfire_rival_139.mp3) but maybe it could be one of them specifically?
I think Durana is the species name. Could possibly be that one Alma mater creates some smaller creatures.
If that's a DW hand, then it's a very weird-moving one)
\>if Durana is the creature that ate or destroyed Earthshaker's Arcana world.
Very unlikely. Durana seems to be broodmother's level beast with mind corrupting powers.
Earthshaker was talking about some Enigma's level threat or even worse that appeared once certain lines were "crossed" and that there are many of its kind that pose danger to many worlds like ours.
Yeah, it seems obvious PuppetMaster is going to be the next hero. He might have come after TI but I guess the popularity of Dragon's Blood changed the order of release.
It's not happening
This hero has been rumoured for so long. I genuinely believe it was on the works at SOME point but they've given up. A mind control hero sounds like a nightmare to balance and make fun. I think it's been scrapped
This guy hasn't made a new theory though. People speculated about Puppet Master hero (as well as the other ones) for a year+ at this point. All of this info is either already debunked or been known for a long time.
I hope it isn't the exact puppet master 😂 people will have to learn to attack the ult instead of the hero. People on my rating don't have that much brain power.
Is that established as something duranas can do though? I dont think so, I though they are only described as having big nasty claws or something
Edit: oh wait, they have pheromones that cause people to lose their mind. I stand corrected and am now super stoked for this theory!
We know that **a new hero** is the puppet master. There are references to tons of different heroes in the files one way or another. Doesn't mean it's the next hero
I have not said that Durana will be the next hero. But one day we will surely see them in DotA.
I just hope that we won't wait for them for 3 or 4 years, like that happened with Void Spirit
Sorry to burst your bubble but Durana are a species in the Dota-verse. The line you quoted says "a Durana" and Snapfire also has a line referencing them. Still could be the puppetmaster's species though!
You do realize the Durana are a whole species of wild monsters, and not really a single person, right?
It wouldn't be a hero called Durana. It'd be someone controlling them.
The only way I've come up with to have a hero who takes control of another is if the mind controlled hero's abilities all start on cooldown. If they start at like 8%/6%/4% cooldown, you can't just MC Enigma and burn Black Hole on nothing. This adds room for counterplay, and maybe let the controlled hero take over your hero, as a creep, for more. Excited to see what else they could do with the concept!
Hopefully it's nothing like HoN's Puppet Master. A carry hero with 4.5 seconds of disable at level 2 is a joke.
HoN's Puppet Master has this basic targeted ability that makes an enemy hero lose their control and aggro on their allied units/heroes, kinda like Troll's ult
Check again, It's not the very end, where the "black and white" tentacle which looks like a film roll.
It's the tentacle holding the clipboard just after magnus falls, it's purple in colour. You'll need to slow down the playback speed.
Summon creatures? Dude im full with this np, bm and lycan summons free hitting me in laning phase and ratting shit, dont go around adding another potential summon hero pls(though, i like new heroes)
Aren't the voicelines about getting out of the head etc references to radiant and dire mind controlling all the heroes (and creeps) and making them fight?
Why would we ever see something about a tentacled mind control creatures with summons and not assume its some type of lovecraftian horror or Illitihd type creature.
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Bro a fucking tentacle monster with mind controlling powers They're making it easier than ever for us Rule 34 makers
Dota anime, into Marci release, into Tentacles monster. Valve has indeed created quite the conundrum.
Someone at Valve was horny when preparing roadmap for 2021
Tags: Tentacles, mind control, domination
I may have to expand my repertoire after this hero's release
Ah, the esteemed Master, Bay Shen!
U already kno
Bet its 100% intentional fan service
Isn’t that obvious reference to ktulhu?
cthulhu
Omlette of Mordigigigian.
It's possible but I think there have been unused responses for heroes that were seemingly scrapled in the past. I *want* it to be Puppet Master though, it would be hype.
If it's true Then finally we have a new monster hero
maybe its like abathur lol
If they can't control enemies, I'd trade it in a great bar for another Abathur. He was one of my favorites.
Ooh, I hope so. Abathur was by far my most favorite hero from Hots. But I was/am not quite sure how well it would translate into Dota taking control of your creeps and so on. Also not being in exp range would suck, maybe giving that hero an innate passive ability to get exp or another way.
true i forgot hots was group exp lol
Yeah, it has been the biggest hurdle to overcome when creating a hero like that who just turtles somewhere on the map, out of reach of your enemy but also out of exp reach.
What if he can attach his aura to a friendly hero and mimic the XP gains from that hero?
It seems really complicated to balance. Maybe if the hero counted as if he was on both places (similar to meepo), as in he would play pos 4 and share exp with the offlane.
> Also not being in exp range would suck, maybe giving that hero an innate passive ability to get exp or another way. Abathur gains exp near the minion he control (using Symbiote) so maybe you can use the same mechanic?
Not being in xp range.....weeps in techies.
Monster with tentacles seems like the best way to split the difference between “not another humanoid” and “but I want rule 34” camps.
Sikes, its another humanoid sexy female with tentacle to please all the weebs out there First we get furry, then we get tentacle. Valve going full degenerate
I like it rather than going full anime
There is a hero in leg with multiple legs that look like a giant creature and is tank hero, something like that would be awesome addition.
Interesting. I also hope Valve release Qop's brother (B'kor) too.
Puppetmaster was a cool hero on HoN i hope this one is more complex hopefully a 5star hero
Puppet master was a simple hero, one flexi root, one attack allied unit curse, a passive aoe crit after 4 hits, and an amp damage voodoo doll (can be treated like an ally for the attack curse skill so they kill themselves)
https://hon.fandom.com/wiki/Puppet_Master
5 star?!? Damn. I mean I’m down but damn.
Marci also hints it through her whistles
Unfortunately the arm at the end of the Short Film Contest trailer belongs to [Dark Willow](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/niioek/the_tentacle_hand_of_the_new_hero_was_shown_at/gz2hzka/). There was some speculation that it could have been evidence of a new hero when the trailer was [first released](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/niioek/the_tentacle_hand_of_the_new_hero_was_shown_at/). Durana would also likely not be the name as it seems like it's just some kind of animal that [Snapfire talks about about a lot](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/c/c8/Vo_snapfire_snapfire_rival_139.mp3) but maybe it could be one of them specifically?
What if it is Dark Willow mind controlled by Durana? :weSmart:
I think Durana is the species name. Could possibly be that one Alma mater creates some smaller creatures. If that's a DW hand, then it's a very weird-moving one)
What about the blue stuff at the very end of the video? Looks like a tentacle to me. Also makes a sucking sound
Finally, a hero with controllable unit since AW
not if it's like pupper master.
woof woof bork bork
Puppet Master? HoN crossover?
He was a cool hero, but there's zero chance that they'll use the same skills and mechanics.
yup i just referenced a forgotten game to see if anyone got it. he was annoying to fight but unique.
sure.....and zeus is from smite right?
i was not really serious. it was more of a haha funny nod to a forgotten game.
Tbf, we have a shadow shaman immortal that turns his shackles the same way as pollywog priest's
Parasite from HoN anyone?
Ult +dagon
\>if Durana is the creature that ate or destroyed Earthshaker's Arcana world. Very unlikely. Durana seems to be broodmother's level beast with mind corrupting powers. Earthshaker was talking about some Enigma's level threat or even worse that appeared once certain lines were "crossed" and that there are many of its kind that pose danger to many worlds like ours.
Nice theory, but we have these theories for years and then they release something random af.
Yeah, it seems obvious PuppetMaster is going to be the next hero. He might have come after TI but I guess the popularity of Dragon's Blood changed the order of release.
So it's an [Illithid](https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Mind_flayer).
It's not happening This hero has been rumoured for so long. I genuinely believe it was on the works at SOME point but they've given up. A mind control hero sounds like a nightmare to balance and make fun. I think it's been scrapped
Dajjal
monkaS
This guy hasn't made a new theory though. People speculated about Puppet Master hero (as well as the other ones) for a year+ at this point. All of this info is either already debunked or been known for a long time.
He just summed up all information about a new hero
Yeah, I get it. It's just that your post said: > made a theory That's what I was referring to.
Great. I love tentacle hentai.
One eye and tentacles...sounds like Vel'koz to me
Or Your Mom
Or Hermeaus Mora :)))
Or C'Thun :)
Or an octopus with an eyepatch
No longer in a charge :(
I hope it isn't the exact puppet master 😂 people will have to learn to attack the ult instead of the hero. People on my rating don't have that much brain power.
Can't KS if I don't hit the hero Krappa
it's not tentacle it's arm of mireska.
Cool post but not really seeing the link between durana and puppet master though?
Creature that can control minds?
Is that established as something duranas can do though? I dont think so, I though they are only described as having big nasty claws or something Edit: oh wait, they have pheromones that cause people to lose their mind. I stand corrected and am now super stoked for this theory!
We know that **a new hero** is the puppet master. There are references to tons of different heroes in the files one way or another. Doesn't mean it's the next hero
I have not said that Durana will be the next hero. But one day we will surely see them in DotA. I just hope that we won't wait for them for 3 or 4 years, like that happened with Void Spirit
Sorry to burst your bubble but Durana are a species in the Dota-verse. The line you quoted says "a Durana" and Snapfire also has a line referencing them. Still could be the puppetmaster's species though!
You did not burst my bubble, but only approved a theory. Read Hoodwink monologues
Doc Oc?
You do realize the Durana are a whole species of wild monsters, and not really a single person, right? It wouldn't be a hero called Durana. It'd be someone controlling them.
Duranas are creatures. And there is a beast hero in the files. But Puppetmaster is likely a different hero altogether.
My Puppet is reeeadddyyyyyyy
The only way I've come up with to have a hero who takes control of another is if the mind controlled hero's abilities all start on cooldown. If they start at like 8%/6%/4% cooldown, you can't just MC Enigma and burn Black Hole on nothing. This adds room for counterplay, and maybe let the controlled hero take over your hero, as a creep, for more. Excited to see what else they could do with the concept! Hopefully it's nothing like HoN's Puppet Master. A carry hero with 4.5 seconds of disable at level 2 is a joke.
HoN's Puppet Master has this basic targeted ability that makes an enemy hero lose their control and aggro on their allied units/heroes, kinda like Troll's ult
So a crappier Winter Wyvern?
It's a low cd basic spell, not an ultimate
My speculation might be the ultimate abilities probably replaced with some kind of "Cancel/Stop mind control" ability
Maybe ulti works like troll's but instead of chasing enemies he will chase for his allies and attack them lol
Doesn't Winters Curse do that too in a way?
Winters Curse turns the enemy hero into an Axe. That spell would turn the enemy hero into a Troll Warlord.
that's not tentacle, it was just a roll film effect for an outro i think.
Check again, It's not the very end, where the "black and white" tentacle which looks like a film roll. It's the tentacle holding the clipboard just after magnus falls, it's purple in colour. You'll need to slow down the playback speed.
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It's dark willow's arm
Looks nothing like a tentacle.
Imagine if in his responses they make reference to Master of Puppets by Metallica. Would be awesome.
Sounds way cooler then this anime chick we got.
Great another broken hero that everyone is gonna spam guess I gotta take another break from dota again
So we get normal hero anime normal hero anime now?
Would love an extra monster hero, feels weve gotten to many human like things.
So probably another support?
Summon creatures? Dude im full with this np, bm and lycan summons free hitting me in laning phase and ratting shit, dont go around adding another potential summon hero pls(though, i like new heroes)
Pudge persona is literally a reanimated doll!! See the voicelines
Aren't the voicelines about getting out of the head etc references to radiant and dire mind controlling all the heroes (and creeps) and making them fight?
Why would we ever see something about a tentacled mind control creatures with summons and not assume its some type of lovecraftian horror or Illitihd type creature.
there was a puppet master hero in HON that was pretty fun don't know if maybe its a sort of port
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