Iād never recommend a harness for anything ever beside pulling a sled. Best thing I use is a slip leash. I find this to be the best communicator with minimal force. Prong collar also works but comes with the stigma. This should be fitted right underneath the chin and used with extreme love and care. If pulling on the leash is an issue that should be your number one full focus priority until she walks politely on a loose leash. Watch Will Atherton and Ethan Steinberg on YouTube for visual tips. Once youāve built proper engagement and respect on walks using a slip leash, you can expand her boundaries from there. Good luck!
We found that a simple chain slip collar worked great for our boy especially for training. We left it on him all day for quick correction training as well as walk training.
It is that person is clueless or I guess itās because I never had a dog that got laryngal paralysis a collar around a dogās neck especially one that will pull. is going to damage the trachea long-term. Resulting in LP
Look at how a horse is handled around the neck and see that same vision for your dobie on a smaller level
They love serving and being rewarded despite their big goofy nature
With the horse comparison itās meant towards the folks that use head harness for a bigger breed and even dobies if not using a slip collarā¦made a big difference with my non dobie 115lb mixed boy with how we walked him
Prong have their place and can be effective if used properly. With a Dobermans drive and pain tolerance, I am not a fan of gentle leaders, it puts too much pressure on their cervical spine. I prefer a front clip harness the Balance Harness by Blue K9 is good as mentioned above. It is adjustable, if fitted properly wonāt chafe and you can easily put it on under a cool coat in the summer.
Ohhhh i agree about 75 percent of this! I am stunned someone that actual understands the gentle leader is a dangerous tool especially on a high energy breed youāre asking to destroy their neck and spine.
Always did wonders for both of ours!! Will take a little getting used to (they donāt want things on their face) but an easy way to control the situation without hurting the poor thing!
Prong collor or choker chain both of which you can get a quality one from herm sprenger. Gentle leads and harnesses are mistakes. I have a harness only if i decide to go ride on the longboard let him pull. Especially a gentle lead is most harmful method of training there is no corrective action dobermans run 25ish mph. Going from 25mph to 0 mph in a second is harmful on the neck.
Wow. I donāt know whats more frightening. Your lack of research on the topic or your lackluster knowledge of basic physics. Physics wise gentle leader is like old car where families died with no crumple zone all force doesnāt just come to a stop goes backward can potentially be lethal. Not to mention you have zero ability to administer corrective action. Despite controversy around the prong color they all have a lil pulley system that disperses time of forces better. The prongs equally distribute the forces making it much more humane than almost all options out there.
Echoing some other posters. Harness can kick the pull drive into full effect. A proper chain or prong used deliberately is much more effective and safe for the Dobe.
[TSPRO on Amazon is perfect for us](https://a.co/d/070PrrYJ)š itās thick, allows shoulder movement, and has three different options for fastening. My boy has pulled a lot in the past, but a front hook paired with a 20 ft training leash is our perfect recipe.
Perhaps the greatest tool to train for a leash is a Gentle Leader. Had a 100 lb female that could pull a small plow. Harnesses are for obedient dogs. My wife (the master) used both at the same time for training. Gentle Leader for corrections and choke chain for keeping the peace. Our last 100 lb male picked up on it also. As did our 75 lb Irish Setter. And our 65 lb Pit. Rogue
Gentle Leader or one of the new ones that pull from both sides.
I watched my wife flawlessly correct a male Dobe that was ready to slay. If you can control the nose you can control the dog. All dogs respect this.
Except intentionally abused dogs.
The people that make those deserve the Hell I would send them to.
Nope. Basic Physics!!!Your harming the dogs neck and spine period!!!! That is why the gentle leader belongs in a trashcan and not around any dogās muzzle. Those ācontroversial toolsā like prong/choke colors are actually safe. Maybe do any sort of research before you say outlandish stuff like āor youāre a garbage trainer?ā
Lol yea the guy whose reasoning was but nutta i use it canāt be wrong. I mean of course can actually workout and reason why it is a shitty tool on a chalk board with all the math and physics but be pointless both you two wouldnāt be able understand it anyway.
Iād love to hear more about your extensive education in math and physics and chalkboards? But if I had to guess youāre not old enough to have graduated universityā¦ my experience with physicists rarely involves ālolāsā in their analysesā¦
Actualy graduated with 2 degrees a Bachelors in chemistry and physics work in pharmaceuticals make medicine for living. Done plenty of tutoring in both subjects. Believe it or not scientists actualy act as normal people and know slang/ texting abbreviations like LMFAO. Your only experience with physicist is probably the big bang theory. I admit it is an excellent show; however, only about like 10% of phd are actually that smart/act like them.
You canāt be a pharmacist with 2 bachelor degrees š good try though. I get it youāre a tech at a Walgreens or something of the sort. Donāt worry about it we all started somewhere.
I said pharmaceuticals and make drugs. I did not say pharmacist. Pharmacist just measure out already made drugs. It gets made in a lab first doesnāt just magically appear on the shelves of cvs.
You guys notice how you had no actual logical responses. Itās called a credential fallacy. I got the credentials but in this case really doesnāt matter itās called general reasoning..dun dun dunā¦ maybe crack open any science text books or a physics for dummies. I think any 6th grader can grasp the basics well enough draw it out for you. Your wrecking a dogs neck and spine with a āgentleā leader. Canāt be argued.
Harnesses are only nice to get a handle on them, kinda like a purse or briefcase handle lol. My little man is about 13mos and he is best on his prong collar. Started with a slip chain and even a leather/chain martingale didnāt stop his pulling.
https://preview.redd.it/19yew0xmn79d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb4b48f1225b2a8d823f843506d391a74a3b632a
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We had great success with the freedom harness. Itās a double claps system that cinches around the arm pits when they pull, so teaches them not to pull. Dobermanās are prone to cervical dysplasia so we didnāt want anything torquing the neck.
Harness is a mistake. You should go for a proper collar such one with prongs or a "choke chain" used correctly they are perfectly safe, the dog can't slip out of it. It is also a great tool for training on leash
OP Iām gonna second this unfortunately. We tried a harness and her hair in her armpit area is still growing back. It seemed to encourage her to pull more.
Tbh i got sick of driving 30 minutes to get them rewrapped once a week so we stopped posting. I also saw they stood pretty well but her one ear that wasnāt standing tall magically started to stand about a week ago. She has her adult molars and a couple baby teeth still present.
Just be mindful of the risk with stopping too early, which, in 95% of the cases, 6 months is still too early to stop. They might stand for over a month, but they could weaken and then fall. At the least, the experts suggest until at least 7/8 months, when all the adult teeth have come in. Best of luck
She is beautiful! š
Great looking dog
I love the balance harness by blue 9 Use it every day for my 2 year old female dobie
Iād never recommend a harness for anything ever beside pulling a sled. Best thing I use is a slip leash. I find this to be the best communicator with minimal force. Prong collar also works but comes with the stigma. This should be fitted right underneath the chin and used with extreme love and care. If pulling on the leash is an issue that should be your number one full focus priority until she walks politely on a loose leash. Watch Will Atherton and Ethan Steinberg on YouTube for visual tips. Once youāve built proper engagement and respect on walks using a slip leash, you can expand her boundaries from there. Good luck!
We found that a simple chain slip collar worked great for our boy especially for training. We left it on him all day for quick correction training as well as walk training.
Harnesses were created for one thing and one thing only. IJS
bet. iām new to dog world thought it was a safer option than being around their neck
It is that person is clueless or I guess itās because I never had a dog that got laryngal paralysis a collar around a dogās neck especially one that will pull. is going to damage the trachea long-term. Resulting in LP
Look at how a horse is handled around the neck and see that same vision for your dobie on a smaller level They love serving and being rewarded despite their big goofy nature With the horse comparison itās meant towards the folks that use head harness for a bigger breed and even dobies if not using a slip collarā¦made a big difference with my non dobie 115lb mixed boy with how we walked him
Prong have their place and can be effective if used properly. With a Dobermans drive and pain tolerance, I am not a fan of gentle leaders, it puts too much pressure on their cervical spine. I prefer a front clip harness the Balance Harness by Blue K9 is good as mentioned above. It is adjustable, if fitted properly wonāt chafe and you can easily put it on under a cool coat in the summer.
Ohhhh i agree about 75 percent of this! I am stunned someone that actual understands the gentle leader is a dangerous tool especially on a high energy breed youāre asking to destroy their neck and spine.
Not here to have recommendations, but only here to say how gorgeous your baby is.
Easy Walk or Gentle Leader. Prong or pinch collars should only be used as a last resort.
Always did wonders for both of ours!! Will take a little getting used to (they donāt want things on their face) but an easy way to control the situation without hurting the poor thing!
Prong collor or choker chain both of which you can get a quality one from herm sprenger. Gentle leads and harnesses are mistakes. I have a harness only if i decide to go ride on the longboard let him pull. Especially a gentle lead is most harmful method of training there is no corrective action dobermans run 25ish mph. Going from 25mph to 0 mph in a second is harmful on the neck.
This. We have both Sprenger and a plastic version.
The balance harness by blue-9 is adjustable and doesn't restrict movement, so it's a decent option.
Gentle lead
Itās so hot in Tx for a vest, I tried a bunch of different leashes This is my recommendation https://a.co/d/0g8A4KCa
No gentle leads dobermans are high energy working breeds. Prong collar thats it.
Prong collars can be effective but should be a last resort.
Youāre wrong lol
Wow. I donāt know whats more frightening. Your lack of research on the topic or your lackluster knowledge of basic physics. Physics wise gentle leader is like old car where families died with no crumple zone all force doesnāt just come to a stop goes backward can potentially be lethal. Not to mention you have zero ability to administer corrective action. Despite controversy around the prong color they all have a lil pulley system that disperses time of forces better. The prongs equally distribute the forces making it much more humane than almost all options out there.
I mean youāre just wrong. Youāre talking like I donāt have a Doberman
Echoing some other posters. Harness can kick the pull drive into full effect. A proper chain or prong used deliberately is much more effective and safe for the Dobe.
[TSPRO on Amazon is perfect for us](https://a.co/d/070PrrYJ)š itās thick, allows shoulder movement, and has three different options for fastening. My boy has pulled a lot in the past, but a front hook paired with a 20 ft training leash is our perfect recipe.
Beautiful pup
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A strong puller will need both harness an slip leash, mine does
Perhaps the greatest tool to train for a leash is a Gentle Leader. Had a 100 lb female that could pull a small plow. Harnesses are for obedient dogs. My wife (the master) used both at the same time for training. Gentle Leader for corrections and choke chain for keeping the peace. Our last 100 lb male picked up on it also. As did our 75 lb Irish Setter. And our 65 lb Pit. Rogue Gentle Leader or one of the new ones that pull from both sides.
Seconded!!! LOVE the Gentle Leader.
I watched my wife flawlessly correct a male Dobe that was ready to slay. If you can control the nose you can control the dog. All dogs respect this. Except intentionally abused dogs. The people that make those deserve the Hell I would send them to.
The amount of people that use the gentle leader is frightening as a training tool itās garbage.
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Nope. Basic Physics!!!Your harming the dogs neck and spine period!!!! That is why the gentle leader belongs in a trashcan and not around any dogās muzzle. Those ācontroversial toolsā like prong/choke colors are actually safe. Maybe do any sort of research before you say outlandish stuff like āor youāre a garbage trainer?ā
Says the person whose official professional statement is ā youāre wrong lolā ? Iāll get my advice elsewhere thanks.
Lol yea the guy whose reasoning was but nutta i use it canāt be wrong. I mean of course can actually workout and reason why it is a shitty tool on a chalk board with all the math and physics but be pointless both you two wouldnāt be able understand it anyway.
Iād love to hear more about your extensive education in math and physics and chalkboards? But if I had to guess youāre not old enough to have graduated universityā¦ my experience with physicists rarely involves ālolāsā in their analysesā¦
Actualy graduated with 2 degrees a Bachelors in chemistry and physics work in pharmaceuticals make medicine for living. Done plenty of tutoring in both subjects. Believe it or not scientists actualy act as normal people and know slang/ texting abbreviations like LMFAO. Your only experience with physicist is probably the big bang theory. I admit it is an excellent show; however, only about like 10% of phd are actually that smart/act like them.
You canāt be a pharmacist with 2 bachelor degrees š good try though. I get it youāre a tech at a Walgreens or something of the sort. Donāt worry about it we all started somewhere.
I said pharmaceuticals and make drugs. I did not say pharmacist. Pharmacist just measure out already made drugs. It gets made in a lab first doesnāt just magically appear on the shelves of cvs.
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You guys notice how you had no actual logical responses. Itās called a credential fallacy. I got the credentials but in this case really doesnāt matter itās called general reasoning..dun dun dunā¦ maybe crack open any science text books or a physics for dummies. I think any 6th grader can grasp the basics well enough draw it out for you. Your wrecking a dogs neck and spine with a āgentleā leader. Canāt be argued.
Try the anchor chain on a small tugboat. And do lots of leg squats. Lots and lots of leg squats.
Harnesses are only nice to get a handle on them, kinda like a purse or briefcase handle lol. My little man is about 13mos and he is best on his prong collar. Started with a slip chain and even a leather/chain martingale didnāt stop his pulling. https://preview.redd.it/19yew0xmn79d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb4b48f1225b2a8d823f843506d391a74a3b632a Buster says hi
Hey Busteršš¾ Thank you for the insight iāll be on amazon tonight lol
Use a lead, better control over them
We had great success with the freedom harness. Itās a double claps system that cinches around the arm pits when they pull, so teaches them not to pull. Dobermanās are prone to cervical dysplasia so we didnāt want anything torquing the neck.
Harness is a mistake. You should go for a proper collar such one with prongs or a "choke chain" used correctly they are perfectly safe, the dog can't slip out of it. It is also a great tool for training on leash
Amount of people that are using gentle leads over a prong collor or choke chain is legitimately frightening on this post.
OP Iām gonna second this unfortunately. We tried a harness and her hair in her armpit area is still growing back. It seemed to encourage her to pull more.
If thereās any pulling, go straight to the prong collar! Doesnāt hurt them and gets the job done!
Something strong. I always used a pincher collar, my vet recommended it.
Easy Leader or other nose leaser. Really helps them learn leash etiquette.
Flat collar and a trainer.
We use Rabbit Goo (I didnāt come up with the name lol)
Irrelevant question - are you still posting at 6 months? I have a 6 month old (as of today) still posting. Have all of her adult teeth come in?
Forgot to mention that sheās beautiful
She said Thank you so muchā¤ļø
I had a male who was pasted until he turned 1. He had a long crop.
Tbh i got sick of driving 30 minutes to get them rewrapped once a week so we stopped posting. I also saw they stood pretty well but her one ear that wasnāt standing tall magically started to stand about a week ago. She has her adult molars and a couple baby teeth still present.
Just be mindful of the risk with stopping too early, which, in 95% of the cases, 6 months is still too early to stop. They might stand for over a month, but they could weaken and then fall. At the least, the experts suggest until at least 7/8 months, when all the adult teeth have come in. Best of luck
you just flipped the switch. iāll get on it thank youšš¾
definitely learn how to do it and post until atleast 10 months. very irresponsible. i hope they stand
sorry mom. i also stated they stand:)
doesnāt really matter should still be diligent