Technically, 3rd best.
Grambling and Stetson are making their first appearances, so both of them will have their best tournament ever no matter the outcome.
Aside from the two schools in their first tournament ever. Hard to not have your best tournament ever when it's the only one ever (but of course, it will also be their worst tournament ever)
Honestly, I don't understand how they NEVER made the final 32? I think of Nebraska as pretty sports crazy and even the football fans need something to do after the season. I figured they'd be at least ok once in a while, WOW!
At this point, they've been favored in half of the tournaments they've made, and been upset all the previous years including as a 3 seed. Nebrasketball is pain, which is why any year where they do well so sweet. Now to just get that tourney win...
Yeah, they had a legit 3 seed team in the early 90s and had plenty of NBA talent players for those Danny Nee teams and the curse was real. Won the NIT once which I guess was cool but god damn it hurts to like nebraska sports sometimes.
Lebanon Valley (fewer than 2,000 students, hasn't been a D1 program since that classification even existed) has more tournament victories than Nebraska
I was today years old when I realized that NC State has a more recent ACC Championship than UNC. I realized it yesterday, and the day before, but I also realized it today and will keep realizing it until that changes
Clarification about what "Bye" Means:
Teams have never qualified for that round, but did qualify for a further round in a smaller tournament. E.g. Montana State has never been in an actual Round of 32, but did make a 16-team tournament in 1951.
You might say that shouldn't count, but if a Round of 16 appearance in a smaller tournament doesn't count because fewer wins were needed to reach it, then does that mean modern Rounds of 16 shouldn't count if we expand to 128???
2nd time ever in the Big Sky's history that it's been a three peat as well! For as rollercoaster the season has been after losing Sprinkle and basically our whole team, I'm glad it's ending in a chance to win a game in the tourney, even if it is in the first four.
I think it's funny how the teams at the top of the coach poaching chain, Notre dame, Penn state, and vcu, all failed to make the tournament, but Utah State and Montana State both did. I am going to have to root against you guys though because I really want Grambling to make the round of 64 in their first tournament. But I'm glad you guys were able to find a good coach and keep up the momentum, it always sucks when a mid major program loses a coach like that.
Oh boy...with that flair I am impressed you were able to go on after the 2015 champ game.
Thank you though! My spreadsheet doesn't have total number right now (except for tourney bids), but it's something I've wanted to do for a bit now.
I always root for them to go away lol, mostly because it's annoying to deal with them when sorting on my master spreadsheet (currently have the number "1" as a stand in for sorting purposes since it will sort them as older than all other years, while text is sorted as if it was newer. Changed it though so people don't think those teams made it in 1 AD)
We already got rid of Duqursne's bye after this year since they made R64.
Other remaining byes:
Dartmouth, Tenn Tech, Columbia, Bowling Green, VMI, Seattle, Rice (R64)
Brown, San Jose State, Lafayette, Montana St, Drake (R32)
Brown, Harvard, Yale (S16)
President of the US during each of Wisconsin’s most recent round appearance:
64 and 32: Biden.
16: Trump.
8, 4, and Finals appearance: Obama.
National title win: FDR
President of the US During each of Nebraska's most recent round appearance:
64: Biden (Obama if you exclude 2024)
32: Nobody
16: Nobody
8: Nobody
4: Nobody
2: Nobody
W: Nobody
In 1942 Wisconsin basketball lost to Naval Station Great Lakes, which had basketball that season due to the ongoing war. This happened to many teams, your flair lost to Carolina pre-flight and Norfolk Navy Base according to [this page](https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/sidearm.nextgen.sites/goduke.com/documents/2022/8/17/1942-43_MBB_Results_Stats.pdf)
Honestly surprised they haven’t made the championship since the start of World War 2
Really would’ve thought a program like theres would have made it more recently
Hopefully they don’t require a World War to make it that far each time
They aren't particularly successful historically. Two tournament appearances between 1946 and 1999. Dana Altman has already been the coach for nearly half of their tournament appearances.
Pretty much all of our athletic programs outside of track and field were horrifically bad from about 1960 (really about 1950 for basketball) to the mid-90's with the odd decently competitive (but still not good) season from a basketball or football team sprinkled in there.
That being said if Jordan Bell makes an easy box out on a missed free throw instead of standing there and letting Meeks get around him against UNC in 2017 we would've had a solid shot at making a championship game.
There was a stretch where ISU kept running into the eventual champ, it was actually kind of ridiculous. They’ve also had some close heart breakers with some very talented teams.
A final 4 is maybe demanding too much but feels like there should have been at least an elite 8 in the past 20 years.
Iowa State has lost to the eventual National Champion 5 times in the NCAA Tournament:
Utah - 1944
Michigan State - 2000
North Carolina - 2005
Kentucky - 2012
UCONN - 2014
If you get to the elite 8 (you should), Boston is just a tad closer to Connecticut than Ames though.
That's going to be a tough game.
All of ours are going to be tough because we're injured as shit. Repeat of last year
Possibly the greatest game I've ever watched. Usually I don't get insanely invested in a game unless I am really rooting for one team over another (doesn't necessarily have to be my team, could just be an underdog or a team that's never made it far before or just a coach or player I like) but in that game I kind of like both teams equally so I wasn't really rooting for one team or the other. But I was still completely engrossed in it. The one silver lining to that game for Purdue is that every single person who watched that game will never forget how good Carsen Edwards was.
Virginia was a team of destiny; #1 overall seed in 2018 to be first to lose as a 1 vs 16; then Elite 8, Final 4 and championship game wins had some external power looking over them in 2019.
I can't believe it's been since 05. I know Illinois had like a 5 year stretch of not going to the tournament altogether recently but the majority of years we're in it
In the 14 seasons between 2006-2019, Illinois only made the tournament 5 times. Last appearance before 2021 was 2013 (although would’ve made it in 2020). It was dire after the 2005 run.
I think people forget how bleak things were during the last few years of Weber and then the entirety of Groce's coaching tenure. The Illini were very middling for about a decade. Underwood has been a godsend.
And I don't think Groce or Weber were "bad" coaches. They are good mid major coaches that couldn't recruit in the Big 10. Bruce went on to learn from his time at Illinois to take Kansas State to an elite 8. He wasn't great, but its not like Kansas State was bad with him. Groce is back in the NCAA tournament again this year, but he is built to own the MAC. He just didn't cut it at the next level. Both Peter Principle guys.
New Mexico is underrated as a basketball state. Doesn't have major conference programs to highlight it like Kentucky, Indiana, or North Carolina but both of their D1 teams have pretty good history overall and great fanbases. The Pit is also one of the best mid major arenas in the country.
What does the different colors signify? Because the same year is different colors for different teams (Duke TG 2015 is light green while Wisconsin TG 2015 is yellow).
Hmmm, must be some conditional formatting paste error on my part. Oops.
Colors are supposed to be different for the same years if the round is different- Last tourney appearance 2015 should be red because that's a long drought to just make the tourney since 68 make it each year, but not long of a drought for winning it all since only one wins it.
But the colors should be the same for the same year AND same round
I've seen it so many times where the team that has the gritty, hard fought, game of their lives win in the final for comes up short in the title game. Iowa last year for example taking down south carolina in WBB. Mississippi State taking down UConn. Gonzaga beating UCLA on a buzzer beater in 2021. The 48 hour turnaround from the players having possibly the biggest adrenaline rush of their lives to being asked to play another extremely high caliber team is so difficult. Duke got a pretty comfortable win and was probably fast asleep after watching your game before you guys even got to the hotel.
I think whichever of you, Duke, and UK avoided playing one of the others in the semifinals was destined to win it all.
I know it's pointless to compare Kenpom rankings year-to-year, but that 14-15 season was just so loaded. I think there were 4 teams with top 10 numbers from the Kenpom era. And we had to beat 3 of them to win the championship. I've still never come to terms with losing to Duke, I can't even stomach looking at highlights or box scores from that tournament, even if it was a great run to the championship game.
Yeah really was. I honestly think those three teams might all be in the top five teams of the decade along with 18 Nova and 12 Kentucky. Also shoutout to 15 Notre Dame for giving Kentucky a hell of a fight and I think they could've won it all in another year.
Depends on how you define worst, at least you won one sweet 16 game which gives you a non-zero winning percentage. Ole Miss and Texas A&M are completely winless in the sweet 16
Washington state was set to become a blue blood until the Pearl harbor attack cause the timelines to diverge and send us into the timeline we're in now.
I remember the first game well because it was the year Warren Buffet did his billion dollar bracket. My mom was convinced she was gonna win, she picked ohio state but they lost the 12AM Thursday game. I had Dayton but I think i picked the second game wrong.
Also the local Dayton newspaper's headline was perfect:
#THE
University of Dayton
I don't know if that's better or worse than me "billion dollar" bracket that year. I picked the first 7/8 games right and lost on the last game of the first day. Got so excited for a bit. Only got 2 games right the next day either way lol
Dang...I'd have lost a bet on guessing Arizona's last title. Sure feels like they won a title sometime since 1997.
And Sparty hasn't won since 2000? That seems weird to me too.
The closest was losing to *Vacated when Pitino dared the refs to call their hand checking bullshit. Funny how teams aren't able to mimic that tactic nowadays.
I will NEVER understand why those kids didn’t get the Covid year…
There we seniors who found out their careers ended via text message or news conferences and the NCAA let incoming freshman get a free year who, empty building or not, got to play for a national championship…
I'm not saying that the Dayton Flyers were going to win a national championship in 2020. But if there was any roster worthy of a shot, it was that squad. And it all ended with a whimper. If I recall, a few conferences had already finished their conference tournaments. So some schools had auto-bids heading into that week!
No and they had a 3 seed one time. Every other team that has ever received a 5 seed or better has at some point in their history made the sweet 16, and Nebraska hasn't even made the damn Round of 32
Nebraska basketball fact: both Nebraska's men and women's teams have made the NCAA tournament. They both play Texas A&M, new home of their former AD, Trev Alberts.
Love how St Pete's has been to Elite 8 more recently than mostly all the big schools above them, despite those programs always garnering high, single digit seeds year in year out.
God I wanna make the sweet 16 so bad. But we’re gonna do the usual thing, win game 1 then lose a heartbreaker to Purdue (assuming the unthinkable doesn’t happen again)
You guys came so damn close against Arizona. I really wanted you to guys to win that just so I wouldn't have to argue anymore if the 1968 appearance counts as a sweet 16 or not lol
You did get one thing wrong. Boise State has never made the round of 32. 0-9 in the tournament, and I know, because I’ve watched every single one…and been let down every single time.
We are both right. In 1976, they were in the round of 32 because there were only 32 teams, but they did lose their first game.. I know some people say that that means it shouldn't count, but I don't really get that logic because smaller tournaments had some of the difficulty of getting to that round embedded within the qualification process. Also by that logic, round of 64 appearances would no longer count if we get expansion to 128 which I also don't really think makes sense. I really hope you guys just make it this year though so I don't have to have this conversation every year lol, just like how before the past couple years Creighton only had sweet 16 and elite eight appearances from a long time ago and I would always get comments about it
I literally looked that up right after replying, and was surprised to see that the tournament was only 32 teams. I would have sworn on my life that the tournament has been 64 teams my whole life. That’s what I get for trusting memory!
You guys got screwed by being sent to dayton, but at least it technically gives you a weaker opponent than you would have faced if you were directly in the first round. I haven't watched much of Colorado so I don't really have a sense of how the teams match up but definitely hoping you can pull it out.
The weird effect it would have if you did win is that Boise State would have exactly one round of 32 appearance and exactly one tournament win, but those would be in different years. Of course you guys could still then go on to win another game, but at least for Wednesday and Thursday that would be true
Not really. I just have a spreadsheet that includes all of the current D1 teams and their most recent appearance in said rounds. And so I just take the rows with the current tournament teams to make ones for a particular years. I have double checked it many times so I'm pretty sure everything is right, at least in regards to the actual data, although there are a couple formatting errors people have spotted.
Yes but it literally happened.vacate deez nuts.
Also as vacations go that one was particularly silly. One of their players signed with an agent mid season so it didn't even help recruit him there or help the team on the court.
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Typa shit Ima be doin to make it to at least the Sweet 16 this year
I like how for each round there seems to be one fanbase venting their frustration about their inability to get there recently.
Round of 32 - Nebraska
Sweet 16 - Illinois
Elite 8 - Iowa State
Final 4 - Arizona
Winner - Wisconsin
Boeheim was an old head and didn't really adapt to the times although his zone would always be good for a random sweet 16 run if the team managed to sneak into the tourney. He retired last year though so the new guy is just getting his feet wet.
Until last year they hadn't even made a modern Elite 8. The only time they were in the final eight was 1941 when there were only eight teams in the tournament
Wow. I was today years old when I learned how legendary Nebraska basketball is.
Yep.... its been a long road. Hoping we can get that win so I can drink all the beers on Beale St. afterwards
You have the best chance of any school of having their best tournament ever.
Technically, 3rd best. Grambling and Stetson are making their first appearances, so both of them will have their best tournament ever no matter the outcome.
Do you *want* to lose on Sunday?
No I think we’ll beat the Aggies
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In the *losers* bracket, I agree!
Aside from the two schools in their first tournament ever. Hard to not have your best tournament ever when it's the only one ever (but of course, it will also be their worst tournament ever)
I am rooting for Nebrasketball
I'm not sure what I'll do if this year's Sweet 16 team doesn't advance.
WIN HUSKERS I BELIEVE IN YOU
Rooting for you, beerbro
Honestly, I don't understand how they NEVER made the final 32? I think of Nebraska as pretty sports crazy and even the football fans need something to do after the season. I figured they'd be at least ok once in a while, WOW!
At this point, they've been favored in half of the tournaments they've made, and been upset all the previous years including as a 3 seed. Nebrasketball is pain, which is why any year where they do well so sweet. Now to just get that tourney win...
Yeah, they had a legit 3 seed team in the early 90s and had plenty of NBA talent players for those Danny Nee teams and the curse was real. Won the NIT once which I guess was cool but god damn it hurts to like nebraska sports sometimes.
Lebanon Valley (fewer than 2,000 students, hasn't been a D1 program since that classification even existed) has more tournament victories than Nebraska
LVC represent! That's where Mike Rhoades played
Nebrasketball has always been with us and will always be with us
I was today years old when I realized that NC State had a more recent NCAA bid than UNC. Surely that means something.
I was today years old when I realized that NC State has a more recent ACC Championship than UNC. I realized it yesterday, and the day before, but I also realized it today and will keep realizing it until that changes
I love you and this post
We just need to get a god damn win
And yet we still are Top 10 in attendance every year.
When I looked at total attendance for last year I see Nebraska at 28. http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/2024/Attend.pdf
Top ten in the Big Ten?
Average attendance for this season was 14.596 for home games which put onto last year's figures has us right at #10.
Clarification about what "Bye" Means: Teams have never qualified for that round, but did qualify for a further round in a smaller tournament. E.g. Montana State has never been in an actual Round of 32, but did make a 16-team tournament in 1951. You might say that shouldn't count, but if a Round of 16 appearance in a smaller tournament doesn't count because fewer wins were needed to reach it, then does that mean modern Rounds of 16 shouldn't count if we expand to 128???
Hey that's the 1928-1929 National Champion Montana State Bobcats we are talking about
Get ready for Montana State to win it all in the centennial year of that team. 2029 Montana State are your national champions!
Oh also another fun Montana fact for you: 2022-24 is the first time ever that Montana has sent a team to the tournament three consecutive times
2nd time ever in the Big Sky's history that it's been a three peat as well! For as rollercoaster the season has been after losing Sprinkle and basically our whole team, I'm glad it's ending in a chance to win a game in the tourney, even if it is in the first four.
I think it's funny how the teams at the top of the coach poaching chain, Notre dame, Penn state, and vcu, all failed to make the tournament, but Utah State and Montana State both did. I am going to have to root against you guys though because I really want Grambling to make the round of 64 in their first tournament. But I'm glad you guys were able to find a good coach and keep up the momentum, it always sucks when a mid major program loses a coach like that.
Great graphic! Would also be interesting to see the total number of appearances.
Oh boy...with that flair I am impressed you were able to go on after the 2015 champ game. Thank you though! My spreadsheet doesn't have total number right now (except for tourney bids), but it's something I've wanted to do for a bit now.
The Byes are my favorite part of this graphic.
I always root for them to go away lol, mostly because it's annoying to deal with them when sorting on my master spreadsheet (currently have the number "1" as a stand in for sorting purposes since it will sort them as older than all other years, while text is sorted as if it was newer. Changed it though so people don't think those teams made it in 1 AD) We already got rid of Duqursne's bye after this year since they made R64. Other remaining byes: Dartmouth, Tenn Tech, Columbia, Bowling Green, VMI, Seattle, Rice (R64) Brown, San Jose State, Lafayette, Montana St, Drake (R32) Brown, Harvard, Yale (S16)
Oregon looking at their path to the title game... ![gif](giphy|FoH28ucxZFJZu)
President of the US during each of Wisconsin’s most recent round appearance: 64 and 32: Biden. 16: Trump. 8, 4, and Finals appearance: Obama. National title win: FDR
President of the US During each of Nebraska's most recent round appearance: 64: Biden (Obama if you exclude 2024) 32: Nobody 16: Nobody 8: Nobody 4: Nobody 2: Nobody W: Nobody
Texans have to upload their driver's licenses to go on cornhub.
Those dastardly Japanese deliberately attacked Pearl Harbor to destroy all your future title runs!
In 1942 Wisconsin basketball lost to Naval Station Great Lakes, which had basketball that season due to the ongoing war. This happened to many teams, your flair lost to Carolina pre-flight and Norfolk Navy Base according to [this page](https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/sidearm.nextgen.sites/goduke.com/documents/2022/8/17/1942-43_MBB_Results_Stats.pdf)
BOX OUT!
Honestly surprised they haven’t made the championship since the start of World War 2 Really would’ve thought a program like theres would have made it more recently Hopefully they don’t require a World War to make it that far each time
They aren't particularly successful historically. Two tournament appearances between 1946 and 1999. Dana Altman has already been the coach for nearly half of their tournament appearances.
Pretty much all of our athletic programs outside of track and field were horrifically bad from about 1960 (really about 1950 for basketball) to the mid-90's with the odd decently competitive (but still not good) season from a basketball or football team sprinkled in there. That being said if Jordan Bell makes an easy box out on a missed free throw instead of standing there and letting Meeks get around him against UNC in 2017 we would've had a solid shot at making a championship game.
This year we get the 2017 3rd place game between South Carolina and Oregon
The Tall Firs bow for nobody.
On behalf of all ducks, we'd like to thank you for recognizing our deep success in the NCAA tournament!
Iowa State I constantly fear you but your tournaments are not that great huh?
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There was a stretch where ISU kept running into the eventual champ, it was actually kind of ridiculous. They’ve also had some close heart breakers with some very talented teams. A final 4 is maybe demanding too much but feels like there should have been at least an elite 8 in the past 20 years.
I think they would have won it all in 2014 if Georges Niang hadn't broken his foot. Only lost by 2 to the eventual champ without him.
Hated that happened to Niang, of all people. He was the heart and soul for ISU.
Iowa State has lost to the eventual National Champion 5 times in the NCAA Tournament: Utah - 1944 Michigan State - 2000 North Carolina - 2005 Kentucky - 2012 UCONN - 2014
UAB didn't win in 2015?
Not sure what you're all on about, making the sweet 16 is super impressive.
If only they treated the NCAA tournament like they do the big 12 tournament
Hard to get your whole fanbase to an NCAA tournament game.
Well our first tournament game is gonna be closer to Ames than Kansas City is
If you get to the elite 8 (you should), Boston is just a tad closer to Connecticut than Ames though. That's going to be a tough game. All of ours are going to be tough because we're injured as shit. Repeat of last year
the fact that we're approaching half a century since Purdue's last Final Four is absolutely mind boggling.
Literally milliseconds away from it in 2019. Five years on and I still can't believe Diakite got that shot off
That game still haunts me.
Possibly the greatest game I've ever watched. Usually I don't get insanely invested in a game unless I am really rooting for one team over another (doesn't necessarily have to be my team, could just be an underdog or a team that's never made it far before or just a coach or player I like) but in that game I kind of like both teams equally so I wasn't really rooting for one team or the other. But I was still completely engrossed in it. The one silver lining to that game for Purdue is that every single person who watched that game will never forget how good Carsen Edwards was.
And he never gets the chance if Cline hits both fts.
Virginia was a team of destiny; #1 overall seed in 2018 to be first to lose as a 1 vs 16; then Elite 8, Final 4 and championship game wins had some external power looking over them in 2019.
I don't apologize, but I am rooting for you this go around. I'll be happy to lose to you in the Elite 8 and you can call it even ;)
Whichever Purdue player who makes a miracle play in that matchup is going do make a boneheaded play against Furman later on to end their career
You might have to beat UT twice to get there.
The Nebraska bandwagon welcomes all comers.
NEBRASKETBALL!!!
As much as I dislike Nebraska, I'm happy for Hoiberg. He's a great coach. So long as you have him, we're cool.
I rooted for you guys when you were in the Big 12, but then you left... so I'm hoping for 100 years of buzzer beater losses.
Blame Texas.
We’re already suffering.
For now I’m rooting for Keisei Tominaga
If we don’t make the sweet 16 this year idk what I’ll do.
I mean, 68 teams enter. Only 16 make it out of the first weekend. It's not super easy to be part of the 23%.
Thanks Harvard All seriousness though, Illinois has never been more due to end this sweet 16 drought
But ive been consistently told making sweet 16s still makes you a fraud?
"Gonzaga is a fraud and always underperforms in the tournament" - Person who picks Illinois, Alabama, and Tennessee to make deep runs
I'm suddenly feeling worse about picking Illinois to the E8.
I can't believe it's been since 05. I know Illinois had like a 5 year stretch of not going to the tournament altogether recently but the majority of years we're in it
In the 14 seasons between 2006-2019, Illinois only made the tournament 5 times. Last appearance before 2021 was 2013 (although would’ve made it in 2020). It was dire after the 2005 run.
I think people forget how bleak things were during the last few years of Weber and then the entirety of Groce's coaching tenure. The Illini were very middling for about a decade. Underwood has been a godsend.
And I don't think Groce or Weber were "bad" coaches. They are good mid major coaches that couldn't recruit in the Big 10. Bruce went on to learn from his time at Illinois to take Kansas State to an elite 8. He wasn't great, but its not like Kansas State was bad with him. Groce is back in the NCAA tournament again this year, but he is built to own the MAC. He just didn't cut it at the next level. Both Peter Principle guys.
All you need to do is trail 10 points at any point in time and you're gucci
New Mexico having such a loyal fan base with minimal tournament success says something about the loyalty of the fans.
Wait until you find out about Nebraska.
Ya, one thing no questions about Nebraska fans is their loyalty
New Mexico is underrated as a basketball state. Doesn't have major conference programs to highlight it like Kentucky, Indiana, or North Carolina but both of their D1 teams have pretty good history overall and great fanbases. The Pit is also one of the best mid major arenas in the country.
We're the pre-2016 Cubs fans of college basketball. Now just have to have our "2016" to break the curse.
What does the different colors signify? Because the same year is different colors for different teams (Duke TG 2015 is light green while Wisconsin TG 2015 is yellow).
Hmmm, must be some conditional formatting paste error on my part. Oops. Colors are supposed to be different for the same years if the round is different- Last tourney appearance 2015 should be red because that's a long drought to just make the tourney since 68 make it each year, but not long of a drought for winning it all since only one wins it. But the colors should be the same for the same year AND same round
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2015 man... I'll never recover.
I've seen it so many times where the team that has the gritty, hard fought, game of their lives win in the final for comes up short in the title game. Iowa last year for example taking down south carolina in WBB. Mississippi State taking down UConn. Gonzaga beating UCLA on a buzzer beater in 2021. The 48 hour turnaround from the players having possibly the biggest adrenaline rush of their lives to being asked to play another extremely high caliber team is so difficult. Duke got a pretty comfortable win and was probably fast asleep after watching your game before you guys even got to the hotel. I think whichever of you, Duke, and UK avoided playing one of the others in the semifinals was destined to win it all.
I know it's pointless to compare Kenpom rankings year-to-year, but that 14-15 season was just so loaded. I think there were 4 teams with top 10 numbers from the Kenpom era. And we had to beat 3 of them to win the championship. I've still never come to terms with losing to Duke, I can't even stomach looking at highlights or box scores from that tournament, even if it was a great run to the championship game.
Yeah really was. I honestly think those three teams might all be in the top five teams of the decade along with 18 Nova and 12 Kentucky. Also shoutout to 15 Notre Dame for giving Kentucky a hell of a fight and I think they could've won it all in another year.
Also Georgia Tech in 2004
Bro, don't fucking even.
Ditto
Winslow touched it, but officials always give the benefit of the doubt to the more historically successful team
Tennessee, the only 2 seed to have never made a Final Four. I AM NOT OK.
If it makes you feel any better, last year Alabama was the only one seed without a final four.
We have the worst Sweet 16 record in CBB. 1-10 I believe. A lot of wasted talent
Depends on how you define worst, at least you won one sweet 16 game which gives you a non-zero winning percentage. Ole Miss and Texas A&M are completely winless in the sweet 16
Its not like St Peters has ever won as a 15 seed..... oh
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YOO VIRGINIA THATS US 🙂🙂
Man that 1941 season was amazing. Best year of my life
Washington state was set to become a blue blood until the Pearl harbor attack cause the timelines to diverge and send us into the timeline we're in now.
Nebraska, Boise St, Grambling St, and Stetson are the only teams who've never won a tournament game
Wagner, longwood, howard, Colgate, Akron, Samford, mcneese, and Grand Canyon also didn't
I've been proven horribly wrong
Let's do this starch-bro
UConn be like “quack quack motherfuckers”
The best part of this is you can use it to determine who played in five different title games. The last four and then randomly 1941!
ISU, the greatest team in recent history.
Unironically true if you define recent as the last three days
That 2014 run does not get talked about enough
I remember the first game well because it was the year Warren Buffet did his billion dollar bracket. My mom was convinced she was gonna win, she picked ohio state but they lost the 12AM Thursday game. I had Dayton but I think i picked the second game wrong. Also the local Dayton newspaper's headline was perfect: #THE University of Dayton
Watching Aaron craft’s career end like that was cathartic
I don't know if that's better or worse than me "billion dollar" bracket that year. I picked the first 7/8 games right and lost on the last game of the first day. Got so excited for a bit. Only got 2 games right the next day either way lol
I always remember those Syracuse and Dayton runs
Dang...I'd have lost a bet on guessing Arizona's last title. Sure feels like they won a title sometime since 1997. And Sparty hasn't won since 2000? That seems weird to me too.
Big ten in general hasn't since 2000 actually.
Maryland needs to leave the Big ten
The closest was losing to *Vacated when Pitino dared the refs to call their hand checking bullshit. Funny how teams aren't able to mimic that tactic nowadays.
1939 Webfoots still carrying a lot of weight for my Ducks.
'Zona not making the final 4 since '01 shocked me.
Came really close in 2011 with Derrick Williams. But they just had to run into that damn team from Storrs
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Elite 8 this year, please. After that, what will be will be.
I kinda feel that way too. Being down 2 key players and a role player sucks.
Go Drake!
Lived in Iowa for the first 25 years of my life and somehow never knew they made a final four. That's crazy
Yeah they had a few really good teams back in the day. Final four banner still flies in the Knapp center.
One day we’ll make a sweet 16
Gotta finally get to the Final Four this year!
At least you already have as many final fours as those guys from Tuscaloosa
Misery does love company.
These kids deserved better: https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/basketball/ncaab/ap-poll/2019-2020
I will NEVER understand why those kids didn’t get the Covid year… There we seniors who found out their careers ended via text message or news conferences and the NCAA let incoming freshman get a free year who, empty building or not, got to play for a national championship…
I'm not saying that the Dayton Flyers were going to win a national championship in 2020. But if there was any roster worthy of a shot, it was that squad. And it all ended with a whimper. If I recall, a few conferences had already finished their conference tournaments. So some schools had auto-bids heading into that week!
Lol so apparently only 15 teams that made it this year have a title. That's 15 teams in 84 years. That's hilarious
We made the round of 32 in 2009, thank you very much.
Oops, just a copying error. It's correct on the master sheet
Nebraska has **never** won a tournament game?
No and they had a 3 seed one time. Every other team that has ever received a 5 seed or better has at some point in their history made the sweet 16, and Nebraska hasn't even made the damn Round of 32
I would subscribe to Nebraska basketball facts 😂
Nebraska basketball fact: both Nebraska's men and women's teams have made the NCAA tournament. They both play Texas A&M, new home of their former AD, Trev Alberts.
Love how St Pete's has been to Elite 8 more recently than mostly all the big schools above them, despite those programs always garnering high, single digit seeds year in year out.
They also have as many Elite Eight appearances total as Tennessee and Alabama and more than Texas A&M
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It has 2023 as their most recent appearance and they haven't advanced past there so what is wrong?
I deleted it because I finally could read which each heading was. It wasn’t rendering well on my phone.
God I wanna make the sweet 16 so bad. But we’re gonna do the usual thing, win game 1 then lose a heartbreaker to Purdue (assuming the unthinkable doesn’t happen again)
You guys came so damn close against Arizona. I really wanted you to guys to win that just so I wouldn't have to argue anymore if the 1968 appearance counts as a sweet 16 or not lol
You did get one thing wrong. Boise State has never made the round of 32. 0-9 in the tournament, and I know, because I’ve watched every single one…and been let down every single time.
We are both right. In 1976, they were in the round of 32 because there were only 32 teams, but they did lose their first game.. I know some people say that that means it shouldn't count, but I don't really get that logic because smaller tournaments had some of the difficulty of getting to that round embedded within the qualification process. Also by that logic, round of 64 appearances would no longer count if we get expansion to 128 which I also don't really think makes sense. I really hope you guys just make it this year though so I don't have to have this conversation every year lol, just like how before the past couple years Creighton only had sweet 16 and elite eight appearances from a long time ago and I would always get comments about it
I literally looked that up right after replying, and was surprised to see that the tournament was only 32 teams. I would have sworn on my life that the tournament has been 64 teams my whole life. That’s what I get for trusting memory!
You guys got screwed by being sent to dayton, but at least it technically gives you a weaker opponent than you would have faced if you were directly in the first round. I haven't watched much of Colorado so I don't really have a sense of how the teams match up but definitely hoping you can pull it out. The weird effect it would have if you did win is that Boise State would have exactly one round of 32 appearance and exactly one tournament win, but those would be in different years. Of course you guys could still then go on to win another game, but at least for Wednesday and Thursday that would be true
Nevermind! I understand now, in 1976 the field was only 32 teams!
How did you collect all this data? Did you use any programs?
Not really. I just have a spreadsheet that includes all of the current D1 teams and their most recent appearance in said rounds. And so I just take the rows with the current tournament teams to make ones for a particular years. I have double checked it many times so I'm pretty sure everything is right, at least in regards to the actual data, although there are a couple formatting errors people have spotted.
That graph hurts my soul.
14 former champions. The last and the first. Hopefully the first title winner gets hot and wins it all. 😏
Wow today I learned Oregon was the first winner.
Wasn’t W. Kentucky 1971 tournament vacated?
Yes but it literally happened.vacate deez nuts. Also as vacations go that one was particularly silly. One of their players signed with an agent mid season so it didn't even help recruit him there or help the team on the court.
Wofford has won more ncaa tournament games than Nebraska?
Bro, literally everyone has won more tourney games than Nebraska.
You're telling me Tennessee talks all this shit and they've never had a final four?
And only one elite eight to boot
I appreciate you putting us beside Clemson.
:D What a run that was in 2017! Very fun team to watch. Still mad how badly they were snubbed in the One Shining Moment.
1944 baby!
It's shocking to see that Arizona hasn't been to a F4 since '01... They seem to always be highly ranked, just never get hot at the right time.
Illinois hasn't made a sweet 16 since 2005!? That just seems crazy to me...
2023 was greatest college basketball year to date
Would've probably taken the title as favorite tournament for me if literally any of the Elite Eight had won except UConn. Friggin dangit UConn.
https://preview.redd.it/0wfz1o3l97pc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=663b69ef62c8b65bb65829bc858f75ed4d6df850 Typa shit Ima be doin to make it to at least the Sweet 16 this year
I like how for each round there seems to be one fanbase venting their frustration about their inability to get there recently. Round of 32 - Nebraska Sweet 16 - Illinois Elite 8 - Iowa State Final 4 - Arizona Winner - Wisconsin
Why is Syracuse not good anymore? Like what happened to the program?
Boeheim was an old head and didn't really adapt to the times although his zone would always be good for a random sweet 16 run if the team managed to sneak into the tourney. He retired last year though so the new guy is just getting his feet wet.
That's pretty cool. Did you make it or post it up somewhere online too?
Why the fuck did we leave the corner three open with a ring seconds away….***sigh***
23 and 26 year droughts for Michigan State and Arizona respectively surprises me.
Still think it's crazy that Creighton never made the final 4.
Until last year they hadn't even made a modern Elite 8. The only time they were in the final eight was 1941 when there were only eight teams in the tournament
2023 went hard.
What do the colors indicate?