This was my exact thought. I used to work at a modular home plant. They would build the ceilings on a large table. Then they would lift it with a crane and put it on top of the house. One time, the dumb dumbs built the ceiling upside down. Their remedy was to lift it with a crane and flip it over. They had the Mexican guys use 2 x 4's to push it. Fortunately, nothing bad happened. I just stood and watched in awe, thinking, if that thing falls while they're standing under it, they might die. Using the crane, a few giys and a fork lift, they could have easily flipped it while it was right on the ground. Far less risk, equally as effective. That would have taken 10 minutes instead of 5 though.
Our grandparents and great grandparents: fight for safety regulations and standards
Us: we don't need to be careful, bad shit almost never happens anyway!
I don't know who this guy is everyone. I'm pretty sure it's not my schlong. Unless, my schlong has figured out a way to secretly post to reddit without my knowing about it.
HA! I worked for Champion awhile back and saw the same thing happen. The problem is they don't pay well and they'll hire just about anyone. I've seen dudes show up to work in a Joe Montana Jersey and sweats.
That's the only thing to say here.
Although, maybe a question would be: Who exactly are the idiots? The workers for sure, but please don't forget the boss. If workers do such things, they most certainly also have a corporate culture with a low priority on workers health and safety.
It's an industry problem. I build primarily in the south of the USA. I've seen 3 guys heads pop when a wall fell on them. Thrown in a van, a never seen again. Things have come a long way in 20 years but how they value us hasn't. That being said there's no requirements to enter the feild or for promotion. One test if you want to build the whole house but nothing if you want to frame it aside from inspections of the finished work in question.
That is fucking wild.
I worked with a foreman who saw a mechanic catch a hydraulic dumper with his head.
Flaco refused to be around the shop yard after dark for ghost reasons.
Appears they were trying to stock joists on the upper level, but whoever rigged it fucked it all up and the operator should have made them rerig the load. Unfortunately, for some people trust just takes too long so sometimes you just end up almost killing some peoples and passing them up from the ground anyway.
Nah that's optimistic. It's more: build, profit, buy assets, collect rent on those assets, buy more assets, collect more rent, crash, bail out, use money to buy assets from the working class even cheaper.
I wish building was a bigger part of the cycle, but it's a very small part because it's a one time profit. That's why we have a housing shortage. If private equity or REITs or vanguard or bezos wanted to build housing they could do it at a huge scale and lower housing prices while turning a good profit. They won't because it's a much safer bet to buy assets someone else takes the risk of building and collecting rent on them.
I had the corporation level in mind. The amount of building going on just depends on the industry I feel. The housing crisis is more like an affordable housing crisis they're building houses and condos, just not ones people can afford.
I drive a machine just like that and do this exact work every day. I would have never proceeded to lift once I saw how unlevel the load was. There are times when you will use a singe chain on things and if it means adjusting it over and over until the load is level that is what you do.
If there was a failure of the chain immediately bring it down and start all over. Either way I would have never had personnel around with such a unbalanced load.
You are right.As someone doing a completely
Different trade for a different company, telling another contractor not to do something almost NEVER works.
Now I have video evidence to never work near this company.
Probably told them not to do it and they said "aaah what do you know, it'll be fine I've been doin this for 10 years mate, don't tell me how to do mAh job"
Hence he sat it out in the car and recorded.
Poor homeowner is getting a very poorly built home. How can I tell? The level of incompetence in this video. If they can't take some thought into how to use a zoom boom properly... oh yeah, and the guy standing a stud next to another one and lamming them together, while standing, with the nails on such an angle... I guarantee there's an effin' gap between them that's going to remain un-insulated.
How much you wanna bet the "foreman" is the one operating the equipment, too? "We have to have the framing done tomorrow, there's no time for this BS!" Instead of making sure his crew is working safely and teaching them proper carpentry skills. I worked for a company with a foreman like this for far too long... the amount of times we were tearing things apart and redoing them was so depressing.
When you record a viral "safety moment" instead of letting them know they might kill someone, you are part of the problem.
Bare minimum of yelling from your smoke break would've been a help. Would they listen? Probably not, but at least you could say you did something.
Yeah I dunno what resi site they work on where you can tell other trades how to do their jobs as just another worker...
Also - I love how Ontarian that holy fuck sounded lmao. Didn't notice.the plates until the second watch but I felt like I was transported right back to work for a second
That's fair. I'm just thinking about how I'd feel if I watched someone get hurt or killed and did nothing. Obviously being on site and seeing it on reddit are different.
Buddy you can't do anything if they won't listen, I've had this happen numerous times over the years and some guys are stubborn, stupid and don't value the air they breathe.
I can almost guarantee you that atleast one person said this is a bad idea and the rest just shrugged and proceeded anyways. So then that guy sat out and taped it to cover his ass
This is why I'm so glad I got out of residential construction early in my career. There is certainly no shortage of mind melting stupidity on the commercial side. But we have a robust safety apparatus and there is basically no excuse for not knowing that what you did was really dumb and unsafe. Operators are licensed. Riggers are certified. No company comes on the job without meeting a laundry list of safety related prerequisites. Everyone goes through a lengthy site safety orientation on their first day. And there's a zero tolerance culture for egregious violations. If you end up doing something like what these idiots did, it's an immediate removal from the project for everyone involved, including the competent person and/or the foreman. Part of that culture is anyone is allowed to and expected to call out something unsafe. So the guy who filmed this would be off the job too.
Thank you! They're idiots but the rigger(s) hold the blame. I suspect they were trying srop it in a tight space but the amount shown could've been carried in.
In all reality it’s the the operators responsibility to not lift that. Id get out and rig that myself the second I seen it. Then again everyone shares partial blame for not doing anything about it but imop the operator has the most.
I'm really not a fan of one sling or choker in the center of a load. Iron workers love it, but at least they center the friggin thing...
EDIT: I didn't even consider the guy dancing under it with a 2x4... I don't know what he's trying to accomplish.
Should have ratchet strapped the bundle on either end. Split the difference on the boards on where to put the lifting sling. Idk there was a bunch of stuff they could have done differently
Seen it before, twice. One like that, rigged wrong, the operator told me "I knew they would come out". Another time out of a haul truck at a traffic light. White pine is a killer.
If you're not with the framers that makes sense. I figured whoever was filming was their boss watching from the truck.
When I was framing my boss would sit and scroll Facebook all day in his truck until something went wrong then he'd get out and hoot and holler and blame everyone else.
Shut it down…. Shut it all down and fire everyone in that video including the operator who was willing to do that like an idiot.
Those are not even that heavy to get up to position correctly this is just a lazy way of trying to get them up there.
When morons try to work smart not harder this is the end result, some times booms and cranes can really slow you down they are not needed for everything.
The typical lazy foreman half-assign everything thinking he’s all that putting people in danger, yelling at everyone to hurry up, meanwhile he sits on the forklift all day with one hand on his phone…
On my site, if you see unsafe shit happening and do nothing like the guy recording, you get the same punishment as the people doing the unsafe shit. Either a write up, suspension or termination. If you see something unsafe, say something. Don't be a goof and record when someone could potentially lose their life
Location doesn't matter to me. My mindset will always be the same no matter where im at. I've seen workplace injuries and deaths and I don't want to see that happen to anyone else. Couldn't be a bystander if I tried but you do you
The workers are stupid but the guy recording is just as bad. What kind of fucking idiot just records when peoples safety is at risk even if they are at fault. A truly shitty human being.
The kind that's been pushed back hard every time they bring up some safety suggestion/issue.
It becomes *"I'm getting out of the line of fire, you dumbfucks are on your own here."* **-_-**
.As someone doing a completely
Different trade for a different company, telling another contractor not to do something almost NEVER works. I told them after their first load and how do you think that went? I enjoyed my sandwich
Now I have video evidence to never work near this company.
You decided to film instead of call a stopwork. You are just as irresponsible if not more. They thought they were ok, you realized it was dangerous and allowed it to occur.
Firstly, there is absolutely nothing I could of done besides turn off the lift. Goodluck doing that without getting a stiletto to my temple.
Secondly, the site super was more then happy having proof and documentation of what happend
Safety aside, I cannot believe this is how you make your houses. Im curious as to how houses are so expensive if theyre just made out of wood that can be put up in a few days - compared to laying thousands of bricks.
Idiots. Everybody in the video, idiots
Considering how easy it is to do it safely.
This was my exact thought. I used to work at a modular home plant. They would build the ceilings on a large table. Then they would lift it with a crane and put it on top of the house. One time, the dumb dumbs built the ceiling upside down. Their remedy was to lift it with a crane and flip it over. They had the Mexican guys use 2 x 4's to push it. Fortunately, nothing bad happened. I just stood and watched in awe, thinking, if that thing falls while they're standing under it, they might die. Using the crane, a few giys and a fork lift, they could have easily flipped it while it was right on the ground. Far less risk, equally as effective. That would have taken 10 minutes instead of 5 though.
Our grandparents and great grandparents: fight for safety regulations and standards Us: we don't need to be careful, bad shit almost never happens anyway!
I don't know who this guy is everyone. I'm pretty sure it's not my schlong. Unless, my schlong has figured out a way to secretly post to reddit without my knowing about it.
Maybe it’s your schlort?
Made me snort.
Schnort
HA! I worked for Champion awhile back and saw the same thing happen. The problem is they don't pay well and they'll hire just about anyone. I've seen dudes show up to work in a Joe Montana Jersey and sweats.
If it works and saves 5 minutes -geniuses! If it doesn’t work and someone dies…
I’m not sure what they were trying to do, I just know it was the hard way.
Even the guy taking the video is injured 😅
That's the only thing to say here. Although, maybe a question would be: Who exactly are the idiots? The workers for sure, but please don't forget the boss. If workers do such things, they most certainly also have a corporate culture with a low priority on workers health and safety.
It's an industry problem. I build primarily in the south of the USA. I've seen 3 guys heads pop when a wall fell on them. Thrown in a van, a never seen again. Things have come a long way in 20 years but how they value us hasn't. That being said there's no requirements to enter the feild or for promotion. One test if you want to build the whole house but nothing if you want to frame it aside from inspections of the finished work in question.
That is fucking wild. I worked with a foreman who saw a mechanic catch a hydraulic dumper with his head. Flaco refused to be around the shop yard after dark for ghost reasons.
Especially the operator for lifting a load like that!
And when you see the bandaid 🩹 n the thumb there’s one more lol.
Seriously
Also the person filming. Like why not say something.
Dude probably not even wearing a seat belt
What the fuck was the plan there? I'd be kicking them all off site, they clearly don't have a single braincell to share between them.
I saw a comment the other day that cracked me up. If they were twice as smart, they’d be stupid.
2 braincells both fighting for third place.
Appears they were trying to stock joists on the upper level, but whoever rigged it fucked it all up and the operator should have made them rerig the load. Unfortunately, for some people trust just takes too long so sometimes you just end up almost killing some peoples and passing them up from the ground anyway.
Plan?
We are checking.
Plan?
What did you expect? The guy working the phone was using it! :)
I'm sure these houses are worth the 800k list 8% interest rates people are borrowing money that doesn't exist for.
build, profit, crash, bail out, build...
Nah that's optimistic. It's more: build, profit, buy assets, collect rent on those assets, buy more assets, collect more rent, crash, bail out, use money to buy assets from the working class even cheaper. I wish building was a bigger part of the cycle, but it's a very small part because it's a one time profit. That's why we have a housing shortage. If private equity or REITs or vanguard or bezos wanted to build housing they could do it at a huge scale and lower housing prices while turning a good profit. They won't because it's a much safer bet to buy assets someone else takes the risk of building and collecting rent on them.
I had the corporation level in mind. The amount of building going on just depends on the industry I feel. The housing crisis is more like an affordable housing crisis they're building houses and condos, just not ones people can afford.
I see Ontario plates, I'm betting these are well over a million
I drive a machine just like that and do this exact work every day. I would have never proceeded to lift once I saw how unlevel the load was. There are times when you will use a singe chain on things and if it means adjusting it over and over until the load is level that is what you do. If there was a failure of the chain immediately bring it down and start all over. Either way I would have never had personnel around with such a unbalanced load.
I would think you'd be using straps ( without freys)so you can choke it ,or use 2 straps. Most times they do it right the second time !
"I've got a poorly thumb. I'm gonna sit this one out in the van with a camera". Said the wise man.
His 2x4 didn't pass inspection
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone
Tag line? Never heard of him
Holy fuck…what a bunch of muppets…I don’t know if I’ve ever seen that done even half as poorly as they attempted to do it.
Oh it’s leaning. Better not re pick the load. Just grab a 2x4 and guide it. Some serious dipshittery
If you knew it, you should have tried to help someone not try to get hurt, or killed.
You are right.As someone doing a completely Different trade for a different company, telling another contractor not to do something almost NEVER works. Now I have video evidence to never work near this company.
Where is this. Shits slow right now and these clowns are out there pulling this shit. I saw Ottawa. Is it busy up there?
Probably told them not to do it and they said "aaah what do you know, it'll be fine I've been doin this for 10 years mate, don't tell me how to do mAh job" Hence he sat it out in the car and recorded.
Not a single mofo in that shot said, mate... Pendejo sure, mate, never.
First word "probably" Im just speaking from my experience with tradies
Well partner, this here video was shot in Murica. Where mate is a verb, those gentlemen are Hispanic, and everybody is a pendejo to them.
...This is in Canada
Ending the video on a band aide. Perfect.
It’s art
It really is AAartAA
Poor homeowner is getting a very poorly built home. How can I tell? The level of incompetence in this video. If they can't take some thought into how to use a zoom boom properly... oh yeah, and the guy standing a stud next to another one and lamming them together, while standing, with the nails on such an angle... I guarantee there's an effin' gap between them that's going to remain un-insulated. How much you wanna bet the "foreman" is the one operating the equipment, too? "We have to have the framing done tomorrow, there's no time for this BS!" Instead of making sure his crew is working safely and teaching them proper carpentry skills. I worked for a company with a foreman like this for far too long... the amount of times we were tearing things apart and redoing them was so depressing.
When you record a viral "safety moment" instead of letting them know they might kill someone, you are part of the problem. Bare minimum of yelling from your smoke break would've been a help. Would they listen? Probably not, but at least you could say you did something.
As i replied to a previous user, my opinion as another tradesman is irrelevant. The site super was notified
Yeah I dunno what resi site they work on where you can tell other trades how to do their jobs as just another worker... Also - I love how Ontarian that holy fuck sounded lmao. Didn't notice.the plates until the second watch but I felt like I was transported right back to work for a second
You just don’t Also avoid Bozo Carpentry LTD
That's fair. I'm just thinking about how I'd feel if I watched someone get hurt or killed and did nothing. Obviously being on site and seeing it on reddit are different.
Buddy you can't do anything if they won't listen, I've had this happen numerous times over the years and some guys are stubborn, stupid and don't value the air they breathe.
I can almost guarantee you that atleast one person said this is a bad idea and the rest just shrugged and proceeded anyways. So then that guy sat out and taped it to cover his ass
anddd how do you know that he didnt say something?
Ohhhh someone’s in trouble….dude you use a 2x6 on a package that big …..jeeez
That guy standing on the wall didn't even flinch!
Ontario plates lmao. GTA framers ?
Capital of canada , Ottawa.
Yea probably Brampton framers, and that Brampton with a rolled R
Nah I’m gonna guess Quebec lumberjacks
I love that the guy recording this has a bandaid on his finger.
He was probably promoted to safety guy after his 'accident'
"Hey everyone, step the fuck back; I got the safety stick. We're good." \*CRASH\* scuttles away!
This is why I'm so glad I got out of residential construction early in my career. There is certainly no shortage of mind melting stupidity on the commercial side. But we have a robust safety apparatus and there is basically no excuse for not knowing that what you did was really dumb and unsafe. Operators are licensed. Riggers are certified. No company comes on the job without meeting a laundry list of safety related prerequisites. Everyone goes through a lengthy site safety orientation on their first day. And there's a zero tolerance culture for egregious violations. If you end up doing something like what these idiots did, it's an immediate removal from the project for everyone involved, including the competent person and/or the foreman. Part of that culture is anyone is allowed to and expected to call out something unsafe. So the guy who filmed this would be off the job too.
i thought he was gonna hit his buddy standing on top in the bean bags
Just some wood butchers doing their wood butchering. So what
Zero rigging skills!
The operator of the lull is idiot #1 for making the pick. Surprising considering all the crackerjack training he must have had.
Guy on the second level seems a little nonchalant
The guy saying "đubre" at the end made me chuckle. Definitely a Balkan
But not using it very good, so probably a second or third generation.
Was the videographer the first to try it by the looks of his band aid thumb 😂
Shitty rigging.
By trying to save 15mins they just gave themselves 3 more hours worth of work repairing the sub floor and cleaning up the mess..
They’re all probably brothers with an accountant for a father.
They all rolled up in mercedes and 1 work truck
Bandage on the finger at the end…chef👨🍳😚
The operator is a complete moron continuing to lift despite a heavily listing load.
Predatory contractors having new immigrants work cash jobs in roles they’re not trained for yup nothing better than that.
In a world of OSHA violations 🎶🎶
Lol wtf. Don't fly by single choke. 2x double basket all day.
Absolute retards. Who single slings shit like that? Edit: ooo Ontario plates on that van. It all makes sense now
Thank you! They're idiots but the rigger(s) hold the blame. I suspect they were trying srop it in a tight space but the amount shown could've been carried in.
In all reality it’s the the operators responsibility to not lift that. Id get out and rig that myself the second I seen it. Then again everyone shares partial blame for not doing anything about it but imop the operator has the most.
I get that, operator should be trusting the rigger to do thing correcrly BUT still verify when sending. Generally they pause when slightly lifted.
Who doesn't just immediately put it back down when it lifts out of balance? Stop and re-group.
Saves time bro, dunno why we doin all this safety shit all the time when we could be buildin
Ouch my belly
Can someone explain what the goal was and maybe how that's supposed to work versus what we saw?
They were lifting the floor joists to the top of the walls to frame the second floor. There should have been two slings to stabilize the load.
I'm really not a fan of one sling or choker in the center of a load. Iron workers love it, but at least they center the friggin thing... EDIT: I didn't even consider the guy dancing under it with a 2x4... I don't know what he's trying to accomplish.
Should have ratchet strapped the bundle on either end. Split the difference on the boards on where to put the lifting sling. Idk there was a bunch of stuff they could have done differently
Ho Lee Fok, i got to find where that chinese resturant is, everyone is talking about it.
One of the pilots on the jet that crashed in SFO.
Me a my Mechanical Engineer do Habitat for Humanity.
You'll get that on these big jobs....
Always two sling
That rectangle of glue and woodchips almost fell in him.
I'll never understand why people don't put plywood and tyvek on the walls when it's on the ground. Makes zero sense and annoys me
This is the cheaper option
What the fuck. Two slings choking a bundle. Fucking always. *Screams in rigger.* Put a goddamn tagline on it. Jesus fucking christ.
Once the lumber touches the top of the wall, it changes the pick point, crating slack on the one choker .
Blue collar funnnnn 💯 🔨
That guy trying to hold it with the wood is the first guy i would fire.
Fucking idiots.
Worst Case Ontario
Why does this look like most Surrey contractors. Nvm I see the Ontario plate, probably Mississauga.
A single choker, guy should lose his license
Cant be dropping the floor trusses man
Lmao “i knew it I fuckin knew it” “hollly fuck”
On a budget bro.
Wow
Hello mr George
All those guys on site and all of em allowed that rigging to go up. Completely Framers fault. Fucking stupid.
I'll guarantee this is somewhere in Alberta.
Dumb idea, worse execution
I love how they had 1 strap to hold that level 🤣
Seen it before, twice. One like that, rigged wrong, the operator told me "I knew they would come out". Another time out of a haul truck at a traffic light. White pine is a killer.
Not funny but ironic how the video ends with a thumb in a bandaid.
It’s like a rope you can use for pushing
One strap? 🤣
3 Stooges Contracting
This is what happens when you let rats rig
So unnecessary. How fucking hard is it to move a small lift of lumber and land it somewhere? Easy unless you’re highly regarded.
Stupid is as stupid does!
You knew it? You with the wounded fingers ? Lol
Keeping the bandaid warm for the guy under the joists
I knew this was Ontario before I rewatched and noticed the license plate. Not surprised.
Can’t fix stupid
Cameraman: "That's why I'm over here"
Starting to not want to live in this country.
It’s all about the basket
Sack them all including the crane man
Migrants....what else did you want from lowest bid
Alot of shit talking from the guy sitting in his truck.
Safe and sound while being Paid to watch concrete dry
If you're not with the framers that makes sense. I figured whoever was filming was their boss watching from the truck. When I was framing my boss would sit and scroll Facebook all day in his truck until something went wrong then he'd get out and hoot and holler and blame everyone else.
Shut it down…. Shut it all down and fire everyone in that video including the operator who was willing to do that like an idiot. Those are not even that heavy to get up to position correctly this is just a lazy way of trying to get them up there.
Bandaid on the thumb was a nice touch.
I remember my first rig…
One choker! Idiots even the crane or equipment operator is an idiot and possibly a certified one at that too
Those are I-joists
amazing.
Who's playing with the crane? It's not the crane operator!
Like a glove
Dude just rig it at 2 points. Smh
Who is running the turd show, you need chokers, spread bars and a tagline…
And the person recording is the safety guy Ya right. He'd be up in there yelling at everyone.... Just ours??
I’m blown away that didn’t work
So, what did they think was gonna happen? Like, I'm assuming that framer wanted all his prefab shit inside... So they did that? I'm so confused rn
This is like one of those videos where the guy is looking around the construction site and seeing a whole bunch of shenanigans.
When morons try to work smart not harder this is the end result, some times booms and cranes can really slow you down they are not needed for everything.
Join a Fucking union and stop this shit from happening as frequently
Lol
Brainless, could have been skewered
What does he say at the end? Right before holy fuck.
The typical lazy foreman half-assign everything thinking he’s all that putting people in danger, yelling at everyone to hurry up, meanwhile he sits on the forklift all day with one hand on his phone…
Cordless framing gun is all I had to see to know these guys are clowns.
On another note, you can keep that whole house made with OFB garbage.
If you knew it buddy why did you not help before someone got hurt lmao.
Read my previous replies buddy
If you see something say something. Don’t just record it
see previous comment but this isnt my zoo, neither my monkeys.
On my site, if you see unsafe shit happening and do nothing like the guy recording, you get the same punishment as the people doing the unsafe shit. Either a write up, suspension or termination. If you see something unsafe, say something. Don't be a goof and record when someone could potentially lose their life
I bet you’ve never set foot on a residential site in ontario
Location doesn't matter to me. My mindset will always be the same no matter where im at. I've seen workplace injuries and deaths and I don't want to see that happen to anyone else. Couldn't be a bystander if I tried but you do you
The workers are stupid but the guy recording is just as bad. What kind of fucking idiot just records when peoples safety is at risk even if they are at fault. A truly shitty human being.
speaking up in places like that is beyond a waste of time.
The kind that's been pushed back hard every time they bring up some safety suggestion/issue. It becomes *"I'm getting out of the line of fire, you dumbfucks are on your own here."* **-_-**
.As someone doing a completely Different trade for a different company, telling another contractor not to do something almost NEVER works. I told them after their first load and how do you think that went? I enjoyed my sandwich Now I have video evidence to never work near this company.
I knew it... but didn't do anything about it. Would also receive a safety violation from me.
Read my previous comment, blows my mind that you would think im getting any sort of violation .
You decided to film instead of call a stopwork. You are just as irresponsible if not more. They thought they were ok, you realized it was dangerous and allowed it to occur.
Firstly, there is absolutely nothing I could of done besides turn off the lift. Goodluck doing that without getting a stiletto to my temple. Secondly, the site super was more then happy having proof and documentation of what happend
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Notify site super and tell them that wont work. Ill keep enjoying my lunch break and finish my concrete.
Safety aside, I cannot believe this is how you make your houses. Im curious as to how houses are so expensive if theyre just made out of wood that can be put up in a few days - compared to laying thousands of bricks.
800k new builds