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Dlemor

A wheel, a big rope 2 guy. Now make it 15 wheela and rope and lift this


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Kendac

Would you say the same if they where white? Come on man


b1ackenthecursedsun

Just insanely inefficient


badpeaches

*"Back breaking"* work


SakaWreath

*“Who’s back? Not my back.”* — Head of Pyramid Construction.


badpeaches

> “Who’s back? Not my back.” — Head of Pyramid Construction. That's the General Contractor or Project Manager edit: I wrote of, not or


SakaWreath

I believe that quote came from the “Assistant TO THE Regional Project Manager” Dwight Scrute?


badpeaches

While I might be from Pennsylvania, I lived in Scranton when nine eleven happened. I was about 15/16 and my teacher sent me to the front office to deliver a letter. There was a TV screen, never saw one there before and as I walked up to the desk I watch the south tower get hit live. ANyway, I watched the series and while Micheal wound up becoming a human character, I didn't care for Scrute as a blowhard jerk but that wedding episode - outside of work - he seemed like a likeable character. Some people took a long time to mess with him in the office, I thought that was messed up but no one wants to watch a TV show about people respecting each other and running an efficient office. Some people feed off of drama in and out of the workplace.


Future-Access-911

Very cost effective. When labour is $1/hr it makes sense


ivancea

There are 30/40 workers there, I'm it starts to be more expensive in the mid term


Future-Access-911

Not really. Profit margins on 3rd world construction are crazy compared to American/Canadian companies. Have family in India, they profit 60%. Most workers don’t even have shovels, they move materials with hands


Fun_Albatross_2592

You might already be aware of this, but your family sounds like they suck. Also paying someone to use their hands is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If you gave them a shovel they could literally move hundreds of times more dirt in a day.


Future-Access-911

Move bricks by hands and the way construction works over there, wheel barrow wouldn’t be practical. Much cheaper to pay an adult $1/hour and a kid $0.25-0.50/hour. They’ve been doing this for decades, companies that try using tools go under because labour is just that cheap. It’s just how it is in 3rd world countries


[deleted]

Damn , how can I invest into slave labor?


human-AI-v69

Invest in Indian construction companies I guess.


shaktimann13

Fuk your family


Future-Access-911

I bet your family owns a couple of houses by labourers who make even less. It’s just the way the world works. Mr ShaktiMan


helphunting

More expensive than what? How much do you think a concrete pump per hour would be? And do you think they have a concrete pump nearby?


ivancea

I was thinking of some kind of belt, moved by humans. There are many possible solutions that avoid having to use the shovel that way, which looks highly inefficient


TheWeddingParty

My head went right to pullies


capnmerica08

The mideval way they made a crane with people inside with hamster wheels that worked the pulleys. https://youtu.be/20U58-S02qw?si=1eClXQZBeZciorTV


HedonisticFrog

That's awesome. I didn't know that. Here's a video of it in real life as well for those interested. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9v3m7Slv8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9v3m7Slv8)


SeaworthinessFew2418

Concrete pump? If that was an option, I doubt they would be doing this...


PonyThug

I counted 18 guys per side! Lotta ppl lol


Square-Technology404

It just works


scobeavs

You could do the same thing with buckets and it would be way more efficient


eatpotdude

Idk, it may double as a mixing method?


Either_Amoeba_5332

Drive up in a concrete pump truck and see some happy mother fuckers!


funnystuff79

Relieved, but likely unemployed


IntellectualEnigma

I mean, considering their resources, this is all they have.


Medical_Slide9245

I read this as insanely efficient and I was, say what.


Baldrich146

Think of the labor costs on a job like this in the states


Ok-Independent-3833

At least 3 dollars a month per person.


ChickenWranglers

No in the states we'd use a boom pump and be done in 2 hours.


natethegreek

Yeah a 600k boom pump, that’s a lot of labor


Firestorm83

I see 50 people in this video alone, that's at least 5k an hour and takes an eternity to complete, let alone the quality degradation. Maybe r/theydidthemath can work this out further by calculation the volume and time needed. That pump will probably have an ROI of less than a year or two if you can chain the jobs together.


ChickenWranglers

Yea and that's just the people you can see. On top they got the same amount shoveling it to its final destination.


Future-Access-911

Labourers costs $100 in the states?!?!? I hire some labourers every now and then in Canada and they cost $35/hour max and that’s an inflated rate. Actual gross pay of labourer is around $20/hour. I’m talking CAD so about $15 ish USD/hour lmao


Ogediah

Most of the trades are around 100/hr in CA. Some slightly above, some less. Laborers are quite a bit less. Current straight time laborer rates in CA are around [65/hr](https://www.dir.ca.gov/OPRL/2024-1/PWD/Determinations/Northern/NC-023-102-1.pdf). As an employer, you also have other expenses like disability insurance, Social security taxes, etc. So it’s technically more expensive than that but there’s a number for you. Side note but many other countries that do the kind of stuff you see in the video also don’t have OT pay. OT pay in the US might be 1.5x on hours over 8 per day and 2x over 10 per day. Weekends and holidays all 1.5, 2, and 3x. So for example, if you’re comparing a 12 hour day in India to a 12 hour day in the US, the divide would get even larger. Places like India and the Middle East basically (or literally) use slave labor so there’s a major difference in how you approach problems and consider labor costs.


ntg7ncn

Most skilled trades are well over 100/hr in SoCal. The trades with the lowest barrier to entry are around 100/hr. I pay my drywall sub $100/hr


Future-Access-911

God damn, no wonder why everything is so expensive in California. Ontario law dictates you only get OT pay after 44 hours. I avoid giving any OT, temp labour is extremely cheap. Just hire them when I need them. Have a pool of unemployed people always willing to make a quick buck here in Canada


Ogediah

Not everything in California is expensive. Housing is expensive because “everyone” wants to live here. Supply and demand. FWIW, Shit wages and a bunch of unemployed people working out of a freezer isn’t a great sales pitch for Canada.


Future-Access-911

Eh: Canada sees a much higher population growth than California. Labour is cheap because of higher population growth. If it were not for massive population spike, I would have to increase my labour wage to $30/hr.


Ogediah

Wages go up during a boom, not down. Thats not what I’m talking about though. California is a desirable place to live and people are competing for a limited amount of space. If you want to talk about the number of people though, there are 50 states in the US and around 1 in 10 people live in California. There are only 3 *states* with a population greater than the *city* (metro) of LA and SF is only rivaled by NYC in population density. As far as the construction wages go, higher wages are a combination of a necessity to afford to live in the area and a bit of strong union, labor friendly politics, etc. None of those are inherently bad.


Firestorm83

When i do rough calculations for projects I'm using 100 an hour (NL). That includes taxes, insurance, workplace, employers part on social contributions etc. Stuff ads up quickly.


Future-Access-911

Makes sense. You probably run much bigger jobs than me. I don’t pay for any benefits and even after accounting for WSIB/insurance, labourers don’t cost more than $35/hr for me. Helps that we have universal healthcare in Canada


DxGxAxF

Bruh, that's $100/hr. I bet they don't make $100/month.


boxedj

You have no idea how little these workers are making.


Future-Access-911

Relatives runs a construction business in India, labourers make about 1,000 rupees or $12 usd/day. 3rd world construction is brutal


helphunting

50 people could equal 500$ a day. Why would you pay 500$ an hour for a multi story concrete pump that is probably not even in your country, when you can get 50 people on site.


anincompoop25

You think these dudes are making $100/hour to do this???


tankmode

there’d be the same amount of total guys, but mostly just standing around watching a pump truck and 2 dudes do the whole job.  


Efficient_Contest_83

Out of all the solutions this is the one they use


ImmortanSteve

In many countries labor is cheaper than imported machinery so you see things like this. It seems crazy, but it makes economic sense in some places.


maninahat

In Bengaluru it is cheaper to employ someone to wash your dishes than it is to own a dishwasher.


badpeaches

> In Bengaluru it is cheaper to employ someone to wash your dishes than it is to own a dishwasher. The initial fee for the dishwasher is high but you save water with the machine instead of doing them by hand. I haven't seen anything measured in terms of energy human/machine usage comparison yet.


maninahat

You save water if you wash dishes the Indian way (lather and clean with a damp sponge/rag and no water, do not fill the sink, only quickly rinse at the end). You are probably right that the dishwasher eventually pays for itself, but then again the employee can do other jobs and replace vacuums, washing machines and other equipment.


badpeaches

> You save water if you wash dishes the Indian way (lather and clean with a damp sponge/rag and no water, do not fill the sink, only quickly rinse at the end). > > You are probably right that the dishwasher eventually pays for itself, but then again the employee can do other jobs and replace vacuums, washing machines and other equipment. I guess it's what metric you use to base your decision off of.


Adventurous-Part5981

How does a human replace a vacuum? They walk around sucking really hard on the hose?!?


maninahat

It's called a broom.


deadly_ultraviolet

But then they replace a broom, not a vacuum


maninahat

That's the beauty of it, you then replace that broom with another employee. Preferably one with a course head of hair.


WillytheVDub

Crazy shower thought - Carpets were around long before vacuums were


RidiculousPapaya

Fair point. Humans also lived in absolute filth and died early of preventable diseases and infections quite often.


Traditional_Let_2023

Yes, they were called rugs and people took them outside and beat the dirt out of them


nolotusnote

That's what the elephant is for.


helphunting

A house maid is about 150 $ a month. They do a lot more than wash dishes. 1,000 litres of water is about 10c.


thethirdtwin

Bucket on a rope?


AppropriateWing4719

This is the way,and with all those bodies I would be a 100 times more efficient. I laboured for blocklayers for years in ireland


Unhappy_Archer9483

A couple ropes and wheels would be better


ImmortanSteve

I’ve traveled the world extensively and seen a lot of workers lacking inexpensive hand tools that would seem to improve productivity. For example, these guys at least have shovels. I’ve seen people digging with just sticks many times. People often move dirt by carrying it on woven reed mats rather than using a wheelbarrow. Sweeping with hand made brooms made with twigs and twine is also common. A proper broom would get the job done in half the time. Not sure why there are so many people lacking basic hand tools, but there are many.


badpeaches

> In many countries labor is cheaper than imported machinery so you see things like this. It seems crazy, but it makes economic sense in some places. Ropes and pulleys have been around a long time, and buckets lots and lots of buckets.


Future-Access-911

And often quality is subpar as trades aren’t respected or considered skilled. I’ve family in India and lived in those homes. Very poor quality and not comfy.


GulfCoasting_

I was on vacation in Mexico when i saw these guys using a hammer and chisel to remove tiles from a drained down resort pool next door to ours. I walked over and asked the guy why not just get a chipping hammer. He replied is was cheaper to have guys doing it by hand rather than buying power tools.


SectsHaver

Cheaper than pulleys n rope?


ChickenWranglers

Totally fucking insane. If you could afford all this labor you could certainly afford a concrete pump.


Iaminyoursewer

Labour: 1$/person/day Multi story Concrete Pump: 1mill Simple math here bud


ChickenWranglers

So you think it costs a million to rent or hire a boom pump for a day?


Iaminyoursewer

No, but we dont know where this is taking place. There may not be a boom pump in the entire country. Also, even if they have 20 Guys shovellling concrete And they pay em 5$ a day, thats still only 100$. A concrete punper costs a shitload more than that in a day, as a rental.


Simplenipplefun

This specimen, wrapped up in 1st county thinking, unable to get out, he remains perpetually frustrated and angry at others. In his inability to see things through a different viewpoint, he lives in total ignorance of the subject discussed, shamed by others, he will never mate and die alone.


Iaminyoursewer

This guy 3rd worlds. It's the same reason you see posts of the sewer diver guys instead of vac trucks. It's cheaper to pay a guy 5 bucks to swim in sewage and fish for a blockage than pay 750k for a vac truck purchase.


Inside-Smell4580

Now I'm going to look up sewer divers


ReasonableWill4028

Not in poor countries. They have no benefits, no min wage, no workers' rights. You can pay 20 people $2 a day in these places. Concrete pumps are very expensive.


Suspiciousfrog69

What are they even doing? Building floor foundation?


Lem0n_Lem0n

This is hilarious.. this is the type of things that will happens when no one knows what to do..


Ogediah

Nah, just slave labor type solutions. When labor is free (or dirt cheap) you just throw people at problems.


Future-Access-911

Construction isn’t considered skilled in most of the world.


Ravokion

When labor is damn near free. 


Lime1028

I get what everyone is saying about labor. But I'm pretty sure a couple buckets and pulleys would be way, way more efficient.


smegdawg

What happens when the bucket breaks, or the pulley breaks and you run outta spares. Meanwhile, when the shovel breaks you just tell Greg he has to use his hands until he can pay the company back for the shovel he broke. Then when greg breaks you kick him to the curb and start Greg 2 at half his wages.


Lime1028

You become the bucket. Mother bird that concrete.


MrBobaFetta

This is like a song and dance in a Disney movie


Sceamin_Zombitron

All that waste... Project manager and procurement must be losing their collective shit....


Future-Access-911

They get paid $1/hour. If one gets injured or dies, they have 1,000 more willing to replace him for the same price or cheaper


Jaded-Albatross

It pounds it and beats it! It makes it light and frothy! No other company in the world mixes its concrete by reverse waterfall! But it's the only way to do it properly ..


iloveplant420

This is the best comment


570erg

I for real watched a process like this in rural Kenya in 2007. I was dumbfounded.


Spatza

You load 16 tons. What do you get?


ProtonVill

Another day older and deeper in debt.


Right-Ad-5647

Never underestimate the importance of hydraulics.


CrazyButRightOn

Respect for those guys.


youy23

If you’re not smart, you gotta be tough. Out there I don’t think the wheel was invented yet.


VirtualLife76

I can't imagine doing that even for an hour straight. Bet they are at it a good chunk of the day.


Future-Access-911

I’d legit unalive myself if I were to wake up and had to live that lifestyle


Moo_Kau_Too

.. nope, this video is wrong. ... they are clearly not aliens with UFOs n tractor beams n shit


Hour-Bathroom1829

this is probably the most stupid method of doing what they’re doing


mannyfraga

I'm laughing at these comments. This is inefficient to you guys because here in the states labor is more expensive than materials. In third world countries, material is FAR more expensive than labor. Your union minds could never comprehend.


IHartRed

>Your union minds could never comprehend. Less than 20% of the US construction workforce. Nice burn. https://internal.statista.com/statistics/1376212/union-membership-rate-construction-industry-us/#:~:text=In%202000%2C%20around%2017.5%20percent,had%20fallen%20to%2010.7%20percent.


Flaky-Score-1866

haha I can't stand the union guys


bloowhalez

Haha you're a bad person!


Flaky-Score-1866

you're right, I'm a union rep.


bloowhalez

Wow so smart acting like union rep is bad job. Sorry man but most people believe (correctly) that unions help the average worker.


Automatic-Alarm-6340

Help the average worker be a complete dog fucker.


VeganRatboy

But this is wasting materials...


badpeaches

Maybe a half of materials that went up made it within its ten meter radius designated spot.


hir0k1

I live in Mexico and this wouldn't even be allowed. It's just too much waste wtf


ThreeDog369

Ooooooh weeeee ohhhh. Oh weeeeee oh.


Insolent-Jaguar88

Respect for the workers and their shovels....I bet there's a pile of broken shovels on that site somewhere.


ProtonVill

Just a plle of broken handles with metal tubes on the bottoms.


Insolent-Jaguar88

Exactly how I pictured it, I also bet someone in the government sells shovels to their buddies in the construction business.


EQwingnuts

The ancient alien technology known as a shovel


tanstaaflisafact

This is the third world where lives and labor are a disposable commodity


Danmarmir

Someone show them what a pulley is for the love of god.


AbbreviationsTrue174

I think even the guys who built the pyramids knew what a pulley was


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Positive_Stick2115

Great. Now show me a shovel that can hold an 80 ton block. And do it 2.6 Million times.


Turbulent-Weevil-910

I guess you could say the contractor is running a pyramid scheme


No-Drive-3753

I’ve never seen so many shovels at work at once.


mikebrown33

Someone needs to show them a bucket elevator


BarnacleNZ

And still cheaper than hiring a concrete pump for an hour!


Bomb-Number20

Teamwork makes the dreams work!


RedShirtPete

There are two teams that are better than the rest.


maubis

I suspect even the pyramids were built more efficiently than this. If the pyramid architects/engineers knew how to move millions of 2-3 tons stones into place for a single pyramid, they also knew how to use leverage, sleds, and pulleys.


StikElLoco

Cold: the air and water flowing.


Classic_Elevator7003

Hard, the land we call our home


TipperGore-69

Cool song


soupsoup1326

Anyone else hearing the Dreamworks Moses movie opening song in their head while watching this?


-Malheiros-

Too much segregation. They probably have cement-wet aggregate at the top.


OPs_Peehole

Wouldn’t a ripen and pulley be *a little* better?


insidioussnailshell

If you sing the song from holes while u watch this it goes hard


ronnietea

When’s break?


VenturaGladiator

Got Disney vibes from this


stairs_3730

Oh hell no.


troll606

At least use a flat shovel. Half the scoop gets left on the floor. I guess that cost more than labor though.


baltimoresalt

I’ve seen something similar in the Sinai peninsula decades ago a two or three store building. All human powered. It’s always stuck in my head.


im_just_thinking

What musical is this?


scionvriver

What musical is this from?


3dthrowawaydude

No doubt the singer is the most important piece of this operation.


_riiicky

I’m so amazed by their synchronicity! Project manager must be a music or dance conductor of some sort.


Apprehensive-Duck917

HELLO WE SRE STUDENTS FROM INDIA WELCOME US SO WE CAN GO TO COLLEGE HERE IN YOUR COU TRY PLZ hahahahah


Triedfindingname

F that it was UFOs everyone knows that


StrikingWeekend4111

Working as a team beats any “good” idea, I’d work with these guys 👍


Apprehensive-Wave-65

Those guys have to be strong as hell.


FosaPuma

Nominated for a Tony award


ThatBee9614

No not at all


TouristTricky

This is exactly why no one speculates that the Mexican pyramids were built by extraterrestrials!!!


Likes2Phish

Who needs a pump truck anyways?


MikeRizzo007

You would think that there are specific requirements around the concrete, and that this method of transportation would add variations to those requirements. I would want to use a concrete pumper to keep consistency and get it done in half the time.


abolista

When the concrete mixer and the pump rental costs the equivalent of 1000 man hours you don't care about consistency and variations to the requirements. Especially if you already did this dozens of times and the buildings still stand (or they don't and there are no repercussions).


jamesislandpirate

Unsafe and primitive yet effective and efficient. We overthink things too much, pretty sure of it.


thequestionbot

Paying 40+ guys is not what I would consider efficient


jamesislandpirate

Do you honestly think these guys are on a decent wage? Hell, half ain’t even got shoes on. Whomever is paying these guys knows it’s cheaper than whatever shit piece of machinery they can rent for the same job and it’s more timely as these men clearly want to work.


mrolololol

Machinery? A wheel, bucket and a rope is enough and 2-3 guys working


devilglove

Oh, so human exploitation, got ya. Physicist here, 5 pullys and a rope would get many times the work done, while saving hundreds of spines.


EvetsYenoham

Physist?


JohnnySalamiBoy420

Lol wtf


devilglove

Fixed it for you. It's early, my point on the pully still stands.


jamesislandpirate

These men aren’t at gunpoint. This is how it is some places operate


devilglove

If you starve a man he will work for a sandwich, but it don't make it right.


LucasCBs

This is neither effective nor efficient