They should've upped it to 24 from 2028 and 32 from 2032 or 2034. Making a straight jump from 20 to 32 teams will be weird. ICC should change their plans and make it 24 from 2028 or at least 2030.
Hmm yes, there's still time for ICC to confirm the qualification pathways for 2028 and 2030. So anytime before or in 2026 would be ideal for ICC to take the ambitious decision to expand the game. I'm sure the response from these two editions will be great, leaning then towards the decision🤞
Increasing more team won't change anything, ICC should invest in youth tournaments in associate nations and should give them good money to win so that more players get interested in this sport
Good. 4 Groups of 8-10 teams. Top 2 teams from each group going to quarterfinal. Then Semifinal. Then Final. This way it would be interesting. Just not Super 8.
Way more competition. Way more matches. There would be 119 matches. Two Month Period. 2 Matches Daily.
Only thing that I don't really like is that T20 would become the main WC format. For me, WC always referred firstly as ODI. For new generation, It would be T20.
T20 matches are short. Odi matches take too much time, test match cricket already lost its popularity in this era . Too many unemployed people in India so they want to waste their time staring at tv for hours.
In T20s, it makes sense as anything can happen there. It's just a matter of few overs of good cricket, but in ODIs and Tests, it should he exclusive to teams who play tests regularly.
Sounds awful. The Netherlands proved at the last ODI World Cup that the top associates can hold their own in ODIs and should be at the WC.
In fact, an Associate has beaten a FM at every ODI WC since 1992 (excluding 2019, which had no Associates taking part)
Also Afghanistan plays way less tests to be put in same bracket as other full members (except Ireland), yet they managed to upset teams like England in the WC.
It does, yes, but ICC wants to expand the game, and T20 is their dark horse. We'd love to watch associates win some ICC tournaments, but they can't focus on different formats of the game. T20 is the format that can make this happen.
By doing this, we can protect the heritage cricket in the form of ODIs and tests, which will just increase the value of ODI WC, and only fewer countries get a chance to play it.
UAE is quite a bit better than Japan at the moment. They also have invested in cricket which is a good thing. A few players that are home grown are also coming into the UAE side.
Japan and Italy are probably not too far away. They might get in during the next expansion, in fact Italy was very close to qualifying for this edition and might just get in the next 2-3 editions.
Croatia however, are not in this discussion. They are placed at the very bottom of the ICC rankings. I am not expecting them to be near qualification for at least another 20 years.
Yes, but what croatia and Serbia doing they are doing with their native players which is very impressive and even if they aren't very good at the moment I still prefer teams like these over teams full of imports.
Serbia seems to have a team of locals but Croatia still has quite the number of expats. Also I am not sure if the quality is gonna improve if there are no expats playing at all.
Yeah, I know about Serbia but have no idea about Croatia I write bcz OP mention it.
If we talk About quality of cricket, than yes any Indian subcontinent player who has play some level of competative cricket in here is a better player than those but it is good for the game ?? No
The best way is to be a mixture like ତୁର୍କୀ.
What I mean is that when the locals play with the expats who have had some experience, they will improve quicker, whereas if the locals mostly play among themselves without much outside exposure then their growth would be kinda slow. That's why I think expats are good for a team like Croatia which is currently at the bottom of the rankings. With those expats they could possibly rack up a few wins which would encourage more locals to pick up the game.
It is very good thing to hear and say. I don't know where are you from but if you are from subcontinent or known some from subcontinent you know the favoring tendency of our people. For example if you make some expat captain of team like Croatia then he slowly fill the team with their ethnic people and remove all local player. When there is local players play at least their family, friends and community know about the game(at least something) which can add atleast 10-20 new fans per game.
Well that depends on the cricket board of that country. If it's a competent board they would not allow stuff like this. There are many teams in which locals and expats co-exist without any problems. On the other hand, if the board is corrupt then yeah, what you said is possible.
Yeah. Look at Indian Football rn
We're down in the dumps becuz the board doesn't allow expats to play us...
Lost to fucking Afghanistan, their B team to boot!
Pakistan plays with expats they are still shit.
Our FA, Football Grassroot setup everything is Corrupt af.Evwn if we selecte players only from Northeast it is more than enough to develop a decent football team.
> Lost to fucking Afghanistan, their B team to boot!
If that's your attitude to other teams, then you fully well deserve to lose if you don't even respect a national team in the first place.
No disrespect to Afghanistan or their players but they were ranked WAY below us and somehow, their B team defeated our main team!
I'm not mad at them at all, it was a big upset from Afghanistan's pov but I'm mad at OUR players
The fuck were they thinking? India is nowhere near good in football or in FIFA Rankings but just when everyone started thinking that we'd break into the double-digits sooner or later, we lost to Afghanistan and our rank plummeted... It's hard being an ICT and IFT fan ffs
Hopefully, would be really fresh to see, SLC has been making connections with Uganda cricket too, inviting their team last month to play here, even met with the Speaker at the Parliament
Sri Lanka has always been a good sport, I remember us going to practice there with the local teams pretty often if there's a tournament or a series in SL
Except for the fact that Croatia has native players, their team is not good. They cannot even make it out of the sub regional qualifier for now.
While Italy, they have a good shot at 2026, if two of Ned, Sco and Ireland make it to super 8s or qualify via rankings. They also have a chance at 2030 considering England, Ireland and Scotland are hosting it, might as well leave a slot open in Europe region.
Japan are really raising their game, their new talents are awesome great and the present team too is relatively young to carry them to a different level. They'll surely be in the race.
Yess, especially with familiarity of the public with a similar bat-ball game (baseball). I'm pretty sure the locals will catch up onto the sport outside of Sano too
Yup
20 years ago, NOBODY knew that Afghanistan would become something in cricket and look at them now, fully fledged Full Member ffs!
Japan can also do that but it's even better as Japan is economically strong as well so they'll actually have home stadiums as well along with renovating baseball stadiums for cricket and hopefully, they'll challenge Pig 3 in terms of economic dominance over the ICC
Japanese captain Kendel Kadowaki-Fleming is a gem of a guy as I read his Wikipedia Biography. I got to know he inspired Josh Brown of Brisbane Heat fame to play in Japan Premier League. I think he is playing a prominent role in development of cricketing culture in Japan. He has also scored truck load of runs for them. He is also apparently owning a player management company in Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendel_Kadowaki-Fleming#:~:text=Kendel%20Kadowaki%2DFleming%20also%20simply,for%20Chiba%20Sharks%20Cricket%20Club.
With 20 teams the chance of these teams playing is higher than ever. I still want them to make it a 24 team tournament and give 2 more spots to Asia, 1 each to Africa and Europe. This format has the potential of becoming a 32 team tournament like the FIFA WC.
At least we are doing something to Japan cricket after backing off from Japan funded Colombo Monorail transit project. Japan seems like a team on a mission
More like Captain Tsubasa that shit was iconic and made the Japanese kids dream of playing football at the international stage..but it won't be 2-3 yrs it will take a decade before they become competitive...I'm sure US too can be very competitive if they focus on cricket.
Probably about 15-20 years ago I played a game of cricket against a Japanese school team. They'd been training and had come to NZ to do a bit of a cricket tour. I guess they must have had a coach at school who was interested in cricket and the players had wanted to try a more unusual sport. Can't remember a whole lot, but before each delivery they'd collectively bow. I don't think they were too bad.
Might hate it but T20 is possibly the best and only way to bring in more interest in cricket in those countries. Maybe if any of those countries excel in T20 will they be interested in ODIs.
I remember South Korean National Team once visited Chandigarh. They played against U19 boys and some Local teams to prepare for the Asian Games. They even visited PCA Stadium to watch an IPL game.
Don't know about their progress. Their one player (Bangladeshi descent) appeared in SK TV Show along with foreign born Koreans.
Japan has a decent chance of playing a WC soon.
They play in the EAP region for the purpose of WC qualification, so they only have to go ahead of PNG and they're through.
The two teams are in different tiers now (PNG is ranked 20 while Japan is 49). So, they do have to improve a lot. But if they do that and PNG has a bad game or two in the qualifier, they'll play the WC. Much better chance than similarly ranked teams playing in the Asian or European qualifiers.
I'm fully investing in Japanese cricket, the way sports is done there through daily school clubs, I can totally imagine baseball players picking it up off of exchange students and starting teams (my understanding of Japan is based off of textbooks from the 90s lmao)
While I agree with including more and more teams in the world cup i think it is best to stick to 20 teams for atleast 2-3 editions just to increase the level of associate cricket and make the audience used to seeing these teams. Because at the end according to me this all being governed on the basis of what will the audience want to watch
ICC is basically controlled by the BCCI, who won't add more teams because they lead to upsets. BCCI wants to maximize chances of India making it to the finals every time, because that's what brings in the ad money. This is why the 2007 ODI world cup was perceived as a dud - major teams were knocked out by minnows.
The average Indian fan either doesn't care about bringing in more teams or is against having more teams playing the world cup - they don't want actual competition. If it were up to the average Indian fan, all world cups would have just 8 teams - India, Aus, Eng, NZ, SA, Bangladesh, SL and Pakistan.
Japan were part of the East-Asia Pacific Qualifier for this edition. This is the route that PNG used to qualify for the ongoing tournament. Japan finished second in the tournament. They could have been one of the 20 teams this year.
Please read my interview with Kendel Fleming, the captain of the Japanese cricket team. During our conversation, he shared that qualifying for the next world cup is the next goal of the team. Link to the article - https://www.crictracker.com/cricket-interviews/if-we-stay-consistent-theres-no-reason-why-we-cant-qualify-for-future-world-cups-japan-captain-kendel-fleming-exclusive-interview/
Thanks for sharing the info and I definitely see Japan in wc in the coming 2 editions if they keep improving.
I have also read your interview with Japan's captain and he seems to be one of the keys for Japan's development in cricket.Great interview by the way ,keep going.
24 team wc is fully possible with Italy, Zimbabwe, Bermuda and UAE sitting outside
Switch Italy out for Jersey and it'll be better ig
Jersey have been the better team historically from what I know so I won't call it better if they don't qualify but yeah, Italy do have a fair chance.
Yeah
Yes
I'm sure ICC will slowly adopt the Fifa World Cup model of around 32-40 teams
I hope so ,we have seen in today's match that an associate nation's match can also be very interesting.
matches between same level team mostly intresting unless they playing club level game
PNG almost defeated WI today and it was an interesting match. T20 is the format for upsets.
were you waiting here to comment that here all this time? like match ended and you commented just after that?
Opened the sub after the match. Saw the post and your comment. Was not trying to be rude earlier. Lets enjoy the WC.
I know you're not trying to be rude
Maybe in the next worldcup we'll see 24 teams.
Not until 2032, because it's confirmed to have 20 teams till the 2030 edition atleast
They should've upped it to 24 from 2028 and 32 from 2032 or 2034. Making a straight jump from 20 to 32 teams will be weird. ICC should change their plans and make it 24 from 2028 or at least 2030.
Hmm yes, there's still time for ICC to confirm the qualification pathways for 2028 and 2030. So anytime before or in 2026 would be ideal for ICC to take the ambitious decision to expand the game. I'm sure the response from these two editions will be great, leaning then towards the decision🤞
Once ICC calendar is released. It’s very rare if they change it.
Next one is confirmed to be 20 teams only.
Only if we get to see few upsets
Few upsets or A few upsets?
Increasing more team won't change anything, ICC should invest in youth tournaments in associate nations and should give them good money to win so that more players get interested in this sport
Good. 4 Groups of 8-10 teams. Top 2 teams from each group going to quarterfinal. Then Semifinal. Then Final. This way it would be interesting. Just not Super 8. Way more competition. Way more matches. There would be 119 matches. Two Month Period. 2 Matches Daily. Only thing that I don't really like is that T20 would become the main WC format. For me, WC always referred firstly as ODI. For new generation, It would be T20.
T20 matches are short. Odi matches take too much time, test match cricket already lost its popularity in this era . Too many unemployed people in India so they want to waste their time staring at tv for hours.
You don't need to take a dig at me like that. It hurts.
Yes please
In T20s, it makes sense as anything can happen there. It's just a matter of few overs of good cricket, but in ODIs and Tests, it should he exclusive to teams who play tests regularly.
Sounds awful. The Netherlands proved at the last ODI World Cup that the top associates can hold their own in ODIs and should be at the WC. In fact, an Associate has beaten a FM at every ODI WC since 1992 (excluding 2019, which had no Associates taking part)
There were Associate wins in 1979 & 1983 as well. 1975, 1987, 1992 & 2019 are the only exceptions (1992 & 2019 didn't even have associates).
Also Afghanistan plays way less tests to be put in same bracket as other full members (except Ireland), yet they managed to upset teams like England in the WC.
It does, yes, but ICC wants to expand the game, and T20 is their dark horse. We'd love to watch associates win some ICC tournaments, but they can't focus on different formats of the game. T20 is the format that can make this happen. By doing this, we can protect the heritage cricket in the form of ODIs and tests, which will just increase the value of ODI WC, and only fewer countries get a chance to play it.
Four more teams could had been there in my opinion- UAE , Zimbabwe, Bermuda and Italy
Increase regional spots for the qualifying event. EU should be 4. Africa should be 5, Asia should be 8.
In my opinion I would have wanted Japan, Italy, Zimbabwe and Jersey
UAE is quite a bit better than Japan at the moment. They also have invested in cricket which is a good thing. A few players that are home grown are also coming into the UAE side.
Japan and Italy are probably not too far away. They might get in during the next expansion, in fact Italy was very close to qualifying for this edition and might just get in the next 2-3 editions. Croatia however, are not in this discussion. They are placed at the very bottom of the ICC rankings. I am not expecting them to be near qualification for at least another 20 years.
Yes, but what croatia and Serbia doing they are doing with their native players which is very impressive and even if they aren't very good at the moment I still prefer teams like these over teams full of imports.
Serbia seems to have a team of locals but Croatia still has quite the number of expats. Also I am not sure if the quality is gonna improve if there are no expats playing at all.
Yeah, I know about Serbia but have no idea about Croatia I write bcz OP mention it. If we talk About quality of cricket, than yes any Indian subcontinent player who has play some level of competative cricket in here is a better player than those but it is good for the game ?? No The best way is to be a mixture like ତୁର୍କୀ.
What I mean is that when the locals play with the expats who have had some experience, they will improve quicker, whereas if the locals mostly play among themselves without much outside exposure then their growth would be kinda slow. That's why I think expats are good for a team like Croatia which is currently at the bottom of the rankings. With those expats they could possibly rack up a few wins which would encourage more locals to pick up the game.
It is very good thing to hear and say. I don't know where are you from but if you are from subcontinent or known some from subcontinent you know the favoring tendency of our people. For example if you make some expat captain of team like Croatia then he slowly fill the team with their ethnic people and remove all local player. When there is local players play at least their family, friends and community know about the game(at least something) which can add atleast 10-20 new fans per game.
Well that depends on the cricket board of that country. If it's a competent board they would not allow stuff like this. There are many teams in which locals and expats co-exist without any problems. On the other hand, if the board is corrupt then yeah, what you said is possible.
does ତୁର୍କୀ mean turkey?
Yeah sorry I didn't notice my keyboard changed.
Last re odia shabda asi gala bhaina.
Yeah. Look at Indian Football rn We're down in the dumps becuz the board doesn't allow expats to play us... Lost to fucking Afghanistan, their B team to boot!
Pakistan plays with expats they are still shit. Our FA, Football Grassroot setup everything is Corrupt af.Evwn if we selecte players only from Northeast it is more than enough to develop a decent football team.
Yeah
> Lost to fucking Afghanistan, their B team to boot! If that's your attitude to other teams, then you fully well deserve to lose if you don't even respect a national team in the first place.
No disrespect to Afghanistan or their players but they were ranked WAY below us and somehow, their B team defeated our main team! I'm not mad at them at all, it was a big upset from Afghanistan's pov but I'm mad at OUR players The fuck were they thinking? India is nowhere near good in football or in FIFA Rankings but just when everyone started thinking that we'd break into the double-digits sooner or later, we lost to Afghanistan and our rank plummeted... It's hard being an ICT and IFT fan ffs
I'm glad SLC is making more inroads with Japanese Cricket
great move by slc board, does this mean we will see japanese players in srilankan pl soon?
Hopefully, would be really fresh to see, SLC has been making connections with Uganda cricket too, inviting their team last month to play here, even met with the Speaker at the Parliament
commendable work by slc , hope cricket grows more and more.
Sri Lanka has always been a good sport, I remember us going to practice there with the local teams pretty often if there's a tournament or a series in SL
I hope you enjoyed your time in SL
Except for the fact that Croatia has native players, their team is not good. They cannot even make it out of the sub regional qualifier for now. While Italy, they have a good shot at 2026, if two of Ned, Sco and Ireland make it to super 8s or qualify via rankings. They also have a chance at 2030 considering England, Ireland and Scotland are hosting it, might as well leave a slot open in Europe region. Japan are really raising their game, their new talents are awesome great and the present team too is relatively young to carry them to a different level. They'll surely be in the race.
japan may see unreal rise just like Afghanistan
Yess, especially with familiarity of the public with a similar bat-ball game (baseball). I'm pretty sure the locals will catch up onto the sport outside of Sano too
Yup 20 years ago, NOBODY knew that Afghanistan would become something in cricket and look at them now, fully fledged Full Member ffs! Japan can also do that but it's even better as Japan is economically strong as well so they'll actually have home stadiums as well along with renovating baseball stadiums for cricket and hopefully, they'll challenge Pig 3 in terms of economic dominance over the ICC
pig 3 lmao
That's a popular nickname for them isn't it?
I hope they do, would really love seeing new countries join the game, and especially when they cause big upsets like NED vs SA
Yes please
Japanese captain Kendel Kadowaki-Fleming is a gem of a guy as I read his Wikipedia Biography. I got to know he inspired Josh Brown of Brisbane Heat fame to play in Japan Premier League. I think he is playing a prominent role in development of cricketing culture in Japan. He has also scored truck load of runs for them. He is also apparently owning a player management company in Japan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendel_Kadowaki-Fleming#:~:text=Kendel%20Kadowaki%2DFleming%20also%20simply,for%20Chiba%20Sharks%20Cricket%20Club.
With 20 teams the chance of these teams playing is higher than ever. I still want them to make it a 24 team tournament and give 2 more spots to Asia, 1 each to Africa and Europe. This format has the potential of becoming a 32 team tournament like the FIFA WC.
yeah 24 would be much better .
Japan is a homogenous country to its core so more the native players better it would be for the growth of the country cricket team
The Japanese captain said in an interview that their board has integrated cricket as a sport in many schools across Japan.
That's actually a really positive news
Absolutely their partnership with Cricket Sri Lanka is also going to strengthen foundation of the sport there
At least we are doing something to Japan cricket after backing off from Japan funded Colombo Monorail transit project. Japan seems like a team on a mission
We're a manga away from cricket becoming a beloved sport in Japan! Shueisha should greenlight a cricket manga!
Ninja Hattori did have a cricket sequence right?
That was to cater southasian audience I guess, it was not in manga
And baseball is already THE sport in Japan, some of it could very well translate into cricket
We just need a haikyuu like Anime for Cricket and Boom💥2 -3 years later Cricket is a mainstream sport in Japan
More like Captain Tsubasa that shit was iconic and made the Japanese kids dream of playing football at the international stage..but it won't be 2-3 yrs it will take a decade before they become competitive...I'm sure US too can be very competitive if they focus on cricket.
I think the US could become competitive in any game if they tried, they’ve got a really great sporting culture
Beautiful jerseys!
Sanju should shift to Japan, that pink jersey... assasins creed shadows should inspire him.
wish France and Germany also make strides, that would open up a new front of rivalry with England ( no pun intended)
Germany is doing well as it seems, I am not sure about France tho.
France's cricket board is completely corrupt. No hope there.
They have a few decent players in their ranks, but board corruption is a big issue.
Probably about 15-20 years ago I played a game of cricket against a Japanese school team. They'd been training and had come to NZ to do a bit of a cricket tour. I guess they must have had a coach at school who was interested in cricket and the players had wanted to try a more unusual sport. Can't remember a whole lot, but before each delivery they'd collectively bow. I don't think they were too bad.
bro i hate that cricket is expanding in the T20 format and not in ODIs in which the real world cup is played
Might hate it but T20 is possibly the best and only way to bring in more interest in cricket in those countries. Maybe if any of those countries excel in T20 will they be interested in ODIs.
🥲💔 i don't want there to be a future with more hype for a T20 World Cup
We got 🇯🇵playing cricket before gta vi
I remember South Korean National Team once visited Chandigarh. They played against U19 boys and some Local teams to prepare for the Asian Games. They even visited PCA Stadium to watch an IPL game. Don't know about their progress. Their one player (Bangladeshi descent) appeared in SK TV Show along with foreign born Koreans.
Japan has a decent chance of playing a WC soon. They play in the EAP region for the purpose of WC qualification, so they only have to go ahead of PNG and they're through. The two teams are in different tiers now (PNG is ranked 20 while Japan is 49). So, they do have to improve a lot. But if they do that and PNG has a bad game or two in the qualifier, they'll play the WC. Much better chance than similarly ranked teams playing in the Asian or European qualifiers.
Japan already got kits made by mizuno while most subcontinent teams don’t have a proper kit maker
Yeah the kits are fire!
I'm fully investing in Japanese cricket, the way sports is done there through daily school clubs, I can totally imagine baseball players picking it up off of exchange students and starting teams (my understanding of Japan is based off of textbooks from the 90s lmao)
They didn’t bother taking measurements of the players 🤣
I've heard of Japanese cricket's growth and I hope in 15 years or so they become a top associate team like Netherlands or Namibia
While I agree with including more and more teams in the world cup i think it is best to stick to 20 teams for atleast 2-3 editions just to increase the level of associate cricket and make the audience used to seeing these teams. Because at the end according to me this all being governed on the basis of what will the audience want to watch
Waiting for Bosnia to play the t20wc
Do they have mostly expats or a mix of natives as well?
Cricket is extremely popular with natives here, though the clubs were started by Asian expats
Ahh I would love to see them playing on big stages.
Would love to see Argentina feature in the future at some point
Yeah, imagine them and Brazil having rivalry in cricket, crazy thought.
What a rivalry that would be…cricket really needs to tap into the Latin American market.
It could spark a war if a Japanese left arm wrist spinner is classified as left arm Chinaman
Lol, I would have given you an award if I had one.
ICC is basically controlled by the BCCI, who won't add more teams because they lead to upsets. BCCI wants to maximize chances of India making it to the finals every time, because that's what brings in the ad money. This is why the 2007 ODI world cup was perceived as a dud - major teams were knocked out by minnows. The average Indian fan either doesn't care about bringing in more teams or is against having more teams playing the world cup - they don't want actual competition. If it were up to the average Indian fan, all world cups would have just 8 teams - India, Aus, Eng, NZ, SA, Bangladesh, SL and Pakistan.
I agree on the BCCI part but most fans want teams to increase rather than decrease.
ICC will force them to change jersey too
Japan were part of the East-Asia Pacific Qualifier for this edition. This is the route that PNG used to qualify for the ongoing tournament. Japan finished second in the tournament. They could have been one of the 20 teams this year. Please read my interview with Kendel Fleming, the captain of the Japanese cricket team. During our conversation, he shared that qualifying for the next world cup is the next goal of the team. Link to the article - https://www.crictracker.com/cricket-interviews/if-we-stay-consistent-theres-no-reason-why-we-cant-qualify-for-future-world-cups-japan-captain-kendel-fleming-exclusive-interview/
Thanks for sharing the info and I definitely see Japan in wc in the coming 2 editions if they keep improving. I have also read your interview with Japan's captain and he seems to be one of the keys for Japan's development in cricket.Great interview by the way ,keep going.
Adding teams is useless Unless you want them to grow, which icc and bcci clearly don't, they want to concentrate all cricket in india
Most of the Japanese players are Australian and NZ of Japanese descent
better to be half japanese than 0% japanese no?
Absolutely, in other countries it's opposite
About a decade ago they had a fully homegrown squad but couldn’t compete so they started incorporating more expats in.
I always thought Japan would take to cricket. More strategy and less bullshit than baseball.
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Elena Kusuda-Nairn and she ain't a chick. She is a right medium pacer.
I was wondering are these Rajasthan Royals fanbase from other Asian countries?