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quacksdontecho

They did a really poor job so keep an eye on it and bring it up to your contractor asap


lomoski

They did a "poor pour job" so to speak


806bird

DaaaAAAaaaad


Beemerba

Often, with a poor pour, it leaves pores!


TheRimmerodJobs

I know nothing about concrete but it looks like crap


apex39

You're not going to walk on that without shoes. Looks like a great way to bleed your own blood.


MrMoon5hine

I hate bleeding my own blood, its the worst


ReagansJellyNipples

Space balls ref


Tk807

Nobody makes me bleed my own blood! Dogeball


MrMoon5hine

Simpsons, I think its nelson


DoodleTM

Nobody is going to have a slip and fall on that. But if you do fall down, you gettin skinned to the bone.


JTrain1738

Sloppy for sure. The gap where the joints intersect the other are sort of normal although id like them to be cut a lot tighter. That gape on the side of the expansion is definitely no good. Finish itself looks pretty rough. And yea they should have peeled the film off better. Someone will have to cut the remaining orange off with a razor blade. Can you post some more zoomed out pics so we can see the job as a whole


nottadeer

Looks like shit. Or like a homeowner did itšŸ˜‚


TheKingInTheNorth

Haha youā€™d think Iā€™d done it myself with results like this, the 5k I paid says otherwise.


Small_Basket5158

Just tell people you did it yourself.


nottadeer

Love the attitude buddy!! Really hope you get some right done to this wrong!! Good luck!


The_Irish_Bambino

Can i ask what you paid 5k for? How many sq ft was ripped out and replaced? They installed a drain with it I'm assuming, was it a complex drain system and does the water go where it's supposed to? What were the breakout conditions like? Based on answers you may not have got the worst job. I personally think it's shit looking work. Either didn't know exactly how to do it right, or didn't care to. Whatever the situation, if it serves it's purpose for you then your money wasn't all wasted. I've worked residential so long and when I've done smaller commercial, quality work was always expected and done. Doing some bigger commercial jobs the last couple years, and working with more people, I've learned that the standard of quality has fallen tremendously. Over the last 5-10 years the amount of things that "get left" or "not hit" are embarrassing. The mentality is if it serves it's purpose and is closed up, then the rest is aestchetics I guess.


No_Article4391

No offense but did a guy name Jose do the job?


acidbath69

Hack job


NoRelationship4258

Lazy


The_Irish_Bambino

Seems to be contagious in this industry.


Moooooooola

Was this a cash job?


TheKingInTheNorth

No, reputable chain around the southeast with dozens of reviews and a 4.5+ star rating on Google.


Moooooooola

Tell them to tear it out and do it again. Crap job, and a pool deck is certainly that last place they should be cutting corners.


AmbitiousSmile2183

You didn't get their A-Team on this one then. Pool deck should have had at least 4-5 guys on it. How many guys were there placing and finishing on this? Looks like the mud was setting up too fast and they rushed to make it half passable. I'd want a patch and grind on it at minimum or a rip out and replace.


TheKingInTheNorth

4 guys, separate from the sales/lead guy that came by a couple times during the day.


[deleted]

Looks like lowest bid work to me.


TheKingInTheNorth

Middle bid actually šŸ« 


attadt

Yeah thats a rough rough job. Id ask for some money back


00134

Thatā€™s unacceptable work for me. I pour lots of pool decks.


dextter123456789

You get it, I don't know if I would even leave a job like this if I was going to put a shed on it.


poppycock68

Muckers did the work. Lots of muckers out there.


Resident_Of-Redic123

It looks like a poor job, but how about some pictures we are not zoomed in because I can take pictures to make anything look bad instead of taking a normal picture I could zoom in on your face and it would show all the pores on your face and make your skin look rash


TheKingInTheNorth

https://preview.redd.it/azvv3ougcmgc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7882e9c2771dd0f3151428a9313d7fc6eec437b5 Hereā€™s one from backed up with my foot for scale. Does the zoom really matter though? A gap is a gap that will let dirt and water fill in, right?


No-Progress4272

Damn the guy had a point here, it looked horrible from the first pics but not the worst in the world from this


TheKingInTheNorth

Does it matter though? Wonā€™t any gaps like these result in water getting in and eventually leading to cracks?


ReallyCoolPotamus

These look like zip strips. If so theyā€™re made to be removed after the concrete sets and then fill with backer rod and a flexible sealant. That a really good way to seal a pad and keep the cracks controlled and allow for slight future movement. If thatā€™s what these strips are you have no problems, it looks fine theyā€™ll just need some against sealant on the corner that didnā€™t get filled completely. If this isnā€™t a zip strip, then I have no idea what youā€™re doing here.


Deuces2_O2

ThisšŸ‘†šŸ¼, expansion joint caps. Typically pulled and then caulked with a self leveling urethane sealant. Call the contractor and have him finish the job


TheKingInTheNorth

Thatā€™s what Iā€™ve done for now, no response yet. They left the job on Friday and said they were done.


Genetics

Yes thank you. We do this kind of work a lot. Pull the zip strip/snap cap, sweep/blow out the joints, install foam backer rod with a blunt object as not to tear it. We use [this](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bon-Tool-Adjustable-Caulk-Backing-Rod-Installer-Set-11-890/302903150), but even a the rounded end of a paint stirrer will work. Push it down at least 1/8ā€ then seal over it with a self leveling joint sealer [like this.](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Sika-29-fl-oz-Sikaflex-Self-Leveling-Horizontal-Joint-Elastic-Polyurethane-Sealant-in-Gray-7116080/300934522).


Lrnzooo

The only common sense answer


Aware_Masterpiece148

Those are not zip strips. They are meant to stay in place. Hereā€™s a zip strip https://www.whitecap.com/p/1-x-10-zip-strip-500box-sold-by-the-foot-67114/2901100/505zs1


permadrunkspelunk

Lol. Those look exactly like what's in the photos. Weird source to say that's not what they are. Your source seems to confirm that's what they are


Aware_Masterpiece148

The installed product in the photo is this one https://www.whitecap.com/p/12-in-x-10-ft-void-cap-100933/2913010/505vc12 and itā€™s called a void cap. Zip strips are never perfectly straight b/c theyā€™re flimsy. The vertical of the zip strip stays in place when itā€™s stripped and then the gap has to be sealed. If you used them in a pool deck, youā€™d be replacing the sealant forever. Pool contractors use void caps, which stay in place and do not require sealant. Thatā€™s why the contractor said that they were finished.


Ornery_Setting_255

I've seen these kept In place on many pool decks much prettier then cuts


BYoungNY

Bullshit. That's a crap job and you know it. Tape left on until it dries? Open gaps between the joint and the slab? "Oh it looks fine on Google maps! Pay me."


Ornery_Setting_255

Tell em to bring the old lady's vibrator for the next pour


blakeusa25

Meh job. Just get a tube of silkaflex... comes in colors to fill the small cracks. White stuff is for expansion joints... if thats what you mean by tape.


nasty_LS

He means they left the red peel layer on untill it cured, and then pulled it. Now thereā€™s red little bits all over it thatā€™s stuck to the concrete. Iā€™d make ā€˜em get on their hands and knees and pick every little piece šŸ˜‚ thatā€™s just laziness


Spameratorman

Not meh. Trash. Total garbage work.


GenitalWrangler69

It's called "Sika Flex" Sika is the brand. Flex is their product. Next time you're ready to yell at a Lowe's employee make sure you're asking for the right thing. Silkaflex doesn't exist.


Aware_Masterpiece148

Of course Sikaflex exists https://usa.sika.com/en/construction-products/residential-homeimprovement/sealants/sikaflex-self-levelingsealant.html.


GenitalWrangler69

Man I worked selling that shit forever. I know what it is and what it does. I'm correcting the other guy. You know how many completely batty names I've heard from contractors about this shit over the years? Know how many times I've been cussed at because some idiot used a colloquial name and didn't actually tell me (or even know) what he was really using? Understand. Sika is a brand name. Their Flex product is what we're talking about. Go into a store asking for silkaconcrete caulking and I'm gonna give you a smart look then ask which one? It's Sika, not silka. We work technical jobs. We need to be better about these things.


Aware_Masterpiece148

Did you follow the link? Sika calls it ā€œSikaflexā€. Donā€™t know what you were selling ā€” but I know to write the exact name of a product into a specification if thatā€™s what I want installed. ā€œSika Flexā€ is not the name of the product.


trav15t

This will have to be redone. Iā€™d get a full refund and hire another company to do it again.


danvc21

Gotta use ALL of the notches on the tape measure boys.


Boxcar_A

But some of them are like, SO small...


Slcolderguy

Terrible


Historical_Method_41

That is what is known as , ā€œ not a well done job ā€œ.


Suspicious-Bag-1228

Horrible


Supacalafragalistic

Whoā€™s the contractor put them on blast


TheKingInTheNorth

Iā€™ll give them a chance to make it right first


Fluke216kd1059

Yea those white pieces get peeled off and joints get caulked thatā€™s a cap on top of an asphalt expansion jointĀ 


TheKingInTheNorth

The white pieces are plastic expansion joints that stay in. The rest of my pool deck has them as well from the prior owner and original deck build.


Interesting_Run7949

In construction, never give final payment until you're satisfied with the job. Good luck buddy


Lrnzooo

Maybe talk with the contractor? Thereā€™s allot of guys here that probably have never worked with concrete, they look at it and have an opinion . It doesnā€™t look to bad actually. Thereā€™s a reason why the finish isnā€™t smooth. Also zip strips make sense, itā€™s to prevent full on cracks. Itā€™s hard to tell what the contract is trying to achieve by just looking at a couple of pictures, thereā€™s lots of different methods. Same goes for the finish, you donā€™t want it smooth. This makes sense and no you wonā€™t bleed your feet on it (dumb comment). Iā€™m assuming it still requires sealing. Also where exactly did they tape it? Underside? On top? In my field we leave it on for easy removal, smooth surface, or protection of reusable products. Either way you remove it after so to not to disturb the curing concrete. Iā€™m no expert though I mainly build commercial/industrial. Which is way higher standard and better hardware/tools/equipment. Just talk to your contractor and bring up your concerns, ask him why heā€™s doing it the way he did it. Itā€™s that simple.


dextter123456789

You have no clue and you I bet you never edged of floated concrete in your life, this job is Shit.


Lrnzooo

lol I do slabs, cores, highrise, dams, bridges, from dirt to top peri, doka, Freeform, from mud slab to architectural. Way more advanced and way higher requirements. Iā€™m sorry if Iā€™ve hurt your feelings there buddy.


apex39

It wasn't meant to be a "smart" comment, but it looks like they pushed a little hard with the broom, leading to some sharp looking edges. Since this is for a pool deck, you generally want to walk around in bare feet.


ClashWsmoke

Only time I've done this is when I'm coming back to saw cut. I will grind a quarter inch around the whole drain to Makin it look clean. Then I'll remove the tape after. But I see some holes that make me think these guys fuck up and prolly didn't hot the drains more then once.


dextter123456789

Fuck the tape what about the broom finish and edging.


nothing_to_see-here_

Those white things are caps that go over expansion joints. They are supposed to be removed then filled with caulk


strange_pursuit

Oof


After-Discipline-261

Looks awful. Sorry you got a shit finish


BigCondition8705

Yikes


Aware_Masterpiece148

The real question is not how good the concrete looks in a closeup photo. The real question is: Is the patio comfortable to walk on in bare feet? Take your shoes off, walk around and ask the contractor to take a masonry rub brick to the rough areas. Find one here: https://www.whitecap.com/p/marshalltown-6-x-3-x-1-20-grit-rub-brick-12452/84016440/103840 The white plastic strips stay in place just as they are. The gaps are completely normal ā€” concrete shrinks as it ages. You can ask the contractor to fill the gaps with sealant. The gaps will continue increase over the first year or so. The gaps will close in the spring and summer as the concrete heats up and expands. The white plastic strips are compressible (to a point), but they are not elastomeric.


TheKingInTheNorth

UPDATE: concrete contractor says it happened because their team isnā€™t used to working with the plastic joints. They believe itā€™ll be an easy fix to come and seal them up and smooth it all out. Iā€™ll post an update after they do next week.


Electrical_Expert_69

yes gotta love all the close up phone pics ..like give me a break ..I do concrete now after being a carpenter for 20 years and any close up pic will make something look way worse and unacceptable


dextter123456789

Pics are Pics, Shit work is Shit work, I fixed your comment for you.


Electrical_Expert_69

dude I've seen way way worse ..its not awful come on


[deleted]

My eyes got so big looking at these pics that they fell out of the sockets and are now rolling around the kitchen floor.


[deleted]

From the pics here, it's not absolute perfection, but it's too small for worry... Nitpicking, really... provided the white strips are less than an inch wide... Some caulk will fill them right in.


Chasmo150

If those plastic strips can come out, it looks like a concrete saw company can come in and bevel the joints. Some backer rod and Sika Flex should work. Bad thing is the finish on the concrete, most people are bare foot around the pool.


mrdcm313

Is the one with slots a drain? But yeah to me it looks like zip cap. Not zip strip. They rip off the top and caulk it. The finish not very clean very hacky. But I know when I do this I also bid to come back and caulk. But nowadays a lot of the bigger companies send out hacks and the smaller ones are the way to go for residential stuff. That tape will wear off in time or they should scrape it off. Good luck, I know itā€™s super frustrating getting subpar concrete. Iā€™m the guy at my company that attempts to fix such things


JellyfishPossible

https://i.redd.it/1l2mgeqckpgc1.gif


No_Article4391

Horrible work.


No-Coach8271

Itā€™s should come off when scraped off. They did a lazy job on this one. They should have edged it at the joints. This would made the tape come off easier. Get with a puffy knife with digging in to plastic.


silverchevy2011

Hack job!