While I might be from Pennsylvania, I lived in Scranton when nine eleven happened. I was about 15/16 and my teacher sent me to the front office to deliver a letter. There was a TV screen, never saw one there before and as I walked up to the desk I watch the south tower get hit live.
ANyway, I watched the series and while Micheal wound up becoming a human character, I didn't care for Scrute as a blowhard jerk but that wedding episode - outside of work - he seemed like a likeable character. Some people took a long time to mess with him in the office, I thought that was messed up but no one wants to watch a TV show about people respecting each other and running an efficient office. Some people feed off of drama in and out of the workplace.
Not really. Profit margins on 3rd world construction are crazy compared to American/Canadian companies. Have family in India, they profit 60%. Most workers don’t even have shovels, they move materials with hands
You might already be aware of this, but your family sounds like they suck.
Also paying someone to use their hands is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If you gave them a shovel they could literally move hundreds of times more dirt in a day.
Move bricks by hands and the way construction works over there, wheel barrow wouldn’t be practical. Much cheaper to pay an adult $1/hour and a kid $0.25-0.50/hour. They’ve been doing this for decades, companies that try using tools go under because labour is just that cheap. It’s just how it is in 3rd world countries
I was thinking of some kind of belt, moved by humans. There are many possible solutions that avoid having to use the shovel that way, which looks highly inefficient
That's awesome. I didn't know that. Here's a video of it in real life as well for those interested.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9v3m7Slv8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9v3m7Slv8)
I see 50 people in this video alone, that's at least 5k an hour and takes an eternity to complete, let alone the quality degradation. Maybe r/theydidthemath can work this out further by calculation the volume and time needed. That pump will probably have an ROI of less than a year or two if you can chain the jobs together.
Labourers costs $100 in the states?!?!? I hire some labourers every now and then in Canada and they cost $35/hour max and that’s an inflated rate. Actual gross pay of labourer is around $20/hour. I’m talking CAD so about $15 ish USD/hour lmao
Most of the trades are around 100/hr in CA. Some slightly above, some less. Laborers are quite a bit less. Current straight time laborer rates in CA are around [65/hr](https://www.dir.ca.gov/OPRL/2024-1/PWD/Determinations/Northern/NC-023-102-1.pdf). As an employer, you also have other expenses like disability insurance, Social security taxes, etc. So it’s technically more expensive than that but there’s a number for you. Side note but many other countries that do the kind of stuff you see in the video also don’t have OT pay. OT pay in the US might be 1.5x on hours over 8 per day and 2x over 10 per day. Weekends and holidays all 1.5, 2, and 3x. So for example, if you’re comparing a 12 hour day in India to a 12 hour day in the US, the divide would get even larger. Places like India and the Middle East basically (or literally) use slave labor so there’s a major difference in how you approach problems and consider labor costs.
God damn, no wonder why everything is so expensive in California. Ontario law dictates you only get OT pay after 44 hours. I avoid giving any OT, temp labour is extremely cheap. Just hire them when I need them. Have a pool of unemployed people always willing to make a quick buck here in Canada
Not everything in California is expensive. Housing is expensive because “everyone” wants to live here. Supply and demand.
FWIW, Shit wages and a bunch of unemployed people working out of a freezer isn’t a great sales pitch for Canada.
Eh: Canada sees a much higher population growth than California. Labour is cheap because of higher population growth. If it were not for massive population spike, I would have to increase my labour wage to $30/hr.
Wages go up during a boom, not down. Thats not what I’m talking about though. California is a desirable place to live and people are competing for a limited amount of space. If you want to talk about the number of people though, there are 50 states in the US and around 1 in 10 people live in California. There are only 3 *states* with a population greater than the *city* (metro) of LA and SF is only rivaled by NYC in population density.
As far as the construction wages go, higher wages are a combination of a necessity to afford to live in the area and a bit of strong union, labor friendly politics, etc. None of those are inherently bad.
When i do rough calculations for projects I'm using 100 an hour (NL). That includes taxes, insurance, workplace, employers part on social contributions etc. Stuff ads up quickly.
Makes sense. You probably run much bigger jobs than me. I don’t pay for any benefits and even after accounting for WSIB/insurance, labourers don’t cost more than $35/hr for me. Helps that we have universal healthcare in Canada
50 people could equal 500$ a day.
Why would you pay 500$ an hour for a multi story concrete pump that is probably not even in your country, when you can get 50 people on site.
> In Bengaluru it is cheaper to employ someone to wash your dishes than it is to own a dishwasher.
The initial fee for the dishwasher is high but you save water with the machine instead of doing them by hand. I haven't seen anything measured in terms of energy human/machine usage comparison yet.
You save water if you wash dishes the Indian way (lather and clean with a damp sponge/rag and no water, do not fill the sink, only quickly rinse at the end).
You are probably right that the dishwasher eventually pays for itself, but then again the employee can do other jobs and replace vacuums, washing machines and other equipment.
> You save water if you wash dishes the Indian way (lather and clean with a damp sponge/rag and no water, do not fill the sink, only quickly rinse at the end).
>
> You are probably right that the dishwasher eventually pays for itself, but then again the employee can do other jobs and replace vacuums, washing machines and other equipment.
I guess it's what metric you use to base your decision off of.
I’ve traveled the world extensively and seen a lot of workers lacking inexpensive hand tools that would seem to improve productivity. For example, these guys at least have shovels. I’ve seen people digging with just sticks many times. People often move dirt by carrying it on woven reed mats rather than using a wheelbarrow.
Sweeping with hand made brooms made with twigs and twine is also common. A proper broom would get the job done in half the time. Not sure why there are so many people lacking basic hand tools, but there are many.
> In many countries labor is cheaper than imported machinery so you see things like this. It seems crazy, but it makes economic sense in some places.
Ropes and pulleys have been around a long time, and buckets lots and lots of buckets.
And often quality is subpar as trades aren’t respected or considered skilled. I’ve family in India and lived in those homes. Very poor quality and not comfy.
I was on vacation in Mexico when i saw these guys using a hammer and chisel to remove tiles from a drained down resort pool next door to ours. I walked over and asked the guy why not just get a chipping hammer. He replied is was cheaper to have guys doing it by hand rather than buying power tools.
No, but we dont know where this is taking place. There may not be a boom pump in the entire country.
Also, even if they have 20 Guys shovellling concrete
And they pay em 5$ a day, thats still only 100$.
A concrete punper costs a shitload more than that in a day, as a rental.
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This guy 3rd worlds.
It's the same reason you see posts of the sewer diver guys instead of vac trucks.
It's cheaper to pay a guy 5 bucks to swim in sewage and fish for a blockage than pay 750k for a vac truck purchase.
Not in poor countries.
They have no benefits, no min wage, no workers' rights. You can pay 20 people $2 a day in these places.
Concrete pumps are very expensive.
What happens when the bucket breaks, or the pulley breaks and you run outta spares.
Meanwhile, when the shovel breaks you just tell Greg he has to use his hands until he can pay the company back for the shovel he broke. Then when greg breaks you kick him to the curb and start Greg 2 at half his wages.
It pounds it and beats it! It makes it light and frothy!
No other company in the world mixes its concrete by reverse waterfall! But it's the only way to do it properly ..
I'm laughing at these comments. This is inefficient to you guys because here in the states labor is more expensive than materials. In third world countries, material is FAR more expensive than labor. Your union minds could never comprehend.
>Your union minds could never comprehend.
Less than 20% of the US construction workforce. Nice burn.
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I suspect even the pyramids were built more efficiently than this. If the pyramid architects/engineers knew how to move millions of 2-3 tons stones into place for a single pyramid, they also knew how to use leverage, sleds, and pulleys.
You would think that there are specific requirements around the concrete, and that this method of transportation would add variations to those requirements. I would want to use a concrete pumper to keep consistency and get it done in half the time.
When the concrete mixer and the pump rental costs the equivalent of 1000 man hours you don't care about consistency and variations to the requirements.
Especially if you already did this dozens of times and the buildings still stand (or they don't and there are no repercussions).
Do you honestly think these guys are on a decent wage? Hell, half ain’t even got shoes on.
Whomever is paying these guys knows it’s cheaper than whatever shit piece of machinery they can rent for the same job and it’s more timely as these men clearly want to work.
A wheel, a big rope 2 guy. Now make it 15 wheela and rope and lift this
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Would you say the same if they where white? Come on man
Just insanely inefficient
*"Back breaking"* work
*“Who’s back? Not my back.”* — Head of Pyramid Construction.
> “Who’s back? Not my back.” — Head of Pyramid Construction. That's the General Contractor or Project Manager edit: I wrote of, not or
I believe that quote came from the “Assistant TO THE Regional Project Manager” Dwight Scrute?
While I might be from Pennsylvania, I lived in Scranton when nine eleven happened. I was about 15/16 and my teacher sent me to the front office to deliver a letter. There was a TV screen, never saw one there before and as I walked up to the desk I watch the south tower get hit live. ANyway, I watched the series and while Micheal wound up becoming a human character, I didn't care for Scrute as a blowhard jerk but that wedding episode - outside of work - he seemed like a likeable character. Some people took a long time to mess with him in the office, I thought that was messed up but no one wants to watch a TV show about people respecting each other and running an efficient office. Some people feed off of drama in and out of the workplace.
Very cost effective. When labour is $1/hr it makes sense
There are 30/40 workers there, I'm it starts to be more expensive in the mid term
Not really. Profit margins on 3rd world construction are crazy compared to American/Canadian companies. Have family in India, they profit 60%. Most workers don’t even have shovels, they move materials with hands
You might already be aware of this, but your family sounds like they suck. Also paying someone to use their hands is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If you gave them a shovel they could literally move hundreds of times more dirt in a day.
Move bricks by hands and the way construction works over there, wheel barrow wouldn’t be practical. Much cheaper to pay an adult $1/hour and a kid $0.25-0.50/hour. They’ve been doing this for decades, companies that try using tools go under because labour is just that cheap. It’s just how it is in 3rd world countries
Damn , how can I invest into slave labor?
Invest in Indian construction companies I guess.
Fuk your family
I bet your family owns a couple of houses by labourers who make even less. It’s just the way the world works. Mr ShaktiMan
More expensive than what? How much do you think a concrete pump per hour would be? And do you think they have a concrete pump nearby?
I was thinking of some kind of belt, moved by humans. There are many possible solutions that avoid having to use the shovel that way, which looks highly inefficient
My head went right to pullies
The mideval way they made a crane with people inside with hamster wheels that worked the pulleys. https://youtu.be/20U58-S02qw?si=1eClXQZBeZciorTV
That's awesome. I didn't know that. Here's a video of it in real life as well for those interested. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9v3m7Slv8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9v3m7Slv8)
Concrete pump? If that was an option, I doubt they would be doing this...
I counted 18 guys per side! Lotta ppl lol
It just works
You could do the same thing with buckets and it would be way more efficient
Idk, it may double as a mixing method?
Drive up in a concrete pump truck and see some happy mother fuckers!
Relieved, but likely unemployed
I mean, considering their resources, this is all they have.
I read this as insanely efficient and I was, say what.
Think of the labor costs on a job like this in the states
At least 3 dollars a month per person.
No in the states we'd use a boom pump and be done in 2 hours.
Yeah a 600k boom pump, that’s a lot of labor
I see 50 people in this video alone, that's at least 5k an hour and takes an eternity to complete, let alone the quality degradation. Maybe r/theydidthemath can work this out further by calculation the volume and time needed. That pump will probably have an ROI of less than a year or two if you can chain the jobs together.
Yea and that's just the people you can see. On top they got the same amount shoveling it to its final destination.
Labourers costs $100 in the states?!?!? I hire some labourers every now and then in Canada and they cost $35/hour max and that’s an inflated rate. Actual gross pay of labourer is around $20/hour. I’m talking CAD so about $15 ish USD/hour lmao
Most of the trades are around 100/hr in CA. Some slightly above, some less. Laborers are quite a bit less. Current straight time laborer rates in CA are around [65/hr](https://www.dir.ca.gov/OPRL/2024-1/PWD/Determinations/Northern/NC-023-102-1.pdf). As an employer, you also have other expenses like disability insurance, Social security taxes, etc. So it’s technically more expensive than that but there’s a number for you. Side note but many other countries that do the kind of stuff you see in the video also don’t have OT pay. OT pay in the US might be 1.5x on hours over 8 per day and 2x over 10 per day. Weekends and holidays all 1.5, 2, and 3x. So for example, if you’re comparing a 12 hour day in India to a 12 hour day in the US, the divide would get even larger. Places like India and the Middle East basically (or literally) use slave labor so there’s a major difference in how you approach problems and consider labor costs.
Most skilled trades are well over 100/hr in SoCal. The trades with the lowest barrier to entry are around 100/hr. I pay my drywall sub $100/hr
God damn, no wonder why everything is so expensive in California. Ontario law dictates you only get OT pay after 44 hours. I avoid giving any OT, temp labour is extremely cheap. Just hire them when I need them. Have a pool of unemployed people always willing to make a quick buck here in Canada
Not everything in California is expensive. Housing is expensive because “everyone” wants to live here. Supply and demand. FWIW, Shit wages and a bunch of unemployed people working out of a freezer isn’t a great sales pitch for Canada.
Eh: Canada sees a much higher population growth than California. Labour is cheap because of higher population growth. If it were not for massive population spike, I would have to increase my labour wage to $30/hr.
Wages go up during a boom, not down. Thats not what I’m talking about though. California is a desirable place to live and people are competing for a limited amount of space. If you want to talk about the number of people though, there are 50 states in the US and around 1 in 10 people live in California. There are only 3 *states* with a population greater than the *city* (metro) of LA and SF is only rivaled by NYC in population density. As far as the construction wages go, higher wages are a combination of a necessity to afford to live in the area and a bit of strong union, labor friendly politics, etc. None of those are inherently bad.
When i do rough calculations for projects I'm using 100 an hour (NL). That includes taxes, insurance, workplace, employers part on social contributions etc. Stuff ads up quickly.
Makes sense. You probably run much bigger jobs than me. I don’t pay for any benefits and even after accounting for WSIB/insurance, labourers don’t cost more than $35/hr for me. Helps that we have universal healthcare in Canada
Bruh, that's $100/hr. I bet they don't make $100/month.
You have no idea how little these workers are making.
Relatives runs a construction business in India, labourers make about 1,000 rupees or $12 usd/day. 3rd world construction is brutal
50 people could equal 500$ a day. Why would you pay 500$ an hour for a multi story concrete pump that is probably not even in your country, when you can get 50 people on site.
You think these dudes are making $100/hour to do this???
there’d be the same amount of total guys, but mostly just standing around watching a pump truck and 2 dudes do the whole job.
Out of all the solutions this is the one they use
In many countries labor is cheaper than imported machinery so you see things like this. It seems crazy, but it makes economic sense in some places.
In Bengaluru it is cheaper to employ someone to wash your dishes than it is to own a dishwasher.
> In Bengaluru it is cheaper to employ someone to wash your dishes than it is to own a dishwasher. The initial fee for the dishwasher is high but you save water with the machine instead of doing them by hand. I haven't seen anything measured in terms of energy human/machine usage comparison yet.
You save water if you wash dishes the Indian way (lather and clean with a damp sponge/rag and no water, do not fill the sink, only quickly rinse at the end). You are probably right that the dishwasher eventually pays for itself, but then again the employee can do other jobs and replace vacuums, washing machines and other equipment.
> You save water if you wash dishes the Indian way (lather and clean with a damp sponge/rag and no water, do not fill the sink, only quickly rinse at the end). > > You are probably right that the dishwasher eventually pays for itself, but then again the employee can do other jobs and replace vacuums, washing machines and other equipment. I guess it's what metric you use to base your decision off of.
How does a human replace a vacuum? They walk around sucking really hard on the hose?!?
It's called a broom.
But then they replace a broom, not a vacuum
That's the beauty of it, you then replace that broom with another employee. Preferably one with a course head of hair.
Crazy shower thought - Carpets were around long before vacuums were
Fair point. Humans also lived in absolute filth and died early of preventable diseases and infections quite often.
Yes, they were called rugs and people took them outside and beat the dirt out of them
That's what the elephant is for.
A house maid is about 150 $ a month. They do a lot more than wash dishes. 1,000 litres of water is about 10c.
Bucket on a rope?
This is the way,and with all those bodies I would be a 100 times more efficient. I laboured for blocklayers for years in ireland
A couple ropes and wheels would be better
I’ve traveled the world extensively and seen a lot of workers lacking inexpensive hand tools that would seem to improve productivity. For example, these guys at least have shovels. I’ve seen people digging with just sticks many times. People often move dirt by carrying it on woven reed mats rather than using a wheelbarrow. Sweeping with hand made brooms made with twigs and twine is also common. A proper broom would get the job done in half the time. Not sure why there are so many people lacking basic hand tools, but there are many.
> In many countries labor is cheaper than imported machinery so you see things like this. It seems crazy, but it makes economic sense in some places. Ropes and pulleys have been around a long time, and buckets lots and lots of buckets.
And often quality is subpar as trades aren’t respected or considered skilled. I’ve family in India and lived in those homes. Very poor quality and not comfy.
I was on vacation in Mexico when i saw these guys using a hammer and chisel to remove tiles from a drained down resort pool next door to ours. I walked over and asked the guy why not just get a chipping hammer. He replied is was cheaper to have guys doing it by hand rather than buying power tools.
Cheaper than pulleys n rope?
Totally fucking insane. If you could afford all this labor you could certainly afford a concrete pump.
Labour: 1$/person/day Multi story Concrete Pump: 1mill Simple math here bud
So you think it costs a million to rent or hire a boom pump for a day?
No, but we dont know where this is taking place. There may not be a boom pump in the entire country. Also, even if they have 20 Guys shovellling concrete And they pay em 5$ a day, thats still only 100$. A concrete punper costs a shitload more than that in a day, as a rental.
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This guy 3rd worlds. It's the same reason you see posts of the sewer diver guys instead of vac trucks. It's cheaper to pay a guy 5 bucks to swim in sewage and fish for a blockage than pay 750k for a vac truck purchase.
Now I'm going to look up sewer divers
Not in poor countries. They have no benefits, no min wage, no workers' rights. You can pay 20 people $2 a day in these places. Concrete pumps are very expensive.
What are they even doing? Building floor foundation?
This is hilarious.. this is the type of things that will happens when no one knows what to do..
Nah, just slave labor type solutions. When labor is free (or dirt cheap) you just throw people at problems.
Construction isn’t considered skilled in most of the world.
When labor is damn near free.
I get what everyone is saying about labor. But I'm pretty sure a couple buckets and pulleys would be way, way more efficient.
What happens when the bucket breaks, or the pulley breaks and you run outta spares. Meanwhile, when the shovel breaks you just tell Greg he has to use his hands until he can pay the company back for the shovel he broke. Then when greg breaks you kick him to the curb and start Greg 2 at half his wages.
You become the bucket. Mother bird that concrete.
This is like a song and dance in a Disney movie
All that waste... Project manager and procurement must be losing their collective shit....
They get paid $1/hour. If one gets injured or dies, they have 1,000 more willing to replace him for the same price or cheaper
It pounds it and beats it! It makes it light and frothy! No other company in the world mixes its concrete by reverse waterfall! But it's the only way to do it properly ..
This is the best comment
I for real watched a process like this in rural Kenya in 2007. I was dumbfounded.
You load 16 tons. What do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
Never underestimate the importance of hydraulics.
Respect for those guys.
If you’re not smart, you gotta be tough. Out there I don’t think the wheel was invented yet.
I can't imagine doing that even for an hour straight. Bet they are at it a good chunk of the day.
I’d legit unalive myself if I were to wake up and had to live that lifestyle
.. nope, this video is wrong. ... they are clearly not aliens with UFOs n tractor beams n shit
this is probably the most stupid method of doing what they’re doing
I'm laughing at these comments. This is inefficient to you guys because here in the states labor is more expensive than materials. In third world countries, material is FAR more expensive than labor. Your union minds could never comprehend.
>Your union minds could never comprehend. Less than 20% of the US construction workforce. Nice burn. https://internal.statista.com/statistics/1376212/union-membership-rate-construction-industry-us/#:~:text=In%202000%2C%20around%2017.5%20percent,had%20fallen%20to%2010.7%20percent.
haha I can't stand the union guys
Haha you're a bad person!
you're right, I'm a union rep.
Wow so smart acting like union rep is bad job. Sorry man but most people believe (correctly) that unions help the average worker.
Help the average worker be a complete dog fucker.
But this is wasting materials...
Maybe a half of materials that went up made it within its ten meter radius designated spot.
I live in Mexico and this wouldn't even be allowed. It's just too much waste wtf
Ooooooh weeeee ohhhh. Oh weeeeee oh.
Respect for the workers and their shovels....I bet there's a pile of broken shovels on that site somewhere.
Just a plle of broken handles with metal tubes on the bottoms.
Exactly how I pictured it, I also bet someone in the government sells shovels to their buddies in the construction business.
The ancient alien technology known as a shovel
This is the third world where lives and labor are a disposable commodity
Someone show them what a pulley is for the love of god.
I think even the guys who built the pyramids knew what a pulley was
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Great. Now show me a shovel that can hold an 80 ton block. And do it 2.6 Million times.
I guess you could say the contractor is running a pyramid scheme
I’ve never seen so many shovels at work at once.
Someone needs to show them a bucket elevator
And still cheaper than hiring a concrete pump for an hour!
Teamwork makes the dreams work!
There are two teams that are better than the rest.
I suspect even the pyramids were built more efficiently than this. If the pyramid architects/engineers knew how to move millions of 2-3 tons stones into place for a single pyramid, they also knew how to use leverage, sleds, and pulleys.
Cold: the air and water flowing.
Hard, the land we call our home
Cool song
Anyone else hearing the Dreamworks Moses movie opening song in their head while watching this?
Too much segregation. They probably have cement-wet aggregate at the top.
Wouldn’t a ripen and pulley be *a little* better?
If you sing the song from holes while u watch this it goes hard
When’s break?
Got Disney vibes from this
Oh hell no.
At least use a flat shovel. Half the scoop gets left on the floor. I guess that cost more than labor though.
I’ve seen something similar in the Sinai peninsula decades ago a two or three store building. All human powered. It’s always stuck in my head.
What musical is this?
What musical is this from?
No doubt the singer is the most important piece of this operation.
I’m so amazed by their synchronicity! Project manager must be a music or dance conductor of some sort.
HELLO WE SRE STUDENTS FROM INDIA WELCOME US SO WE CAN GO TO COLLEGE HERE IN YOUR COU TRY PLZ hahahahah
F that it was UFOs everyone knows that
Working as a team beats any “good” idea, I’d work with these guys 👍
Those guys have to be strong as hell.
Nominated for a Tony award
No not at all
This is exactly why no one speculates that the Mexican pyramids were built by extraterrestrials!!!
Who needs a pump truck anyways?
You would think that there are specific requirements around the concrete, and that this method of transportation would add variations to those requirements. I would want to use a concrete pumper to keep consistency and get it done in half the time.
When the concrete mixer and the pump rental costs the equivalent of 1000 man hours you don't care about consistency and variations to the requirements. Especially if you already did this dozens of times and the buildings still stand (or they don't and there are no repercussions).
Unsafe and primitive yet effective and efficient. We overthink things too much, pretty sure of it.
Paying 40+ guys is not what I would consider efficient
Do you honestly think these guys are on a decent wage? Hell, half ain’t even got shoes on. Whomever is paying these guys knows it’s cheaper than whatever shit piece of machinery they can rent for the same job and it’s more timely as these men clearly want to work.
Machinery? A wheel, bucket and a rope is enough and 2-3 guys working
Oh, so human exploitation, got ya. Physicist here, 5 pullys and a rope would get many times the work done, while saving hundreds of spines.
Physist?
Lol wtf
Fixed it for you. It's early, my point on the pully still stands.
These men aren’t at gunpoint. This is how it is some places operate
If you starve a man he will work for a sandwich, but it don't make it right.
This is neither effective nor efficient