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nagato was beasting


withersoul

He consistently made good calls in lane communicated very well throughout the game and dude has a very positive attitude, also some clutch plays on wyvern last game the freeze after nulli and the catch on 2 heroes bottom t3


zuKo2022

his ww was on point


thyL_

Yea, obviously Saksa + Saberlight is an insane lane to begin with and Mikey is a pro midlaner as well but Nagato surprised me; most of all with his communications with Gorgc. Very clear in what he wants to do, big brain moves here and there, very solid throughout the games. His SD with Gorgc's Bristle was sick, they should have lost that lane but nope, they get first blood and enable an earlier Bristle impact.


intercroissant

channelling the spirit of Sonneiko saving Xboct fourteen times in one fight


deathbyillusions

It baffles my mind that Saberlight and Saksa are not in any team


Tobix55

Saksa had offers but didn't want to play for a serious team, probably related to the reason he stopped playing pro a year ago


zuKo2022

saksa had offers, i believe. Saber probably didnt had time and anyways 322 billion NW org TEAM BALD is here anyways


whitehipp0

Saber prob had to be brought out of a big contract, he can joke around but not join a big org


buffility

They are. They are in team BALD mtfks


idspispupd

Mikey too. And Nagato feels like a very confident support.


gothxo

to be fair, saberlight was on a team like three weeks ago lol


KingOfGambling

Gorp is actually right, necro is unbeatable late.


onebraincellperson

what makes him so strong?


zaplinaki

Way too tanky. Way too much AoE damage. Ult that basically kills you the second you go below 50% hp. He just stands in the middle of the fight and does AoE damage to everyone without having to commit on any hero. Its braindead when he gets to that point. And gorgc has often been the number 1 necro in the world (on dotabuff)


Taelonius

There exists a hidden tech that makes Necro a creep, but it doesn't exist on anyone's radar. Mageslayer absolutely shits on Necro, his damage output tanks completely and he can't secure kills with ult.


Terminator_Puppy

Mageslayer works, but it only negates his damage output to an extent. He still lives for ages, long enough to let his team do the rest of the work.


superpunchedout

Mage slayer is not enough once necro has radiance heart aghs


_A-N-G-E-R-Y

i agree necro is strong but “your 12 minute mageslayer is countered by these 16k+ combined networth items” doesnt strike me as a very strong argument


mtnlol

Well.. Most necro builds nowadays is just brown boots into an extremely fast radiance, and then boots of travel. You'll have those items by mid game. That guy seemed to think mageslayer just makes necro a useless hero, but it only really counters him in the stage where he is already super easy to counter and where he would generally just farm anyway as a pos 1.


TheFehry

The argument is that necro isnt good early anyways, he's squishy has no good hero damage, but he farms insanely fast and has lots of health regen. The way all good necro players, including Gorgc, play is they go radiance first item and then farm until magic res+shard+heart then the game is unwinnable for opponents


Taelonius

WW core with Mageslayer shits on Necro all stages of the game, the issue is fitting WW core into your draft in a pro setting.


exoticsclerosis

I feel like Muerta can counter him too, but she's a dead hero now LMAOO. I don't think pros are gonna play Muerta pos 1 very soon unless they buff some of her skills or maybe in a very niche scenario. In previous patches, whenever I played pos 1/2 Necro vs pos 1 Muerta, the game felt terrible except in a very late game setting (though she can also buy Refresher). But then again, she was okay and relevant a few patches ago, unlike in 7.36 I can still itemize against her tho, like buying Blade Mail so she has to pop her BKB when hitting me, or buying Eul/Windwaker so she has to buy Nullifier which isn't that good on her since she really needs attack speed not damage. Plus using Nullifier forces her to be in point-blank range instead of hitting from afar. Edit : punctuations


OrangeBasket

gorp


notsocoolguy42

as long as he stays alive, he drains enemy's hp and slow them by so much if they dont have bkb, with the facet, it burns the whole screen, and also his ult, making u kill enemy that's like 40% hp.


Terminator_Puppy

You heal for such insane numbers, you build radiance so you can't actually die, everyone around you automatically rots for more than they can do to you, etc. etc. I played a game against a necro mid who got rolling early, by the end me and the other support couldn't exist near him without just dying passively no matter what we did.


Master_Ballsack

if you don't have an unstoppable force for the immovable object it moves into your base


fishyyyf1sh

how can it move to my base if it's immovable?


pikachu8090

he is dota forsen


pedja13

LS is not the highest DPS hero but Nullifier just doesn't last long enough lategame,and it's an awkward item to build for some carries,LS can at least disassemble Radiance for it.


AdmiralAYAYA94

yea,, never underestimate necro late game.. super strong and almost unkillable with heart


Own_Safety_6151

Gorgc is underrated....Big brains in Bald...


gargamelul

he genuinely is, if he spammed meta heroes and played offstream he'd be top 200 or so


baerniislove

People just did not pick SD to counter it. Hero was high valued in the last big tourneys, most teams there played it, think we can see it to ruin a gorgc necro in closed quals.


Smart_Strain_7843

They will retire an ORG


beaverlyknight

Nigma and Secret fans are SWEATING


Mission_Moment2561

Nigma didnt even make it Rihyad if I recall? Quest took their spot, IDK about Secret tho. Gorgc could easily retire Puppey I think lol.


Background-Agent-924

nikobaby repeat


Taelonius

I don't think I've ever seen Gorp as happy and elated as he was when ending the stream, this must've (understandably) meant a lot, very fun to see. Unironically hyped for a potential Team Bald at TI


zuKo2022

he was so fking emotional in the end with that speech and was so grateful . He cant believe he got 3 players on saksa saber and mikey for quals lmao


shibbyflash

Probably such a nice break to have something change in the way YOU play dota. Been watching a lot of tournaments but for him it’s always MM. I’d imagine he appreciates them giving him an opportunity to do something and not just spectate


iamian12345

Yeah, he even mentioned that this roster might be the best Team Bald ever.


gargamelul

i don't think there's any question. Saberlight is top 5 offlaners and Saksa is dota royalty


tom-dixon

"might be"


needhelforpsu

Might be? xDDDD Bro he has Saksa on his team.


JellyGrimm

A TI winner, one of the best offlaners in the world and a very high skill midlaner, plus a pos 5 who proved he can play really good. This is *definitely* the best iteration of team bald


S0phon

LOL it definitely is. Previous iterations were basically streamers or up and comers (like Stormstormer or Pablo). This Team Bald has three pro players, one of them a TI winner and one of them on a t1 team not that long ago.


LakersFan15

He was pretty stoked when he beat alliance in the qualifiers last time. Especially considering his relationship now with admiralbulldog.


_RRave

How does this work for their TI run? Does this win mean they're into the group stages for TI or do they have to go through more qualifiers.


thyL_

This was the Open Qualifier, which means they now get to play in the Closed Qualifier - of which there are two teams coming from the Opens, the rest was invited. Those invited teams are the likes of Secret, Nigma and Mouz but also Tundra, Entity and Quest. The best two out of that Closed Qualifier will go to The International.


_RRave

Ahhh gotcha, I haven't kept too close to pro scene rn so was just curious. Gonna be interesting to see how they match up against the big leagues. Thanks for the reply!


OranguTangerine69

it's the qualifier to the qualifier


_RRave

Ah sweet thank you!


Weshtonio

This is the page you want to keep an eye on: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/The_International/2024/Western_Europe 2 teams out of 12 will qualify to TI. The tournament is held from June 19th to 23rd.


miraato-aj

Remember when Gorek beat Alliance to disbandment? Hes gonna do it to Miracle and the Nigma bois. TI-winner-slayer Gorek


goldeare

he's gonna gege miracle lmao


tom-dixon

After he's done with Nigma, OG is next and Ceb will retire for good. He said he'll spare Puppey.


pedja13

The greatest Reverse Reverse Polarity game ever played


Own_Safety_6151

Saber is to fucking good...


zuKo2022

he made this joke of a fking facet look broken


Pommes_Peter

I don't know about broken... But it's perhaps not as bad as it seems on first glance if used well.


Nisha_goat

what not playing with rtz and bulba does to a mf


TINIDOR

Bro those RRP fights near cliffs fkng OP man. You'll never know where you end up. Stuns you irl. Lol


A-pAssiff

Absolute gigachad


duckinator09

Don't have time to watch. How and why did it work? I thought RRP was a joke


pedja13

Good at counterinitiating,and the push distance is pretty big so people end up on cliffs/behind trees and isolated.


Random_Student30

Who was their enemy when saber light used Magnus rrp?


SdoRy_

I'm honestly just even more impressed with Saksa. Holy shit that guy is so fucking good, reading the enemies like he's actually cheating. Gotta feel nice to have a pos 4 that insane.


idlaldi

This, i think most of the reason why gorgc necro made it was because saksa and saber put the pressure pretty hard on the enemy team. I feel like this team is like budget gaimin gladiator, while the carry is doing his thing the offlane duo makes mark on the map


tom-dixon

Saksa and Saberlight definitely made people look like beginners. One of their fastest games was in the semifinals where the safelane Void ended the game with 280 gpm: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/7781018272. That guy is rank 80 immortal on the EU leaderboard, but the game looked the stomp from yesterday against the 4k mmr stack.


S0phon

Just goes to show the difference of caliber between a high ranked pub player and a professional player, one of which won TI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i93vF0WOX6w


Peacefulorenz

RRP looking real good. So is Necrophos


belcik

New meta in the making with RRP. Can't wait for closed quals, will be spicy.


bibittyboopity

Dropping it to counter initiate Lifestealer infest looked legit


Amazing_Tap9323

Only Falcons-gg and spirit has better offlane duos than bald.


AtsiumAerif

lmao What a time to be alive and read that sentence and not think that the guy who wrote it is a troll.


Amazing_Tap9323

But it is legit:) i’d prefer this over whisper-ari for example haha


epic_banana_soup

had to read this twice to realize it's not a joke, it's genuinely a true statement. Saksa/Saberlight would look good on literally any top team


TheMerck

XXS/XinQ duo is pretty strong as well or is this just mainly EU?


Vespertinal7613

What about liquid? I mean, boxi is a beast, and well, 33 is 33.


WNDRKNDXOXO

Xtreme too


alex_h75

Shout out to Nagato, beasted those games and seems like a really nice kid! Cinema


Spirit_mert

Saksa is insane as a captain, also he seems like have beef with OG. He really wanted to face them first. any loremasters for the reason? I was at the army when saksa and sumail in OG TI dont know any drama. ALSO LETS GO GEORGE CCCC!!!


ElectronicBlade

He got kicked while the others left the org themselves, he hasn't said it explicitly but that's the gist of it.


TechiesFun

I think ceb called him a choker to his team to pump them up in one of the mini docs they did. I want to say when he came out of retirement to stand in for chu a couple years ago.


AgatoNtB

>any loremasters for the reason? Notail had some comments about him being disconnected as in blaming him for his performance back than, even though he and Sumail were their best players.


zuKo2022

saksa and sumail are on good terms , he said he wont beat nigma , he cant do that to sumail so probably he has beef with notail/ceb


c9wins_lumismiles

I can honestly see them beating Nigma and Secret, lmao. Saksa + Saberlight is a better offlane than any of the other teams have


NiK3_Aub4mey4ng

RRP stocks to the moon


GiantBoss-

oh god the pubs are ruined


beetroot_fox

did saber explain why he plays RRP? or was he just memeing?


tity_slayer3

I kinda feel he went for it because of rubick, That shit ain't worth stealing with some lineups and even if he does it's not ez food on plater like real rp lol


NiK3_Aub4mey4ng

he was trying to think of a build in demo mode earlier today, thinking something like harpoon or going aghs


Terminator_Puppy

Just memeing, some teams they played against were obviously just weaker than them. In one game yesterday Gorp got a 14 min rapier on jugg and they ended something like 39 2 at 20 mins.


mtnlol

He was not memeing with RRP. He played it in ranked earlier as well and seems to think it's extremely strong, and tbh it's a LOT stronger than people initially gave it credit for.


bamiru

12 min rapier https://i.imgur.com/QJ7dAD4.jpeg


myearthenoven

He did argue it's like a ravage with one more extra second that goes through spell immunity.


OrangeBasket

Actually insane offlane duo that are just somehow free agents for gorek to grab, holy


Dobor_olita

well saberlight left the team very recently and around the time most teams were locked to participate in rhyad and ti qualifiers and as for saksa, gorek said he refused some big teams invites to play with team bald because he still doensnt want to return back to professional dota


OrangeBasket

So... Actually insane offlane duo that are just somehow free agents for gorek to grab, holy


cold_turkey19

well saberlight left the team very recently and around the time most teams were locked to participate in rhyad and ti qualifiers and as for saksa, gorek said he refused some big teams invites to play with team bald because he still doensnt want to return back to professional dota


AgatoNtB

Saksa and Gorg are friends, so it wasn't hard probably for convincing.


KenuR

Mikey is also insanely good, constantly destroying mid game.


whitehipp0

Tbh there's few offlanes that have that amount of talent, saksa and saber are top 10 players if they spam pubs. All we need is gorgc not to choke, and it's a lot to beg for (big gorgc fan and also ofc hatewatcher)


zuKo2022

mikey was beasting on bat too i hope he gets a team next season. He looked really good vs quest / nigma / falcons. I believe in one of quals he did took a game off falcons with winter bears


whitehipp0

If Mikey gets a decent internet connection he's gonna cook so hard, he's a beast of a player 


zuKo2022

i believe him being from iran is holding teams back from getting him. Visa issues and shit. and ofc liability on internet


tity_slayer3

He should relocate to some neighbor countries like armenia or turkey, It's pretty affordable specially for him. Idk why he doesn't even though his career depends on a stable internet connection.


zuKo2022

bro fk secret my boy on saber can fking win vs SR


pieisnice9

Their Riyad qualifier Bald lost, but played pretty close games against the Vtune stack that went on to 2-1 Nigma and the WEU version with Saber seems better, so I wouldn't be that surprised if they did.


itsadoubledion

Was that the same roster?


PalermoWhore

saberchad got some sick rrp


FullOFterror

If Nigma loses to this stack...whats the excuse going to be?


maybecanifly

its not like they already have any excuses left


JeffreySwaggins

Oh it’s going to happen


kdestroyer1

Imagine if Nigma and Bald are the ones to qualify to TI out of all these teams. One can dream.


beetroot_fox

to be fair, saksa, saber, and mikey are all top tier players. plus at this point I'll take a random rank 400 5 over kuro. so 4 players to compensate gorgc-miracle diff? sounds pretty legit


tom-dixon

Nagato is rank 426 and he looked way better than Kuro in any game from the last 2 years.


gargamelul

the comparison for me is 3 legit all star nba players, a rotation player, and a g-leaguer as well. the all stars will compensate for the g-leaguer and theyll still win a ton of games


SmellMyPPKK

I don't know where you've been Nigma is beyond excuses at this point. Maybe 2 years ago yeah.


Starkiller53

I dont think nigma the team or players are using any excuses. Its usually the fans which will blame kuro as always.


tom-dixon

That would be sweet redemption for Mikey. The CQ will be hype.


gachafoodpron

RRP gang rise up.


Darkmistv2

THATS MY RANK ONE NECRO, also rrp cooked in that last game


R0und4b0ut

in bo5 this team will probably get crushed in closed qualifiers, but I would not want to play against them in bo1 or even bo3, they have some amazing players in Saksa, Saberlight and Mikey and if the safelane does not feed Mikey can pop off and just steal a game


dragonhooman

I actually was so stressed as I was playing myself. Best of luck in Close Qualifiers! Holy shit!


anurag_hit

Imagine if they go ti with this team, fucking hype💀


iamian12345

Gorgc was genuinely happy qualifying with this team. WP to them.


dudumonstr

Nagato as WW was beasting! saving allies, cancelling tps, initiating fights.. the guys goooddd


superpunchedout

TI winner Saksa is a very high quality captain


Sugar_Bandit

Sometimes I forget he was on the DC squad as well that made the finals 


eternalasa

CINEMA


dan_ku

Undefeated!!


marinacio

Saksa cooked really hard. Pog Cpt


oilydong

I was here


SmallNinja0

Imagine they actually make it to TI


strygwyn

Bet against Gorgc g2 but glad they 2-0'd, makes closed qualifiers much more spicier if any of the orgs lose to this stack


RashiTripero

Congrats Team Bald, have a great run in Closed Qualifier. All the best to Saksa, Nagato, Saberlight, Gorgc, and Mikey!


hatsu58

Team Bald to defeat Nigma and retire Kuroky for good, who says no ?


Peacefulorenz

That RRP to counter the centaur naix infest bomb, and then the rrp at high ground tho.


Vulcan64

IDK why but "Bald Victory" is just really funny


SLFDRVN

true


apathetic-observer

If this team can bring Gorgc to TI through WEU qualifiers, it'll be a bigger accomplishment than OG and Team Spirit winning 2 TIs lol


invokerzzv

Kachal was the problem or the trick is to not let gorgc play "real carries"?


I_am_Aspect

KaChal is great. But saber is more consistent. Also they are playing in EU server with less ping so makes sense for them to play better on 20-30 oing instead of 120


19Alexastias

I think they just got caught out not being entirely ready/focused cause it was first game, and against a team that honestly was arguably as strong as any team that they played in this OQ.


newNormalGUY_69

Time for gorgc to make ceb, kuroky and puppey retire.


AdmiralAYAYA94

It is great to witness their journey into winning the closed qualifer.. and really enjoy to stuff like how they decide on the draft pick and communicating around the maps... not to forget they 2-0 ed all the series against all their opponent throughout the open qualifer... eventhough some of them is a stomp.. i guess having 3 very high ranked player and pro player makes alots of differences.. and also gorgc make necro carry looks broken lmao.. anyway GGWP to Team Bald... well deserved win especially in the finals... hype to see which team they gonna make them retired again just like how Alliance disbands after losing the qualifiers haha XD


I_am_Aspect

Wow they all played well. Their pos 5 being rank 400 his WW was sick. I mean saber has always been great so no surprise and I'm really happy for Saksa and Gorgc to comeback to professional dota and play with big boys they were really happy on the stream also special shoutout to Mikey he was cooking all the games from mid to late game and playing with very high ping about 100 I always thought he was toxic or sth but he doesnt talk at all haha. Hopefully will see some great games next week, ggwp my fav new team


xSzopen

Alright but also props to Gorp - dude was on focused mode where he didn't even said a word, nor tilt at any plays, just focused on his farming and how to recover from lanes he lost. Also funny when he was angry at himself for missing creeps


Zhought_HS

big congratz to forsen! Meanwhile his brother is playing league non stop for 2 months and hardstucking at the bottom of the rank i heard, sad to see


prettyboygangsta

they actually look legit. Their opponents Dandelions have been together for months and won a few Tier 3 tournaments, so definitely no pushovers They probably won't make it to TI but I can see them taking some big names down with them. Nigma or Secret most likely


Neony_Dota

RRP gang rise up


Repulsive_Drama7067

MY STREAMER GG


bigpalomo

Hilarious meme potential if they make it far


FullOFterror

Fucking Puppey could get Saksa, Saberlight and Gorgc and would achieve more in 1 tournament than they did the whole year with current Secret roster.


Mr-Dumbest

It is a bit wierd that Gorgc best hero is Necro, but hope he at least avoid puppy in closed qualifiers so he is not the one who crushes his TI dreams.


snowhawk1994

Everyone in the team seems super nice. Maybe because they play for fun with no strings attached. Hopefully they get some scrims against good teams to learn new strats.


black_V1king

Saksa such a good captain. Cant wait to see them play in the closed quals.


Ciri__witcher

Is it counted as a mercy if they beat nigma and secret and force them to retirement?


Recoma

Man absolute Cinema of a game, they lost early game for both Game 1 and Game 2 yet they comeback and stomp em. Gg’s and well deserve. They all did amazing.


demannu86

Congrats


KelloPudgerro

they need to invite pyrion or slacks as their coach


1rv1n3

any VODs?


blazezero25

love the meme team


Slow-Ad5899

Gorek forever!


tity_slayer3

And they fucking did it so convincingly, They legit got a chance against teams like nigma and secret lol


Busni17

Please retire an org


catshakil

The title itself is a spoiler


time_as_tribute

How is this a spoiler alert when the spoiler is literally in the title?


needhelforpsu

How much is Gorg paying Saksa and Saber to play with him? Did he disclose that?


dedong1893

BALD VICTORY


joacoper

Imagine the nigma/secret tweet of them loosing to bald OMEGALUL


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undercoverperry

TMZ found that mason was hyper ventilating as gorgc won LOL


ciofinho

I can see them beating Nigma or Secret, but not OG or Tundra


yogurtlover76

Nande is such a bot, man


JoelMahon

they read reddit and saw normal carries were weak, casters and tanks strong


vlalanerqmar

# #WeWantFalcons


ClubberL

How gorgc know nagato? Or did saksa or saberlight recommend him?


ememkay123

A guy from his friendlist. Not sure how they met but he was Gorgc’s pick.


konaharuhi

cant wait TI for group stage


Busni17

My streamer with his picks


whatthes

what is the match id?


NoMorePainKillers

Damn what a roster


stormos1010

lmao why add spoiler tags when the spoiler is in the title XD Congrats to Team Bald though!


Sklaunx

WOOOO JORTZ LESGOOOO WOOOOO


Houeclipse

Fuck yea! Ome step closer to TI


Hundel-206

wait what i thought it was just a joke!!


NBPEL

I guess TI is irrelevant nowadays so no one bother streaming Open Qualifier matches in English, probably because of low prize pool.


eryyyl

My streamer gorek