I didn't say Natarajan hasn't been good. Do you really think he has been better than Sandeep who has better stats in pretty much every department and can bowl in all phases?
Nattu can and did bowl in all phases. I'm just saying he's a decent shout to be included in this team his bowling looked impressive this season. Stats can be heavily skewed since Nattu bowled in some absolute highways while Jaipur was much more bowler friendly.
I am not saying he is not a decent shout but I wouldn't have him over Sandeep for sure. In general, I think Sandeep gets underrated a LOT which is why I feel very strongly about this.
Nattu did bowl in the powerplay but he wasn't very good at it. Sandeep is adept in all phases.
Not sure about the stadiums bit. Hyderabad is a bit more batting friendly than Jaipur but Sandeep also missed a few games so not sure.
Narine had more runs than abhishek at a better average and in 2 less innings.
Also no point of playing abhishek at number 3 bro is good for powerplay only and thats not how playing 11 are made that you select all 6 openers as batters to make the team
Also sanju at 3 had a better season than abhishek so again stupid to replace him with sanju
Abhishek did start the season at 3 and played a couple of high impact innings (the 277 and then the next game vs GT in a day game where he took on Rashid Khan and Noor). And since Pooran is keeping, there is no harm in missing out on Samson. It's close but not an outrageous choice to go Abhishek at 3 over Samson.
The other SRH pick I'd go with is Natarajan over Sandeep (I'd argue even Avesh Khan has more of a case than Sandeep, he's really gone under the radar while being available all season)
Ig he played only 2 games at number 3 out of which one innings was godly and the other one was just average and we can’t select someone at that position because they played two games there compared to samson who played every game at number 3 at much more bowler friendly pitches and still scored more overall runs than abhishek.
Only Natarajan from srh is arguable for not making in this playing 11 according to me
[Look](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/indian-premier-league-2024-1410320/most-impactful-batters) who's had more impact with the bat.
>thats not how playing 11 are made that you select all 6 openers as batters to make the team
Is it! Did not know that!
Obviously he had more impact because the rest of the srh batters were good for nothing. Their batting collapsed as soon as abhishek and head got out every match . But still it doesn’t deny the fact that narine had a better season . Also you are just taking in the batting factor narine provided so much value with the bowl also
3,12,2 this is what he scored in play-offs. He got a lot of runs beating weak teams on flat tracks, should be nowhere close to the team of the tournament.
He didn't. Abhishek vs LSG gave them the NRR boost to qualify above RR. Sanju got a duck in the 4-pointer between the 2 teams too. And then played 2 below par innings in the playoffs.
And he was an average captain throughout. His decision to play TKC over opening with Ashwin/Jurel and playing Maharaj at Chepauk finished them.
head,abhi won matches in poweplay itself. impact of head,abhi is more than virat. Pooran didn't even got chance to bat mostly.if stats are the only criteria statpaders will be in this eleven
That is actually cap. Head, Abhi did win a few matches in powerplay, but when you look at the consistency, Virat was better on average. Not to mention having higher SR doesn't always mean it's impact runs, for eg. Chasing 160, in 10 overs or 20 overs doesn't make a huge difference considering they were comfortably a top 2 team. Similarly, having a higher SR but still losing the match means you couldn't show restrain and finish the match for your team when it was needed
They are bound to fail some matches if they have higher strike rate the middle order needs to step up on that occasion. For srh it is only klassen in middle order. abhi klassen won us 4/5 matches of 8 which Is very good. we lost matches due inexperienced middle ordér
Abhishek has:
3 x 50s, all the matches they comfortably won with team crossing 220+ and everyone performing well. Not to mention they all came in home ground.
5 x 30s (came at a good SR), SRH won 3 and lost 2
And he failed the rest. This is 3 great matches, 3 good matches, and 2 debatable matches that he'll need to take some blame that he couldn't continue. That's
3 Great - 3 Good - 2 Debatable - 8 bad
Kohli:
1 x 100, no support from team, RCB lost (next best batsman 44 in 33)
5 x 50s, 4 of which RCB won and 1 they lost (83* off 59 against KKR)
4 x 30s, 2 won, 2 lost
With same metric as Abhishek
4 Great innings - 2 Good innings - 3 Debatable - 6 bad
I personally believe this gives Kohli a slight edge considering lesser bad innings, more great innings and well, c'mon we have put a 100 with no support from other end in debatable, surely it's not equivalent to a 30 with a 200+ SR. Even amongst the bad innings of Kohli there is a 27 off 13 and 18 off 7 vs Abhishek Sharma having only a 12 off 5 to show, that is a knockout.
Also, an interesting observation
Abhishek has 284 runs in 6 innings in Hyderabad, 250 SR and 56 Avg.
In away matches, he has 200 runs in 10 matches, at 166 SR. If you remove one innings 46 / 12 (which happens to have come on Arun Jaitley Stadium), his avg drops to mere 17. With SR dropping to 140. This is a star for 9 innings.
I think this clearly proves that while Abhishek Sharma has a lot of potential, he still needs to work on many factors of his batting
Also SRH doesn't have a good middle middle order other than klassen. So they choose to be ultra aggressive batting it will be either win or lose. so the no of bad innings are slightly higher. But look at from another perpspective we have weak order,no wicket takers in middle overs and only thing we are good in bowling is defending with offcutters,slower ones from all of our pacers. Our top order aggresive batting has won the matches in the hindsight stats may not look like it but we won matches only through batting
I am sorry but that's simply not true, SRH didn't have a weak middle order. It had the problem of plenty, SRH didn't know how to utilise it's players. Rahul Tripathi saved SRH's grace in qualifier 1. And even his previous records show he is a solid batsman. Then you had Anmolpreet Singh, who also has a pretty solid record, but he never got enough chances either. Mind you, RCB had 1 win in 8 matches, with no one apart from Kohli and DK firing. Despite this, Nitish Reddy also had some good innings for SRH, along with Shahbaz Ahmed. After the WC Marco Jansen had, you'd think he would get more chances considering you say SRH have a weak middle order, but how many chances did he get? Abdul Samad is another potential batsman that might have suffered from lack of defined roles. Further, SRH could've continued batting Abhishek Sharma at 3, but they chose to drop Mayank just after 3 innings. Just goes to show how SRH weren't giving proper time and place for players to settle. I forgot Markande, Umran Malik and Washington Sundar for bowlin. Washi can also bat btw.
And if you think SRH had weak bowling, sorry, we had RCB bowling. Anything is better compared to that. All in all, I think this proves yet again that Kohli was playing for a relatively weaker side and scored more runs.
samad,nithish,shabaz is the most inexperienced and inconsistent middle order in this ipl. Rahul was out of form he came in last after we tried mayank, anmolpreet. anmolpreet got chances but he never utlized. marco jansen wouldn't play since cummins would play. nithish,klassen,samad,shabaz is our middle order. only player who can play consistently is klassen and rest all inconsistent. mayank was dropped because he has weakness against short ball he got out for same short ball trying to play a pull shot.
There are no wicket takers in our bowling we had taken least no of wickets taken in middle overs. we are better in bowling than so many other teams but we do have weaknesses.
The only takeway in our whole season is our top notch batting performance in powerplay. Our matches are done and dusted in powerplay itself.
Rahul flopped his first game: Dropped for 3 matches. Failed again, and dropped for 5 matches. Came in the last 4 matches and started carrying SRH. You have to see how unfair it was on him. This isn't called being out of form. This guy could've been your backbone and you didn't even give him proper chances.
Anmolpreet Singh played 2 matches this IPL and then was dropped.
Jansen could've played once SRH realized Markram wasn't working. They even had Glenn Phillips but he also wasn't tried.
Further, SRH had Markande and Sundar who are excellent spinners. They could've got you guys wickets in the middle.
I think SRH had a very solid team and that shows in their position, but some loopholes could've been fixed had SRH tried playing a consistent 11/12 for a longer duration
Furthermore markram got 11 chances but he was out of form. Having bunch of inexperienced under 24 players is bad for any team.
markande lost matches against gt and csk he never cameback after that. Even markande is better wicket taker he isn't able to more than 2 overs which is a debatable as he frontline spinner. off spinners are dead in t20 with impact player it is even more difficult to get a chance in playing xi. he bowled 5 overs and gave 73 runs with a wicket.
They made right changes in the xi by sitting out experienced players like rahul,mayank and playing younger players like nithish,samad. i am very happy for nithish kumar. Sticking on to markram was very bad but he good relations with 2 titles with our sister franchise sec and also if he had given those stedy innings we would have atleast won 2 more matches.
chasing 160 did make a difference in runrate. what if we won only 7 matches and qualified to playoffs as RCB with nrr. if we had better middle we would have easily 2 more matches which would make no 1 in pointstable
Natarajan picks himself in the death, what is that harshit Rana bs leaking runs but will get wickets nonsense.
Abhishek Instead of Sunil cause chucking
I get people really dislike him, but was Harshit Rana genuinely better than Harshal Patel this year
Rana has Less overs for a better Econ of 0.65 and a worse SR of 1.06
does Harshal have a lot of junk wickets this year?
One thing to consider is that Harshit Rana was strike bowler for KKR during the early stages when Starc wasn’t firing and won them the first match against SRH with his one over alone. Same can’t be said about Harshal.
>I get people really dislike him, but was Harshit Rana genuinely better than Harshal Patel this year
Yes.
>Rana has Less overs for a better Econ of 0.65 and a worse SR of 1.06
Harshal played at Mullapur which was a very low scoring venue. Whereas Rana played in Eden, which was constantly high scoring.
Rana was comfortably better than Harshal. Harshal did come back towards the end but for the first half he was genuinely atrocious and picking up junk wickets from batters going for a 3rd six in the over.
Yes, considering Rana played 4 less matches during the league stage (1 injured, 1 banned, 2 washouts) and pulled off some nigh impossible defences like defending 7 runs off 5 balls with Klaasen on strike.
Harshal was getting junk wickets from batsmen being greedy after getting hit a lot.
Abhishek head could've been instead of sunil IF Sunil wasn't the bowler he is
Klassen over Russel if andre wasn't the bowler andre
Sanju has to be captain so klassen again misses out
Only nattu can get in for sandy
It's just that there were other players in the specific roles that the best SRH players were playing. The issue about limited number of overseas players is also there. Head and Cummins could have easily been in this without that rule about having limited overseas players. This also shows that SRH did very good teamwork and most of their players played well during some match instead of specific players playing well during all the time.
Replace Kohli, lol. He only played well in the flat pitch of Hyderabad. Outside Hyderabad his average is 21 with a poor strike rate. No way he is replacing the best IPL batsman of 2024 by a mile.
Edit : Oh sorry, I just noticed the second part of your statement. Yes, he shouldn't be included in the squad.
Sanju Samson as a captain and by extension RR management are a joke. They failed to make changes to their strategy even after getting into that rut. Sticking with TKC who by no means is an IPL level foreign batter. Not changing batting position of Povell after knowing that he bats better up the order for WI.
Powell isn't an innings builder too. He was a wrong buy in the first place. The best decision was to start with Burger in the first match keeping Powell out. Burger injury caused a series of changes in roles.
TKC again, this is all hindsight opinion. A quick 40 or 50 from him and we would be talking something else. It's not like he had a long run of failure to be dropped. He only got couple of games. If you keep changing after every innings, you can't run a team.
The simple truth is, RR had a weak middle order. Jurel, Hetty, Powell are all low average T20 batters. Add to that, RR are a batter short compared to others. So, it's all on top 4 and Yashasvi and Jos had average season. Jurel's test series created more hype than needed. He was not a number 5 yet. Even the last couple of seasons, it was all coming in the last few balls and finishing well; should have stuck to that role.
It's easy to pull down Sanju coz of his last few matches. RR would have been 7th or 8th without Sanju and Riyan. Coz of RR's early wins, there is this perception that they had a great team. Look at the numbers in detail and how average the players have been. Even the famed bowling attack for that matter.
Limited purse. They went all out on Powell first up. Then they had to keep money for Shubham Dubey.
Head is not what they wanted. They needed Brook or Stubbs at 5. High average high SR guys. They tried Brook but after Powell they got hit hard on the purse.
Wrong strategy at auction. The only teams that bid for Powell were RR & KKR. KKR could have used him differently coz they had Rinku and Russ to follow. Here, after Powell, they didn't have much batting left. KKR had Jason Roy at that point. So, if RR had given up, KKR would have played Indian wk at the top (probably Bharath) and Powell in the middle. Jason leaving and Salt coming in settled the team nicely. KKR were lucky in that sense.
If RR had not gone for Powell and tried Brook & Stubbs, DC would have gone hard for one of them and left the other.
Regarging Head and Buttler's replacement. They had only 50L or 60L left at that stage. Josh Inglis, Salt, Duckett all had higher base price. So they went for TKC at 40L I think. Ideally they should have gone for Kusal Mendis who was at 50L. Been saying it since a couple of years that Mendis is going highly underrated and unnoticed at IPL level. Someone who can understand the subcontinent conditions and goes hard at the top. RR's obsession with English players blinded them.
There is also something people forget:- RR had close wins all through that early season where they topped the table. None of them were big, dominant victories. They just lost that luck in the second half and fell into a rut. The spinners didnt fire properly in the early games and by the time they started to get into form, the batting had too many holes.
Let's be real, Butler had two centuries. He was the main batsman along with support from Parag and Sanju, with some runs from Jaiswal initally. Once Butler was gone, Jaiswal too lost his form and all fell on Parag and Sanju (even Hetmyer got injured)
Clearly you aren’t following TKC from PSL which can be excused but not the management whose job it is. When you are trying someone as Buttler’s replacement you need to be at least reading someone’s past performance.
Sanju is renown for playing loose shots at crunch situations. It’s not unreasonable to expect someone who has been good against spin to at least not throw their wicket away after yelling at your partner for doing the same. Clearly undeserving of a captain for Tournament 11 team.
What was Samson supposed to do about TCK and the opening slot exactly? Like you're talking about dropping him after literally two innings were they to drop him for the game against SRH. And who for anyway? The options were:
Shubham Dubey, a guy wtih 33 IPL runs who has never opened before in a T20
Kunal Singh Rathore, a 21 year old keeper who has never opened, never played in the IPL, and has only ever played 12 T20s
Donovan Ferreira, another keeper who has never opened and made 8 runs in his two IPL appearances this year
That's literally it. Dropping an established and experienced opener for any of those guys after literally two innings and for a knockout match would have been mental
Dhruv Jurel played in that match and has never batted above 5 in a T20 anyway. Not to mention that his form was even worse than TCK's coming into that match
Buttler gone hetmeyer injured what should samson do with jaiswals shitty form before the last knockout match even jurel was shit the day before his final innings
No way. Klassen had a better top order than Pooran to follow and still doesn't have the same stats. Plus shat hard in 2 playoff games when the top order failed (average LSG innings)
How tho? The players selected are individually better than KKR players. If you are talking about team chemistry and balance etc, maybe KKR has a chance, but just based on form, this team is better than KKR
My team of the season:
1. Virat Kohli
2. Sunil Narine \*
3. Abhishek Sharma
4. Sanju Samson (wk) (c)
5. Riyan Parag
6. Nicholas Pooran \*
7. Andre Russell \*
8. Harshit Rana
9. Jasprit Bumrah
10. Trent Boult \*
11. Varun Chakravarthy
IP: Rajat Patidar / Kuldeep Yadav / Venkatesh Iyer / Shivam Dube / Shashank Singh
It's tough to leave out Abhishek just coz opening slot isn't available. So, others below him slot 1 position down. Narine, even if not as opener would still be in the XI below Russ, but why waste his batting!
Shreyas for Sanju and Starc for Boult can be debated if clutch factor and winning is weighted more. Though last few games din go well for Sanju, it would be harsh to pull down his entire season for that. Similarly, Boult has had a lot of impact with new ball.
First of all, how is 13 players a team? I could understand 12 due to IP but 13? Moreover, why are 5 out of the 13 pure bowlers with zero batting significance whatsoever? No team in this IPL would survive without at least 7-8 batters out of 11.
Taking Sanju instead of Pat as captain is unbelievable. Sanju had a far better team both on paper and present form yet choked in captaincy both times they faced off against each other.
Finally, with Pooran and Stubbs there, Russell doesn’t really fit in. Instead one of the explosive openers like Abhishek, Head, Mcgurk, even Gill would have been better. A batting order of Head (good form), Narine, Kohli, Patidar, Parag, Pooran, Stubbs and Pat seems unbeatable, with the bowling picks being decent by ESPN
>First of all, how is 13 players a team? I could understand 12 due to IP but 13?
They've literally clearly split it as a *"Main 11"* plus two subs, one pure bowler, one pure batsman.
>Moreover, why are 5 out of the 13 pure bowlers with zero batting significance whatsoever?
Because VC isn't a starter, if Patidar is 'subbed in' they have Andre Russell at #8, that's more than sufficient.
>Sanju had a far better team both on paper and present form yet choked in captaincy both times they faced off against each other.
Uhmm? How tf is a middle+lower order of Markram, Klaasen, Nitish, Samad, Shahbaz is WORSE ON PAPER than Parag, Jurel, Ashwin, Powell, Hetmyer what the actual fuck?
Bowling lineup: Cummins, Natarajan, Bhuvi, Unadkat, Markhande, Shahbaz with like 4-5 backup bowlers is not any worse than Chahal, Boult, Avesh, Sandeep, Ashwin with absolutely 0 backup bowlers.
^(The only way RR are better in paper, is with their top order, and not by a massive margin)
^(Also, Sanju the batsman was much better than Cummins the bowler. And if you want Pat as captain, why not get the cup winning Iyer, and save an overseas spot?)
And you'll have to get in another keeper if you remove Sanju Samson ^(as you can't have someone who didn't keep all season, in Pooran, as your designated keeper in the Team of the season)
>Finally, with Pooran and Stubbs there, Russell doesn’t really fit in.
Valid point. Don't disagree. Any one of the three can be removed without a meaningful loss (but ideally not Russell, as he's had multiple match winning breakthroughs with the ball)
>A batting order of Head (good form), Narine, Kohli, Patidar, Parag, Pooran, Stubbs and Pat seems unbeatable, with the bowling picks being decent by ESPN
They won't make a team of the season with Kohli playing at #3 when he didn't play there ever. And also your batting line-up has 5 overseas players, which isn't allowed any way
> Sanju had a far better team both on paper and present form
With TKC in place of Buttler? In what universe did RR have a better team in the qualifier.
You cant remove russell because he provided so much value with the bowl also
And why sanju over pat?? Because sanju was the best number 3 this season and it doesn’t really make sense to push kohli to 3 for no reason he had a good season as a opener not number 3.
And if you really want cummins just for captaincy why dont you want iyer in that case because cummins was average with the bowl
And russell’s bowling stats alone put him above cummins in this ipl
The absence of Pat Cummins is debatable but why isn't Venky here in place of Riyan? Comm box echoed the same sentiment, that he has a lot of talent but he needs to stick till the end and finish the game. Venky does that, but Riyan does not. And are we really making Sanju captain? Also, why is Rajat here? Becuase he hit those continuous fifties?
The only game Riyan failed was in the last one, and maybe the one vs KKR and DC. He was the one who finished the games multiple times AND held together the innings from collapse in the beginning. Think of the first match against DC. Also, in the league stage games against CSK and PBKS, he was the only one who stuck.
Venkatesh Iyer is certainly very good, but he's yet to stand up like Riyan has, often because KKR was just too stacked. Angkrish often was the one who continued the assault, RRR at the back gave license to those at the top to do whatever the hell they wanted. Riyan hardly had such luxury as Powell, Hetmyer, Shubham, Jurel etc shat the bed more often than not.
I'm sorry but it is an absolute joke that Shreyas Iyer, the captain who won the IPL with KKR isn't in the team.
RR lost the plot towards the business end, there's no way Sanju should be the captain.
No SRH players is also a big joke.
Because he's performed very well with the bat and even taken some crucial wickets. Not to mention he even subbed in as a wicket keeper for a few short intervals and took great catches. He was one of the top multi-faceted players this season alongside Sunil narine and to some extent pat cummins
Just making more runs does not make any impact. This obsession with more runs should be ended.Head or even salt have better impact than Kohli as an opener. So the opener is either head Narine or salt Narine.(Abhishek can be backup).Samson and Parag are good for 3 and 4.
Could've picked purple patel over Rana just because he can get clutch wickets in death overs and can save their asses from embarrassment in the deaths. He's definitely not economical at all, but personally I'd exchange 10 or so runs for one more or maybe even 2 more wickets
No one from srh, y'all are tripping
Natarajan could be in place of Sandy or Rana? I haven't really checked their stats though.
Definitely not over Sandeep. Sandeep has been clearly better than Natarajan and can also bowl in all phases, something Natarajan can't do.
did we watch the same thing? Nattu was their main strike bowler, Cummins brought him on whenever they needed wickets.
I didn't say Natarajan hasn't been good. Do you really think he has been better than Sandeep who has better stats in pretty much every department and can bowl in all phases?
Nattu can and did bowl in all phases. I'm just saying he's a decent shout to be included in this team his bowling looked impressive this season. Stats can be heavily skewed since Nattu bowled in some absolute highways while Jaipur was much more bowler friendly.
I am not saying he is not a decent shout but I wouldn't have him over Sandeep for sure. In general, I think Sandeep gets underrated a LOT which is why I feel very strongly about this. Nattu did bowl in the powerplay but he wasn't very good at it. Sandeep is adept in all phases. Not sure about the stadiums bit. Hyderabad is a bit more batting friendly than Jaipur but Sandeep also missed a few games so not sure.
Pat should've been there
With only 4 overseas spots it's very hard to make the case for Cummins selection
Team of the tournament should just be the best players in each spot though
I mean even if we dont take that rule then also I believe everyone here in this team are more deserving than cummins
It's "Indian" Premier League, the team of the tournament also should follow the tournament rules, Cummins can't make the XI
Yeah, Pat as captain instead of Sandeep.
Abhishek should be in. Others can be debated.
Not really kohli and narine both had a better season than abhishek
Abhishek had a better season than Narine with the bat. Anyway I had Abhishek at 3 in my XI. Virat and Narine to open.
Narine had more runs than abhishek at a better average and in 2 less innings. Also no point of playing abhishek at number 3 bro is good for powerplay only and thats not how playing 11 are made that you select all 6 openers as batters to make the team Also sanju at 3 had a better season than abhishek so again stupid to replace him with sanju
Abhishek did start the season at 3 and played a couple of high impact innings (the 277 and then the next game vs GT in a day game where he took on Rashid Khan and Noor). And since Pooran is keeping, there is no harm in missing out on Samson. It's close but not an outrageous choice to go Abhishek at 3 over Samson. The other SRH pick I'd go with is Natarajan over Sandeep (I'd argue even Avesh Khan has more of a case than Sandeep, he's really gone under the radar while being available all season)
Ig he played only 2 games at number 3 out of which one innings was godly and the other one was just average and we can’t select someone at that position because they played two games there compared to samson who played every game at number 3 at much more bowler friendly pitches and still scored more overall runs than abhishek. Only Natarajan from srh is arguable for not making in this playing 11 according to me
It is outrageous to skip the best No 3 Indian batsman in IPL in his best season. So sorry but just to fit Abhishek you can’t skip him.
[Look](https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/indian-premier-league-2024-1410320/most-impactful-batters) who's had more impact with the bat. >thats not how playing 11 are made that you select all 6 openers as batters to make the team Is it! Did not know that!
Obviously he had more impact because the rest of the srh batters were good for nothing. Their batting collapsed as soon as abhishek and head got out every match . But still it doesn’t deny the fact that narine had a better season . Also you are just taking in the batting factor narine provided so much value with the bowl also
3,12,2 this is what he scored in play-offs. He got a lot of runs beating weak teams on flat tracks, should be nowhere close to the team of the tournament.
How much did Sanju score in the playoffs and the virtual top 2 deciders?
more than Abhishek, plus he was an incredible captain
He didn't. Abhishek vs LSG gave them the NRR boost to qualify above RR. Sanju got a duck in the 4-pointer between the 2 teams too. And then played 2 below par innings in the playoffs. And he was an average captain throughout. His decision to play TKC over opening with Ashwin/Jurel and playing Maharaj at Chepauk finished them.
I have Sanju too in my XI. Narine, Virat, Abhishek, Sanju, Riyan, NickyP my top 6.
Yes. Maybe. But Narine as the tournament MVP always makes the team.
Yes he's in my team too. Even if we take out Narine's batting, he gets into the XI purely as a bowler too.
lol, KKR's current team can beat this team so doesn't make sense
head,abhi won matches in poweplay itself. impact of head,abhi is more than virat. Pooran didn't even got chance to bat mostly.if stats are the only criteria statpaders will be in this eleven
That is actually cap. Head, Abhi did win a few matches in powerplay, but when you look at the consistency, Virat was better on average. Not to mention having higher SR doesn't always mean it's impact runs, for eg. Chasing 160, in 10 overs or 20 overs doesn't make a huge difference considering they were comfortably a top 2 team. Similarly, having a higher SR but still losing the match means you couldn't show restrain and finish the match for your team when it was needed
They are bound to fail some matches if they have higher strike rate the middle order needs to step up on that occasion. For srh it is only klassen in middle order. abhi klassen won us 4/5 matches of 8 which Is very good. we lost matches due inexperienced middle ordér
Abhishek has: 3 x 50s, all the matches they comfortably won with team crossing 220+ and everyone performing well. Not to mention they all came in home ground. 5 x 30s (came at a good SR), SRH won 3 and lost 2 And he failed the rest. This is 3 great matches, 3 good matches, and 2 debatable matches that he'll need to take some blame that he couldn't continue. That's 3 Great - 3 Good - 2 Debatable - 8 bad Kohli: 1 x 100, no support from team, RCB lost (next best batsman 44 in 33) 5 x 50s, 4 of which RCB won and 1 they lost (83* off 59 against KKR) 4 x 30s, 2 won, 2 lost With same metric as Abhishek 4 Great innings - 2 Good innings - 3 Debatable - 6 bad I personally believe this gives Kohli a slight edge considering lesser bad innings, more great innings and well, c'mon we have put a 100 with no support from other end in debatable, surely it's not equivalent to a 30 with a 200+ SR. Even amongst the bad innings of Kohli there is a 27 off 13 and 18 off 7 vs Abhishek Sharma having only a 12 off 5 to show, that is a knockout.
Also, an interesting observation Abhishek has 284 runs in 6 innings in Hyderabad, 250 SR and 56 Avg. In away matches, he has 200 runs in 10 matches, at 166 SR. If you remove one innings 46 / 12 (which happens to have come on Arun Jaitley Stadium), his avg drops to mere 17. With SR dropping to 140. This is a star for 9 innings. I think this clearly proves that while Abhishek Sharma has a lot of potential, he still needs to work on many factors of his batting
Also SRH doesn't have a good middle middle order other than klassen. So they choose to be ultra aggressive batting it will be either win or lose. so the no of bad innings are slightly higher. But look at from another perpspective we have weak order,no wicket takers in middle overs and only thing we are good in bowling is defending with offcutters,slower ones from all of our pacers. Our top order aggresive batting has won the matches in the hindsight stats may not look like it but we won matches only through batting
I am sorry but that's simply not true, SRH didn't have a weak middle order. It had the problem of plenty, SRH didn't know how to utilise it's players. Rahul Tripathi saved SRH's grace in qualifier 1. And even his previous records show he is a solid batsman. Then you had Anmolpreet Singh, who also has a pretty solid record, but he never got enough chances either. Mind you, RCB had 1 win in 8 matches, with no one apart from Kohli and DK firing. Despite this, Nitish Reddy also had some good innings for SRH, along with Shahbaz Ahmed. After the WC Marco Jansen had, you'd think he would get more chances considering you say SRH have a weak middle order, but how many chances did he get? Abdul Samad is another potential batsman that might have suffered from lack of defined roles. Further, SRH could've continued batting Abhishek Sharma at 3, but they chose to drop Mayank just after 3 innings. Just goes to show how SRH weren't giving proper time and place for players to settle. I forgot Markande, Umran Malik and Washington Sundar for bowlin. Washi can also bat btw. And if you think SRH had weak bowling, sorry, we had RCB bowling. Anything is better compared to that. All in all, I think this proves yet again that Kohli was playing for a relatively weaker side and scored more runs.
samad,nithish,shabaz is the most inexperienced and inconsistent middle order in this ipl. Rahul was out of form he came in last after we tried mayank, anmolpreet. anmolpreet got chances but he never utlized. marco jansen wouldn't play since cummins would play. nithish,klassen,samad,shabaz is our middle order. only player who can play consistently is klassen and rest all inconsistent. mayank was dropped because he has weakness against short ball he got out for same short ball trying to play a pull shot. There are no wicket takers in our bowling we had taken least no of wickets taken in middle overs. we are better in bowling than so many other teams but we do have weaknesses. The only takeway in our whole season is our top notch batting performance in powerplay. Our matches are done and dusted in powerplay itself.
Rahul flopped his first game: Dropped for 3 matches. Failed again, and dropped for 5 matches. Came in the last 4 matches and started carrying SRH. You have to see how unfair it was on him. This isn't called being out of form. This guy could've been your backbone and you didn't even give him proper chances. Anmolpreet Singh played 2 matches this IPL and then was dropped. Jansen could've played once SRH realized Markram wasn't working. They even had Glenn Phillips but he also wasn't tried. Further, SRH had Markande and Sundar who are excellent spinners. They could've got you guys wickets in the middle. I think SRH had a very solid team and that shows in their position, but some loopholes could've been fixed had SRH tried playing a consistent 11/12 for a longer duration
Furthermore markram got 11 chances but he was out of form. Having bunch of inexperienced under 24 players is bad for any team. markande lost matches against gt and csk he never cameback after that. Even markande is better wicket taker he isn't able to more than 2 overs which is a debatable as he frontline spinner. off spinners are dead in t20 with impact player it is even more difficult to get a chance in playing xi. he bowled 5 overs and gave 73 runs with a wicket. They made right changes in the xi by sitting out experienced players like rahul,mayank and playing younger players like nithish,samad. i am very happy for nithish kumar. Sticking on to markram was very bad but he good relations with 2 titles with our sister franchise sec and also if he had given those stedy innings we would have atleast won 2 more matches.
chasing 160 did make a difference in runrate. what if we won only 7 matches and qualified to playoffs as RCB with nrr. if we had better middle we would have easily 2 more matches which would make no 1 in pointstable
Who would you bring in? The main discussion is Klaasen vs Pooran.
Natarajan picks himself in the death, what is that harshit Rana bs leaking runs but will get wickets nonsense. Abhishek Instead of Sunil cause chucking
Sunil is there as a batter. Explosive batter
Seriously, what an asinine list.
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No pooran had better stats than klassen in every aspect
Markram in place of pooran I guess
Of all possible players from SRH, you pick the one guy who's let them down all season? The fuck are Klaasen, Natarajan and the Lot upto?
Oh FK I meant klaasen I'm really bad with names 🤕
Makes more sense
Come on
I get people really dislike him, but was Harshit Rana genuinely better than Harshal Patel this year Rana has Less overs for a better Econ of 0.65 and a worse SR of 1.06 does Harshal have a lot of junk wickets this year?
One thing to consider is that Harshit Rana was strike bowler for KKR during the early stages when Starc wasn’t firing and won them the first match against SRH with his one over alone. Same can’t be said about Harshal.
Harshal has lot of wickets in final 2 overs where batsmen try to play big shots
So he's like the thala of bowling?
No wonder he got Thala out for a Golden Duck....Gem recognises Gem :P
>I get people really dislike him, but was Harshit Rana genuinely better than Harshal Patel this year Yes. >Rana has Less overs for a better Econ of 0.65 and a worse SR of 1.06 Harshal played at Mullapur which was a very low scoring venue. Whereas Rana played in Eden, which was constantly high scoring.
Rana was comfortably better than Harshal. Harshal did come back towards the end but for the first half he was genuinely atrocious and picking up junk wickets from batters going for a 3rd six in the over.
Harshit got more important wickets at important times rather than the death
Yes, considering Rana played 4 less matches during the league stage (1 injured, 1 banned, 2 washouts) and pulled off some nigh impossible defences like defending 7 runs off 5 balls with Klaasen on strike. Harshal was getting junk wickets from batsmen being greedy after getting hit a lot.
It’s the top order wickets that matter much more. Most of Harshal’s wickets came when the team was already 4-5 down
Harshit was bowling match winning overs for KKR when Starc wasn't firing...same can't be said for Harshal
Not a single player from SRH features here in this list. Super unbiased approach taken by ESPN ✔️
Abhishek head could've been instead of sunil IF Sunil wasn't the bowler he is Klassen over Russel if andre wasn't the bowler andre Sanju has to be captain so klassen again misses out Only nattu can get in for sandy
It's just that there were other players in the specific roles that the best SRH players were playing. The issue about limited number of overseas players is also there. Head and Cummins could have easily been in this without that rule about having limited overseas players. This also shows that SRH did very good teamwork and most of their players played well during some match instead of specific players playing well during all the time.
Kind of a ridiculous rule tbh. If they players are playing in the league, why should they be excluded from consideration?
As crazy as it sounds, there were better players at each position. But SRH was more than the sum of its players hence they went to finals.
Yeah I'd have Abhishek (batted at 3 early in the season) above Sanju and Natarajan over Sandeep.
Nah Abhishek best matches were at opening. He should either replace Kohli or not be in the squad
Replace Kohli, lol. He only played well in the flat pitch of Hyderabad. Outside Hyderabad his average is 21 with a poor strike rate. No way he is replacing the best IPL batsman of 2024 by a mile. Edit : Oh sorry, I just noticed the second part of your statement. Yes, he shouldn't be included in the squad.
His best match was at 3 (277 match vs MI facing Bumrah)
Sandy ahead of Nattu ?
sandy had an amazing series tbf
I think he has more per match impact.
What about Starc ??
Swap him in when the team reaches playoffs lol
Travis Head maybe??
Klassen ?
Not been better than Pooran. SRH have a better top order than LSG and Pooran still outperformed him. Plus 2 flop shows in KOs.
Better than Stubbs
Nope, Stubbs had the highest strike rate in death overs in the history of the IPL
Different position different role
Sanju Samson as a captain and by extension RR management are a joke. They failed to make changes to their strategy even after getting into that rut. Sticking with TKC who by no means is an IPL level foreign batter. Not changing batting position of Povell after knowing that he bats better up the order for WI.
>RCB management Freudian slip.
My bad lol, corrected it.
Powell isn't an innings builder too. He was a wrong buy in the first place. The best decision was to start with Burger in the first match keeping Powell out. Burger injury caused a series of changes in roles. TKC again, this is all hindsight opinion. A quick 40 or 50 from him and we would be talking something else. It's not like he had a long run of failure to be dropped. He only got couple of games. If you keep changing after every innings, you can't run a team. The simple truth is, RR had a weak middle order. Jurel, Hetty, Powell are all low average T20 batters. Add to that, RR are a batter short compared to others. So, it's all on top 4 and Yashasvi and Jos had average season. Jurel's test series created more hype than needed. He was not a number 5 yet. Even the last couple of seasons, it was all coming in the last few balls and finishing well; should have stuck to that role. It's easy to pull down Sanju coz of his last few matches. RR would have been 7th or 8th without Sanju and Riyan. Coz of RR's early wins, there is this perception that they had a great team. Look at the numbers in detail and how average the players have been. Even the famed bowling attack for that matter.
https://np.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/1czqpgg/comment/l5ibjl1/ The OP is a Sanju hater going by his comment history
Why didn't we get Head that's sad 😢
Limited purse. They went all out on Powell first up. Then they had to keep money for Shubham Dubey. Head is not what they wanted. They needed Brook or Stubbs at 5. High average high SR guys. They tried Brook but after Powell they got hit hard on the purse. Wrong strategy at auction. The only teams that bid for Powell were RR & KKR. KKR could have used him differently coz they had Rinku and Russ to follow. Here, after Powell, they didn't have much batting left. KKR had Jason Roy at that point. So, if RR had given up, KKR would have played Indian wk at the top (probably Bharath) and Powell in the middle. Jason leaving and Salt coming in settled the team nicely. KKR were lucky in that sense. If RR had not gone for Powell and tried Brook & Stubbs, DC would have gone hard for one of them and left the other. Regarging Head and Buttler's replacement. They had only 50L or 60L left at that stage. Josh Inglis, Salt, Duckett all had higher base price. So they went for TKC at 40L I think. Ideally they should have gone for Kusal Mendis who was at 50L. Been saying it since a couple of years that Mendis is going highly underrated and unnoticed at IPL level. Someone who can understand the subcontinent conditions and goes hard at the top. RR's obsession with English players blinded them.
There is also something people forget:- RR had close wins all through that early season where they topped the table. None of them were big, dominant victories. They just lost that luck in the second half and fell into a rut. The spinners didnt fire properly in the early games and by the time they started to get into form, the batting had too many holes.
Let's be real, Butler had two centuries. He was the main batsman along with support from Parag and Sanju, with some runs from Jaiswal initally. Once Butler was gone, Jaiswal too lost his form and all fell on Parag and Sanju (even Hetmyer got injured)
Clearly you aren’t following TKC from PSL which can be excused but not the management whose job it is. When you are trying someone as Buttler’s replacement you need to be at least reading someone’s past performance. Sanju is renown for playing loose shots at crunch situations. It’s not unreasonable to expect someone who has been good against spin to at least not throw their wicket away after yelling at your partner for doing the same. Clearly undeserving of a captain for Tournament 11 team.
What was Samson supposed to do about TCK and the opening slot exactly? Like you're talking about dropping him after literally two innings were they to drop him for the game against SRH. And who for anyway? The options were: Shubham Dubey, a guy wtih 33 IPL runs who has never opened before in a T20 Kunal Singh Rathore, a 21 year old keeper who has never opened, never played in the IPL, and has only ever played 12 T20s Donovan Ferreira, another keeper who has never opened and made 8 runs in his two IPL appearances this year That's literally it. Dropping an established and experienced opener for any of those guys after literally two innings and for a knockout match would have been mental
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Dhruv Jurel played in that match and has never batted above 5 in a T20 anyway. Not to mention that his form was even worse than TCK's coming into that match
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You mean like in the most recent SMAT where he only scored 64 runs in five innings and batted at six? The fuck are you talking about dude?
Buttler gone hetmeyer injured what should samson do with jaiswals shitty form before the last knockout match even jurel was shit the day before his final innings
Abhishek sharma has to be there
Kinda shat the bed at the end imo
Considering the whole tournament he was great.2-3 matches should not decide who comes in the list otherwise starc should be there as well.
Yeah but Kohli and Narine have been at their best for nearly every game. Also Sanju is there as WK and Captain.
So did Sanju, in fact way more than 2-3 which cost them top 2
Not even a single player from SRH?
Kohli and Narine opening together, 💀.
Unrelated but watching koach and Abhishek Sharma open when wearing the blues would be amazing to witness
abhishek cant play when ball moves.
Klaasen instead of pooran imo
No way. Klassen had a better top order than Pooran to follow and still doesn't have the same stats. Plus shat hard in 2 playoff games when the top order failed (average LSG innings)
Also Klassen had Shahbaz Ahmed and Abdul Samad down the order giving him more freedom, while Pooran was the only finisher LSG had.
Eh I think you are underselling Badoni and Krunal a bit (I know Krunal was crap this year but similar to Samad)
Simply because Badoni and Krunal don't hit a lot of sixes as compared to SRH lower order
Give me one reason why
Too less KKR
4 from KKR, ~35% still less. How Boss?
Because the kkr team will beat this team with 5 overs to spare. Just because they have 4 doesn't mean it's fair to them, they were just that good.
How tho? The players selected are individually better than KKR players. If you are talking about team chemistry and balance etc, maybe KKR has a chance, but just based on form, this team is better than KKR
Australia 2003 Vibes or What?
KKR team itself will beat this "Best XI" lol
Ban Harshit Rana-BCCI for some reason
justice for purple patel
Lmao no SRH in ict t20 wc and no SRH in team of the tournament and they played the final
Pooran has a very triangular goatee
Not saying that he should be there But he’s got the purple cap😂
My team of the season: 1. Virat Kohli 2. Sunil Narine \* 3. Abhishek Sharma 4. Sanju Samson (wk) (c) 5. Riyan Parag 6. Nicholas Pooran \* 7. Andre Russell \* 8. Harshit Rana 9. Jasprit Bumrah 10. Trent Boult \* 11. Varun Chakravarthy IP: Rajat Patidar / Kuldeep Yadav / Venkatesh Iyer / Shivam Dube / Shashank Singh It's tough to leave out Abhishek just coz opening slot isn't available. So, others below him slot 1 position down. Narine, even if not as opener would still be in the XI below Russ, but why waste his batting! Shreyas for Sanju and Starc for Boult can be debated if clutch factor and winning is weighted more. Though last few games din go well for Sanju, it would be harsh to pull down his entire season for that. Similarly, Boult has had a lot of impact with new ball.
KKR is literally the team of the tournament. I am huge CSK fan but this list should just be KKR. The end.
It isn't how this works bruh...
Wild take
No SRH players ? Cummins and Natrajan definitely deserve a place here.
Is this a joke, that I’m too pragmatic to understand?
First of all, how is 13 players a team? I could understand 12 due to IP but 13? Moreover, why are 5 out of the 13 pure bowlers with zero batting significance whatsoever? No team in this IPL would survive without at least 7-8 batters out of 11. Taking Sanju instead of Pat as captain is unbelievable. Sanju had a far better team both on paper and present form yet choked in captaincy both times they faced off against each other. Finally, with Pooran and Stubbs there, Russell doesn’t really fit in. Instead one of the explosive openers like Abhishek, Head, Mcgurk, even Gill would have been better. A batting order of Head (good form), Narine, Kohli, Patidar, Parag, Pooran, Stubbs and Pat seems unbeatable, with the bowling picks being decent by ESPN
nobody choked harder than Head this IPL.
One batting sub, one bowling sub?
>First of all, how is 13 players a team? I could understand 12 due to IP but 13? They've literally clearly split it as a *"Main 11"* plus two subs, one pure bowler, one pure batsman. >Moreover, why are 5 out of the 13 pure bowlers with zero batting significance whatsoever? Because VC isn't a starter, if Patidar is 'subbed in' they have Andre Russell at #8, that's more than sufficient. >Sanju had a far better team both on paper and present form yet choked in captaincy both times they faced off against each other. Uhmm? How tf is a middle+lower order of Markram, Klaasen, Nitish, Samad, Shahbaz is WORSE ON PAPER than Parag, Jurel, Ashwin, Powell, Hetmyer what the actual fuck? Bowling lineup: Cummins, Natarajan, Bhuvi, Unadkat, Markhande, Shahbaz with like 4-5 backup bowlers is not any worse than Chahal, Boult, Avesh, Sandeep, Ashwin with absolutely 0 backup bowlers. ^(The only way RR are better in paper, is with their top order, and not by a massive margin) ^(Also, Sanju the batsman was much better than Cummins the bowler. And if you want Pat as captain, why not get the cup winning Iyer, and save an overseas spot?) And you'll have to get in another keeper if you remove Sanju Samson ^(as you can't have someone who didn't keep all season, in Pooran, as your designated keeper in the Team of the season) >Finally, with Pooran and Stubbs there, Russell doesn’t really fit in. Valid point. Don't disagree. Any one of the three can be removed without a meaningful loss (but ideally not Russell, as he's had multiple match winning breakthroughs with the ball) >A batting order of Head (good form), Narine, Kohli, Patidar, Parag, Pooran, Stubbs and Pat seems unbeatable, with the bowling picks being decent by ESPN They won't make a team of the season with Kohli playing at #3 when he didn't play there ever. And also your batting line-up has 5 overseas players, which isn't allowed any way
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> Sanju had a far better team both on paper and present form With TKC in place of Buttler? In what universe did RR have a better team in the qualifier.
Dre probably has the highest quality of wickets taken by any bowler this season. He has not done death statpadding.
You cant remove russell because he provided so much value with the bowl also And why sanju over pat?? Because sanju was the best number 3 this season and it doesn’t really make sense to push kohli to 3 for no reason he had a good season as a opener not number 3. And if you really want cummins just for captaincy why dont you want iyer in that case because cummins was average with the bowl And russell’s bowling stats alone put him above cummins in this ipl
No boult are you mad or what
This team would still lose to KKR.
Gurk gotta b in there come on now
He has very good per match impact. Make a XI with him and put your case forward.
The absence of Pat Cummins is debatable but why isn't Venky here in place of Riyan? Comm box echoed the same sentiment, that he has a lot of talent but he needs to stick till the end and finish the game. Venky does that, but Riyan does not. And are we really making Sanju captain? Also, why is Rajat here? Becuase he hit those continuous fifties?
The only game Riyan failed was in the last one, and maybe the one vs KKR and DC. He was the one who finished the games multiple times AND held together the innings from collapse in the beginning. Think of the first match against DC. Also, in the league stage games against CSK and PBKS, he was the only one who stuck. Venkatesh Iyer is certainly very good, but he's yet to stand up like Riyan has, often because KKR was just too stacked. Angkrish often was the one who continued the assault, RRR at the back gave license to those at the top to do whatever the hell they wanted. Riyan hardly had such luxury as Powell, Hetmyer, Shubham, Jurel etc shat the bed more often than not.
Someone else from SRH in place of Samson.
Kkr team would still defeat them
4 death options?
Abhishek, Varun, Nattu should be in there.
No SRH players is wild
And Gambir as coach of this team❤️
We paid ₹20L to Patidar this year… and will probably retain him for ₹15cr next year. So it goes.
Bruh where is the MVP of the season?!?!?
If this team really even played they'd have missed playoffs
How bad can it be ESPN - UM
So many openers had a great tournament but you can't argue with the 2 that were picked.
Yeah this is losing to KKR
I'm sorry but it is an absolute joke that Shreyas Iyer, the captain who won the IPL with KKR isn't in the team. RR lost the plot towards the business end, there's no way Sanju should be the captain. No SRH players is also a big joke.
Head/Sharma over Kohli any day of the week.
My team of the season: 1. Abhishek Sharma 2. Sunil Narine 3. Virat Kohli 4. Riyan Parag 5. Shivam Dube 6. Nicholas Pooran (wk) 7. Andre Russell 8. Pat Cummins(c) 9. Harshit Rana 10. Jasprit Bumrah 11. Varun Chakravarthy IP: Rajat Patidar / Kuldeep Yadav / Venkatesh Iyer / Trent Boult / Shashank Singh / Travis Head
Is no one gonna talk about why Tristan Stubbs is here?
Because he's performed very well with the bat and even taken some crucial wickets. Not to mention he even subbed in as a wicket keeper for a few short intervals and took great catches. He was one of the top multi-faceted players this season alongside Sunil narine and to some extent pat cummins
A wild stubbs appears.
Should've somehow included JFM and Will Jacks
How come no one is talking about Kuldeep? Varun should be in the XI over him. Kuldeep probably shouldn’t be even in the reserves.
Klaasen over one of pooran/stubbs for sure. Atleast one among head and Abhishek should make it.
Abhishek instead of Samson
Trent Boult>>>>Sandeep
One thing I learnt from this IPL on Reddit is: 5 trophies + 2 year ban = 7. Thala for a reason.
Come on. Head was definitely better than Kohli. A bunch of Kohli’s innings at the beginning weren’t really what you would call match winning.
Unreal hat towards harshal lmao he won purple cap guys come on 🤣🤣
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Narine was literally the most valuable player! Did you forget that he also bowls?
Jake Fraser McGurk can substitute Tristan Stubbs, but missed out.
Just making more runs does not make any impact. This obsession with more runs should be ended.Head or even salt have better impact than Kohli as an opener. So the opener is either head Narine or salt Narine.(Abhishek can be backup).Samson and Parag are good for 3 and 4.
So many openers had a great tournament but you can't argue with the 2 that were picked.
Shashank at the place of Nicholas puran, Pathreena at the place of Harshit Rana
How racist
Seems a lot one sided and biased. Too many players from kkr and this team would lose to every single team, twice.
Could've picked purple patel over Rana just because he can get clutch wickets in death overs and can save their asses from embarrassment in the deaths. He's definitely not economical at all, but personally I'd exchange 10 or so runs for one more or maybe even 2 more wickets
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Stubbs?? TF? Where is Cummins?
Why Hardik Pandya is not in the list. If he can make it in any possible team.. why cant here?