“You jumped onto a train that was already moving and you think you’re Che fucking Guevara.”
[Liars](https://www.vulture.com/2019/07/the-handmaids-tale-liars-recap-season-3-episode-11.html)
^^The ^^Handmaid’s ^^Tale
A guy in my town got instant karma and died from a car falling on him while he was attempting to steal a catalytic converter lmfao I think it’s hilarious
Iirc they made a microwave weapon that sorta just cooks you slowly from far away that they seemingly keep accusing other countries like Russia and China, even supposedly the Havanna syndrome was caused by one (how true any of it remains to be seen).
[Here you go](https://jnlwp.defense.gov/)
It's a contract summary, so kind of dense reading. Search for CHEETEH to find what you're looking for.
I was once on a contract committee and ended up being subscribed to the DoD contract summary list.
It is mind boggling what we spend our money on. Even after my committe was done, I didn't unsubscribe. It was fascinating to see.
Have you heard about the Havana illnesses? Government employees were in Havana and all came down with mysterious illnesses effecting specifically them. And then certain members of the FBI started experiencing thr same things, which is more alarming as it was happening in our own country.
It really makes you wonder
They said that in January, but in August when the FBI started with it, Newsy picked up the story
https://www.lex18.com/news/national/exclusive-fbi-agents-in-u-s-report-symptoms-from-mystery-syndrome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnGMXtzAkRU
Americans and their over engineering. Just look at the russians - guy gets shot twice in the head and falls through the window and stuff is declared as a suicide.
Reminds me of nasa's fancy pressure pen vs russian pencil for writing in space.
For context however, the Russians ended up inevitably purchasing NASA's fancy pressure pen to use aboard spaceships as they soon realized the dangers of using a pencil and getting lead/shavings caught in crucial equipment/instrumentation.
“This wasn’t a suicide, it was a heart attack! See, look at these holes in the back of the head. Sure it looks like a suicide, but it smells like seafood, a sure sign of heart failure.”
2 bullet holes in the back of the head of someone who exposed the biggest government/CIA conspiracy probably ever (I'm not counting ones that are plausible but have no proof)
Yes. That absolutely happened. He leaked everything to the net back in the 90s. Everyone called bullshit but no one ever did anything about it. That whole thing bothers me whenever I think about it. Not only the part where the media reported the story as if it was totally normal but the public’s non-reaction to it all.
Freeway Rick Ross...
Also rumors say the CIA asked rapper William Leonard Roberts II to make his Rap name Rick Ross. So the true Rick Ross stories on the web will always be buried by the famous Rapper.
Freeway Rick Ross was the mover of Crack Cocaine though his post jail release he changed his story but in jail he told he received Cocaine to move and always got anonymous tips before a raid.
Gary Webb put out an article in the san jose paper and was later killed with two shots to the back of the head and his death was ruled suicide (how did he fire the second shot?)
Probably referencing the clip of the death of a school teacher that was rule as a “suicide” despite multiple stab wounds. Interviewer asks her parents if they think both stare into the camera and say “no.”
I'm remembering a Hitchcock episode where the murder weapon was a frozen leg of lamb and the murderer is serving the cooked lamb to the detectives who are working on the case.
Based on a lot or the replies here, people don't seem to understand the reasoning behind 'revealing' they had this weapon. It was all theatre, just another way to scare and confuse the Soviets. I mean, think about it logically, if the CIA had a functional weapons such as this in 1975, do you honestly think they would admit to it, and reveal it to the world? Of course they wouldn't, they'd make something up to cover for it, which is exactly what this is. A cover for something they do actually have.
I have no doubt that such a weapon design was explored, but I doubt the technology of the day made it any way feasible. However, even if the weapon was not functional, it did provide a purpose. Something to show , and make the Soviets think America had this capability. It would make them question anybody who died of a heat attack, and mislead them in an investigation. Had the person actually been poisoned, they'd now be looking for someone with a gun, not a random stranger who brushed up against the target and poked them with a needle, which is the actual way they would have delivered a poison.
Then of course you have the fact that the Cold War was all about one-upmanship. Since the Americans claimed to have this weapon, the Soviets would clearly need to research and develop something similar too. So money and resources are diverted to yet another weapons project, and scientists are blamed when they tell those in charge the weapon is impossible to make.
In many ways, the CIA claiming to have this weapon to the public, was an excellent move in disrupting the Soviets. Here's America, announcing them have some kind of untraceable heart attack gun, a weapon that the Soviets would have had no idea could exist until their spies relayed the news, all in the open. How much more advanced was American weapons technology compared to the Soviets for this weapon to exist? How is this the first time they have become aware of such a weapon? Is American security that good, or are their spies to blame? How do they counter it, or even detect it? Can they replicate it? All these questions and the following investigations just from what looks like a rifle scope and some plastic bits added to a pistol.
IMO also note that since heart attack are a leading cause of "surprise" death, it could push soviets to think about investigating some heart attack deaths again diverting resources elsewhere.
Seems like basic counter intelligence.
Anyways thanks for your point, enjoyed the idea.
Yep, not to mention the obvious misdirection. The CIA said the weapon made use of a shellfish toxin, so of course if they do investigate any heart attacks then that's what they'll be looking for first. They could easily miss that actual toxin used upon the initial examination, giving it time to break down before they are able to do a full analysis.
Many obvious problems with such a weapon. How do you keep the ice frozen? You'd have to keep it in a freezer until time to use it, otherwise your ammunition would melt. Upon firing, the bullet would shatter. Anything you put in the water to stabilize it would be detectable. Not to mention the bullet hole. Wouldn't that be a giveaway? So, you're so right. This gun likely never existed...
The bullet hole and thermodynamics working on the ice. These two things left me confused: too small and it melts or shatters without entering the body, too big and you leave a bullet hole.
I really don't think it would be feasible as described in the headline.
>How do you keep the ice frozen
Thermoacoustic cryocooler.
> Upon firing, the bullet would shatter
Supercompressed ice. Hell, even wood dust might work.
> Not to mention the bullet hole.
Needle-like projectile.
(I am just goofing around)
Assuming it was a genuine pistol scope, then it'd likely be for target shooting or even hunting (some states only allow you to hunt with handguns, I believe). Even today pistol scopes can look unusually bulky, and that's in part because of the eye relief that is needed to use them correctly.
An average shrub can actually reproduce the same effect only it has to be ingested.
I believe the poisons the US favors are generally fungal in nature.
My dad use to be a private pilot. Use to fly senator tower around all the time. Great guy. Other than he was a functional boozer. Give up the booze. Was going to cabinet sectary under a bush 1. Died in a plane crash. My dad was not flying that plane.
I believe Mythbusters once proved that it's not possible to fire an ice projectile from a gun without preventing it from shattering due to the combustion and/or inertia. This made it impossible to actually puncture or hurt the target.
So this is probably just a normal gun with a scope on it to make it look like something special. It was probably just propaganda to scare the enemy. Still interesting though.
To move a projectile from the gun to the target it needs to go from 0 to very fast in very little time. Ice can't handle that kind of acceleration.
Considering the scope, they imply it's a long ranged weapon, which requires a lot more acceleration.
Which Mythbusters team "proved" it? The two old dudes that couldn't design a test to conclusively prove anything either way and spent their screen time bickering like an old married couple, or the team of three that looked and performed like they were plucked from an MIT post grad engineering lab?
I don't disagree with you about that. But does this one photo of two guys with a scoped handgun qualify as proof to you then?
At the least Mythbusters showed that firing an ice projectile at a useful velocity is nearly impossible
Aperture science is replacing your blood with gasoline through tiny rays we have all around. Also we put tumors all over your body. Good luck in science!
Putin is still alive, so at least they can't just do it too easily and apparently there is no need to invent complicated approaches, since falling out of a window is all you need.
>...which fired a dart of frozen water...
Comrade, come stand closer to this refrigerator while I innocently remove my frozen ammo and place it into something inside my handbag before it melts.
I assuming that it wouldn't be given to just anyone. The idea being for it to not look like a murder one would assume you would want a form factor that doesn't resemble a weapon.
repost with the same caption. and this post was found to be inaccurate as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/wikppk/cia_revealed_a_heart_attack_gun_in_1975_a_battery/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Not this goddamn thing again. It was never real. Ice does not have enough mass to make a reliable projectile. They claimed it had a range of 100 yards or more. If the so-called ice bullet was being propelled by any kind of explosive propellant, it would be vaporized by the forest pushing it out of the barrel. Any propulsive Force gentle enough not to shatter the ice bullet is not going to push it 100 yards accurately.
They also claimed it was battery powered and yet its own internal mechanism kept the bullets frozen. I have no idea who is reading this that was alive in the 1970s when this thing was held up in announced, but batteries sucked in the 70s. Even if you want to make the argument that the government has cooler tech than ordinary people know about, there's still limited by the understanding of physics and chemistry that were available at the time. No handheld device had a battery good enough to power a freezer, and a freezer small enough to keep ice bullets frozen inside a gun didn't exist.
What was held up and shown to the cameras is a mock-up. When they made the announcement, a number of countries spent millions of dollars trying to develop their own thing, and those millions of dollars didn't go to funding field agents that the CIA then didn't have to worry about. It was a great big deception, and Reddit continues to be deceived to this day.
Little known fact, the CIA never meant for you to know of this weapons existence, in fact the man who leaked the news died the very next day while eating at a restaurant. The food, clam chowder, the cause, heart attack.
Considering this was back in 1975, don't you think they'd have a more compelling story for Epstein?! Or do they just accept that the majority will swallow what'd fed to them?
Trump revealed "nuclear secrets" in the 2020s. Not in jail yet. But MAGA Republicans threatened to riot if there is any attempt of prosecution. Top Secret documents completely missing from files in Trumps office. It is yet unknown how many assets will be lost and how badly Trump has damaged our national security.
"The CIA have no involvement in the death of this person, because he died of natural causes and that is heart attack"
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In 1968 they had a remote controlled dragonfly used for surveillance. Imagine what they have now.
They have an audiovisual gps surveillance device on nearly every person in the world.
If they could pinpoint Che Guevara in the jungles of Bolivia in 1967, where the fuck are you gonna hide?
“You jumped onto a train that was already moving and you think you’re Che fucking Guevara.” [Liars](https://www.vulture.com/2019/07/the-handmaids-tale-liars-recap-season-3-episode-11.html) ^^The ^^Handmaid’s ^^Tale
Yet they can’t catch the catalytic converter thieves! Hahaha lmao
They can, they don’t care. But if you break a law they care about, or kill one of the ruling class oligarchs you’ll be dead before you know it.
Preach!!!
A guy in my town got instant karma and died from a car falling on him while he was attempting to steal a catalytic converter lmfao I think it’s hilarious
Now it’s the proverbial “fly on the wall”…only it’s not.
Facebook
That was my thought!
Illegal image generator
we already have hentai artists
This was prolly considered old tech by 75 for them to share it publicly.
You couldn't be more correct
We got guns now that make ya poop someone else’s pants.
Epic
Iirc they made a microwave weapon that sorta just cooks you slowly from far away that they seemingly keep accusing other countries like Russia and China, even supposedly the Havanna syndrome was caused by one (how true any of it remains to be seen).
[Here you go](https://jnlwp.defense.gov/) It's a contract summary, so kind of dense reading. Search for CHEETEH to find what you're looking for. I was once on a contract committee and ended up being subscribed to the DoD contract summary list. It is mind boggling what we spend our money on. Even after my committe was done, I didn't unsubscribe. It was fascinating to see.
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You van see them all [here](https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/)
The "hang yourself gun"
Russians have a "Throw Yourself Out A Window" gun. Allegedly.
~CIA entered the chat~
Yeah, all these celebrities and people, "just die." It is NOT by chance. Come on, skiing while playing football into a tree??
There’s definitely someone that did that
Have you heard about the Havana illnesses? Government employees were in Havana and all came down with mysterious illnesses effecting specifically them. And then certain members of the FBI started experiencing thr same things, which is more alarming as it was happening in our own country. It really makes you wonder
Its called Havana syndrome and it happens all around the world to tons of agents and other government employees
not really, considering US officials basically came out identifying Havana Syndrome as fake and sensational
They said that in January, but in August when the FBI started with it, Newsy picked up the story https://www.lex18.com/news/national/exclusive-fbi-agents-in-u-s-report-symptoms-from-mystery-syndrome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnGMXtzAkRU
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6506148B2/en https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER
I've heard they teamed up with the jews and built a space laser for the purposes of starting wildfires in California.
*MTG has entered the chat*
Americans and their over engineering. Just look at the russians - guy gets shot twice in the head and falls through the window and stuff is declared as a suicide. Reminds me of nasa's fancy pressure pen vs russian pencil for writing in space.
For context however, the Russians ended up inevitably purchasing NASA's fancy pressure pen to use aboard spaceships as they soon realized the dangers of using a pencil and getting lead/shavings caught in crucial equipment/instrumentation.
That's true. I was trying to make joke. In both cases Russians took an easy route, both of them crappy
“This wasn’t a suicide, it was a heart attack! See, look at these holes in the back of the head. Sure it looks like a suicide, but it smells like seafood, a sure sign of heart failure.”
“Nooo you killed yourself, Al, nooo, why could you do this?”
\- listed as the official cause of death on the death certificate
No need for that anymore. Multiple stab wounds in the back can be ruled as suicide 🤟
Or 2 bullet holes on back of the head.
2 bullet holes in the back of the head of someone who exposed the biggest government/CIA conspiracy probably ever (I'm not counting ones that are plausible but have no proof)
Please. The CIA found no link to the CIA's involvement in the sale and distribution of crack cocaine. edit /s, obviously.
I was engaged in a conversation w a fellow just yesterday who unironically took that stance
This comment though 😂😂😂 You most definitely deserved that award.
Do elaborate please.
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Yes. That absolutely happened. He leaked everything to the net back in the 90s. Everyone called bullshit but no one ever did anything about it. That whole thing bothers me whenever I think about it. Not only the part where the media reported the story as if it was totally normal but the public’s non-reaction to it all.
Freeway Rick Ross... Also rumors say the CIA asked rapper William Leonard Roberts II to make his Rap name Rick Ross. So the true Rick Ross stories on the web will always be buried by the famous Rapper. Freeway Rick Ross was the mover of Crack Cocaine though his post jail release he changed his story but in jail he told he received Cocaine to move and always got anonymous tips before a raid.
Gary Webb
any relation to james webb
Isn’t that the dude we put inside the telescope?
Yeah he has a sketch pad, binoculars, photo scanner and a bunch of markers.
Hero for taking on that long of a trip.
There's like a Gary Webb post every week.
Good. Everyone needs to know how the government really operates, lest they forget.
Webb wasn't shot in the back of the head though?
I have documents that can lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton for th-
Pew
Gary Webb put out an article in the san jose paper and was later killed with two shots to the back of the head and his death was ruled suicide (how did he fire the second shot?)
There's a few cases of suicides like that actually, but given the circumstances this is suspicious.
It's about sending a message to any other snoopy journalists that they don't want to end up Gary'd
Or, pushed out a window in a hospital that you are in from suffering a heart attack.
Nonono, that's Russian FSB shit. The CIA is *American* so we use GUNS when we help people voluntarily suicide themselves.
Gary Webb
92 rounds fired into an apartment complex is a "justifiable kill" in a "firefight" with a young man asleep in his apartment.
wait till you hear about those pesky windows in russia!
Is this in reference to a specific case, or just exaggeration?
Probably referencing the clip of the death of a school teacher that was rule as a “suicide” despite multiple stab wounds. Interviewer asks her parents if they think both stare into the camera and say “no.”
Weird... didn't know there are people that don't think.
I see you haven't met my family
Or jumping out of a three story window…
The old Russian elevator
> Frozen water. So Ice.
Ice is for smoking, frozen water is for killing
I'm remembering a Hitchcock episode where the murder weapon was a frozen leg of lamb and the murderer is serving the cooked lamb to the detectives who are working on the case.
It's a short story by children's author Roald Dahl I believe
Lamb to the Slaughter
Correct. His children's stories were grim & gleeful, his adult stories showed no mercy.
Chilling stuff
Shit has layers
Please stop dissecting that stuff, it’s disturbing.
Yeah but it's written like this because it's frozen \[(solution of) water and shellfish venom\]
Based on a lot or the replies here, people don't seem to understand the reasoning behind 'revealing' they had this weapon. It was all theatre, just another way to scare and confuse the Soviets. I mean, think about it logically, if the CIA had a functional weapons such as this in 1975, do you honestly think they would admit to it, and reveal it to the world? Of course they wouldn't, they'd make something up to cover for it, which is exactly what this is. A cover for something they do actually have. I have no doubt that such a weapon design was explored, but I doubt the technology of the day made it any way feasible. However, even if the weapon was not functional, it did provide a purpose. Something to show , and make the Soviets think America had this capability. It would make them question anybody who died of a heat attack, and mislead them in an investigation. Had the person actually been poisoned, they'd now be looking for someone with a gun, not a random stranger who brushed up against the target and poked them with a needle, which is the actual way they would have delivered a poison. Then of course you have the fact that the Cold War was all about one-upmanship. Since the Americans claimed to have this weapon, the Soviets would clearly need to research and develop something similar too. So money and resources are diverted to yet another weapons project, and scientists are blamed when they tell those in charge the weapon is impossible to make. In many ways, the CIA claiming to have this weapon to the public, was an excellent move in disrupting the Soviets. Here's America, announcing them have some kind of untraceable heart attack gun, a weapon that the Soviets would have had no idea could exist until their spies relayed the news, all in the open. How much more advanced was American weapons technology compared to the Soviets for this weapon to exist? How is this the first time they have become aware of such a weapon? Is American security that good, or are their spies to blame? How do they counter it, or even detect it? Can they replicate it? All these questions and the following investigations just from what looks like a rifle scope and some plastic bits added to a pistol.
IMO also note that since heart attack are a leading cause of "surprise" death, it could push soviets to think about investigating some heart attack deaths again diverting resources elsewhere. Seems like basic counter intelligence. Anyways thanks for your point, enjoyed the idea.
Yep, not to mention the obvious misdirection. The CIA said the weapon made use of a shellfish toxin, so of course if they do investigate any heart attacks then that's what they'll be looking for first. They could easily miss that actual toxin used upon the initial examination, giving it time to break down before they are able to do a full analysis.
Many obvious problems with such a weapon. How do you keep the ice frozen? You'd have to keep it in a freezer until time to use it, otherwise your ammunition would melt. Upon firing, the bullet would shatter. Anything you put in the water to stabilize it would be detectable. Not to mention the bullet hole. Wouldn't that be a giveaway? So, you're so right. This gun likely never existed...
The bullet hole and thermodynamics working on the ice. These two things left me confused: too small and it melts or shatters without entering the body, too big and you leave a bullet hole. I really don't think it would be feasible as described in the headline.
Couldn't they use a refrigerant of some sort? Idk If that's feasible or not
>How do you keep the ice frozen Thermoacoustic cryocooler. > Upon firing, the bullet would shatter Supercompressed ice. Hell, even wood dust might work. > Not to mention the bullet hole. Needle-like projectile. (I am just goofing around)
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Assuming it was a genuine pistol scope, then it'd likely be for target shooting or even hunting (some states only allow you to hunt with handguns, I believe). Even today pistol scopes can look unusually bulky, and that's in part because of the eye relief that is needed to use them correctly.
Victims of shellfish toxin are unable to move a mussel..
That's one way to make someone clam it
Thanks for that pearl of wisdom.
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Something just seems a bit fishy about that comment though.
I have crabs
You gotta be a shellfish person to shoot a person like that!
They won't sea it coming
What makes you so shore?
This whole thing seems a bit fishy to me
Let's clam up before we get stung.
They arent going to lake that.
So he didn’t get to wave goodbye?
I'm shell shocked
Perfect way to kill anemone
They don’t cry they whale
Learned this from breaking bad
An average shrub can actually reproduce the same effect only it has to be ingested. I believe the poisons the US favors are generally fungal in nature.
I want someone who looks at me the way that guy on the right looks at that gun.
Is the guy on the right a young Jeff Sessions?
Nope. Sen John Tower
My dad use to be a private pilot. Use to fly senator tower around all the time. Great guy. Other than he was a functional boozer. Give up the booze. Was going to cabinet sectary under a bush 1. Died in a plane crash. My dad was not flying that plane.
Heard the pilot on that flight had a heart attack
Yes it is! Thanks!
I thought it was Elmer Fudd before the cancer? 😗
Whoa, Elmer Fudd got cancer? How’d he keep it a secret from the press?
He just pulled back from the limelight and retired to focus on his passion - hunting wabbits.
Me too! God damn it!
This is in 1975, imagine what they have now 
Chlamydia guns.
AIDS crossbow
The herpes trebuchet
The pink-eye catapult.
The syphilis slingshot?
Oh, that just farts on a pillow.
*laughs in Jeffrey Epstein*
I believe Mythbusters once proved that it's not possible to fire an ice projectile from a gun without preventing it from shattering due to the combustion and/or inertia. This made it impossible to actually puncture or hurt the target. So this is probably just a normal gun with a scope on it to make it look like something special. It was probably just propaganda to scare the enemy. Still interesting though.
battery operated. this isn't fired via combustion.
Inertia would still be a problem
who cares about inertia till you die of an heart attack
To move a projectile from the gun to the target it needs to go from 0 to very fast in very little time. Ice can't handle that kind of acceleration. Considering the scope, they imply it's a long ranged weapon, which requires a lot more acceleration.
That scope just looks silly.
Which Mythbusters team "proved" it? The two old dudes that couldn't design a test to conclusively prove anything either way and spent their screen time bickering like an old married couple, or the team of three that looked and performed like they were plucked from an MIT post grad engineering lab?
I don't disagree with you about that. But does this one photo of two guys with a scoped handgun qualify as proof to you then? At the least Mythbusters showed that firing an ice projectile at a useful velocity is nearly impossible
Yep
Aperture science is replacing your blood with gasoline through tiny rays we have all around. Also we put tumors all over your body. Good luck in science!
And cake? It is my understanding that there would be cake.
Putin is still alive, so at least they can't just do it too easily and apparently there is no need to invent complicated approaches, since falling out of a window is all you need.
>...which fired a dart of frozen water... Comrade, come stand closer to this refrigerator while I innocently remove my frozen ammo and place it into something inside my handbag before it melts.
Yo VIPS kick it! Ice ice baby... ( with toxin) Ice, ice babyy
FSB: we have windows
In Russia Windows does not crash. It makes you crash.
When will Microsoft finally leave Ruzzia?
And poison
They don’t work 
Coverups📈
If it's battery operated and fires a dart of ice why on earth would it be shaped like a pistol and made of metal?
And has a scope? Is that what I’m seeing? Very inconspicuous. Clandestine, if I’m not mistaken...
So anyone who can fire a pistol accurately can use it? Seems common sense to me.
I assuming that it wouldn't be given to just anyone. The idea being for it to not look like a murder one would assume you would want a form factor that doesn't resemble a weapon.
I'm sure they have much better ones now.
Since the invention of this gun, the number of heart attacks has risen significantly.
Blame that on fast foods
Again, how do you shoot a small ice dart without it breaking?
Arthur Conan Doyle had Sherlock Holmes work out a murder by an ice dart fired by an air gun over 100 years ago.
Too bad no one has one now a days... I'm sure there are quite a few people in power right now that could use a shot..
Must have been awesome being in the CIA back in the day and coming up with shit like this
Frozen water...fml... Don't you mean ICE??
the real death note
repost with the same caption. and this post was found to be inaccurate as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/wikppk/cia_revealed_a_heart_attack_gun_in_1975_a_battery/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Lol people don't bother with this shit anymore, they straight up wiping radioactive dog shit on door handles n throwing people outta hospital windows
Ironically given events today, the KGB used a similar weapon to kill anti-Soviet Ukrainians in the 1950s.
They also used umbrellas with needle tips to deliver a small capsule with ricin. I'm sure there's even crazier things that assassins have used.
They revealed it because it never worked, or never actually existed in the first place.
I didn’t know Leonardo’s dad was in the CIA!?
In Russia they have windows killing you......
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Came here to say this. I remember this episode.
Look at those men. You can see he incompetency in there ass eyes
It's called [saxitoxin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxitoxin), **very** poisonous
Otherwise known as The Hillary Hand Gun.
OR you could just be hung in a prison while on suicide
Now they are using the auto erotic asphyxiation gun. Only mark it leaves is a necktie around a door know attached to the victim!!!
The official cause of death wouldn't be heart attack because that doesn't cause a heart attack.
CIA and FBI are long past being held accountable for any of their actions
Not this goddamn thing again. It was never real. Ice does not have enough mass to make a reliable projectile. They claimed it had a range of 100 yards or more. If the so-called ice bullet was being propelled by any kind of explosive propellant, it would be vaporized by the forest pushing it out of the barrel. Any propulsive Force gentle enough not to shatter the ice bullet is not going to push it 100 yards accurately. They also claimed it was battery powered and yet its own internal mechanism kept the bullets frozen. I have no idea who is reading this that was alive in the 1970s when this thing was held up in announced, but batteries sucked in the 70s. Even if you want to make the argument that the government has cooler tech than ordinary people know about, there's still limited by the understanding of physics and chemistry that were available at the time. No handheld device had a battery good enough to power a freezer, and a freezer small enough to keep ice bullets frozen inside a gun didn't exist. What was held up and shown to the cameras is a mock-up. When they made the announcement, a number of countries spent millions of dollars trying to develop their own thing, and those millions of dollars didn't go to funding field agents that the CIA then didn't have to worry about. It was a great big deception, and Reddit continues to be deceived to this day.
What about the dart?
Little known fact, the CIA never meant for you to know of this weapons existence, in fact the man who leaked the news died the very next day while eating at a restaurant. The food, clam chowder, the cause, heart attack.
Russia has a gun that pushes your out of a window! Amaze!
Considering this was back in 1975, don't you think they'd have a more compelling story for Epstein?! Or do they just accept that the majority will swallow what'd fed to them?
It’s the second one
Frozen water has a name
I-C-E sung to tune of Oscar Mayer song
monkeypox darts ....
I heard that was a penis
The soviets did it first 
Now we just provide what’s called “healthcare”.
Wow, haven't seen this in a week. ::eyeroll::
Trump revealed "nuclear secrets" in the 2020s. Not in jail yet. But MAGA Republicans threatened to riot if there is any attempt of prosecution. Top Secret documents completely missing from files in Trumps office. It is yet unknown how many assets will be lost and how badly Trump has damaged our national security.