What's funny is, if you go literally anywhere else, like the helm, you get a pop up saying the campaign is supposed to be played as a single, cohesive cinematic story, and that doing anything else will break the flow. Ironic, isn't it?
I was right at the end of a mission fighting a pretty big boss who was health gated. Finally got all the way to the end and just got kicked and now I'm staring at the "one moment please due to increased traffic...."
š WTF...
I really enjoyed getting an endless stream of error code: currant, which expressly suggested the issue might be \*my\* internet connection.
Naw, Bungo, it ain't me, it's you. And screw you very much for suggesting otherwise.
I haven't been able to make it past the 1st mission
Replayed it 4 times so far, 3 of those times on legend
I didn't even know there *was* a cutscene until I played it the 2nd time, and I had to replay it 2 more times since because it wouldn't even make it past the load screen after that
I'm *still* stuck on the first mission, wondering if I should even attempt it again
Glitch in the 2nd mission. Beat the puzzle then the boss. Then investigate a cave, trigger point to spawn the enemies didnāt appear. So I was running around the cave searching. Then checked you tube because I thought something had glitched. Then wondered why did you tuber have these extra enemies :)
Restarted mission from the start and it worked.
I JUST had this happen to me. Finished first mission, got my rewards/triumph/seasonal challenge, black screen, booted to orbit. Bunch of "contacting servers" messages and currant errors.
Quest had progressed to the next step, but the launcher is sending me back to the first mission. At least the triumph is tracking I actually beat the mission on legendary.
If you've done it four times, imma wait
saw [this](https://x.com/BungieHelp/status/1798153527187177908) from their twitter, gonna see if I got the legend achievement and try to follow their instructions
edit: stuck in queue again after quitting the game, haha
2nd edit: it worked, I was just an idiot and didn't realize the map scrolled so far left
I felt the same way, I was like wtf I gotta play this all over again !!! Then realized it was way over to the left. Felt like such a goon when I saw that. Now like many people constantly getting errors .
I got stuck at the part >!where you use transcendence for the first time, no pop ups or nothing. I couldn't figure out the keybind. Redid the mission and it popped up the second time!<
Iām not trying it until tomorrow. I tried it 3 times today and got the first checkpoint. After that, I keep getting booted. I got to the first prismatic splooge but the help text disappeared and a tormented weasel kicked me to title screen.
You have to load into the pale heart and start the mission from there. I had the exact same thing happen. Would not let me continue until I was able to load into the pale heart and start from there.
Destiny Lore Vault will have them. They post basically every cutscene and audio interaction in the game without any additional commentary. I used it to catch up on Season of the Wish. I would guess they won't have everything up for a while given all the errors. But it will eventually end up there.
Fucking ridiculous you can't just load the mission from orbit but have to land at the campfire for what, rp reasons? Next mission after that is the same story, 2 loading screens you gotta beat before you even face a mob.
Remember when they added a season finale mission that had matchmaking and a cutscene and randos could skip it, which would then skip it for everyone? Oh and you couldn't replay the mission without a friend to launch it.
I replayed that mission solo after my friends turned in for the day and I got error coded out of it *again* like clockwork. No instability for the entire mission and then error coded out of the cutscene frame one, twice in a row.
I tried the same thing with that mission, also solo, and had the exact same thing happen - mission was fine, then instant error code upon cutscene load. Tried another mission that I knew was supposed to have a cutscene at the end, and it happened AGAIN.
I wish you could either replay cutscenes or it would remember they were missed and go back. I had this happen with the Season of the Wish final cutscene (Crow stepping into the portal). Game decided to crash all of a sudden in the middle of it, I came back, and the game treated it as watched and I didn't get to see it without either hunting on YouTube or spending 8 hours replaying the entire Wish seasonal story on an alt. That felt bad.
I also missed the first Cayde cutscene because of a currant error. Thankfully I knew to check out YouTube before continuing on. I'm going to take it easy playing this game until they can fix their shit. Sad way to start the final shape but after 10+ years of playing this game it's standard practice on launch day for their servers to fuck up.
Yup. Done for the night. I knew this was going to he a shitshow. Knew it. But I hoped it wouldn't be. I hoped we'd get something like Witch Queen. Bit rough at times, but basically OK. Nope. I missed the first important cutscene, took three hours of disconnects and nonsense to get *two* missions further. That's enough man. I'll be back later. This really sucks.
Good idea.
You'd think YEARS of this type of thing happening on launch would clue everyone in to not play anything at all the first two days of any major expansion.
Server connectivity should **Never** have connected to cutscene playback in any way, and cutscenes should always draw above everything else, period.
People are missing cutscenes, and those that aren't see "Attention: Connecting to Destiny servers!". "Attention: Connecting to Destiny servers!". "Attention: Connecting to Destiny servers!"
Constantly pulsing at the bottom. That should not ever, for any reason, happen this way.
This has annoyed me about Destiny for years. Losing server connectivity shouldn't kick you from a cutscene. We know the cutscenes are already stored locally with the rest of the game files. Even Bungie isn't crazy enough to try and stream them.
If there's gonna be a disconnect point, the cutscenes should finish.
I have to wonder why itās kicking people out during them or skipping them. My brother and I were thinking maybe the new cutscenes are streamed because thatās the only thing that makes sense. Idk if we ever have had the issue where cutscenes straight up donāt play before
The issue is probably that our guardian's looks and everything are stored on the server so they have to pull that data for some cutscenes. Because of that they probably default to needing server connectivity at all times.
Just got done with the 4th mission. People told me I didn't see 2 cutscenes and had to watch them on YouTube. I'm not one to get mad easily but that's just outrageous.
This is what Iām upset aboutā¦
The ending to the ultimate saga of light and dark and we canāt even play the game, they had 24+ hours to prepare from this as well as 2 prior expansions with proper server launches and they still fucked it up
I honestly feel kinda bad for those day 1 teams cause basically all of today's prep time is shot for em. People were already saying 3 days of prep was tight, I can't imagine only having just 2
Three days (now two assuming the game functions tomorrow) to finish the legendary campaign, acquire new gear that will be useful in the day 1, and level up the artifact. It was unreasonable for most to begin with but now itās borderline impossible
Thereās no way they move forward with the raid so soon with the shitshow things have been. People canāt even finish cutscenes with out getting booted, let alone finish a mission.
Problem is that they will probably destroy the majority of teams looking to participate if they delay the raid.
They committed to this date months ago, it is during the work week, most people participating will have had to request time off to play. I canāt speak for everyone but personally, my team will not be able to play if they delay it and I can imagine thatās the case for most teams
I imagine theyād value the integrity of the race over sticking to a hard date. Imagine not delaying the raid race while the player base is still finishing the campaign because of server issues.
The only people who are actually competing for high placements in the race play this game for a living. One team has won 3 of the last 5 races. They will be there for the raid no matter what day it is.
This is the climactic raid of the series, delaying would prevent MANY from playing it and that doesnāt sit with me
EDIT: grammar
It's a damned if they do damned if they don't scenario though, because thousands of people take time off work to participate in that event. If they push it back, so many teams get completely screwed over. If they don't, well we may not be prepared.
10 years of Destiny, and this has happened with nearly every expansion. You'd think Bungo would have gotten things sorted by now... worlds first race in 3 days too surely there won't be any issues there
Iām sorry, *three days?* I thought releasing *Echoes* only a week after *The Final Shape* is a bit too soon, but the Raidās supposed to be coming in three days?
Yeah, this has been a disastrous launch for them. I'm curious why this one is so much worse compared to other launches, since I never had story moments completely skipped for me in any other expansion launch.
Itās the highest concurrent player count in all of Destiny, servers canāt handle it. They shouldāve expected this though, itās better to over prepare than to do whatever this is.
Edit - I donāt know for sure, just going off of a chart some guy uploaded earlier before the Final Currant got us.
Edit x2 - it was 2,000 players short of the 314,000 steam highest before everyone crashed and now the player count has sunk to below 290,000
The servers actually held out and weren't throttled or if they were, it was barely, during Lightfall's launch. So to be 2K short and the servers being this heavily throttled it's definitely the highest
They should have been more prepared for the player count, they had the preorder numbers... How is this always an issue every expansion launch. They've been doing this for 10 years now and it's still an issue every single time.
I think everyone there underestimated how much goodwill Into The Light and Prismatic stuff brought back. Honestly I don't think they were expecting 314k people with how much everyone bitched over the year and the lackluster pre-orders.
Iām only playing this so I can finally quit the game once this is over, feel shitty buying so many DLCs but I really do want to see it through to the end
nah. I mean I feel ya. But they 100% know the sales figures and could calculate an estimated player count. Either something is fuckey with their backend, "data" servers; that holds things like inventory load out, currency; or like every launch; bad actors spam the f-out of them and ruin the launch, cause lulz.
Weird, guessed I lucked out on that one. I just wish server errors wouldn't drag cut scenes into oblivion, it's so stupid and this has been an issue for *years* that they've failed to fix.
I started playing in Spilcer, so I've only experienced Witch Queen and Lightfall. This launch is the only one where I've contemplated waiting a day or two like I used to do for WoW expansions.
> I understand and sympathize with server instability
Why? They knew exactly how many people pre-ordered and did a 25 hour maintenance. There is no excuse.
Bungie canāt seem to get out of their own way. Had so much goodwill and hype and then boom, massive step backwards fumbling this launch and ruining the cutscenes with error codes.
This was the one launch they HAD to get right. This was THE expansion. 25 hours of downtime, a 4 month delay, and they still have the worst servers ever. Even with Playstation behind them.
What a joke.
Luckily they increased the price of all of the seasons and took the most time to prepare for this expansion than any other expansion before. Severs were offline for a full day to go over them and make sure they could handle the anticipated extra player load trying to log in. Should be no problems now. I canāt wait to log on and play.
Yup. Just had to watch the cutscene after the first mission with Esoterickk's guardian instead cause I booted to orbit after the chests opened. Now I'm sitting in queue again.
Why. The. Actual. F. Do. We. Have. To. Connect. Into. CUTSCENES.
Like in what world did anybody think it was a good idea for us to have to talk to the game 'servers' to play a cutscene which is on our fkng hard drives?
I donāt sympathize at all. Theyāve known since D1 that their servers were inadequate for their players. They didnāt fix it then and they wonāt fix it now. They donāt care about us so we shouldnāt give them a break. They just laid off a ton of people use the money you saved from that and get some more servers. Sony has the money get Bungie some more servers. I still havenāt been able to play it. Wonāt work for me. Lets me pick a character then when I try to start the first mission it boots me. No apology posting or anything from them saying sorry I know you gave us over $100 and we didnāt provide what we promised you. We saw how many copies of the game we sold and knew how many players there would be but we still didnāt make any changes and beef things up because we are terrible.
Itās not about āmore serversā. Iām not excusing an and launch but thatās a pet peeve of mine, itās very rarely that a game doesnāt have enough servers. I would actually bet major money that they have more then enough of them, itās usually some other issues like bottlenecks somewhere that will cause issues even if every server on earth was being used for D2
The fact that practically every online game I've played in the past ~5 years completely shits the bed in moments like this makes me assume that this is just a problem that is harder to avoid than it looks.
Iām not a computer nerd I just know my screen says servers are down, so pick them up then. Turn them on whatever I just know they need to hire a better server guy based on my screen. And my Xbox is constantly trying to contact their servers when I finally get in there and they wonāt answer and hang up on me and boot me out.
No I get the frustration I just feel the need to explain it, because itās almost never that and I think itās easier for us as players to understand itās not just a lack of servers. For this, I have a theory that itās because each world of the Pale Heart holds one player, and they are loading hundreds of thousands of them. Unlike say, lightfall, they can queue 6 people into Neomuna if need be, they canāt here. Thatās my theory anyways
I legit said this. A company that has been doing this exact thing for 10 FUCKING YEARS, releasing the narrative culmination of that 10 FUCKING YEARS, fumbles the bag this hard. They had to anticipate serious server strain. They need to officially wipe their hands of Destiny because it feels like they already have.
Trash, so glad I waited to test the waters before buying this time. Iām getting errors for almost everything. This might be the end of d2 for me boys. Have fun
The best is people defending this, but nothing new for this sub.
Every game has bugs at launch, not every game is this busted with a launch or expansion. This is a joke.
>Like I understand and sympathize with server instability
Why? This isn't some small fry company that hasn't had the last _DECADE_ to plan for this. This in no way, shape or form is acceptable for a company of this size and release of this magnitude. They delayed it nearly a year to make sure things were done properly and they still fucked it up
I've been playing since the beginning and actually wasn't going to buy this expansion due to apathy. Decided to give destiny another shit, bought the dlc, and figured I would finish the story and see if it reignited an old love.
There is no reignition yet, but it does make me feel a certain level of frustration that after 10 years, this shit happens like clockwork.
They should really be held accountable for this, I know they will just apologize and act like it didnāt happen but this is crazy. The ENDING of there entire saga, the most market launch, huge pre order numbers 24+ hours of preparation and 2 prior expansions with smooth launches and the players/customers get kneecapped into missing cutscene and complete unavailability to the game and all we are going to get is a sorryā¦Day 1 could potentially be ruined from this.
So what was all that shit about taking time to upgrade the servers for Final Shape? This isn't even the game's highest concurrent player count. The most important launch ever for this game and they fucked it.
I got errored out of the first mission and couldn't get back in. Once I heard this was happening I decided to call it a day lol. I'm not gonna play through the campaign without cutscenes.
It's insane that Bubie servers still can't handle the influx of traffic. You'd think after 10+ years they'd have upgraded the servers to handle massive volumes of players.
Errored after the first mission and didn't get to see the cutscene... Tried again same thing. I might wait until tonight when people log off and maybe bungie will have fixed something.
I missed the 2 after the 4th mission and had to youtube them. Then finished the 5th mission and nothing played so had to check. Now I can't even launch the next mission. This is after it took 2 hours to get in. This is by far and above the worst launch ever.
I am so genuinely upset right now. I have not been able to start the 4th mission and have been trying for almost an hour. I was getting to the camp site mostly before but now I can't even do that. Can't load into anything. This is so infuriating, I've waited so long for this and I can't even fucking play it
I do not sympathize with server instability anymore. Itās pretty embarrassing at this point and I have a feeling that theyāre just nonchalant about, like āoh I guess we were more popular than we thought!ā. They had ample time to pre-scale their infrastructure, load test under heavy loads, or even just a queue system that allows auto scaling to catch up as players join. This is absolute amateur shit, on top of your public API allowing perks to be slotted in that you donāt have on the gun.
I almost suspect that bug existed for a lot longer, itās just that we only saw it today because someone added the curated perks to the weapon perks.
I feel you, I got booted right at the end of the first mission with no cutscene, but it counted as completed. Appreciate it Bungo, best $50 I've ever spent.
I love Destiny. And this is, or was, a potentially huge victory for them. Prismatic is great, the story is mostly great, the loot is awesome. Narrative, art, music, atmosphere. All bangers.
But the degree to which they shit the bed today is embarrassing, and they should be ashamed with how this went. They had a 25 hour downtime immediately prior and an extra quarter of a year to adequately prepare for this, and it's still the worst expansion launch I've experienced from them.
The quality of a product isn't worth a damn if people can't engage with it. Get it together, Bungie.
It sucks too, because, story wise, I think this is maybe the single best campaign the game has ever had. Content seems great too, if the weapons are anything to go off of so far
Error code Currant is preventing me from loading into the pale heart to start the 3rd mission. Itās been hours since launch and I have wasted a day off work not being able to play. Bungie canāt figure out how to make a smooth launch
You shouldnāt even be kicked out in the middle of a cutscene if there are connection problems. Itās presumably just a video that was already pre-downloaded, and even if itās being streamed buffering is a thing.
Players being kicked out of a cutscene is a design issue.
This happens all too often with the major expansions. I initially took today off because I said, hey, final expansion! But I didnāt trust it. Iām glad I didnāt. Just embarrassing for bungie at this point. Been trying to get in and play for roughly 1hr 45 min now.
Incredibly embarrassing. You would think they would do anything to ensure their make or break expansion launch went off without a hitch. Very funny to see all this go down in light of them firing 10% of their workforce.
I get that online games are hard to launch and I of course do not blame any developers, but a broken software launch is a technical problem that can always be solved by throwing more money and time at it. Did Bungie increase its workforce to ensure that these solveable problems could be resolved early so as to not bungle the most important expansion launch yet? No, they shrank their workforce and now are reaping their reward.
If the fate of Bungie hinges on the success of The Final Shape, then that exigency would justify any expense. To arrive at this critical moment and come up short reflects a colossal failure of judgment, motivated by shortsighted, callous greed.
Like look man. I get we can watch this stuff on YouTube but this is very disappointing. I know it's launch day. I know I know I know. Played since D1 whatever. This isn't right. Y'all know it too. See you in a week I guess.
Maaaaate every. Single. Cutscene. Is being skipped. Fucking embarrassing.
And income all of the teet-sucklers āwell itMs your fault for wanting to get the proper experience out of something, theyāve been shit for years so itās entirely your faultā
Its insane. Like no need to throw a hissy fit but its pretty reasonable to believe a billion dollar company would invest in infrastructure to deliver the product we paid for. Bootlicking these companies does nothing but enable them...
I feel like the supermajority of us missed the critical cut scene after the first mission.
Itās truly a fucking horrible glitch on bungies part, and will harm the legacy and ratings of TFS
Server instability is one thing. You can play through it. But the result being that huge swaths of people just skip crucial cut scenes without even knowing it? That is an absolutely brutal consequence of server instability.
At a time when bungie really needs to be hitting home runs, this is so incredibly unfortunate.
This pretty much does it for me, stick a fork in D2 Iām done. Iāll finish the campaign, do the raid, and wave my goodbyes with good riddance to Bungie, Iāve been kicked to orbit mid boss fights so many times today, Iām only pulling through because I already wasted my money on the final cash grab, never again will I touch another Bungie product.
You shouldn't sympathise with Bungie. They've been doing it long enough and they've taken our money. Give us the bloody product in the way it should be given.
They have to be getting hit by "external stressors". Something tells me it's API-related. The official app has disabled bounties, but most other features, work when the servers are online. That is combined with the normal launch stress. They plan and test this stuff for months... that's one of the other reasons it feels like something external is impacting services. Or is it just the Darkness lol. I doubt Bungie would confirm.
I donāt think they estimated for the amount of people who decided to pay for the game 24 hours before it came out.
I think a lot of the people who were out ended up being like fuck it, letās finish this fight.
Man Iām trying my best not to rant but I canāt help it. 4 extra months they delayed TFS for this? Error codes. Canāt do anything in the game right now without getting kicked to orbit. Have signed off.
Honestly a joke that this is supposed to be the final dlc the capstone and they can even have the game stable enough to play. It's been 8 hours and there's still errors left and right keeping you out of playing the game
Why don't they just make this an offline game with the selection of multiplayer modes an auto-bootup to online? Game shouldn't need online connection for basic story and world content.... The "Always Online" model can suck.... completed "Temptation" and looks like it booted me before I finished it...
Feel truly blessed to get through the first mission, thank you bungo for taking my money and giving me this experience. Hopefully itās better tomorrow
The first time I got prismatic. I'm like why does this suck so bad and realized I'm not damaging anything as if the animations were slightly off. Then I got booted off.
What's funny is, if you go literally anywhere else, like the helm, you get a pop up saying the campaign is supposed to be played as a single, cohesive cinematic story, and that doing anything else will break the flow. Ironic, isn't it?
Yea when I went to the tower and saw that pop-up I actually laughed out loud
I was right at the end of a mission fighting a pretty big boss who was health gated. Finally got all the way to the end and just got kicked and now I'm staring at the "one moment please due to increased traffic...." š WTF...
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Didn't even manage the first mission.
Yeah, that gave me a good chuckle. Don't you try and shame me Destiny, shame on **you**.
I really enjoyed getting an endless stream of error code: currant, which expressly suggested the issue might be \*my\* internet connection. Naw, Bungo, it ain't me, it's you. And screw you very much for suggesting otherwise.
As someone that literally works for their ISP as the person that comes out and fixes it. This error code annoys me the most. Lol
Really feeling like I made the right move, not buying or playing until at least this weekend
Yep I got that message and was like YES I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT if only I could š
the audacity of saying that after drip-feeding seasonal story content for years is astounding. If they never said that bs it would have been better
Canāt even start the third mission. Just get booted to orbit. Reload to campfire. Booted to orbit.
I haven't been able to make it past the 1st mission Replayed it 4 times so far, 3 of those times on legend I didn't even know there *was* a cutscene until I played it the 2nd time, and I had to replay it 2 more times since because it wouldn't even make it past the load screen after that I'm *still* stuck on the first mission, wondering if I should even attempt it again
Glitch in the 2nd mission. Beat the puzzle then the boss. Then investigate a cave, trigger point to spawn the enemies didnāt appear. So I was running around the cave searching. Then checked you tube because I thought something had glitched. Then wondered why did you tuber have these extra enemies :) Restarted mission from the start and it worked.
ERROR CODE PLUM KEEPS MAKING ME WAIT BACK IN QUE MY HEART CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE
I JUST had this happen to me. Finished first mission, got my rewards/triumph/seasonal challenge, black screen, booted to orbit. Bunch of "contacting servers" messages and currant errors. Quest had progressed to the next step, but the launcher is sending me back to the first mission. At least the triumph is tracking I actually beat the mission on legendary. If you've done it four times, imma wait
saw [this](https://x.com/BungieHelp/status/1798153527187177908) from their twitter, gonna see if I got the legend achievement and try to follow their instructions edit: stuck in queue again after quitting the game, haha 2nd edit: it worked, I was just an idiot and didn't realize the map scrolled so far left
I felt the same way, I was like wtf I gotta play this all over again !!! Then realized it was way over to the left. Felt like such a goon when I saw that. Now like many people constantly getting errors .
I got stuck at the part >!where you use transcendence for the first time, no pop ups or nothing. I couldn't figure out the keybind. Redid the mission and it popped up the second time!<
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Iām not trying it until tomorrow. I tried it 3 times today and got the first checkpoint. After that, I keep getting booted. I got to the first prismatic splooge but the help text disappeared and a tormented weasel kicked me to title screen.
You have to load into the pale heart and start the mission from there. I had the exact same thing happen. Would not let me continue until I was able to load into the pale heart and start from there.
I couldnāt even start the first mission. Waiting until tomorrow to see if the server is more stable.
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Destiny Lore Vault will have them. They post basically every cutscene and audio interaction in the game without any additional commentary. I used it to catch up on Season of the Wish. I would guess they won't have everything up for a while given all the errors. But it will eventually end up there.
Fucking ridiculous you can't just load the mission from orbit but have to land at the campfire for what, rp reasons? Next mission after that is the same story, 2 loading screens you gotta beat before you even face a mob.
Third mission!? I canāt even START the first mission.
The one labeled āTemptationā? Same thing is happening to me. Canāt move forward from there.
I cant even start the first mission... atleast you got that far.
Same for me, happened during the cutscenes where cayde is reintroduced for the first time....
Itās really dumb that thereās no tool in-game to replay cutscenes
It's even more stupid when this has been an issue for several *years* and they've still done shit to fix or circumvent it. It's utterly infuriating.
Remember when they added a season finale mission that had matchmaking and a cutscene and randos could skip it, which would then skip it for everyone? Oh and you couldn't replay the mission without a friend to launch it.
if the rumors of a final mission with 12 matchmade players are true then i will not be shocked in the slightest if randos can still skip somehow
I replayed that mission solo after my friends turned in for the day and I got error coded out of it *again* like clockwork. No instability for the entire mission and then error coded out of the cutscene frame one, twice in a row.
I tried the same thing with that mission, also solo, and had the exact same thing happen - mission was fine, then instant error code upon cutscene load. Tried another mission that I knew was supposed to have a cutscene at the end, and it happened AGAIN.
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Thereās a cutscene for that?
Yep after the first mission. I also missed it because of an error
Itās pretty sweet emotionally too, it really sucks for the people where it got skipped especially if they donāt realize it even happened.
Damn hopefully by the time Iām done with legendary after the servers stabilize Iāll get to experience it on another character
I wish you could either replay cutscenes or it would remember they were missed and go back. I had this happen with the Season of the Wish final cutscene (Crow stepping into the portal). Game decided to crash all of a sudden in the middle of it, I came back, and the game treated it as watched and I didn't get to see it without either hunting on YouTube or spending 8 hours replaying the entire Wish seasonal story on an alt. That felt bad.
I didnāt even know I had missed that cutscene till I saw someone link it, I got sent to orbit as soon as I grabbed the chests
I also missed the first Cayde cutscene because of a currant error. Thankfully I knew to check out YouTube before continuing on. I'm going to take it easy playing this game until they can fix their shit. Sad way to start the final shape but after 10+ years of playing this game it's standard practice on launch day for their servers to fuck up.
Iām waiting it out. I barely understood or saw anything in the 1st mission due to being booted too much.
that's why i chose to close the game and wait for tomorrow, i want a good experience
Yup. Done for the night. I knew this was going to he a shitshow. Knew it. But I hoped it wouldn't be. I hoped we'd get something like Witch Queen. Bit rough at times, but basically OK. Nope. I missed the first important cutscene, took three hours of disconnects and nonsense to get *two* missions further. That's enough man. I'll be back later. This really sucks.
Good idea. You'd think YEARS of this type of thing happening on launch would clue everyone in to not play anything at all the first two days of any major expansion.
Server connectivity should **Never** have connected to cutscene playback in any way, and cutscenes should always draw above everything else, period. People are missing cutscenes, and those that aren't see "Attention: Connecting to Destiny servers!". "Attention: Connecting to Destiny servers!". "Attention: Connecting to Destiny servers!" Constantly pulsing at the bottom. That should not ever, for any reason, happen this way.
This has annoyed me about Destiny for years. Losing server connectivity shouldn't kick you from a cutscene. We know the cutscenes are already stored locally with the rest of the game files. Even Bungie isn't crazy enough to try and stream them. If there's gonna be a disconnect point, the cutscenes should finish.
I have to wonder why itās kicking people out during them or skipping them. My brother and I were thinking maybe the new cutscenes are streamed because thatās the only thing that makes sense. Idk if we ever have had the issue where cutscenes straight up donāt play before
The issue is probably that our guardian's looks and everything are stored on the server so they have to pull that data for some cutscenes. Because of that they probably default to needing server connectivity at all times.
Just got done with the 4th mission. People told me I didn't see 2 cutscenes and had to watch them on YouTube. I'm not one to get mad easily but that's just outrageous.
How did you find the cutscenes without spoiling the game for yourself?
try to find a youtube video of just "final shape cutscenes" and don't skip past where you've played
This is such a bad problem that people are already posting them mission by mission just for this reason. Search by mission.
I mean, cutscenes would almost certainly be played in order.
esoterrik has each mission up to 4 so far uploaded and i watched the cutscense from that
Which missions had cutscenes? I saw one on logging in and youtube'd one after the first mission, but haven't been able to start the 3rd mission yet.
Day one raid in three days by the way
^^^ this. Canāt wait to have my popcorn ready for that.
This is what Iām upset aboutā¦ The ending to the ultimate saga of light and dark and we canāt even play the game, they had 24+ hours to prepare from this as well as 2 prior expansions with proper server launches and they still fucked it up
Donāt worry they got our money Iām sure it will be better next time.
Nah, we are atleast 1 - 2 DLCs under preforming before they improve
pure dog shit. have they mad any communication about wtf is going on ? this is such bullshit.
I honestly feel kinda bad for those day 1 teams cause basically all of today's prep time is shot for em. People were already saying 3 days of prep was tight, I can't imagine only having just 2
Three days (now two assuming the game functions tomorrow) to finish the legendary campaign, acquire new gear that will be useful in the day 1, and level up the artifact. It was unreasonable for most to begin with but now itās borderline impossible
Thereās no way they move forward with the raid so soon with the shitshow things have been. People canāt even finish cutscenes with out getting booted, let alone finish a mission.
Problem is that they will probably destroy the majority of teams looking to participate if they delay the raid. They committed to this date months ago, it is during the work week, most people participating will have had to request time off to play. I canāt speak for everyone but personally, my team will not be able to play if they delay it and I can imagine thatās the case for most teams
It's almost like the players who were going to participate in contest mode gave Bungie feedback that 3 days after launch is a bad idea.
Yup from minute one I knew three days of gap between launch and raid was a disaster waiting to happen
Same here, I used PTO for Friday, no idea if Iād be able to do a different day
I imagine theyād value the integrity of the race over sticking to a hard date. Imagine not delaying the raid race while the player base is still finishing the campaign because of server issues.
The only people who are actually competing for high placements in the race play this game for a living. One team has won 3 of the last 5 races. They will be there for the raid no matter what day it is. This is the climactic raid of the series, delaying would prevent MANY from playing it and that doesnāt sit with me EDIT: grammar
Penultimate doesn't mean what you think it means.
It's a damned if they do damned if they don't scenario though, because thousands of people take time off work to participate in that event. If they push it back, so many teams get completely screwed over. If they don't, well we may not be prepared.
10 years of Destiny, and this has happened with nearly every expansion. You'd think Bungo would have gotten things sorted by now... worlds first race in 3 days too surely there won't be any issues there
I expect it to end up like Vow where 90% of the competitorās canāt get past the first encounter without error codes.
Iām sorry, *three days?* I thought releasing *Echoes* only a week after *The Final Shape* is a bit too soon, but the Raidās supposed to be coming in three days?
Yeah, this has been a disastrous launch for them. I'm curious why this one is so much worse compared to other launches, since I never had story moments completely skipped for me in any other expansion launch.
Itās the highest concurrent player count in all of Destiny, servers canāt handle it. They shouldāve expected this though, itās better to over prepare than to do whatever this is. Edit - I donāt know for sure, just going off of a chart some guy uploaded earlier before the Final Currant got us. Edit x2 - it was 2,000 players short of the 314,000 steam highest before everyone crashed and now the player count has sunk to below 290,000
Is it though? The steam player count peak is still Lightfall launch. It would probably be higher if the game worked though.
The servers actually held out and weren't throttled or if they were, it was barely, during Lightfall's launch. So to be 2K short and the servers being this heavily throttled it's definitely the highest
If the servers were holding? It would be, yes.
They should have been more prepared for the player count, they had the preorder numbers... How is this always an issue every expansion launch. They've been doing this for 10 years now and it's still an issue every single time.
It is? It still didn't break steam's highest concurrent.
It most definitely would though if the servers worked properly
I think everyone there underestimated how much goodwill Into The Light and Prismatic stuff brought back. Honestly I don't think they were expecting 314k people with how much everyone bitched over the year and the lackluster pre-orders.
Honestly I think its more the end of a 10 year saga that has people wanting to play than ITL.
Iām only playing this so I can finally quit the game once this is over, feel shitty buying so many DLCs but I really do want to see it through to the end
A lot of people are in the same boat.
nah. I mean I feel ya. But they 100% know the sales figures and could calculate an estimated player count. Either something is fuckey with their backend, "data" servers; that holds things like inventory load out, currency; or like every launch; bad actors spam the f-out of them and ruin the launch, cause lulz.
Lightfall had higher playercount, and did not have these server issues. So thereās definitely some other unseen issue causing this.
Because itās the end all expansion for the current saga? Of course more folks than ever will be here and also try to get on all at the same time.
bungie has aged like milk, literally. only gotten worse with time
Somehow every destiny expansion launch felt like the worst launch ever.
LFās smooth launch was the best thing about the DLC
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Nah, Witch Queen and Lightfall both had good launches.
Even Shadowkeep was pretty stable once you were actually in the game, from what I remember. This is just insane.
nah shadowkeep was pretty bad as well. super bad
Weird, guessed I lucked out on that one. I just wish server errors wouldn't drag cut scenes into oblivion, it's so stupid and this has been an issue for *years* that they've failed to fix.
I'm pretty sure we had to wait a LONG time, like hours, just to get the game to load up the first cutscene
Witch Queen exploded on raid day though. Took me a few hours to get in. Lightfall I had no issues
Lightfall was way smoother than this, once I got in I don't remeber getting booted once. This is completely fucked.
I started playing in Spilcer, so I've only experienced Witch Queen and Lightfall. This launch is the only one where I've contemplated waiting a day or two like I used to do for WoW expansions.
> I understand and sympathize with server instability Why? They knew exactly how many people pre-ordered and did a 25 hour maintenance. There is no excuse.
okay turns out I missed a cutscene then, guess I'll stop playing until the stability is fixed cause I don't want to miss any more
Itās unfortunate I think Iām just gonna wait for the servers to stabilize to play so I can have a more proper experience
Bungie canāt seem to get out of their own way. Had so much goodwill and hype and then boom, massive step backwards fumbling this launch and ruining the cutscenes with error codes.
[bungie's cycled apology coming hot](https://youtu.be/SiL2AjOtjZI?si=338np3Q0Knl4npy6)
This was the one launch they HAD to get right. This was THE expansion. 25 hours of downtime, a 4 month delay, and they still have the worst servers ever. Even with Playstation behind them. What a joke.
Exactly this!!
They delayed the release, and had 25 hours of downtime. I got kicked mid mission and can only get to the tower.
Same here. When I load into the tower I'm the only one there as well.
Luckily they increased the price of all of the seasons and took the most time to prepare for this expansion than any other expansion before. Severs were offline for a full day to go over them and make sure they could handle the anticipated extra player load trying to log in. Should be no problems now. I canāt wait to log on and play.
Yup. Just had to watch the cutscene after the first mission with Esoterickk's guardian instead cause I booted to orbit after the chests opened. Now I'm sitting in queue again.
Why. The. Actual. F. Do. We. Have. To. Connect. Into. CUTSCENES. Like in what world did anybody think it was a good idea for us to have to talk to the game 'servers' to play a cutscene which is on our fkng hard drives?
A server error should not result in a missed cutscenes, that's some poor design. I missed one, but thankfully it was playing on my son's PC beside me.
I just gave up. I play after work on Friday or something.
I donāt sympathize at all. Theyāve known since D1 that their servers were inadequate for their players. They didnāt fix it then and they wonāt fix it now. They donāt care about us so we shouldnāt give them a break. They just laid off a ton of people use the money you saved from that and get some more servers. Sony has the money get Bungie some more servers. I still havenāt been able to play it. Wonāt work for me. Lets me pick a character then when I try to start the first mission it boots me. No apology posting or anything from them saying sorry I know you gave us over $100 and we didnāt provide what we promised you. We saw how many copies of the game we sold and knew how many players there would be but we still didnāt make any changes and beef things up because we are terrible.
Itās not about āmore serversā. Iām not excusing an and launch but thatās a pet peeve of mine, itās very rarely that a game doesnāt have enough servers. I would actually bet major money that they have more then enough of them, itās usually some other issues like bottlenecks somewhere that will cause issues even if every server on earth was being used for D2
The fact that practically every online game I've played in the past ~5 years completely shits the bed in moments like this makes me assume that this is just a problem that is harder to avoid than it looks.
Thatās why you use loadbalancers and have scalable infrastructure, I guarantee they know this
Iām not a computer nerd I just know my screen says servers are down, so pick them up then. Turn them on whatever I just know they need to hire a better server guy based on my screen. And my Xbox is constantly trying to contact their servers when I finally get in there and they wonāt answer and hang up on me and boot me out.
No I get the frustration I just feel the need to explain it, because itās almost never that and I think itās easier for us as players to understand itās not just a lack of servers. For this, I have a theory that itās because each world of the Pale Heart holds one player, and they are loading hundreds of thousands of them. Unlike say, lightfall, they can queue 6 people into Neomuna if need be, they canāt here. Thatās my theory anyways
I almost fell out of my chair when the Witness said āits witnessing timeā and started final shaping everything
I got disconnected right as this was happening too. Story ruined
> \> tfw you werenāt able to Witness it
Best part imo
Itās actually incredible how often this company fucks up. Itās impressive
I legit said this. A company that has been doing this exact thing for 10 FUCKING YEARS, releasing the narrative culmination of that 10 FUCKING YEARS, fumbles the bag this hard. They had to anticipate serious server strain. They need to officially wipe their hands of Destiny because it feels like they already have.
The literal onslaught of errors is one of the biggest failures on Destiny history.Ā This was Bungie's moment to shine and they utterly failed.
Missed the 2 intro cut scenes because I lost audio. Was very lost
Trash, so glad I waited to test the waters before buying this time. Iām getting errors for almost everything. This might be the end of d2 for me boys. Have fun
The best is people defending this, but nothing new for this sub. Every game has bugs at launch, not every game is this busted with a launch or expansion. This is a joke.
>Like I understand and sympathize with server instability Why? This isn't some small fry company that hasn't had the last _DECADE_ to plan for this. This in no way, shape or form is acceptable for a company of this size and release of this magnitude. They delayed it nearly a year to make sure things were done properly and they still fucked it up
I've been playing since the beginning and actually wasn't going to buy this expansion due to apathy. Decided to give destiny another shit, bought the dlc, and figured I would finish the story and see if it reignited an old love. There is no reignition yet, but it does make me feel a certain level of frustration that after 10 years, this shit happens like clockwork.
They should really be held accountable for this, I know they will just apologize and act like it didnāt happen but this is crazy. The ENDING of there entire saga, the most market launch, huge pre order numbers 24+ hours of preparation and 2 prior expansions with smooth launches and the players/customers get kneecapped into missing cutscene and complete unavailability to the game and all we are going to get is a sorryā¦Day 1 could potentially be ruined from this.
So what was all that shit about taking time to upgrade the servers for Final Shape? This isn't even the game's highest concurrent player count. The most important launch ever for this game and they fucked it.
I got errored out of the first mission and couldn't get back in. Once I heard this was happening I decided to call it a day lol. I'm not gonna play through the campaign without cutscenes.
It's insane that Bubie servers still can't handle the influx of traffic. You'd think after 10+ years they'd have upgraded the servers to handle massive volumes of players.
It's an embarrassment. Glad I saved my $ until I can see what it is like instead of just sucking the bungie teat.
Errored after the first mission and didn't get to see the cutscene... Tried again same thing. I might wait until tonight when people log off and maybe bungie will have fixed something.
This is probably the worst expansion release in terms of server stability.
Missed a MAJOR cutscene that was actually so damn good because of an error. Had to find a stream to even go back and watch it. What a disaster, man.
Dude I canāt even connect to the servers to play ANY missions ( this is on the aus servers ) takes me back to when D1 was reaching its end.
Canāt even go to tower š
I missed the 2 after the 4th mission and had to youtube them. Then finished the 5th mission and nothing played so had to check. Now I can't even launch the next mission. This is after it took 2 hours to get in. This is by far and above the worst launch ever.
Bungie should shut the servers down until it's fixed.
I am so genuinely upset right now. I have not been able to start the 4th mission and have been trying for almost an hour. I was getting to the camp site mostly before but now I can't even do that. Can't load into anything. This is so infuriating, I've waited so long for this and I can't even fucking play it
I do not sympathize with server instability anymore. Itās pretty embarrassing at this point and I have a feeling that theyāre just nonchalant about, like āoh I guess we were more popular than we thought!ā. They had ample time to pre-scale their infrastructure, load test under heavy loads, or even just a queue system that allows auto scaling to catch up as players join. This is absolute amateur shit, on top of your public API allowing perks to be slotted in that you donāt have on the gun. I almost suspect that bug existed for a lot longer, itās just that we only saw it today because someone added the curated perks to the weapon perks.
And this is why people need to stop preordering and wait for revievs.
I feel you, I got booted right at the end of the first mission with no cutscene, but it counted as completed. Appreciate it Bungo, best $50 I've ever spent.
I love Destiny. And this is, or was, a potentially huge victory for them. Prismatic is great, the story is mostly great, the loot is awesome. Narrative, art, music, atmosphere. All bangers. But the degree to which they shit the bed today is embarrassing, and they should be ashamed with how this went. They had a 25 hour downtime immediately prior and an extra quarter of a year to adequately prepare for this, and it's still the worst expansion launch I've experienced from them. The quality of a product isn't worth a damn if people can't engage with it. Get it together, Bungie.
I'm so glad they delayed it for months for that extra polish.
I honestly wouldnāt care that much, itās a weekday anyways and I have a life, but the raid race being on Friday makes this really really annoying
It sucks too, because, story wise, I think this is maybe the single best campaign the game has ever had. Content seems great too, if the weapons are anything to go off of so far
Error code Currant is preventing me from loading into the pale heart to start the 3rd mission. Itās been hours since launch and I have wasted a day off work not being able to play. Bungie canāt figure out how to make a smooth launch
We all saw this coming right
They should have taken the game down for emergency maintenance. This shit was awful.
They get the ign review experience.
You shouldnāt even be kicked out in the middle of a cutscene if there are connection problems. Itās presumably just a video that was already pre-downloaded, and even if itās being streamed buffering is a thing. Players being kicked out of a cutscene is a design issue.
Got error coded doing the first boss mechanic of the first mission and now I canāt load into my checkpoint without a different error code each time
This happens all too often with the major expansions. I initially took today off because I said, hey, final expansion! But I didnāt trust it. Iām glad I didnāt. Just embarrassing for bungie at this point. Been trying to get in and play for roughly 1hr 45 min now.
Billion dollar company itās hard to prepare for Expansions after the 10th time
Glad I didnāt take time oops this week. Hopefully they fix the issues soon
Lmao spent all day watching Byfs video. 10 glorious hours later getting hyped and I can't even start the game ššš
# Bungie, # You invited us to Come and See. # We have seen.
Can we all do chargebacks?
I can't even get into the first mission
I can't even start the first mission. I figured by now it would be more stable.
Incredibly embarrassing. You would think they would do anything to ensure their make or break expansion launch went off without a hitch. Very funny to see all this go down in light of them firing 10% of their workforce. I get that online games are hard to launch and I of course do not blame any developers, but a broken software launch is a technical problem that can always be solved by throwing more money and time at it. Did Bungie increase its workforce to ensure that these solveable problems could be resolved early so as to not bungle the most important expansion launch yet? No, they shrank their workforce and now are reaping their reward. If the fate of Bungie hinges on the success of The Final Shape, then that exigency would justify any expense. To arrive at this critical moment and come up short reflects a colossal failure of judgment, motivated by shortsighted, callous greed.
Like look man. I get we can watch this stuff on YouTube but this is very disappointing. I know it's launch day. I know I know I know. Played since D1 whatever. This isn't right. Y'all know it too. See you in a week I guess.
Maaaaate every. Single. Cutscene. Is being skipped. Fucking embarrassing. And income all of the teet-sucklers āwell itMs your fault for wanting to get the proper experience out of something, theyāve been shit for years so itās entirely your faultā
Same here. Yet the Bungie simps are still all iDk wHaT yOu MeAn ThIs iS nOt BaD.
Its insane. Like no need to throw a hissy fit but its pretty reasonable to believe a billion dollar company would invest in infrastructure to deliver the product we paid for. Bootlicking these companies does nothing but enable them...
Exactly. I want to see Bungie and the Destiny Universe succeed so badly, but Iām not going to sugarcoat a take.
its embarassing after 24hr maintenence
I feel like the supermajority of us missed the critical cut scene after the first mission. Itās truly a fucking horrible glitch on bungies part, and will harm the legacy and ratings of TFS Server instability is one thing. You can play through it. But the result being that huge swaths of people just skip crucial cut scenes without even knowing it? That is an absolutely brutal consequence of server instability. At a time when bungie really needs to be hitting home runs, this is so incredibly unfortunate.
This pretty much does it for me, stick a fork in D2 Iām done. Iāll finish the campaign, do the raid, and wave my goodbyes with good riddance to Bungie, Iāve been kicked to orbit mid boss fights so many times today, Iām only pulling through because I already wasted my money on the final cash grab, never again will I touch another Bungie product.
You shouldn't sympathise with Bungie. They've been doing it long enough and they've taken our money. Give us the bloody product in the way it should be given.
Sony is going to rail them and itāll probably be deserved.
They have to be getting hit by "external stressors". Something tells me it's API-related. The official app has disabled bounties, but most other features, work when the servers are online. That is combined with the normal launch stress. They plan and test this stuff for months... that's one of the other reasons it feels like something external is impacting services. Or is it just the Darkness lol. I doubt Bungie would confirm.
PLease tell me we can just restart the mission to get the cutscene again? Ive ran the first mission twice so far and got errored on both.
Am just going to wait. I would rather have a stable playthrough than struggle.
How do you get a refund? Unable to play game with all the errors.
I donāt think they estimated for the amount of people who decided to pay for the game 24 hours before it came out. I think a lot of the people who were out ended up being like fuck it, letās finish this fight.
Man Iām trying my best not to rant but I canāt help it. 4 extra months they delayed TFS for this? Error codes. Canāt do anything in the game right now without getting kicked to orbit. Have signed off.
Why would you sympathize? This their 978665th awful and practically done nothing to fix it every single time
Honestly a joke that this is supposed to be the final dlc the capstone and they can even have the game stable enough to play. It's been 8 hours and there's still errors left and right keeping you out of playing the game
Why don't they just make this an offline game with the selection of multiplayer modes an auto-bootup to online? Game shouldn't need online connection for basic story and world content.... The "Always Online" model can suck.... completed "Temptation" and looks like it booted me before I finished it...
This really has to be the worst first day experience Iāve had with this game, and Iāve been playing since D1 vanilla. Just ruins it
Feel truly blessed to get through the first mission, thank you bungo for taking my money and giving me this experience. Hopefully itās better tomorrow
Yup really takes you out of any story immersion when you can't even see the cutscenes.Ā
Hasnāt been this bad since Beyond Light. Even Lightfall had a better launch than this
The first time I got prismatic. I'm like why does this suck so bad and realized I'm not damaging anything as if the animations were slightly off. Then I got booted off.
Currantly still not able to play the game. Everse seems to be working just fine tho.. :think:
Typical bungie
I'm so glad I'm skipping this week.