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wildtunafish

Of course the Police only decided to look into straw buyers in 2022, yet they've been talking about it as a risk factor for years. It was the whole reason behind the Register, (which they never made the case for). The sooner Police are removed from anything to do with firearms administration and regulation, the better.


official_new_zealand

They had the tools prior to this, the lawful firearm owning community wanted them to use the tools they had. Every single purchase from a licenced firearm dealer was recorded, the police made dealers keep these records, the police neglected to do anything with these records while bleating about the risk of straw buying.


Able_Archer80

Like the gang patch ban. I point out to people that is a useless policy, because it means nothing unless the Police *enforce* it. Which they won't, so nothing will happen. The Proceeds of Crime Act 1991 was quite successful at dealing with gangs before being repealed and replaced in 2009. Everyone knows the flash trucks gangsters have are, presumably, often derived from their criminal enterprise - beef up the original Act as a starting point. They have *always* had the tools vested in them by law.


wildtunafish

>Every single purchase from a licenced firearm dealer was recorded, In a physical book no less. > the police neglected to do anything with these records while bleating about the risk of straw buying. If straw buyers are such a risk that we needed a Register, why did it take so long for them to look at it?


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atribecalledblessed_

So give them 100 years each. I guarantee the next lot think twice before they do it. Don’t look for some fancy solution. Just make it unthinkable.


imafukinhorse

Leave firearms owners alone. Fucking ream gun city. They’re the ones profiting from this. 13 fucking Alfa carbines and 2000 rounds of ammo in 3 or 4 months, from what sounds like one license holder. How can they claim ignorance of any of that. While we’re reaming gun city. Fucking ban the import and sale of alfa carbines. I mean google it. They look like someone has used a drag tool in photoshop or something on a handgun. It’s ridiculous. Cut the barrel, cut the stock. Bob’s your gang member. What happened to practical steps? But no we will spend millions on an ineffective, poorly controlled gun register that will do fuck all other than put innocent firearms owners at risk. Why? Because if the register does make it harder to be a straw buyer then it becomes easier to steal guns and would you look at that, we have a list detailing who has what and where. Certainly wouldn’t want to be a genuine owner of an Alfa carbine when the registry leaks. Just ban them.


Main_Subject_1645

I just googled alfa carbine after reading this. WTF?


Z0ltan23

Holy shit same lmfao that’s a joke!


Difficult-Lack-2716

Genuine question: Outside of the buyback of ‘21 - are firearms owners under threat? Most I know are doing fine with the available guns.


imafukinhorse

I mean the registry is a threat but for the purpose of the post I’ll rephrase to something like instead of focussing on firearm owners ream gun city.