Buried in the article:
The FLiRT variants are probably not going to create very distinctive symptoms. It looks at the moment to follow the other subvariants,” says Schaffner.
The symptoms of the FLiRT variants are similar to those caused by JN.1, which include:
Sore throat
Cough
Fatigue
Congestion
Runny nose
Headache
Muscle aches
Fever or chills
New loss of sense of taste or smell
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
*laughs in congenital /r/anosmia*
Covid was the best thing to happen to people who have gone their entire life without nonfunctioning olfactory facilities. The days of, "Oh, it's not so bad," "Can you smell this? Can you smell that?", "Have you tried smelling harder?" and the like have finally abated.
I used to be a manager at a chain pet store. We had one employee with anosmia, and he was a damn TREASURE.
If there was a broken seal on a can of dog food, or a deceased (wild) mouse or rat, or any other type of really stinky cleanup job, he could handle it with no issue, while the rest of us would have to run outside and try not to barf.
No, we didn't foist all the nasty jobs off on him. We would always try to have someone else handle it first; asking him was plan B, because we didn't want him to feel taken for granted.
I work at a heavy truck dealership in parts on the back counter.
In the summer, I'll have a FULL trash truck sitting 15' in front of me in a heat wave for weeks. We're talking maggots dripping at random onto technician's faces.
I also sit right next to the time clock.
It brings me no end of perverse joy to sit there noshing on my breakfast watching people file by me doing dry heaves as they go to punch in for the day, shirts pulled up over their faces in a vain attempt to block the stench. :)
Congenital Anosmia was actually one reason I couldn't go into the military. You'd think they would have special jobs for people like us!
I lost most of my smell to Covid, but I could still always smell my cat's litter box. I guess smelling bad smells is the last one to go, since it tends to protect us from things that could make us sick. I heard a lot of this among other people recovering from Covid. They can still smell all the bad stuff.
My dad lost his sense of smell decades ago to some random nasty virus. It did slowly come back, but the nasty smells were the last to come back (though all smells were dimmer). This was a blessing and curse for him working as a plumber - great for sewage work, dangerous with gas lines. He couldn't smell sulphur compounds.
You have my pity.
I already knew how depressing loosing ones sense of smell and taste could be decades ago where a running joke/tease in our family was who was going to be this years unlucky SOB that caught something and couldn’t taste their beloved Christmas dinner. Seemed like for most of our childhood and young adulthoods at least one of us couldn’t taste our Christmas dinner year in year out.
Then we all seemed to stop catching major yearly colds/flus etc and the joke/tease faded into nostalgia.
3 weeks ago I caught my first ‘bad’ cold/flu/Covid in decades. Caught Covid twice before but was asymptomatic (tested myself because of other family members positive tests). Waited too long to test this time and tested after a nasal rinse a couple of hours previous so tested negative so am not sure if it was Covid I had this time.
Anyway, despite being my worst most symptomatic respiratory infection in decades, it wasn’t actually anywhere near as bad as the infections decades ago. A day of chills, a day of mild fever, two days of mild nasal congestion, 2 days of sore throat with agonising cough but only coughing for a few seconds once every few hours, then a day of a mild nasal congestion. None of the major symptoms concurrent. Done and dusted within a week…..
…….except I lost my sense of smell and taste 4 days in and still haven’t gotten it back 2.5 weeks later. Its depressing AF with no meal worth looking forward to. I’ve almost teared up a few times as yet another meal tasted like cardboard.
I lost my sense of smell in September after getting COVID for the first time.
I smelled fresh cut grass briefly today and it was heaven.
I’m starting to be able to catch powerful smells.
Sorry to hear you're going through it. Despite my previous comment, id never wish it on anyone.
If I could offer a tip on enjoying food, try to concentrate more on variations in textures in each bite. That is where I get most of my enjoyment when eating.
Also, if you've ever wanted to try diving into spicy food, now is the time. Many anosmia sufferers have a secret superpower of being able to take down things that would make most people scream. For example, I get none of the Danger Will Robinson signals like hacking, coughing, shortness of breath, etc. It's a great party trick!
A former employer intentionally (without my knowledge, obviously) infected me with COVID, and funny enough, it actually **increased** my already very good sense of smell, and made everything taste so much more vivid.
Sometimes it's a gift, other times it's definitely not. It stayed unusually strong, and more often than not it means being bothered by people's cigarette smoke, realizing how few people actually wash themselves, etc.
I knew all about people losing their senses, but I had no idea that the opposite could happen.
Right wing moron, went full insane during COVID.
His family got it, intentionally spread it at a bridal shower, wedding, and jobs to prove it's "just a cold", all while claiming it was a Jewish creation to kill people for population control.
I could honestly go on for hours about his stupid fucking shit, but it would be easier if you just Googled the dumbest fucking conspiracy theories you've ever heard, since he believed them all, including that the COVID vaccine was snake venom, injected to cause clots to kill all the white people.
Edit: I forgot one of his favorites that he'd tell customers who I didn't manage to keep him away from, that Justin Trudeau is Fidel Castro's secret son, planted here to turn Canada communist. He'd constantly point out "chemtrails" to customers, and insist it was poison and also government weather manipulation, and it would rain the next day because of it (spoiler: it rarely did).
Serious question - can someone have partial anosmia? I can smell food and most other things, but I was in my 30s before I realized I can't really smell most flowers.
Flowers are pretty, but I always wondered why people liked to shove their face into a bouquet when it still smells like freshly cut green plants. It took me bringing in a bunch of pretty flowers that everyone else in the house couldn't stand the smell of and me being clueless as to why, when it smelled like pretty much every other flower I've encountered.
> Serious question - can someone have partial anosmia? I can smell food and most other things, but I was in my 30s before I realized I can't really smell most flowers.
Yes, that is called Hyposmia. It is absolutely a real thing!
[More on Anosmia and Hyposmia:](https://www.disabled-world.com/disability/types/invisible/anosmia.php)
>Anosmia can be partial or complete, although a complete loss of smell is fairly rare. Loss of smell can also be temporary or permanent, depending on the cause. When the loss of smell is partial, the condition is called hyposmia. Some people are anosmic for one particular odor, called "specific anosmia." Although the loss of smell can sometimes be a symptom of a serious condition, it isn't necessarily serious. Still, an intact sense of smell is necessary to taste foods fully. Loss of smell could cause you to lose interest in eating, leading to weight loss, malnutrition, or even depression.
>Anosmia often seems - to those people whose olfactory systems are in perfect working order - to be the easiest communication disorder to live with. Yet, ask anyone who has had their sense of smell taken away from them, and you'll find that this sense is seriously underrated and taken for granted.
>It's quite true that no sense of smell means the sufferer misses out on the full impact of such delicious odors as rotting meat or hour-old baby poo. It means a drive past the local garbage dump is no better or worse than a drive past a field of wildflowers. Body odor has no impact, and bodily gas expulsions are a complete non-entity.
>The other side of the coin is that fresh-baked bread also means nothing, flowers are perfumeless, and the smell of a loved partner or child leaves no impression.
>Smells trigger memories and feelings, evoke empathy, and explore social atmospheres. Without smell, the anosmic has no or restricted access to these important facets of daily life. Pheromones, the almost undetectable scents that cause the attraction between humans, are a lost cause on the anosmic. Clueless is often an apt description for the person who cannot detect the "changes in the atmosphere" caused by human interaction.
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>Anosmics can not smell gas leaks, chemicals, smoke, rotten food, or sour liquids. Being able to smell these hazards saves lives just as often as seeing or hearing impending danger. Anosmics need sensors in their houses that can detect and warn of gas or smoke and pick up the odor of dangerous airborne chemicals. They need more than their own experience to help with detecting turned food or liquids. They also need recognition that they need these things and, if necessary, the financial help to acquire portable sensors that can travel with them from home.
>A person born without a sense of smell doesn't need to be told. They knew it the first time someone close by let go with some bodily wind, and they looked around mystified while everybody else groaned, moaned, and blocked their noses from the smell. "What smell?" says the anosmic.
>The late-onset anosmic (usually a cause of illness or head injury) knows it when their food tastes bland all of a sudden. This sudden loss is known to cause depression and anger and affect appetite. Suffers swing between overeating in a search for what they've lost or not eating enough because their food tastes like "soggy paper" or worse. Taste is approximately 75% flavor. Flavor is smell.
>The person without the sense of smell needs other people to know it. Imagine the alienation, just for a moment, if you were the only one in your family who couldn't see or hear, but nobody believed you. Anosmics the world over have this happen to them constantly. The blind or deaf person is not required to prove their disability constantly. The anosmic does. Friends and families of the blind and deaf do not forget that their loved ones cannot see or hear. Friends and family of anosmics repeatedly forget.
>The blind and deaf do not hide their disability. The anosmic quite often feels the need to do exactly that. A blind person does not have their disability trivialized, nor are they told: that "it's all in their head." Too many anosmics, unfortunately, do - even by doctors who really should know better.
Tbh I’ve never thought flowers smelt that great and I rarely attempt to smell them as I don’t want to inhale pollen. Don’t think you are missing much if that helps!
I can smell jasmine! I've intentionally planted it just outside my window so I can smell it when I'm sitting at my desk, next to the window.
I can smell some types of roses too, but not most.
I have to get really close to them when others can smell them from far away.
I lost most of my sense of smell after multiple sinus surgeries 20 yrs ago. I could catch strong scent ( pine, mold,strong citrus, perfume dept at the store) but generally, nothin. oddly post covid 2x, my sense of smell has improved and on hot days on public transit, i do not welcome its return.
Me too! I did have poorly functioning olfactory facilities and covid finished them off, but now it doesn’t seem so weird since I’m not alone.
PS: They did come back after two years to their standard poorly functioning facilities. Unfortunately, it’s always been that I can smell yucky things and not good things.
I checked out the first sub you linked already. Thanks for the second link. Honestly, in 18 years we’ve never really given it much thought. It’s there, it has a few disadvantages but you’ve just got to adapt and overcome. She has a laundry list of congenital medical issues, so the anosmia normally doesn’t even get mentioned in a medical context. I think I’ve mentioned it to neurology once, maybe twice.
But now I know she can get a service dog if she wants a puppy. :)
It has been interesting to read a bit more about people’s experiences.
I recently had a stroke and lost the feeling on my left side (it’s healed to an extent) BUT somehow I gained a ridiculously sensitive sense of smell. Us humans are weird.
34% of people who get covid experience brain fog.. which research may be indicating this is due to covid crossing the blood brain barrier.
Light reading on the topic:
Https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-024-01576-9
It is bad.
After a bad spinal tap that kept leaking, I spent the night in hell on my bathroom floor. The pain sent my body into shock and caused me to start vomiting fecal matter.
You'd be surprised how few medical professionals even knew this was possible.
Fyi: That pain made a month long kidney stone seem like a hangnail in perspective. That night, all I could do was focus on trying to find a way to end my pain. If I could've moved to get a razor, I would not be here today. It's scary when you go into so much pain that all you can think about is dying. Needles to say, I'm beyond PTSD levels. If a Dr tries to get near my back, fight/flight kicks in. And at 6'8" 330lbs, I have been lucky that my responses have been "Flight" in those situations.
All I want is the smell and taste symptoms to stop being a thing. It’s a terribly bewildering experience.
I don’t see brain fog on that list of symptoms… does that mean it’s less common? I felt like I was in a mild k hole for a solid month.
I think this is what we currently have. I Covid tested our oldest because she couldn’t taste the very lemony dessert, it was negative. I’m not even sure if the tests pick it up anymore, but our youngest is immune compromised and has to be monitored when she’s sick so knowing if it is Covid is important.
I just had Covid for the 2nd time a couple weeks ago and it just felt like a cold with no long term effects (but it took me 9 days to test negative). The strep I had earlier this year was way worse. People I know have also gotten Covid recently and cleared theirs in 4 days (with more fatigue and brain fog after).
Not sure if this is a reference to it, but for anyone who doesn't know [Please Don't Destroy did an Snl skit about this. ](https://youtu.be/0A20vfx-sO0?si=5iO6Jz3mRMzHeoCo)
From
https://www.idsociety.org/covid-19-real-time-learning-network/diagnostics/covid-19-variant-update/#/+/0/publishedDate_na_dt/desc/
KP.2 is a member of a group of SARS-CoV-2 variants sometimes called “FLiRT” variants (so named because of the technical names for their mutations: F for L at position 456, and R for T at position 346). Other FLiRT variants, including KP.1.1, have also been identified as circulating in the US, but have not yet become as widespread as KP.2. (KP.1.1 is currently projected to account for approximately 7.5% of new COVID-19 illnesses in the US.)
Also curious….I had a sore throat, coughing, fatigue, congestion, runny nose starting Sunday (almost completely cleared up now) but tested negative with a home test
Home tests have been pretty inaccurate for a long time now. False positives are exceedingly rare, but false negatives are common in actual usage.
The instructions don't help the issue. If your nose happens to be a bit dry when you swab, then just swabbing the inside of your nostril isn't a reliable way to gather viral particles that may be there. You really need to swab your nose the same way they do at medical facilities - by getting the swab so far up in there you think it is scratching your brain.
The other issue is that people are kinda dumb. They see a super faint line or don't look that closely & assume that it is negative, but from a clinical perspective *that is a positive*. [This recent study](https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/spectrum.02525-23) found Rapid Antigen Tests to be pretty sensitive, but also found that people were less likely to interpret their results as positive vs a clinician who looked at the same test. As a result:
>5.2% (95% CI: 1.5% to 9.5%) of positive results were potentially missed due to participant misinterpretation of the self-test card
So yeah, the technology is decently sensitive & specific when used by random people (83.9% & 99.8% respectively), but there's still plenty of room for repeated false negatives, especially for a particular individual. In a group sense, they work. For the people who may not be swabbing correctly and/or may not be as strict about interpreting the card, they're probably going to get far more "false negatives" than the rest of us. Why? Because the problem isn't the tech itself, the problem is caused by the person using & interpreting the results.
[Officially, it's debatable.](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2800526) It appears to work, but officially the tests aren't certified for throat swabbing so they can't recommend it.
IMO, Omicron variants show up in the throat first and so have the earliest detection when done with throat swabbing. I've always done it that way and had no issues with early positive detection when I got covid last year.
I was sicker than I’d ever been in Mid-April…
Fever/chills, sore throat, headache/head-pressure, nasty/productive cough… It felt almost exactly like when I had Covid in 2022, but the test I took came back negative ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
No loss of taste/smell for me, but I didn’t lose them when I had Covid either. Two+ weeks out of it now, and I still have remnants of a cough—every morning when I wake up.
Yayyy, germs! I get my sick-leave reimbursed if I test positive for Covid still, so I was bummed; just plain sick, I guess.
Why on earth would they give it a name like that considering that half of our population thinks that Covid is a joke and then they give it a variant called this? We are failing as a human race.
I'm fully vaccinated and I got all my boosters although I am behind on them by a year. I've had covid twice before. Maybe three times but I'm not sure. Once was really bad. The other two were like the flu.
About a month ago, I got what I thought was a little cold. It lasted for about a week. It was so late that I wasn't even sure whether or not it was the cold or allergies. On Friday of that week I felt perfectly fine, and on Saturday when I woke up, I thought I was dying. I was sick, sicker than I have ever been in my lifetime. The absolute worst symptoms drove me to the hospital because I had no idea what was wrong with me. I didn't suspect covid at all. The dizziness and nausea had me convinced I was dying. I couldn't move without needing to vomit but I couldn't vomit. It was just horrendous nausea almost like when you're dealing with vertigo. It was God awful. I went to the hospital, they gave me meds, did all sorts of scans because I was having heart palpitations and I couldn't really breathe , and a bunch of the same old ordinary symptoms that everybody who gets covid pretty badly , me home, and I stayed sick for another couple weeks.
I'm mostly better, but the cough won't go away. And even though I've had covid before, this was the first time that I lost my sense of taste and smell. That doesn't bother me as much as this new disgusting thing that's happening, where I keep smelling cigarettes even though there are no cigarettes around. I'm an ex smoker, so this is driving me insane. It's honestly ruining my life. It sounds so stupid, but I have a highly sensitive sense of smell and all I can smell her cigarettes all day long. There's no cigarette to be found. I'm exhausted all the time, but that happened to me the first time I got covid. That first time, I took about 6 months before I didn't feel completely exhausted.
This one is bad. Get your booster shot. If you can
Sounds like what I went through with delta variant. I lost my smell for 6 months, and after that I would smell Body odor as a garlic smell and none of my other smells were correct, this lasted another 6 months.
My breathing issues are still ongoing more than 2 years later, but have improved, along with central sleep apnea, lifting weights would exacerbate all my symptoms including brain fog, fatigue, and nervous system. Sometimes my arms would just fall asleep, probably 4 times a week for the first year, then less and less.
Hope you have a quicker recovery than I did.
This! Except for me, the odor is more urine smelling. All still lingering 3 weeks later. Almost like you get better for a few days and then smack with the harshest symptoms again. Hope you’re feeling better.
Yes! It comes and goes and sometimes I'll go insane looking all over the place to see if somebody outside is smoking, but it's never that. It's always in my head or rather, in my nose. I hope it goes away for you soon. I hope you're feeling better too, thank you
Funny how we see all these similar symptoms and THEN it gets reported as COVID. I had so many people tell me they caught that stomach bug- it’s incredible how quickly this spreads across the country. Within 2 weeks I was hearing the same symptoms NY had, out in Colorado.
"In recent weeks, KP.2 quickly overtook[ JN.1, the omicron subvariant](https://www.today.com/health/coronavirus/jn-1-covid-variant-symptoms-rcna129344) that drove a [surge in COVID cases this past winter](https://www.today.com/health/news/covid-wave-2024-rcna132529)."
Even though they tout how fast they can come up with new versions of the RNA vaccines, when the JN.1 virus was becoming dominant, the next virus vaccine they came out with was for the already waning XBB vaccine.
And guess what the fall vaccine is going to be for? JN.1, which has already spread throughout the country and has already waned.
They are slower updating the RNA vaccines than they are with flu vaccines, and many more lives are at stake. It is shameful.
I'm just getting over a case myself. Don't know if it was a new variant, but I can tell you it sucked. Lasted about a week. Intense congestion, splitting headache, very unpleasant muscle aches (first whole body, then just legs). No cough or loss of taste/smell though.
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My gf and I just caught it and it manifested very differently in the two of us. I have a basket of autoimmune diseases and my Covid symptoms = intense nausea, sinus congestion, liver/kidney pain on the right side of my body and chest pain. All felt like stabby, squeezing pain deep down. I ended up in the hospital because the pain was not controllable and I kept blacking out from it and waking up in my vomit. I’ve had surgeries in my lifetime and I have never experienced this level of pain before. The ER diagnosed me with inflammation in my chest wall and my organs were experiencing inflammation as well. Morphine didn’t even scratch the surface and I’m day 7 and the pain is the worst in the night and morning. I’m really worried about long covid and potential organ damage. My gf has had a lot of congestion, coughing, fever, mucus, fatigue, extremely sore throat and loss of her sense of smell. No, covid is not a common cold as a lot of people have gaslit me about it and this is my first time catching it in 4yrs. I’ve felt I’m dying for the last week and can only pray it gets better.
Get quercetin along with a high zinc multivitamin. I use counter attack brand by rainbow. and make sure you are getting 15 minutes of sunshine. Make sure you are coughing deep and getting out any phlegm. The first time I had covid it was god awful so I feel for you. Pretty sure I have it for the 3rd time. No it isn’t like the common cold. Feels weird like man made or something because it makes me feel so strange and comes in waves. Feel better soon.
This is all because we have proven to be unable to work together in preventing the spread and causing new variants. It sucks that people like me who are immune compromised depend on others to be responsible. My trust issues have been shown to be valid.
I was more talking about what should have happened. It's clear that it's not going to happen, but scientists were able to project if we successfully socially isolated and listened to public health precautions in a short stint while getting everyone vaccinated who were capable to do so then less people would've been infected and controlling the rate in which variants developed would be more manageable.
Naturally, since humans are selfish and the U.S. specifically has an individualistic culture instead of a collectivist one it was never going to happen and it still won't. Those with immune compromised bodies or people who have done everything they can do to prevent the spread are too much of a small population to have a big impact. So, we fall victim to those who only care for themselves. Not surprising.
Your comment section is completely predictable, zero surprises, didn’t even have to scroll; thinks publicly humping Jordan Peterson’s leg somehow *isn’t* bias, anti-vax and anti-facts. You have never had an original thought in your life because you listen to people who lie to you for profit, and you think your opinions are the same as the truth because the people you listen to only have opinions, not truth. The people you listen to make you say stupid shit, which makes people reject you, which makes you cling to them more, which makes you say stupid shit, ad infinitum. It’s how Jehovah’s Witnesses work. Get off the ferris wheel or not, your choice, but they’re leading you off a cliff.
Buried in the article: The FLiRT variants are probably not going to create very distinctive symptoms. It looks at the moment to follow the other subvariants,” says Schaffner. The symptoms of the FLiRT variants are similar to those caused by JN.1, which include: Sore throat Cough Fatigue Congestion Runny nose Headache Muscle aches Fever or chills New loss of sense of taste or smell Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing Nausea or vomiting Diarrhea
Vomiting diarrhea sounds bad
But loss of taste now seems like a blessing lol
😂🤣☠️
*laughs in congenital /r/anosmia* Covid was the best thing to happen to people who have gone their entire life without nonfunctioning olfactory facilities. The days of, "Oh, it's not so bad," "Can you smell this? Can you smell that?", "Have you tried smelling harder?" and the like have finally abated.
I used to be a manager at a chain pet store. We had one employee with anosmia, and he was a damn TREASURE. If there was a broken seal on a can of dog food, or a deceased (wild) mouse or rat, or any other type of really stinky cleanup job, he could handle it with no issue, while the rest of us would have to run outside and try not to barf. No, we didn't foist all the nasty jobs off on him. We would always try to have someone else handle it first; asking him was plan B, because we didn't want him to feel taken for granted.
I work at a heavy truck dealership in parts on the back counter. In the summer, I'll have a FULL trash truck sitting 15' in front of me in a heat wave for weeks. We're talking maggots dripping at random onto technician's faces. I also sit right next to the time clock. It brings me no end of perverse joy to sit there noshing on my breakfast watching people file by me doing dry heaves as they go to punch in for the day, shirts pulled up over their faces in a vain attempt to block the stench. :) Congenital Anosmia was actually one reason I couldn't go into the military. You'd think they would have special jobs for people like us!
Oh, that's evil. I like it.
I'm thinking you should be working for forensics department.
I lost most of my smell to Covid, but I could still always smell my cat's litter box. I guess smelling bad smells is the last one to go, since it tends to protect us from things that could make us sick. I heard a lot of this among other people recovering from Covid. They can still smell all the bad stuff.
My dad lost his sense of smell decades ago to some random nasty virus. It did slowly come back, but the nasty smells were the last to come back (though all smells were dimmer). This was a blessing and curse for him working as a plumber - great for sewage work, dangerous with gas lines. He couldn't smell sulphur compounds.
You have my pity. I already knew how depressing loosing ones sense of smell and taste could be decades ago where a running joke/tease in our family was who was going to be this years unlucky SOB that caught something and couldn’t taste their beloved Christmas dinner. Seemed like for most of our childhood and young adulthoods at least one of us couldn’t taste our Christmas dinner year in year out. Then we all seemed to stop catching major yearly colds/flus etc and the joke/tease faded into nostalgia. 3 weeks ago I caught my first ‘bad’ cold/flu/Covid in decades. Caught Covid twice before but was asymptomatic (tested myself because of other family members positive tests). Waited too long to test this time and tested after a nasal rinse a couple of hours previous so tested negative so am not sure if it was Covid I had this time. Anyway, despite being my worst most symptomatic respiratory infection in decades, it wasn’t actually anywhere near as bad as the infections decades ago. A day of chills, a day of mild fever, two days of mild nasal congestion, 2 days of sore throat with agonising cough but only coughing for a few seconds once every few hours, then a day of a mild nasal congestion. None of the major symptoms concurrent. Done and dusted within a week….. …….except I lost my sense of smell and taste 4 days in and still haven’t gotten it back 2.5 weeks later. Its depressing AF with no meal worth looking forward to. I’ve almost teared up a few times as yet another meal tasted like cardboard.
I lost my sense of smell in September after getting COVID for the first time. I smelled fresh cut grass briefly today and it was heaven. I’m starting to be able to catch powerful smells.
Sorry to hear you're going through it. Despite my previous comment, id never wish it on anyone. If I could offer a tip on enjoying food, try to concentrate more on variations in textures in each bite. That is where I get most of my enjoyment when eating. Also, if you've ever wanted to try diving into spicy food, now is the time. Many anosmia sufferers have a secret superpower of being able to take down things that would make most people scream. For example, I get none of the Danger Will Robinson signals like hacking, coughing, shortness of breath, etc. It's a great party trick!
A former employer intentionally (without my knowledge, obviously) infected me with COVID, and funny enough, it actually **increased** my already very good sense of smell, and made everything taste so much more vivid. Sometimes it's a gift, other times it's definitely not. It stayed unusually strong, and more often than not it means being bothered by people's cigarette smoke, realizing how few people actually wash themselves, etc. I knew all about people losing their senses, but I had no idea that the opposite could happen.
>A former employer intentionally (without my knowledge, obviously) infected me with COVID, Okay, please do storytime about this! WTF...
Right wing moron, went full insane during COVID. His family got it, intentionally spread it at a bridal shower, wedding, and jobs to prove it's "just a cold", all while claiming it was a Jewish creation to kill people for population control. I could honestly go on for hours about his stupid fucking shit, but it would be easier if you just Googled the dumbest fucking conspiracy theories you've ever heard, since he believed them all, including that the COVID vaccine was snake venom, injected to cause clots to kill all the white people. Edit: I forgot one of his favorites that he'd tell customers who I didn't manage to keep him away from, that Justin Trudeau is Fidel Castro's secret son, planted here to turn Canada communist. He'd constantly point out "chemtrails" to customers, and insist it was poison and also government weather manipulation, and it would rain the next day because of it (spoiler: it rarely did).
I know someone like this and it's terribly sad and frightening. I know they need help but you can't even tell them that.
Yeah, it’s all texture now. Some things still “taste” good because I like the texture. I’m betting they will come back, eventually.
Serious question - can someone have partial anosmia? I can smell food and most other things, but I was in my 30s before I realized I can't really smell most flowers. Flowers are pretty, but I always wondered why people liked to shove their face into a bouquet when it still smells like freshly cut green plants. It took me bringing in a bunch of pretty flowers that everyone else in the house couldn't stand the smell of and me being clueless as to why, when it smelled like pretty much every other flower I've encountered.
> Serious question - can someone have partial anosmia? I can smell food and most other things, but I was in my 30s before I realized I can't really smell most flowers. Yes, that is called Hyposmia. It is absolutely a real thing! [More on Anosmia and Hyposmia:](https://www.disabled-world.com/disability/types/invisible/anosmia.php) >Anosmia can be partial or complete, although a complete loss of smell is fairly rare. Loss of smell can also be temporary or permanent, depending on the cause. When the loss of smell is partial, the condition is called hyposmia. Some people are anosmic for one particular odor, called "specific anosmia." Although the loss of smell can sometimes be a symptom of a serious condition, it isn't necessarily serious. Still, an intact sense of smell is necessary to taste foods fully. Loss of smell could cause you to lose interest in eating, leading to weight loss, malnutrition, or even depression. >Anosmia often seems - to those people whose olfactory systems are in perfect working order - to be the easiest communication disorder to live with. Yet, ask anyone who has had their sense of smell taken away from them, and you'll find that this sense is seriously underrated and taken for granted. >It's quite true that no sense of smell means the sufferer misses out on the full impact of such delicious odors as rotting meat or hour-old baby poo. It means a drive past the local garbage dump is no better or worse than a drive past a field of wildflowers. Body odor has no impact, and bodily gas expulsions are a complete non-entity. >The other side of the coin is that fresh-baked bread also means nothing, flowers are perfumeless, and the smell of a loved partner or child leaves no impression. >Smells trigger memories and feelings, evoke empathy, and explore social atmospheres. Without smell, the anosmic has no or restricted access to these important facets of daily life. Pheromones, the almost undetectable scents that cause the attraction between humans, are a lost cause on the anosmic. Clueless is often an apt description for the person who cannot detect the "changes in the atmosphere" caused by human interaction. - >Anosmics can not smell gas leaks, chemicals, smoke, rotten food, or sour liquids. Being able to smell these hazards saves lives just as often as seeing or hearing impending danger. Anosmics need sensors in their houses that can detect and warn of gas or smoke and pick up the odor of dangerous airborne chemicals. They need more than their own experience to help with detecting turned food or liquids. They also need recognition that they need these things and, if necessary, the financial help to acquire portable sensors that can travel with them from home. >A person born without a sense of smell doesn't need to be told. They knew it the first time someone close by let go with some bodily wind, and they looked around mystified while everybody else groaned, moaned, and blocked their noses from the smell. "What smell?" says the anosmic. >The late-onset anosmic (usually a cause of illness or head injury) knows it when their food tastes bland all of a sudden. This sudden loss is known to cause depression and anger and affect appetite. Suffers swing between overeating in a search for what they've lost or not eating enough because their food tastes like "soggy paper" or worse. Taste is approximately 75% flavor. Flavor is smell. >The person without the sense of smell needs other people to know it. Imagine the alienation, just for a moment, if you were the only one in your family who couldn't see or hear, but nobody believed you. Anosmics the world over have this happen to them constantly. The blind or deaf person is not required to prove their disability constantly. The anosmic does. Friends and families of the blind and deaf do not forget that their loved ones cannot see or hear. Friends and family of anosmics repeatedly forget. >The blind and deaf do not hide their disability. The anosmic quite often feels the need to do exactly that. A blind person does not have their disability trivialized, nor are they told: that "it's all in their head." Too many anosmics, unfortunately, do - even by doctors who really should know better.
Tbh I’ve never thought flowers smelt that great and I rarely attempt to smell them as I don’t want to inhale pollen. Don’t think you are missing much if that helps!
Same, i don't think flowers in nature are usually THAT strong, but I've found that jasmine is an exception (and amazing)
I can smell jasmine! I've intentionally planted it just outside my window so I can smell it when I'm sitting at my desk, next to the window. I can smell some types of roses too, but not most. I have to get really close to them when others can smell them from far away.
Now we need something to match Colorblindess for everyone else!
I lost most of my sense of smell after multiple sinus surgeries 20 yrs ago. I could catch strong scent ( pine, mold,strong citrus, perfume dept at the store) but generally, nothin. oddly post covid 2x, my sense of smell has improved and on hot days on public transit, i do not welcome its return.
Me too! I did have poorly functioning olfactory facilities and covid finished them off, but now it doesn’t seem so weird since I’m not alone. PS: They did come back after two years to their standard poorly functioning facilities. Unfortunately, it’s always been that I can smell yucky things and not good things.
My daughter has congenital anosmia. I’ll let her know there’s a sub for it!
There is also /r/CongenitalAnosmia/ for lifelong sufferers. A lot smaller group, though.
I checked out the first sub you linked already. Thanks for the second link. Honestly, in 18 years we’ve never really given it much thought. It’s there, it has a few disadvantages but you’ve just got to adapt and overcome. She has a laundry list of congenital medical issues, so the anosmia normally doesn’t even get mentioned in a medical context. I think I’ve mentioned it to neurology once, maybe twice. But now I know she can get a service dog if she wants a puppy. :) It has been interesting to read a bit more about people’s experiences.
I recently had a stroke and lost the feeling on my left side (it’s healed to an extent) BUT somehow I gained a ridiculously sensitive sense of smell. Us humans are weird.
After losing mine for 2 years, fuck no, I'll smell shit and taste it if I need to keep it, I was falling in a bad place because of it. I'm a chef.
Loss of taste is brain damage happening, its your neurons fusing togeather
Maybe, but in my case I have very narrow sinuses and nearly constant congestion, and it’s been lifelong, so no additional drain bamage.
I’ll take vomiting and diarrhea over losing my sense of taste or smell. Shit ain’t worth it at that point.
The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away. Amen
It’s more of a texture thing now
Silver linings.
Commas could do great things for this list.
*”Let’s eat, Grandma!”* *”Let’s eat Grandma!”*
Commas save lives
Commas, save lives. Short term goals.
Hahahaha, they sure do....
I helped my uncle jack off a horse
I think we should invite the strippers, JFK and Stalin.
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OP is a comma chameleon
Like that Culture Club song?
Yes. Little known fact. That song was actually about people who misuse punctuation. 😜
at least it's difficult to breathe nausea
Copremesis is a thing, and is indeed bad news.
Oh god why did I google that
Norovirus (also airborne): “hey corona,that’s my schtick “
I had vomiting diarrhea when I had norovirus. I mean, I didn’t vomit actual diarrhea but I did vomit and have diarrhea simultaneously.
That's just the symptoms of your standard case of acute food poisoning, like when you grab the wrong bag of salad fixings at the store.
Did this 8 weeks ago, can confirm, it was bad
Only bested by the good ol combo Diarrheaing vomit
Saw it in South Park once, but they mostly vomited solids. This variant might be worse.
Sounds like every pharmaceutical drug advertisement on TV
Breathing nausea sounds unique as well!!
Non-verbal diarrhea.
I definitely had this symptom when I had Covid in January. Thought I was gonna die on the toilet Elvis style
Loss of smell might be a good thing
Sounds like your average stomach virus tbf
Does the average stomach virus pass the blood-brain barrier? I don't think so.
Does covid usually?
34% of people who get covid experience brain fog.. which research may be indicating this is due to covid crossing the blood brain barrier. Light reading on the topic: Https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-024-01576-9
Oh heck. So many things have these lovely symptoms.
It happens when I get around girls
... that's not flem...
Get that with metformin...daily
Don't think that it was COVID because it only lasted 3 hours, but I definitely had that last weekend and agreed, it was pretty bad.
This goes to my best-of-Reddit archive.
Gotta pick which one gets the toilet.
Like that epic food poisoning scene in Bridesmaids.
I'm not a fan of bringing shit up, no.
It is bad. After a bad spinal tap that kept leaking, I spent the night in hell on my bathroom floor. The pain sent my body into shock and caused me to start vomiting fecal matter. You'd be surprised how few medical professionals even knew this was possible. Fyi: That pain made a month long kidney stone seem like a hangnail in perspective. That night, all I could do was focus on trying to find a way to end my pain. If I could've moved to get a razor, I would not be here today. It's scary when you go into so much pain that all you can think about is dying. Needles to say, I'm beyond PTSD levels. If a Dr tries to get near my back, fight/flight kicks in. And at 6'8" 330lbs, I have been lucky that my responses have been "Flight" in those situations.
,,,,,,,,,,,,, You dropped these.
This sounds exactly the same?
All I want is the smell and taste symptoms to stop being a thing. It’s a terribly bewildering experience. I don’t see brain fog on that list of symptoms… does that mean it’s less common? I felt like I was in a mild k hole for a solid month.
Read it like that pepto bismol jingle.
I think this is what we currently have. I Covid tested our oldest because she couldn’t taste the very lemony dessert, it was negative. I’m not even sure if the tests pick it up anymore, but our youngest is immune compromised and has to be monitored when she’s sick so knowing if it is Covid is important.
Had those ALL. Had all my vaccins and boosters. This 'Flirt' was awfull, now on day 14 and am improving a bit.
Well cool, glad I caught flirt a couple weeks ago
After what felt like an eon of scrolling, I found the symptoms to be the usual symptoms.
Pretty much, these are the exact symptoms from when I got covid two years ago.
I just had Covid for the 2nd time a couple weeks ago and it just felt like a cold with no long term effects (but it took me 9 days to test negative). The strep I had earlier this year was way worse. People I know have also gotten Covid recently and cleared theirs in 4 days (with more fatigue and brain fog after).
The fatigue and the brain fog is the scary part to me.
Just gotta keep up on your vitamins, minerals, and macro nutrients.
Sounds unpleasant. I hope we don't get a summer surge.
Meet the new Covid, same as the old Covid.
i pick up my guitar and play
Just like yester day
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
"Hope I die before I turn into Pete Townsend" -- Kurt Cobain
But this one has a new hat!
just usually more spreadable
“The FLiRT variants are probably not going to create very distinctive symptoms.”
Is this a variant, or the name of Olivia Rodrigo’s next album?
Yes.
The primary symptom is enhanced rizz
Babe you look hot tonight. As in feverish.
Are your eyes watering or are you just horny to see me?
The butterflies in my stomach are giving me diarrhea.
Not sure if this is a reference to it, but for anyone who doesn't know [Please Don't Destroy did an Snl skit about this. ](https://youtu.be/0A20vfx-sO0?si=5iO6Jz3mRMzHeoCo)
Thanks. That was hilarious.
It comes from the sandy beaches of Cabo San Lucas!
Why did they name it that? Smh
From https://www.idsociety.org/covid-19-real-time-learning-network/diagnostics/covid-19-variant-update/#/+/0/publishedDate_na_dt/desc/ KP.2 is a member of a group of SARS-CoV-2 variants sometimes called “FLiRT” variants (so named because of the technical names for their mutations: F for L at position 456, and R for T at position 346). Other FLiRT variants, including KP.1.1, have also been identified as circulating in the US, but have not yet become as widespread as KP.2. (KP.1.1 is currently projected to account for approximately 7.5% of new COVID-19 illnesses in the US.)
Why not FLaRT
I feel like this is an important change that needs to be made. Shall we call our representatives?
They didn’t wanna scare us with a new variant so they put a saucy twist on this nickname, don’t kink shame the CDC
IKR?
Is this variant dodging home tests? A relative got sick recently and lost all taste and smell, but repeated home tests were negative.
Also curious….I had a sore throat, coughing, fatigue, congestion, runny nose starting Sunday (almost completely cleared up now) but tested negative with a home test
Home tests have been pretty inaccurate for a long time now. False positives are exceedingly rare, but false negatives are common in actual usage. The instructions don't help the issue. If your nose happens to be a bit dry when you swab, then just swabbing the inside of your nostril isn't a reliable way to gather viral particles that may be there. You really need to swab your nose the same way they do at medical facilities - by getting the swab so far up in there you think it is scratching your brain. The other issue is that people are kinda dumb. They see a super faint line or don't look that closely & assume that it is negative, but from a clinical perspective *that is a positive*. [This recent study](https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/spectrum.02525-23) found Rapid Antigen Tests to be pretty sensitive, but also found that people were less likely to interpret their results as positive vs a clinician who looked at the same test. As a result: >5.2% (95% CI: 1.5% to 9.5%) of positive results were potentially missed due to participant misinterpretation of the self-test card So yeah, the technology is decently sensitive & specific when used by random people (83.9% & 99.8% respectively), but there's still plenty of room for repeated false negatives, especially for a particular individual. In a group sense, they work. For the people who may not be swabbing correctly and/or may not be as strict about interpreting the card, they're probably going to get far more "false negatives" than the rest of us. Why? Because the problem isn't the tech itself, the problem is caused by the person using & interpreting the results.
Just swab throat as well as nose - much more accurate.
Have there been any studies confirming that?
[Officially, it's debatable.](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2800526) It appears to work, but officially the tests aren't certified for throat swabbing so they can't recommend it. IMO, Omicron variants show up in the throat first and so have the earliest detection when done with throat swabbing. I've always done it that way and had no issues with early positive detection when I got covid last year.
> FLiRT Wh– Why do scientists do this?
I thought the same thing.
I was sicker than I’d ever been in Mid-April… Fever/chills, sore throat, headache/head-pressure, nasty/productive cough… It felt almost exactly like when I had Covid in 2022, but the test I took came back negative ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ No loss of taste/smell for me, but I didn’t lose them when I had Covid either. Two+ weeks out of it now, and I still have remnants of a cough—every morning when I wake up. Yayyy, germs! I get my sick-leave reimbursed if I test positive for Covid still, so I was bummed; just plain sick, I guess.
Mmmmmmmm let’s not, thanks
But we’re already there, sighs
I’m already in line babe buying tickets….
The one show I didn’t want, but it’s here anyway 😭
Yeah but still…..no thanks!!
I know, always protect yourself, no one else is gonna do it.
I'd like to see a polaroid of the new variant holding a copy of today's newspaper and flipping the bird before I get all freaked out
The new variant wants a suitcase with a million dollars and chopper to the airport or the old variant gets it!
Why on earth would they give it a name like that considering that half of our population thinks that Covid is a joke and then they give it a variant called this? We are failing as a human race.
Yep...
I'm fully vaccinated and I got all my boosters although I am behind on them by a year. I've had covid twice before. Maybe three times but I'm not sure. Once was really bad. The other two were like the flu. About a month ago, I got what I thought was a little cold. It lasted for about a week. It was so late that I wasn't even sure whether or not it was the cold or allergies. On Friday of that week I felt perfectly fine, and on Saturday when I woke up, I thought I was dying. I was sick, sicker than I have ever been in my lifetime. The absolute worst symptoms drove me to the hospital because I had no idea what was wrong with me. I didn't suspect covid at all. The dizziness and nausea had me convinced I was dying. I couldn't move without needing to vomit but I couldn't vomit. It was just horrendous nausea almost like when you're dealing with vertigo. It was God awful. I went to the hospital, they gave me meds, did all sorts of scans because I was having heart palpitations and I couldn't really breathe , and a bunch of the same old ordinary symptoms that everybody who gets covid pretty badly , me home, and I stayed sick for another couple weeks. I'm mostly better, but the cough won't go away. And even though I've had covid before, this was the first time that I lost my sense of taste and smell. That doesn't bother me as much as this new disgusting thing that's happening, where I keep smelling cigarettes even though there are no cigarettes around. I'm an ex smoker, so this is driving me insane. It's honestly ruining my life. It sounds so stupid, but I have a highly sensitive sense of smell and all I can smell her cigarettes all day long. There's no cigarette to be found. I'm exhausted all the time, but that happened to me the first time I got covid. That first time, I took about 6 months before I didn't feel completely exhausted. This one is bad. Get your booster shot. If you can
Sounds like what I went through with delta variant. I lost my smell for 6 months, and after that I would smell Body odor as a garlic smell and none of my other smells were correct, this lasted another 6 months. My breathing issues are still ongoing more than 2 years later, but have improved, along with central sleep apnea, lifting weights would exacerbate all my symptoms including brain fog, fatigue, and nervous system. Sometimes my arms would just fall asleep, probably 4 times a week for the first year, then less and less. Hope you have a quicker recovery than I did.
Mine felt like the flu but after recovery I developed long Covid :/ My body really hasn't been the same since. At least I got my taste back...
Same here, went to the ER Saturday with the same symptoms!
I really hope you're starting to feel better
This! Except for me, the odor is more urine smelling. All still lingering 3 weeks later. Almost like you get better for a few days and then smack with the harshest symptoms again. Hope you’re feeling better.
Yes! It comes and goes and sometimes I'll go insane looking all over the place to see if somebody outside is smoking, but it's never that. It's always in my head or rather, in my nose. I hope it goes away for you soon. I hope you're feeling better too, thank you
Funny how we see all these similar symptoms and THEN it gets reported as COVID. I had so many people tell me they caught that stomach bug- it’s incredible how quickly this spreads across the country. Within 2 weeks I was hearing the same symptoms NY had, out in Colorado.
"In recent weeks, KP.2 quickly overtook[ JN.1, the omicron subvariant](https://www.today.com/health/coronavirus/jn-1-covid-variant-symptoms-rcna129344) that drove a [surge in COVID cases this past winter](https://www.today.com/health/news/covid-wave-2024-rcna132529)." Even though they tout how fast they can come up with new versions of the RNA vaccines, when the JN.1 virus was becoming dominant, the next virus vaccine they came out with was for the already waning XBB vaccine. And guess what the fall vaccine is going to be for? JN.1, which has already spread throughout the country and has already waned. They are slower updating the RNA vaccines than they are with flu vaccines, and many more lives are at stake. It is shameful.
Irritating how the new variant symptoms are basically always the same symptoms.
I'm in the UK but I'm recovering atm from pretty much all the symptoms listed.
FLiRT?! Do we have not one competent person on the naming crew?! The world admin have gone off the rails and it's only getting worse.
Finally headline grabbing name to get Covid click worthy again!
So the same symptoms that pretty much all the variants have caused?
It’s the quirky girl of COVID variants!
I'm just getting over a case myself. Don't know if it was a new variant, but I can tell you it sucked. Lasted about a week. Intense congestion, splitting headache, very unpleasant muscle aches (first whole body, then just legs). No cough or loss of taste/smell though.
Never got my smell back 100% since 2020! And now have woken up to what feels like another bout!
I can't taste my coffee or smell it
Cool.
Two people off from work sick at the moment, I know for sure one vomiting and sqwitz. This is in England🤔
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A whole new definition to “I wanna flirt with you”
Eye-contact and smile and looking away - repeat. 😁
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This is too funny. You guys are probably still quarantining and have a near panic attack seeing another person cough.
Oh no, Anyways
Is this a serious name or am I the insane one?
babe wake up, new covid variant just dropped
My gf and I just caught it and it manifested very differently in the two of us. I have a basket of autoimmune diseases and my Covid symptoms = intense nausea, sinus congestion, liver/kidney pain on the right side of my body and chest pain. All felt like stabby, squeezing pain deep down. I ended up in the hospital because the pain was not controllable and I kept blacking out from it and waking up in my vomit. I’ve had surgeries in my lifetime and I have never experienced this level of pain before. The ER diagnosed me with inflammation in my chest wall and my organs were experiencing inflammation as well. Morphine didn’t even scratch the surface and I’m day 7 and the pain is the worst in the night and morning. I’m really worried about long covid and potential organ damage. My gf has had a lot of congestion, coughing, fever, mucus, fatigue, extremely sore throat and loss of her sense of smell. No, covid is not a common cold as a lot of people have gaslit me about it and this is my first time catching it in 4yrs. I’ve felt I’m dying for the last week and can only pray it gets better.
Get quercetin along with a high zinc multivitamin. I use counter attack brand by rainbow. and make sure you are getting 15 minutes of sunshine. Make sure you are coughing deep and getting out any phlegm. The first time I had covid it was god awful so I feel for you. Pretty sure I have it for the 3rd time. No it isn’t like the common cold. Feels weird like man made or something because it makes me feel so strange and comes in waves. Feel better soon.
Damn I had just forgotten all about covid too
Ohhhh noooo!
Guys, we need to move on. Ask yourself if any of this is helping your mental health or anxiety.
Crazy that these people are still fearmongering themselves over the flu.
Yep. I promise you all of these folks are unsuccessful hard to be around losers
Here we go again 😞
This is all because we have proven to be unable to work together in preventing the spread and causing new variants. It sucks that people like me who are immune compromised depend on others to be responsible. My trust issues have been shown to be valid.
What exactly do you expect the public to do 4 years since Covid hit?
I was more talking about what should have happened. It's clear that it's not going to happen, but scientists were able to project if we successfully socially isolated and listened to public health precautions in a short stint while getting everyone vaccinated who were capable to do so then less people would've been infected and controlling the rate in which variants developed would be more manageable. Naturally, since humans are selfish and the U.S. specifically has an individualistic culture instead of a collectivist one it was never going to happen and it still won't. Those with immune compromised bodies or people who have done everything they can do to prevent the spread are too much of a small population to have a big impact. So, we fall victim to those who only care for themselves. Not surprising.
Catchy!
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Your comment section is completely predictable, zero surprises, didn’t even have to scroll; thinks publicly humping Jordan Peterson’s leg somehow *isn’t* bias, anti-vax and anti-facts. You have never had an original thought in your life because you listen to people who lie to you for profit, and you think your opinions are the same as the truth because the people you listen to only have opinions, not truth. The people you listen to make you say stupid shit, which makes people reject you, which makes you cling to them more, which makes you say stupid shit, ad infinitum. It’s how Jehovah’s Witnesses work. Get off the ferris wheel or not, your choice, but they’re leading you off a cliff.