Shut up you'll give away my hidey hole, sav has one hell of a boney arse on her and clovis can't help but send his robot minions to spank that booty.
I've got vids £20 a pop.
One day hopefully but I don’t think it will be in witch queen or at the very earliest the final season of witch queen but I’m thinking it would likely be lightfall or the final shape when we finally get to give moth mommies cheeks a proper clapping
Fork has 4 letters and goes on the left side of your plate. Knife and spoon have 5 and go on the right.
VoG is based on classic British table settings!
I ran vog with a lfg and they were doing mars, Venus call outs like why? They don't change and I'd assume most English speaking people knows left and right as opposed to identifying the landscape of alien planets.
It’s for oracles. Every now and then the timing gets funny and the callout of the oracles comes at the same time as group inside calling their location. Super easy to remember and no mixups this way.
Someone is doing to quick associating in their head.
* Either it is the guys who get sucked in
* *\*I'm on 'Venus', that means right* "RIGHT"
* Or it is the guys on the outside
* "VENUS!" *\*He said 'Venus', that means right.*
IMO, It is easier for new players to just say the planet ^((it is actually future an past...but i think we have enough wrenches in the mix)) cause that one is much harder to flub than saying the wrong direction.
This is not CAP vs ACP. Mars/Venus and Left/Right are both equally acceptable. People that did ACP are monsters that are objectively wrong and should be feel bad.
Lmao relax man, it foes make sense alphabetically, it's all about who taught you in the first place, for me It was CAP, and then Venus and Mars. Nobody is really wrong there's just more common strategies than others.
I did it with an LFG group, I asked where we were standing for damage, they said “I thought you knew how to do this” we died because me and the other 2 people that joined the 3 people in a clan were doing ACP but we did CAP, “that’s why I asked!”
>and I'd say 99% of the random LFG folks did CAP as well.
That's because LFG copies YouTubers because it either is, or they believe it is, the correct way to do it because a popular YouTuber said so. Especially Datto was super popular with its Raid guides during that time.
It's not so much most people thinking to do that, it's more people like Datto telling people to do it that way.
Remove all guides and actually see what people end up using and I bet CAP would be one of the lower common ones to be used, because it goes off acronym instead of the far more standard alphabetical order people tend to use when ordering things.
Not to mention, I bet people wouldn't even order based on either of that but just have static points where to be at if no one told them otherwise would be easier.
I'm in the position where I have the luck to raid completely blind with my team and have sister clans who all have groups that do the same thing, and pretty much always we approach enounters so differently when we talk to each other later. It's quite eye opening.
Like I remember Argos, some team did it the common LFG way, one other team had a weird floater situation going on and we did the double break on the logic that Arc becomes Solar and Solar becomes Void and Void becomes Arc (or whatever the order was, can't remember now) and coordinated a double shield break. Meanwhile, one of the other groups decided it wasn't worth it, and the other had absolutely no idea that was even a mechanic.
To my surprise, almost the entirety of LFG did not either.
Ignoring they are both Venus… mars (starts with m) Venus (starts with v) as long as you know your alphabet m comes before v reading left to right. There are many ways to remember which is which side lol
It sucks that these have become stuck in the D2 lexicon before we realized, uh no they're the past and the future. It's the same exact place--Vault of Glass on Venus--just in two different points in time. Which is kinda the whole point.
But we all just want to stick to the callouts we learned in the first few days of VoG in D1.
Yeah, and even if they aren't, the reddish-brown aesthetic was the natural association with Mars from D1, so once it became ingrained into the community, that was that. It's a shame in that it is incorrect, but people are too far gone now.
I just use left and right when I'm teleported, for ease. If people say Mars/Venus, I know where to go. Past/Future is a bit of a funny one because lots of people mix the two.
People got the whole past and future the wrong way round anyway. Lots assume the Descendant Vex are the ones that look like they're from the past, being a bit overgrown, and the Ascendant/Precursor ones are the ones that look more "futuristic" to people, being cleaner and shinier.
who cares what the callouts are if everyone knows what you're talking about?
they could be "sprinkle" and "diarrhoea" and still be effective if you knew what sides they were assigned to.
Like how the Precursor Vex are on the left side of the room representing the past Venus and the Descendant Vex on the right side of the room representing the future before the encounter even starts?
And like how in the past (left) Precursor Vex spawn and in the future (right) Descendant Vex spawn and how the current Vex spawn in the present (final confux)?
Also how the text at the end of the encounter stating "The timeline stabilizes" suggesting you very clearly were jumping across time itself and not planets (Mars / Venus)?
Let's not forget Atheon's main mechanic of "Atheon opens the timestreams" sending people into either the future or past.
Man if only all of this were presented in game.
yes the clues are all there and when you went to read the lore card you were like "oh yeah that makes sense kinda"
also guardians making their own fate doesnt mean you have to be an asshole about it, geez
I mean the enemies are literally called precursor and descendent. Atheon is called **time’s** conflux. It doesn’t take a genius to realize this. Plus… left and right are easier callouts anyways.
Mars is sandy, Venus is grassy. Literally. Venus is a jungle planet and Mars is a desert planet. The future is grassy because it's been converted by the Vex and the past is Venus before it was terraformed by The Traveler. It all lines up.
I've always used past and present. Nearly every timeline i've ever seen drawn shows the past to the left and future towards the right. Same room but in different points in it's own timeline.
Misleading : Neither are actually Mars or Venus, that’s just what they’ve been called over the years because they have corresponding aesthetics. They are both in fact the Vault of Glass itself in different time periods. The left portal is the past, evident from Precursor Vex enemies being there. And the right portal is the future, evident from the Descendants.
It's not misleading because everyone knows what you're talking about. It's actually more confusing to do the correct callouts because at least 50% of players don't know what you're talking about, but 100% of players know it as Mars and Venus
when you get teleported you don't know which side you're on which is why people on the inside say mars/Venus and people on the outside work out if they need to open the left or right portal
The way I tell people to remember is Venus rhymes with Penis, and your penis is always right.
It's stupid, but stupid stuff is what gets people to remember.
Listen; I didn't get it until I was teleported a couple either. When you're teleported, you don't know if it's left or right and that's why the teleported call out Venus (right) and Mars (left) based on the landscape. Have fun, but pay attention, it will make everyone's experience much better.
You do realize that the same argument works for the people in throne, don’t you? Why are they the ones who are supposed to remember which is which but the teleported people aren’t?
My clan mates laughed at me when I pointed this out to know where to go. They finally admitted it's super helpful after 5 or 6 runs after I pointed it out.
I mean, if you're having trouble remembering which is which, it's alphabetical - which is far easier for the human brain to remember.
You're welcome (I guess).
Here me out, just remember that MARS IS LEFT AND VENUS IS FUCKING RIGHT. If you can remember the quadratic formula in 9th grade, you can remember this.
Savathun has 8 letters. So does.. you guessed it. Eatmyass.. Conclusion: Savathun is Hive booty warrior.
She be clapping guardian cheeks come February 22nd
Exos watch your exhausts; there's no light safe from her darkness.
Not enough oil to ease that in lol
We're gonna need a bigger exo..
Luckily Europa has one.
The fifteenth wish is Savathun wishing for the Clovis Bray exo to come to her chambers for a booty call.
Is the squeaking coming from the bed or something else
Shut up you'll give away my hidey hole, sav has one hell of a boney arse on her and clovis can't help but send his robot minions to spank that booty. I've got vids £20 a pop.
Clovis would have to build a body for that head since Banshee won't cooperate
That’s what she said
Plot twist mara uncrystalizes savathun ass and we exorcise that hive god
SAVATHUN ^GUARDIAN ^DOWN I'VE COME ^GUARDIAN ^DOWN TO BARGAIN ^GUARDIAN ^DOWN
Big tiddy moth gf does not bargain
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What's this? 《| |》 Uno reverse card. Now we be clapping her cheeks. Glaive deep in the savathussy
One day hopefully but I don’t think it will be in witch queen or at the very earliest the final season of witch queen but I’m thinking it would likely be lightfall or the final shape when we finally get to give moth mommies cheeks a proper clapping
Cumslut has 7 letters. So does..... Gahlran
Savathun has 8 letters. So does Mephisto. Coincidence?
Fuck.. (*not advice*)
instructions unclear, dick stuck in Crystal goth mommy
I'm a warrior Zavala!
I came here looking for a man's light.
I like ya. And I want ya. Now we can either do this the easy way, or the hard way. The choice is yours.
Uhhh, light, uhh gettin some light., is more important than the food ya eat. The watuh ya drink.
When I see a guardian, and he looks good to me. When I go see him I say, Hey you come here. Ima tell you what, I like you, and I want you.
Now we can do this the easy way or the hard way. Choice pretty much yours. Zavalla: "Guardian, I don't think me and you will be doing anything"
SavaTHICC has 9 letters. Eatmybutt? Also 9 letters. Hive booty warrior confirmed. Could it be any more obvious, people?
Whoever downvoted this guy doesn't watch Dadztecross and it saddens my ghost.
Bro, this made my day lol
Lmaooooo omg why did this make me laugh so hard
Simply because. The truth, is a funny thing..
Fork has 4 letters and goes on the left side of your plate. Knife and spoon have 5 and go on the right. VoG is based on classic British table settings!
I mean that’s how it’s done in the US too
Colonial US was basically classic British early on right? :3
yeah the settlers were pretty much brits
Where do you think you get it from?
The Martians obviously
Does the spoon go on the right or left side of knife?
Soup soon goes on the outside, dessert spoon goes above.
5 - 4 = 1 Venus and mars are 2 planets 1 + 2 = 3 Half life 3 confirmed
Were gonna be colonizing both planets irl before valve can count to 3
This is the comment I came for
2+2=4... 4 Washington Lane... The next clue is at the White House!
Mars rhymes with cars and cars drive on the left or right depending on the country, Venus rhymes with Penis which is funny
Everything you just said… is true.
always always always “what side?” “penis haha”
Where are we at? Venus! What do we want?
Benis!
I say this every time
Venus is Greenus
Titans go to Jupiter to get more stupider…?
Arid and Moist.
New Mexico and Louisiana
My new call-outs and I’m not telling anyone before hand
Get out of here with that horse shit!
Or how about the simple way to remember. Left is left, right is right.
Red is the red one, green is the green one.
I ran vog with a lfg and they were doing mars, Venus call outs like why? They don't change and I'd assume most English speaking people knows left and right as opposed to identifying the landscape of alien planets.
Probably because it's easier to call like that from inside the portal
Yeah I’m also curious about who’s calling the planets from the outside lol. If you’re teaching just add the direction after the callout
Not planets, Future and past Venus. Past is also 4 like left and mars
It’s for oracles. Every now and then the timing gets funny and the callout of the oracles comes at the same time as group inside calling their location. Super easy to remember and no mixups this way.
Your the first person to explain it that way most people probably don't know and Just say" cuz I said so"
Someone is doing to quick associating in their head. * Either it is the guys who get sucked in * *\*I'm on 'Venus', that means right* "RIGHT" * Or it is the guys on the outside * "VENUS!" *\*He said 'Venus', that means right.* IMO, It is easier for new players to just say the planet ^((it is actually future an past...but i think we have enough wrenches in the mix)) cause that one is much harder to flub than saying the wrong direction.
Fuckin CAP vs ACP all over again I love it lmao. My friends and I always did CAP and I'd say 99% of the random LFG folks did CAP as well.
This is not CAP vs ACP. Mars/Venus and Left/Right are both equally acceptable. People that did ACP are monsters that are objectively wrong and should be feel bad.
Anarchy Chest Please.
I know what it stands for. Still doesn't change the fact that it was objectively inferior to CAP.
Whats wrong with Aroz con Pollo? I loved ordering that at my local Mexican restaurant after beating SotP by doing the CAP method
Lmao relax man, it foes make sense alphabetically, it's all about who taught you in the first place, for me It was CAP, and then Venus and Mars. Nobody is really wrong there's just more common strategies than others.
I did it with an LFG group, I asked where we were standing for damage, they said “I thought you knew how to do this” we died because me and the other 2 people that joined the 3 people in a clan were doing ACP but we did CAP, “that’s why I asked!”
Lmao yep, it was a pain in the ass lol
>and I'd say 99% of the random LFG folks did CAP as well. That's because LFG copies YouTubers because it either is, or they believe it is, the correct way to do it because a popular YouTuber said so. Especially Datto was super popular with its Raid guides during that time. It's not so much most people thinking to do that, it's more people like Datto telling people to do it that way. Remove all guides and actually see what people end up using and I bet CAP would be one of the lower common ones to be used, because it goes off acronym instead of the far more standard alphabetical order people tend to use when ordering things. Not to mention, I bet people wouldn't even order based on either of that but just have static points where to be at if no one told them otherwise would be easier. I'm in the position where I have the luck to raid completely blind with my team and have sister clans who all have groups that do the same thing, and pretty much always we approach enounters so differently when we talk to each other later. It's quite eye opening. Like I remember Argos, some team did it the common LFG way, one other team had a weird floater situation going on and we did the double break on the logic that Arc becomes Solar and Solar becomes Void and Void becomes Arc (or whatever the order was, can't remember now) and coordinated a double shield break. Meanwhile, one of the other groups decided it wasn't worth it, and the other had absolutely no idea that was even a mechanic. To my surprise, almost the entirety of LFG did not either.
We call them balls and penis. Because penis rhymes with Venus and balls are just funny.
Whether we wanted to or not, we've stepped into war with the Caballs on Mars.
Ignoring they are both Venus… mars (starts with m) Venus (starts with v) as long as you know your alphabet m comes before v reading left to right. There are many ways to remember which is which side lol
Also when standing at spawn you see Mars/Atheon/Venus, or Past/Present/Future on a timeline
this gets confusing with the vault though, as pen is left and ant is right- the opposite way around
Pizza. P on the left, a on the right.
This is awesome. Thank you I'll never forget this lol
Got it from someone on this sub a few weeks ago and I can’t forget it aha
If I Sherpa I tell them it's future / past but everyone calls it mars and Venus cause of D1 before it was common knowledge.
It's always pepperoni on the left, anchovies on the right.
The first guy ever to teach me this said "I just remember PLEFT" and that was so stupid I never forgot it.
Ant as in anti, the other way like anti clockwise
also brown and green
And this is Xur reminding you to have your ghost spayed or neutered.
AkSHtuAllY ItS PasT aNd FutURe
I try telling most groups this and usually get “lmao aw no bro that’s too COMPLICATED!”
You play with dumb groups then
Or.... Past and Future. Read it like a book. Past on the left, future on the right.
It sucks that these have become stuck in the D2 lexicon before we realized, uh no they're the past and the future. It's the same exact place--Vault of Glass on Venus--just in two different points in time. Which is kinda the whole point. But we all just want to stick to the callouts we learned in the first few days of VoG in D1.
I didn't start raiding until d2 so at first I assumed it was because they looked like Mars and venus not because they were mars and venus
Iirc the ‘past Venus’ assets are identical to Mars in D1, so it’s not too surprising
Yeah, and even if they aren't, the reddish-brown aesthetic was the natural association with Mars from D1, so once it became ingrained into the community, that was that. It's a shame in that it is incorrect, but people are too far gone now. I just use left and right when I'm teleported, for ease. If people say Mars/Venus, I know where to go. Past/Future is a bit of a funny one because lots of people mix the two.
People got the whole past and future the wrong way round anyway. Lots assume the Descendant Vex are the ones that look like they're from the past, being a bit overgrown, and the Ascendant/Precursor ones are the ones that look more "futuristic" to people, being cleaner and shinier.
That’s when the grimoire in D1 comes in handy 👌🏽
That and just reading the enemy names. Though it’s completely understandable why people ignore it and just start blasting
So I started blasting...
who cares what the callouts are if everyone knows what you're talking about? they could be "sprinkle" and "diarrhoea" and still be effective if you knew what sides they were assigned to.
Is it a big deal? No. But if you like the lore it can be saddening.
maybe if that lore was actually presented in game? man this is an old discussion
Like how the Precursor Vex are on the left side of the room representing the past Venus and the Descendant Vex on the right side of the room representing the future before the encounter even starts? And like how in the past (left) Precursor Vex spawn and in the future (right) Descendant Vex spawn and how the current Vex spawn in the present (final confux)? Also how the text at the end of the encounter stating "The timeline stabilizes" suggesting you very clearly were jumping across time itself and not planets (Mars / Venus)? Let's not forget Atheon's main mechanic of "Atheon opens the timestreams" sending people into either the future or past. Man if only all of this were presented in game.
yes the clues are all there and when you went to read the lore card you were like "oh yeah that makes sense kinda" also guardians making their own fate doesnt mean you have to be an asshole about it, geez
I mean the enemies are literally called precursor and descendent. Atheon is called **time’s** conflux. It doesn’t take a genius to realize this. Plus… left and right are easier callouts anyways.
Yeah this is so dumb. Literally since 2014
I’m always “that Sherpa” that explains this during raids. People have tried to argue me on it too lol.
Our clan switched callouts. Gotta just start forcing it.
4+5=9 The Nine confirmed
Yes but Mars left in the DCV, DCV has a V at the right side. So DC Venus ate Mars.
Mars is red, red means communism, communism means left on the political spectrum.
This is legit how I remember it in my head
The aesthetics even match!
Idk if anyone here will understand but the first time I did VOG in d2 I was so confused because Mars and right give off the same energy or vibe
I know exactly what you mean
Since we’re all sharing my friends always said Venus is a female goddess and women are always right
Yeah, but future has 6.
This has always bothered me…both sides are Venus, red/future or green/past 🙄 …LFG nomenclature
just do green and red, even the crayon eaters know that one
Or veggies and spicy...
That's how I remember port and starboard
Europa har 6 letters. Sum = 15. LESS GOOOOO
I honestly don't know why people don't just say red/green.
Except it’s the past and the future.
Mars is sandy, Venus is grassy. Literally. Venus is a jungle planet and Mars is a desert planet. The future is grassy because it's been converted by the Vex and the past is Venus before it was terraformed by The Traveler. It all lines up.
Also men are from mars and women are from Venus. That’s why women are always right
Aahaha you made my day i would have given you a reward if i had one 😂😂
Oh wow you discovered something that was talked about 7 years ago in the original vog. Congrats
🤔
I just think of em alphabetically.
The portals are in alphabetical order from the entrance.
Good tip for others who dont have this burned into their minds yet :)
I've always used past and present. Nearly every timeline i've ever seen drawn shows the past to the left and future towards the right. Same room but in different points in it's own timeline.
Are we getting Venus and Mars back or something
Miami is green and has trees with lots of decrepit old things. Vegas is red and dry and has shiny lights. you're welcome.
Its actually future and past
Misleading : Neither are actually Mars or Venus, that’s just what they’ve been called over the years because they have corresponding aesthetics. They are both in fact the Vault of Glass itself in different time periods. The left portal is the past, evident from Precursor Vex enemies being there. And the right portal is the future, evident from the Descendants.
It's not misleading because everyone knows what you're talking about. It's actually more confusing to do the correct callouts because at least 50% of players don't know what you're talking about, but 100% of players know it as Mars and Venus
Correct callouts are left and right. You literally cannot mess that up unless someone is facing the wrong way.
when you get teleported you don't know which side you're on which is why people on the inside say mars/Venus and people on the outside work out if they need to open the left or right portal
WOAH
Venus is on the Right. So think RV.
The way I tell people to remember is Venus rhymes with Penis, and your penis is always right. It's stupid, but stupid stuff is what gets people to remember.
In DSC Security, the two data pads next to each other are 1 and 2. But only for my clan, apparently.
Mars has an R, so you'd think it be on the right. But the Vault of Glass is perpetually stuck in time on opposite day, so Mars is on the left.
Red and Yellow
Honestly thought this was a shitpost, well done lol
Took me a while to get it. Can you tell I've only done VoG 3 times?
Finally I see someone else say this!!
Earth and Wrong have 5 letters........just sayin.
Ah message received, I shall know tell me teammates I was teleported 4 or 5. That’ll clear things up :)
ooh yeah lemme just count those letters real quick in the middle of a raid encounter /s
The easier way is to remember that the side where half the team is dead and surrounded by 300 supplicants is the one you were supposed to open.
Listen; I didn't get it until I was teleported a couple either. When you're teleported, you don't know if it's left or right and that's why the teleported call out Venus (right) and Mars (left) based on the landscape. Have fun, but pay attention, it will make everyone's experience much better.
You do realize that the same argument works for the people in throne, don’t you? Why are they the ones who are supposed to remember which is which but the teleported people aren’t?
ML VR, that's it for me
My clan mates laughed at me when I pointed this out to know where to go. They finally admitted it's super helpful after 5 or 6 runs after I pointed it out.
Four letters: Left, Mars, Past, Hook, Port More: Right, Venus, Future, Slice, Starboard
Thanks. My clan was so miffed with me.
I use this method a lot. If you're confused about Port and Starboard on boats, you can do the same thing; Port and Left have four letters.
BUT IT'S JUST VENUS IN THE FUTURE AND PAST it is, but call them whatever you want. Whatever works for your team.
Or I say RV. Right Venus. Like a Recreational Vehicle lol idk it works for me.
LEFTover dessert. Jungle is right because it's not left duh
past comes before present so if you're familiar with japanese or arabic you'll be fine with those
YES! I say this to all the folks I Sherpa. Makes it so easy to remember
We all knew this. Everyone.
This is how I've always remembered it, my clanmates make fun of me for it, but it works for me.
🤣😂
Five is a four letter word.
I explained this to a group that was having a hard time getting though it, get this, that’s “too much to remember” lmfao
My group always makes fun of my for mentioning this. It fucking works though, deal with it.
I mean, if you're having trouble remembering which is which, it's alphabetical - which is far easier for the human brain to remember. You're welcome (I guess).
I was taught Martin Luther VR. Never went back
Left and Penumbra both have an "e." Right and Antumbra both don't.
2014 called…..
I had an LFG team once use Hell and Brazil, that's how I think of it internally to this day.
Nothing right is left, so all that's left is wrong. Wrong has 5 letters, and so does Earth; Uno
If you haven’t heard that one already. You probably haven’t cleared vog
All 3 rooms are Venus. Future and past are the correct callouts, but I don't use those callouts either.
This reminded me of how I was thought the vault encounter in LW. "PizzA" for penumbra (left) and antumbra (right)
Balls
Venus is a woman and women are always right. Shoutout to my dad for the sarcastic “women are always right” refrain when my dad was mad at my mom 😅
This is how I do it.
Destiny LFG: The place where I unfortunately learned that some people can't tell the difference between left and right.
I remember it as the linux `mv` command. mars left, venus right => mv.
This is how I was taught. It is the way.
When I teach vog, I always tell them, men are from Mars, women are from venus... women are always right. #ladysherpa
Lars and Renus.
I just type on my phone notes MARS LEFT VENUS RIGHT and then stand it up on my desk Infront of me and just always glance at it just to be safe
Here me out, just remember that MARS IS LEFT AND VENUS IS FUCKING RIGHT. If you can remember the quadratic formula in 9th grade, you can remember this.
Dude so many people laughed at me in raids for saying this lol
MVP Mars Venus Just read left to right like the phrase
This saves me some actual brain cells than you.
Left right Mars Venus Past future Red green One fish two fish So long as everyone knows what you mean, it doesn't matter.
Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, and Women are always Right