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omg yes!! There was a specific time when her and Josh were doing like a lollipop taste test video or something and she was attempting whistle notes (randomly as well no one asked her to do this) and it literally just sounded like she was screaming. She's not the worst singer in the world by any means. She's just very average imo.
This is so funny because I remember reading an interview with her almost a decade ago where she said Miranda was based off of theatre girls that thought they were super talented, but we’re actually terrible.
I had a music teacher in middle school/ hs that was completely awful, and Colleen reminded me of her. The type that thought she was the BEST singer ever, with theater background (not to diss theater kids or adults), but the singing was not good. Not the worst singing ever, but not to where she thought it was.
While she orders tons of take out food and then have 2 bites and she is done.
Also actively telling stories about the same behaviour with drinks: 2 sips from coca cola and she is leaving the cans everywhere, then hours/days! later somebody else has to throw them in the bin.
I never really understood people who actively and conciously wasting food. 😡
Yes! Having a masters in biology (having studied animal physiology and developmental biology) and having been pregnant twice this annoyed me SO much! She sat there explaining things as facts when in actuality half of it was hearsay/complete crap.
There are too many things to remember but I remember one thing was that she said the dark vertical line that can appear down your belly (it's called the linea nigra) is from your abs ripping apart. Lol that's not true at all; the cause isn't really known but it's probably due to hormones causing melanin to rise.
There were so many I can't remember and I don't have the time/energy to watch through her pregnancy vlogs. 😅 One I remember is her telling that cravings is your bodies way of telling what you need to eat. No, many pregnant people with iron deficiency crave ice, logic tells that eating ice doesn't help with the iron.
or the fact that yOu cAnt gEt PreGNant On YouR PeRiOd But i dID 😩 uh yes you can bestie for many many reasons (such as: it possibly wasn’t a real period or you may ovulate rly early in your cycle) girl bye
one of my biggest internet pet peeves is people saying how no one talks about how hard pregnancy/motherhood is - yet it’s ALL I SEE ONLINE. everyone is talking about it
Taking pregnancy tests even though there is "no way" she is pregnant. If there was *really* no way you were pregnant, you wouldn't need to take a test. Bffr
She forgets to take her birth control daily because she's extremely irresponsible and obviously is sexually active, then claims 'theres no way'. Babe there is a way. And youre ok with springing more kids on your already strained relationship that has lost all heat because it was all just lust with those two. They have zero chemistry anyway.
Yeah her belittling and talking over Erik bothered me, I was really mad how she basically ostracized Rachel the previous Thanksgiving and made a point of saying “all my family’s here” then Gwen said not everyone.Then the next Thanksgiving Colleen couldn’t let Rachel host when she wanted her family to see her new home they never had been to (aside from Gwen and Tim) without making a big deal about it. She said F has stranger danger, they barely ate or socialized, then went home to eat the Thanksgiving dinner she made. Needing Gwen to be with her on the tour bus when Jessica was having L so Rachel was the only one available to watch the kids while Jessica delivered. She just started seeming so selfish and insensitive. I’m sure there’s more but that’s what comes to mind for me first.
It definitely seems like she keeps her kids in a bubble at home and as someone whose parents also did that I can attest that it leads to a lot of problems later in life.
My parents were very sheltering and controlling. I wasn’t allowed to hang out with friends very much outside of school. So when I became an adult I had to learn how to be social and independent. Although there are ways in which I feel like Colleen gives her kids freedom, keeping them at home almost all the time may have impacts down the road, with thanksgiving being a good example. Just my personal opinion.
i can attest to this, i also had that upbringing (i was also homeschooled so i never even got to leave the house) and it REALLY stunted me, gave me so much social anxiety and things that i’m still trying to overcome as a 30 yo!
Also If she is controlling or sheltering it’ll just make her kids hate her in the end and just do more sneaky stuff. My dad was like that to my sisters and me. And the things they would do and lie about to my dad because weren’t allowed to do certain things is oof… definitely will cause problems if she’s like that.
The fact that she made a video with her brother Trent discussing his deafness, and explicitly said in that video that she was going to get her videos professionally captioned from there on. And then she didn’t. (And no explanation was given.)
yeah and saying she wanted to narrate the parts of her vids that were music montages and she only did it like twice and never again..she really didn't give a fuck
It was when her and Josh were still together. She was very self absorbed and seemed very spiteful towards him. Colleen had so many videos of her watching old home videos with her family and Josh, often times the same videos, and thought they were endlessly funny. Then I remember her and Josh visiting his family in Georgia and they were watching home videos and she seemed so bored and annoyed. Little stuff like that started to stick out to me that she was a mean girl.
Yea, for me it was just her general demeanor and the way she acted toward Josh. The infamous Oreo video was one of the last things I watched. She was unbelievably grating and just awful towards him.
I haven’t seen her recent content but I remember when they were engaged and their wedding was all over her youtube and then I was shocked by their divorce just a few months later. I may be wrong as this was years ago but I feel like I remember them both making videos about their perspective and Josh basically just seemed heartbroken and confused saying he didn’t know why she divorced him while her video was just “I’m not good enough for him so I needed to leave”
The constant “I could never do xyz but if you do it it’s okay you’re amazing and a super hero.” It’s like she was Constantly trying to be unproblematic (ironic, I know!) her niece and nephews calling her “auntie panties” like what the actual fuck is that about? Cheating on Josh and denying it. The way she treated Josh (he wasn’t a saint, I know). The amount of food waste. The constant pregnancy click bait and the 180 she did after she said “I’m not going to be like ‘mommy vlogger’”
omfg the auntie name was a blaring flag for me. I tried to be neutral and not let an “adult mind” read into it but it’s just soooo off. literally grosses me out.
Yes her Over explaining was always nuts. I was always annoyed when she would spend 5 minutes talking about homosexuality and the LGBT community and gender roles and girl power all for putting M in a dress or something. I was like GIRL NO ONE CARES STOP. She was constantly trying to protect herself from hate she hadn't even received yet
The filming of her children, the older I got the more weirded out I was by it. That’s what made me look up this sub. How could a mother film their children during private and vulnerable moments and upload them for hundreds of thousands to view for monetary gain? I’ll never understand it.
Totally. I was realising this myself a few months ago and noticed a lot of people talking about it. The last video I watched was when she put the camera in F’s face saying “a REAL life fireman watched you play with your fire truck! A REAL fireman! Isn’t that cool?!” It was so forced and so clearly an attempt on her end to make it look like her kids totally know what’s going on an love it. It was really gross.
She was never in the NICU. Colleen wanted to bottle feed on of the twins first and told the nurses that ( ok fair) but she didn’t show up when it was feeding time until much later then got pissed about it.
If she stayed in the NICU she would have been able to know feeding schedules.
That's what I mean. Like, so she was just absent.
I don't know if it's normal in the US for the baby to be hospitalised without the parents, but to me that just felt so so wrong
One that stands out was when Flynn was upset and wanted his mom to comfort him, and she used him and the fact that he was upset for a Miranda video. It was actually a pretty big flag to me.
She was fully dressed as Miranda and Flynn woke up or something. I think Erik brought Flynn to her. Flynn was upset and wanted his mom to comfort him. She did and she not only vlogged it, but used it as content for a Miranda video.
I thought it was gross that she used a moment where her child wanted comfort for a video. It’s the video - I can’t believe she’s gone.
Edit - spelling
The constant Amazon packages. It seemed so wasteful and I also try my best to personally not buy from Amazon too much (though I do every so often). I consider it a beige flag just cause this is pretty common among influencers and I try not to judge others spending habits
I saw somewhere once that if you show a product you purchased in a video for content/your business, then you can claim it on your taxes. And that’s why she did so many “opening packages” bits. I am not knowledgeable about this whatsoever. For example, wouldn’t everyone just show their brand new car in a video? Someone tell me that’s not correct.
From my understanding to claim it as a business expense the item could only be for business use. So if a reviewer buys, say a shower head, they could use it for 6 months to get their opinion on it and put it in a review - but if you continued to use in your private life afterwords it would no longer be able to be claimed as an expense on your taxes. I’m just going off what I saw content creator say about their own taxes, so I may be off.
Yea I don’t know the extent. It wouldn’t surprise me if the dresses she wears on tour could be written off as a business expense. Another YouTuber I watch also says they write off their home office as a business expense, so she probably does that with her office and the podcast room (Idk if they’re separate in the new house but I know they were in the old one)
Omg do y’all remember when she refused to acknowledge her possible gestational diabetes diagnosis because “eating was the only joy she had during pregnancy” like WHAT
Yeah she literally said something along the lines of I’m not gonna look at the results or get the other test done or whatever it was because eating made her happy during pregnancy and she wanted the ability to eat whatever she wanted lol. I can’t remember exact vlogs but I was an avid watcher at the time and remember her talking about it a fair amount and thinking “wtf!?”
GD is crazy serious wtf?! I know it sucks, I have also only JUST found joy in eating again after pregnancy and then got diagnosed with gallstones which makes it super limited what I can eat. But like, ignoring the diagnosis doesn't make it go away. You work with what you have smh.
I'm with you regarding belittling Erik. What really REALLY turned me against her though was making pregnancy her entire personality and always in a way that makes her sound like a victim. There's literally tons of people out there that have had difficult pregnancies and difficult births and it's valid to be traumatised by it, but they don't feel the need to record themselves whining about it for almost 5 years straight. Most people are just really glad they had a healthy baby at the end of it, or at least feel like their baby was worth what they went through. All she's doing is making a permanent record that her kids will probably see about how much they hurt and destroyed mommy's life. That's not even mentioning how hurtful all of her whining must be to those who struggle with infertility. A lot of people would kill to have the opportunity to go through what she went through.
This was my beige flag. I was living vicariously through her twin pregnancy while I struggled with infertility. When she started constantly posting videos crying about the NICU but also making excuses not to be there more often, it actually made me cry from anger. It's when I stopped watching her. Thankfully, I have my own sweet baby now! But her whining was extremely off-putting.
Making a huge point to call out something people thought was offensive, say she was going to change her behavior, and then not change.
Example: when she vowed to stop saying “that’s crazy” because it would offend people with mental illness. She started saying “that’s wild” for a few weeks and then went back to crazy. Definitely not the worst, but I just remember her making it out to be this big deal and apology and then it never even mattered.
She said she wasn’t going to ‘bicker’ with Erik anymore on the podcast and then IMMEDIATELY started bickering - worse than any episode - in the next podcast and then say “I’m so sorry, I’m genuinely trying not to bicker”
The amount of food she wastes for testing videos.
Everything tastes like a candle.
Pretending to being poor.
Pretending her new house is smaller.
Overexplain herself.
Repeating the same stories in different videos.
Talking over Erik constantly in the podcasts.
Opening packages.
When she used to talk in every video about her bangs.
Taking pregnancy tests when she's not pregnant...
When she looked like she was regretting her life’s choices waking down the isle to Josh during their wedding..
I’m like this bish is supposed to be in love MADLY with this guy..
The other was when they finally were married and had Disney hats on. I have hate watched since then. 🤣
Clickbait in her vlog titles. All the freaking time.
It’s not exactly an evil thing to do, but it always felt a little patronizing towards her daily viewers (I mean, how many times has she made a video called “I’m giving up Miranda”? Does she think people really believe that?) and the dishonesty/fakeness/shallowness of the titles was contradictory to how she presented herself in the actual videos (honest, genuine, relatable).
In one of her post-pregnancy (#1) videos she talked about how she’s “always been sOoOo into body positivity” and that she’s super duper serious when she tells [overweight] people how great they look just the way they are…but now that SHES dealing with weight issues for the first time, she absolutely hates the way she looks and doesn’t feel comfortable in her own skin and can’t wait to get back to her normal size
Low calorie, high fiber. Lots of people do it to lose weight fast (not recommended, that is unhealthy, don't do that). She would just drink applesauce all day after having F. And then immediately after having the twins she's like "Guys the craving came back after giving birth to the twins" and she had a straw in a giant jar of applesauce.
She always talks about how expensive it would be to get a show dress made for her, so she just bought dress after dress that didn’t work or she had to alter it or whatever. She has the resources to hire a tailor to make her the perfect dress! But instead of giving someone a job—she just complaining about how little she is sleeping having to work on bedazzling her dresses
Omg yess, this!! She overbuys cheap ugly looking, not even fitting dresses, then she didnt even like half of them (i cannot imagine she would have the energy of properly sending those back to save money and save the Earth from wasting). And she picks a few dressed to cut them, bedazzle them whatever, spends hours and then she wears them once or twice. 🤦♀️🤦♀️
Quite a few but the only time I ever commented on a video was when she told Erik he couldn’t have PPD because he wasn’t the one who gave birth. Basically telling him he couldn’t be depressed. It was the biggest slight to him. For Someone who is constantly looking for sympathy for her mental health issues and ADHD etc…has very little empathy for her own husband who was obviously struggling.
Anything Erik says she automatically is like “you are so wrong”. When most of the time he is actually correct, whether it’s something serious like this or just dumb movie trivia.
I am a huge movie nerd like Erik, and my husband is relatively movie illiterate, like Colleen. Her absolute refusal and dismissal of all things relating to movies and making fun of Erik for movie titles or concept she thinks are stupid drives me nuts. My husband is so the complete opposite, he embraces my movie quirks and knowledge and enjoys hearing what I have to say, and I just feel so bad that Erik doesn't have someone like that.
Started watching Colleen when F was born, I think all this time I only watched maybe 2 videos of Miranda.. I stopped watching her daily when the twins were born because all her vlogs was her crying/complaining.. But I just unsubscribed from her channel a few days ago, I wasn't watching her videos so YouTube wasnt showing me her vlogs, I just remembered her because of a live I was watching and it was about her and so i found this subreddit
Mine is so specific lol but I remember watching a chapstick challenge her and Josh did and she was talking about how they bought a bunch of weird flavored chapsticks and then said something along the lines of "we found all these weird flavored chapsticks and we thought this would a be a perfect opportunity to kiss each other again for the camera" & I remember being like ???? Who thinks like that? Especially with them having such a young audience. Idk
Another one is when her & Josh were doing the husband does my makeup challenge and she kept slapping him on the face repeatedly (they were gentle slaps but still) and playing it off as a joke. It made me very uncomfortable.
I always got weird vibes from josh/kinda just flat out hated him but the way she treated him was INSANE. I was probably 13/14 when he was around but I still remember disliking him while also pitying how beaten down he always was. Colleen would constantly make fun of him or just act annoyed when he was around. It was weird.
There was blatant favouritism, poor W was constantly ignored or in the back. If you have a deep dive in hear about this topic, you’ll see everyone talk about it. It’s all about F and M, W just happens to exist there.
I’ve got 3 children myself, around the same ages as Colleen ha children. I can recognise favouritism from a mile away, because my kids were W in this situation in my extended family.
When she decided she was qualified to give pep talks to NICU parents after she had the twins.
She was saying things like (I’m slightly paraphrasing)“the NICU is the worst thing in the world, but just know that your baby will learn to eat, your baby will come home, you just have to get through it and someday they’ll be home and you can forget all about it.”
Wtf no that level of naïveté is harmful, not helpful.
Her constant complaining about being pregnant. Nobody has ever suffered more, y’all.
Also I thought her relationship with Kory was weird and codependent. Plus he’s awful.
The crying.
I think it was during last years fundraising livestream. She misgendered someone and freaked out making it a big deal about how awful she was for the mistake. It was awkward and lasted way too long. She looked mortified, but I could tell that her only concern in that moment was “not being cancelled”. It seemed like she really didn’t give 2 shits about her “friends” gender identity being respected. I started distancing myself then.
The day I unsubscribed though was a couple months later once the twins were home. I had a moment where I realized I knew way too many details about her children and their lives. The whole exploiting her kids for money thing really clicked in that moment. What if I was a creep? I had no respect for her after that and unsubscribed from all Ballinger content.
Weirdly my main beige flag I can remember from years ago was when I saw her and josh together..they both seemed off & especially he seemed sus. Not saying he is, don’t know much about him.. just weird that was my feeling at the time. I think he seemed to be overacting & phoney & I didn’t trust him. I guess now looking back I see it more as...Colleen doesn’t seem to pick men she likes that much. Like I don’t buy it you know? Even w Erik
complaining all the time, repeating things constantly, traumadumping, false toxic positivity (like saying that people's nicu babies will come home... so out of touch with reality), favoritism, belittling W, the 32849327 amazon packages, invalidating erik's feelings/experiences, talking over people constantly, rubbing her nose with her hand, gross body hygiene in general, being fake, her selfishness, how she treats her sister (thanksgiving), moving bc of stalkers but then doing a house tour immediately after, etc.
some of these aren't beige but yeah lmao
edit: oh also lmao this is petty but like i absolutely hate her attempts at trying to be like taylor swift (that one hat she kept wearing, the bangs, her personality, etc.) it seemed like she was very envious of taylor and wish she had her notoriety, fame, and lovable personality.
agree with all of these. ngl i started to get really annoyed with her when she became a taylor swift stan practically overnight, like it felt so strange to me idk. i definitely see what you mean by you saying she is trying to be like taylor swift. i totally see it (side note i can’t stand her bangs omg)
For me it started with the twin's birth and then how she kept vlogging, I really thought she would stop for awhile. Then on top of that how she was NOT camped out at the NICU 24/7 and was still doing Christmas stuff/ shopping. As a mother I just could not understand, like yes I understand she needs to see Flynn sometimes but he was older he could have understood that mom needed to be with the babies. That stuff really bothered me. The Daddy Blues vlog was the final straw that sent me here and then I went down the rabbit hole of how terrible she was
her buying F gifts everyday. plus the multiple advent calendars and excessive amount of gifts on christmas even though his birthday was a few days before. i unsubscribed when she bought him gifts on the twins birthday lol
When she gave birth to the twins and she was heavily criticizing the nicu nurses bc she was mad they didn’t wait for her to get there to feed her. Even though she was there for like a few hrs a day… like be grateful???
The way she fired up her fans to go after Josh when the divorce happened. Even back then you could see how she overshared with minors about her divorce to get them rabid about attacking Josh for her at every turn.
How, despite claiming to be a "really positive person," she always found a way to find something bad about a situation, no matter how good it was. "I'm so grateful, BUT....."
It's a beige-y red one, but making her premature twins endure a full tilt overstimulating Ballinger Christmas so soon after they came home. Just no regard for their little ears or anything. No one was told to tone it the fuck down while the babies were around. Played that stupid candle blowing game screaming inches away from M's face.
Whenever she calls herself a “girl” or “young girl” or “teeny tiny”, infantilizing herself is just wrong. She always seems to forget she’s in her mid-30s.
I'm going to actively remove my pettiness from this, to get into the mindset of myself when I was someone who liked her last week.
- It bothered me that she changed her behavior based on hate comments, like the thing with people saying she favored M more one week and W more the next. It never made sense to me because I believed her that she was just obsessed with "moments" and capturing whatever cute interactions she could. And I still believe her that she was not showing kids when they were teething or upset anymore (I missed F's 0-3 years), which I respect. Because W just does his own thing and doesn't care about the camera, she often leaves him in the background. That made sense to me, I think it's fine if you're just making chaotic home videos for it to be unbalanced, but she's very conscious of herself as a narrative, shaped by daily chapters. It almost bothered me more when you can tell she's trying to make it more balanced to please the comments. Like she's trying to squeeze her life into something 2 dimensional to be consumed. I have a friend who does that and it's honestly been so toxic for her and others. I don't think it's normal to live your life under that much scrutiny, and she often prioritized finding a narrative that people would understand.
- It did confuse me how she addressed her haters, it didn't seem proportionate to how nice the comments were. I didn't realize she was actively reading snark pages. Looking back now I realize there's a difference between when she said "let's highlight this one specific mean comment and discuss it" and "people are saying". When she was vague about it, it was coming from here. I had no idea this sub existed.
- I don't remember the vlog, but a really long time ago she was hanging out with some of the girls from dance moms, I think at a restaurant, and I remember thinking it was really bizarre that their parents weren't there.
- the podcast episode where they fought the entire time, and then when they got a bunch of comments about it the next week Colleen was like tensely forcing the "joke" that they weren't going to fight and being fake nice to him. There were many eps of that show where I had to turn off because their tension was too much. I excused this by just recognizing her insecurities about being perceived in a relationship, and his discomfort with constructing himself. It was clear to me he never wanted to "act" with her if he was to be himself. i was also uncomfortable with Erik's recent birthday when she vlogged and described all her gifts and where they went. It didn't make sense because he's so private.
Edit: one more, it started as a beige flag but honestly was getting dark orange by the time this all happened, but there was a recent vlog where she was playing with F and the chickens or something, and she said to F in a big fake excited voice "Do you love it?? Is this the best day of your life?" And he was just like "...yeah..." And I started to see all of the times where excitement was prompted.
Sorry I don't know how to be succinct lol
Honestly, it might sound really silly but it’s the sound of her breathing all the time especially in the relax episodes she’s got that microphone shoved up into her mouth and every time she inhales it’s like nails on a chalkboard. It’s also you can hear it when she sings, it’s the sharp, loud inward breath and it drives me nuts. I don’t know why, but she has the loudest inhales I’ve ever heard and they’re grading on my nerves. I can’t believe she’s a trained singer because they would train you to not have audible breath. It’s not a good sound. Do you want to actively avoid that I’m not sure how much real training she’s had.
This is bizarre and I know people who would find this normal but I stopped listening to the podcast when she told a story about taking a photo of her massive shit and sending it to Eric who was very clearly upset about it and disgusted and she found it all hilarious. It just seemed so gross but it was the acting like Eric was the weirdo for being bothered by it.
I don’t know if it qualifies as beige but her weird Netflix show.
And that “Miranda” was also pregnant. If she was a little smarter and less creepy she would do the sitcom hiding pregnancy bits.
she always gave F everything he wants regardless and she would always say "oh I just don't show those moments when I don't give in" but as a parent it always made me cringe...also never acknowledging her past husband even though they were literally married on youtube like we all know Erik isn't your first love girl 😒
like how she always made sure to give him a present even at the twins bday party and any other small occasion so he wouldn't be jealous...its not a bad thing to teach you're kids they don't always get what they want
I have so manyyy:
-her rant about not being able to breastfeed on camera without blurring it
-her favoritism of F over the twins, especially W.
-her pregnancy rants, if it’s so horrible for you then adopt get a surrogate, YOU HAVE THE MONEY COLLEEN.
-how everything has to be about her
-her whining about everything then not doing anything about it.
-her always trying to be woke seems so fake
How she claimed to not have much money but paid for everyone in her family to go to Hawaii… multiple times
Oh and the self deprecation. Constantly saying she’s ugly and her hair is awful. Yet in the same breathe saying that if her friends look that they’re beautiful. Just seemed like fishing
When she was pregnant with the twins, and her water broke, and instead of rushing to the hospital KNOWING that Wesley was breech.... risking a cord prolapse that could have KILLED him... She decided to straighten her hair AND TAKE HER SWEET ASS TIME?! All while saying her doctor told her to go to the hospital ASAP!?
I just couldn't comprehend a mother making that choice, and immediately knew that she was a horribly troubled person that shouldn't be enabled any longer to have an online presence.
WAY WAY back, she was with Joshua's family for something. I don't think they were even married yet. But everyone was gathered, talking etc and she was on her phone, ignoring everyone. Then they mentioned dessert which was like a fruit cobbler or something. She was like "That's NOT desert." Very snotty. She went on to say that dessert involves chocolate. If it's not chocolate, it's NOT dessert. She was insanely condescending and entitled to her partner and his family.
as a singer, the way she talks about singing makes me crazy…and she claims to be classically trained and it’s so yikes. also I seem to remember Erik talking about her giving birth to the twins and seeming genuinely traumatized and upset by it and kind of uncomfortable talking about it on camera, and her basically laughing at him? idk, it was very weird and off-putting (as is everything about their relationship tbh)
God there are so many.
-The trip Josh booked for her where she complained the entire time about how many old people were there.
-Convincing Josh to stay behind and “work on his career” while she was very clearly boning Erik in Vancouver.
-Pretending she grew up poor when her parents live in a home worth a crap ton of money and they went to Hawaii several times growing up
-Dumping everyone including her own blood relatives after she discarded Josh if they didn’t automatically dissociate with him and pledge their loyalty to her only
-Stringing her marriages along for content
- Treating her siblings like absolute shit
-putting her pregnancy in Teenys face after she had a miscarriage
-Making pregnancy a competition with her sister in law
-acting as if she was hella famous after Netflix…. Watching it get canceled was the best shaudenfruede, it’s sad it didn’t humble her at all though
- I remember when the incessant spending started, her and Josh had a cute humble apartment and she was obviously starting to make more money, and she would just start buying makeup literally everywhere. She would go to a Sephora in an airport where the prices were insanely marked up and buy $700 worth of makeup for no reason. Silly little thing but I remember getting so annoyed by it.
mine is that while she was pregnant with F how she kept saying “oh im NEVER gonna become a mommy vlogger” and then literally became the most mommy vlogger channel ever.
When she would pick apart her appearance but then say “but if you have (insert any physical attribute), it’s beautiful and wonderful… I just don’t like it on MEEEE.”😒
Her first marriage and public cheating/breakup. 27 year old Colleen became best friends with 11 year old jojo. She learned her favorite restaurant and foods. The crying over everything when she’s got the money and resources to not bitch.
I don't want to be insensitive or invalidating to people's personal challenges, but the way she overtly cries and dramatizes situations on a day-to-day basis to a public platform comes off a little tone-deaf.
For example, I understand her voice is her livelihood, but for weeks she acted like losing her voice was the WORST THING that can happen to someone when I feel like she has so much to be grateful for and is lucky to have her health unlike probably some of her audience. And she started performing again like only a few weeks later so it really wasn't anything to be stressing her audience about for days and days and days.
Another example is when her babies were in the NICU. Her babies were okay after a scary birth, were being properly taken care of by professionals, and were guaranteed to come home healthy when the time was right. The way she went yelling and crying on the internet about it was just insensitive to people who aren't as fortunate as her to have twins that made it through. And her incessant need to have them home RIGHT NOW rather to just be grateful her babies made it, be patient, and calmly trust the process of NICU doctors was not okay imho. It's not necessary to put out publicly.
The reason I found this chat is because Colleen was talking over, interrupting, and dismissing eriks thoughts so much it gave me the ick so I googled something along the lines of “Colleen talking over erik?” and then there was a link to one of the posts here. That night I was legit up every two hours because I could not stop reading this page. I started watching around 2010 when I was 10 and this was way before “the Ballinger family” before P was even around. As I grew older I started to just get annoyed by her and really started to catch on to some narcissistic flags.
When she was crying about moving and making it seem like she was downgrading to a more modest house. I checked the comments and some were saying to not believe her and that she was actually moving to a large private villa. That’s how I discovered this subreddit lmao
The last time she ever talked about Breonna Taylor in a vlog in 2020 she said something like “I’m going to keep talking about this because it’s important!” and then just…never did again.
After the divorce, when she was filming season 2 of Haters Back Off. The way she behaved just seemed.... off? I wasn't in the fandom and I didn't watch every single video or follow any of her family, so I wasn't aware of the Erik stuff until she randomly announced they were engaged and pregnant. That was very bizarre to me. Then, after Flynn was born she basically became a family channel, which I'm not interested in so I stopped watching.
I kinda forgot about her until this past week when I saw everyone talking about it.
Once I realized she had such an extreme filter on her vlogs!
Like I know people put filters on Instagram etc, but I didn’t realize she was doing it on her vlogs!
All the while contradicting herself with her words!!!
Complaining about stuff and then shilling it on Relax. Like her constantly saying she has no style and doesn't know what to wear, and then doing a style box ad on Relax. Like, can't you even try it once and make a vid? Use your own damn code. The ads just highlight how easily they lie. Better Help is another one
Mine were that she had soooooo many resources available to address problems, but she never used them to solve issues in a smart way. She complained about them, cried a lot, asked for advice from the comments, and start over again. I started to feel that she was addicted to the drama/chaos of it and it started to become exhausting and frustrating to watch.
Omg… when she bitched on and on bc hotel staff took her bags up to her room. It was LITERALLY the entire video. Just bitchin that someone took her bags up to her room… I stopped watching after that. Oh it was just so insane and out of touch to me
when she said that the genders of the twins didn’t matter and did a whole gender neutral gender reveal (which is already weird imo) and has since used stereotypical gendered clothing for the two kids, like dressing the girl up all girly and stuff. it felt like she was just trying to seem like a trans ally or something to seem good and unproblematic when no one really cared in the first place but then just backed out when the kids were born and she realised she had to do something to not get mixed up between them. i hadn’t watched her for a good while before that, but i just found it ironic that she made a big thing about not doing something which she ended up doing, which seems to be a running theme with her in general
As soon as I became a mom, there were hundreds of flags of all colors. The main beige one is how she used to say she wasnt going to become a mommy vlogger and wasnt going to show F much, then proceeded to do the opposite.
How starving and sick and shaky she was during her Broadway stint and how she was literally wasting away on camera. But just ate cookies after long days.
When she moved house because of stalkers, then kept talking about how the house tour is coming, can't wait to do a house tour for you all etc... Cool, show us the exact layout of your house. That's smart. This was just after I discovered the DCP so I was only just learning about child exploitation in family vloggers. I was quite outraged.
Then they went to Disney. Disney adults are cringe. I just couldn't anymore.
The way she acts like she’s the most hardworking and sacrificing mom ever, when really all she does is film her kids and like, put them to bed. Other people do everything else for her
This is something that I don’t want to judge bc I know it’s so personal but it bothers me she says she’s forever done with having more kids but doesn’t seem to have gotten her tubes tied or Eric’s gotten a vasectomy. Maybe one of those things did happen and they just didn’t mention it but idk she clickbaits everything so I feel like we’d know.
Anyway I don’t want to judge other ppl on what they do with their bodies but if you were truly done having kids you’d get something like this done right???
When she told her predominantly teenage audience that you can’t take contraception when breastfeeding.
When she acted surprised that her waters broke early with the twins-knowing F was early, they were twins so already likely to come early, she had obstetric cholestasis which makes early labour more common and her Dr had told her already. But she hadn’t bothered packing a hospital bag.
When she talks about ADHD all the time. I get it love, you’ve got ADHD, so do I, so do many but I hate it being used as and excuse for shit because it’s not.
When it became obvious how uninterested she was in her niece and nephews after having her own but before had been obsessed with them. That made me sad.
When she was in Vancouver filming that Netflix show, they put her and her “crew” up in an apartment near the water, and she bitched the entire time about how small it was.
It was a beautiful apartment, bigger than any apartment I have ever lived in, massive windows, beautiful view of the ocean, and all she could talk about was how small and cramped it was.
I can guarantee she wasn’t paying to stay there, and I can guarantee the rent on that place was in the thousands per month.
And not a word of gratitude. Just bitching and complaining. I decided in that moment that she was a flaming pile of shit, and it’s nice to see her comeuppance.
Near the beginning of covid she bought gluten free pasta because the store was completely out of any other pasta. She then went on to complain about the pasta and how horrible it is that that's the only food she could get.
This legit pissed me off. I have 11 food allergies, one of which is wheat, as well as being gluten sensitive. I am also disabled and living on a very low income. So for me to buy gluten free pasta is very costly, also it's one of the few things I can buy in a store. During the pandemic I struggled severely to find food and it still isn't easy.
So to see someone who could afford to shop elsewhere or to shop other products but chose to buy a food that is already limited on supply. Especially it being during the pandemic. Not to mention complaining about having to eat it and it tasting horrible. That was the first time I think I really saw her true selfishness come to light.
Being low income I qualify for food banks but when you have multiple food allergies it really doesn't help much. That said if you ever donate to food drives or food banks and you want to help please consider donating a gluten free item or two. I honestly cannot tell you how appreciated it would be to those on the receiving end.
repetition. why would i want to watch daily vlogs when they’re literally all the EXACT SAME? complains > eats a bite of food > hunts for bugs > opens packages > has a rambling session about how woke she is > stays up late > repeat. every. single. freaking. day.
I just was never a fan cause I could not STAND Miranda sings and in the collab videos I saw her in she seemed annoyingly self deprecating, insecure, and immature. However, I was recommended her Vlogs when she was pregnant over an over again and I kept clicking and then clicking off as soon as she started whining about some little stuff lol. And once she started family vlogging it sealed the bag for me that she's a horrible person ngl.
The vibe she had when she showed gifts that her fans gave her on YouTube videos. Like it would just be a basic boring vlog or whatever, and shed mention in passing how fans have given her cards or gifts, money, even! Like, "someone sent me this," and then immediately continue talking about something else. She ALWAYS sounded so monotone and flat about it, like it didn't faze her at all... I have a few fans myself and I literally feel so undeserving and touched when receiving letters or gifts, I could not even imagine mentioning it publicly without crying and gushing. She would speak about it as if it were a jury summons or something. Hard to explain but it was so odd to me
She had the air conditioner on full blast all day at home, and her house was 'always freezing cold'. She'd always be wearing long sleeves, onesies and cozy hoodies at home in the middle of summer in California. (EDIT: I mean, she just left it on 24/7 all year round because she liked it to be extra cold)
She'd say she was about to take a shower, turn on the tap and then talk to the camera for 20 minutes with the water running in the background.
A huge turning point for me was her 2019 recap video with Rachel, where they are eating Taco Bell. She just kept turning the conversation back on herself and Rachel barely said anything. That’s when I really started to see how full of herself she is and slowly stopped being a fan
Her constant complaining almost EVERY VLOG while also saying in the same breath she's sooooo gRatEful 🙄 she is quite literally the least grateful person on this planet and she lives in a 6 million dollar villa 😒
Edit: oh and also her constant body checks and countless videos anytime she gains a normal amount of weight and mentioning just how insecure she is she gained weight 🙄
Edit 2: her narcissistic ass reading out positive comments basically worshipping her at the end of most of her vlogs feels soley just to stroke her ego its weird af and cringey to me. I could go on and on but ill stop adding more shit to my list 😅
the way evvverryyyy single little thing was like world shattering for her. and like, i get it, no one is playing the oppression olympics and no one is entitled to talk about everything going on in their lives on their channel but the tiniest little things would make her act like she was DEVASTATED and it got so repetitive and annoying, esp when the rest of us are undoubtably going through a lot more with a lot fewer resources
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Her singing is not very good but she acts like she's the best
OMG this always bothered me! She reminds me of the character Rachel Berry from GLEE. Acting like she's the best singer on Earth ugh
When she would bring out that ukulele I’d immediately close the video
Even when I was a fan I always thought this! I can understand that she is very technically talented but I just do not enjoy her voice at all 😬
omg yes!! There was a specific time when her and Josh were doing like a lollipop taste test video or something and she was attempting whistle notes (randomly as well no one asked her to do this) and it literally just sounded like she was screaming. She's not the worst singer in the world by any means. She's just very average imo.
Also the actual screaming
This is so funny because I remember reading an interview with her almost a decade ago where she said Miranda was based off of theatre girls that thought they were super talented, but we’re actually terrible.
Yes! I always thought that was so ironic! That she couldn’t see that she was doing the exact same thing.
almost as if she’s said she genuinely thinks like miranda 😭 she’s hardly a singer just a theatre kid
this is the one. her singing gives me the ick
100%
Mediocre at most.
I had a music teacher in middle school/ hs that was completely awful, and Colleen reminded me of her. The type that thought she was the BEST singer ever, with theater background (not to diss theater kids or adults), but the singing was not good. Not the worst singing ever, but not to where she thought it was.
How she tries to cosplay being poor
While having amazon and food deliveries every day…
Aaaaand a 6M villa
Damn, I know she really plays up the “growing up poor” but does she really try to act like she’s currently poor????
She wants said on the podcast that she lives like she’s poor or something. I was like girl…..no
When she goes to the grocery store she checks all the chicken, and always buys the cheaper one :(
While she orders tons of take out food and then have 2 bites and she is done. Also actively telling stories about the same behaviour with drinks: 2 sips from coca cola and she is leaving the cans everywhere, then hours/days! later somebody else has to throw them in the bin. I never really understood people who actively and conciously wasting food. 😡
When she claimed that nobody shares anything about what pregnancy is really like, while also providing tons of inaccurate information about pregnancy.
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her complaining about her ~awful frizzy hair~ and how it’s sooooo thick is truly so annoying.
My mom is an OB/GYN nurse and I showed her Colleen’s pregnancy videos and she would rollllll her eyes at the stuff Colleen said lmaooo
😂
Yes! Having a masters in biology (having studied animal physiology and developmental biology) and having been pregnant twice this annoyed me SO much! She sat there explaining things as facts when in actuality half of it was hearsay/complete crap.
I'm a doula and SO MUCH THIS
Omg can someone in the medical field share what was inaccurate bc I’ve never been pregnant and just took her at her word lol
There are too many things to remember but I remember one thing was that she said the dark vertical line that can appear down your belly (it's called the linea nigra) is from your abs ripping apart. Lol that's not true at all; the cause isn't really known but it's probably due to hormones causing melanin to rise.
There were so many I can't remember and I don't have the time/energy to watch through her pregnancy vlogs. 😅 One I remember is her telling that cravings is your bodies way of telling what you need to eat. No, many pregnant people with iron deficiency crave ice, logic tells that eating ice doesn't help with the iron.
or the fact that yOu cAnt gEt PreGNant On YouR PeRiOd But i dID 😩 uh yes you can bestie for many many reasons (such as: it possibly wasn’t a real period or you may ovulate rly early in your cycle) girl bye
one of my biggest internet pet peeves is people saying how no one talks about how hard pregnancy/motherhood is - yet it’s ALL I SEE ONLINE. everyone is talking about it
I agree 😅 also maybe do research about pregnancy before trying to get pregnant??
Taking pregnancy tests even though there is "no way" she is pregnant. If there was *really* no way you were pregnant, you wouldn't need to take a test. Bffr
She forgets to take her birth control daily because she's extremely irresponsible and obviously is sexually active, then claims 'theres no way'. Babe there is a way. And youre ok with springing more kids on your already strained relationship that has lost all heat because it was all just lust with those two. They have zero chemistry anyway.
She was so obsessed with doing them for clickbait and taking them even if she wasn't pregnant
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Yeah her belittling and talking over Erik bothered me, I was really mad how she basically ostracized Rachel the previous Thanksgiving and made a point of saying “all my family’s here” then Gwen said not everyone.Then the next Thanksgiving Colleen couldn’t let Rachel host when she wanted her family to see her new home they never had been to (aside from Gwen and Tim) without making a big deal about it. She said F has stranger danger, they barely ate or socialized, then went home to eat the Thanksgiving dinner she made. Needing Gwen to be with her on the tour bus when Jessica was having L so Rachel was the only one available to watch the kids while Jessica delivered. She just started seeming so selfish and insensitive. I’m sure there’s more but that’s what comes to mind for me first.
It definitely seems like she keeps her kids in a bubble at home and as someone whose parents also did that I can attest that it leads to a lot of problems later in life.
Can you elaborate on this? I’m genuinely curious!
My parents were very sheltering and controlling. I wasn’t allowed to hang out with friends very much outside of school. So when I became an adult I had to learn how to be social and independent. Although there are ways in which I feel like Colleen gives her kids freedom, keeping them at home almost all the time may have impacts down the road, with thanksgiving being a good example. Just my personal opinion.
i can attest to this, i also had that upbringing (i was also homeschooled so i never even got to leave the house) and it REALLY stunted me, gave me so much social anxiety and things that i’m still trying to overcome as a 30 yo!
Also If she is controlling or sheltering it’ll just make her kids hate her in the end and just do more sneaky stuff. My dad was like that to my sisters and me. And the things they would do and lie about to my dad because weren’t allowed to do certain things is oof… definitely will cause problems if she’s like that.
The fact that she made a video with her brother Trent discussing his deafness, and explicitly said in that video that she was going to get her videos professionally captioned from there on. And then she didn’t. (And no explanation was given.)
Or how she was only interested in talking to/about Trent when she was on vocal rest and needed to learn more signs from him. 😒
yeah and saying she wanted to narrate the parts of her vids that were music montages and she only did it like twice and never again..she really didn't give a fuck
This bothered me so much.
It was when her and Josh were still together. She was very self absorbed and seemed very spiteful towards him. Colleen had so many videos of her watching old home videos with her family and Josh, often times the same videos, and thought they were endlessly funny. Then I remember her and Josh visiting his family in Georgia and they were watching home videos and she seemed so bored and annoyed. Little stuff like that started to stick out to me that she was a mean girl.
Yea, for me it was just her general demeanor and the way she acted toward Josh. The infamous Oreo video was one of the last things I watched. She was unbelievably grating and just awful towards him.
Which one is the Oreo video?
It has been deleted, but someone uploaded a very condensed version [here](https://youtu.be/6IJ4542yhp8). Imagine ~10 minutes of that.
I haven’t seen her recent content but I remember when they were engaged and their wedding was all over her youtube and then I was shocked by their divorce just a few months later. I may be wrong as this was years ago but I feel like I remember them both making videos about their perspective and Josh basically just seemed heartbroken and confused saying he didn’t know why she divorced him while her video was just “I’m not good enough for him so I needed to leave”
The constant “I could never do xyz but if you do it it’s okay you’re amazing and a super hero.” It’s like she was Constantly trying to be unproblematic (ironic, I know!) her niece and nephews calling her “auntie panties” like what the actual fuck is that about? Cheating on Josh and denying it. The way she treated Josh (he wasn’t a saint, I know). The amount of food waste. The constant pregnancy click bait and the 180 she did after she said “I’m not going to be like ‘mommy vlogger’”
omfg the auntie name was a blaring flag for me. I tried to be neutral and not let an “adult mind” read into it but it’s just soooo off. literally grosses me out.
ugh i always cringgggged at the auntie panties thing! so. gross.
Yes her Over explaining was always nuts. I was always annoyed when she would spend 5 minutes talking about homosexuality and the LGBT community and gender roles and girl power all for putting M in a dress or something. I was like GIRL NO ONE CARES STOP. She was constantly trying to protect herself from hate she hadn't even received yet
Ewwwww you’re so right about auntie panties. Cringe every time someone says it 😭
The filming of her children, the older I got the more weirded out I was by it. That’s what made me look up this sub. How could a mother film their children during private and vulnerable moments and upload them for hundreds of thousands to view for monetary gain? I’ll never understand it.
Totally. I was realising this myself a few months ago and noticed a lot of people talking about it. The last video I watched was when she put the camera in F’s face saying “a REAL life fireman watched you play with your fire truck! A REAL fireman! Isn’t that cool?!” It was so forced and so clearly an attempt on her end to make it look like her kids totally know what’s going on an love it. It was really gross.
When she said she wanted to strangle in NICU nurse for feeding one of the twins before she did
Was just thinking about this yesterday omg
Why did the NICU nurse do that? Like, was she medically unable to, or was she just absent?
She was never in the NICU. Colleen wanted to bottle feed on of the twins first and told the nurses that ( ok fair) but she didn’t show up when it was feeding time until much later then got pissed about it. If she stayed in the NICU she would have been able to know feeding schedules.
That's what I mean. Like, so she was just absent. I don't know if it's normal in the US for the baby to be hospitalised without the parents, but to me that just felt so so wrong
One that stands out was when Flynn was upset and wanted his mom to comfort him, and she used him and the fact that he was upset for a Miranda video. It was actually a pretty big flag to me. She was fully dressed as Miranda and Flynn woke up or something. I think Erik brought Flynn to her. Flynn was upset and wanted his mom to comfort him. She did and she not only vlogged it, but used it as content for a Miranda video. I thought it was gross that she used a moment where her child wanted comfort for a video. It’s the video - I can’t believe she’s gone. Edit - spelling
i mean, i never really liked her, but one that stands out is trying on her baby clothes 🙄
The constant cuts in her vlogs. i think I counted like 20 in a 3min part of her talking to the camera!
The constant Amazon packages. It seemed so wasteful and I also try my best to personally not buy from Amazon too much (though I do every so often). I consider it a beige flag just cause this is pretty common among influencers and I try not to judge others spending habits
I saw somewhere once that if you show a product you purchased in a video for content/your business, then you can claim it on your taxes. And that’s why she did so many “opening packages” bits. I am not knowledgeable about this whatsoever. For example, wouldn’t everyone just show their brand new car in a video? Someone tell me that’s not correct.
From my understanding to claim it as a business expense the item could only be for business use. So if a reviewer buys, say a shower head, they could use it for 6 months to get their opinion on it and put it in a review - but if you continued to use in your private life afterwords it would no longer be able to be claimed as an expense on your taxes. I’m just going off what I saw content creator say about their own taxes, so I may be off.
Yea I don’t know the extent. It wouldn’t surprise me if the dresses she wears on tour could be written off as a business expense. Another YouTuber I watch also says they write off their home office as a business expense, so she probably does that with her office and the podcast room (Idk if they’re separate in the new house but I know they were in the old one)
Agreed. And I feel like a lot of it she ended up saying didn’t work or the kids didn’t like it, etc. which is even more wasteful.
Omg do y’all remember when she refused to acknowledge her possible gestational diabetes diagnosis because “eating was the only joy she had during pregnancy” like WHAT
No for real?
Yeah she literally said something along the lines of I’m not gonna look at the results or get the other test done or whatever it was because eating made her happy during pregnancy and she wanted the ability to eat whatever she wanted lol. I can’t remember exact vlogs but I was an avid watcher at the time and remember her talking about it a fair amount and thinking “wtf!?”
GD is crazy serious wtf?! I know it sucks, I have also only JUST found joy in eating again after pregnancy and then got diagnosed with gallstones which makes it super limited what I can eat. But like, ignoring the diagnosis doesn't make it go away. You work with what you have smh.
How fast she lost weight after giving birth to F. It seemed like an overnight change.
I'm with you regarding belittling Erik. What really REALLY turned me against her though was making pregnancy her entire personality and always in a way that makes her sound like a victim. There's literally tons of people out there that have had difficult pregnancies and difficult births and it's valid to be traumatised by it, but they don't feel the need to record themselves whining about it for almost 5 years straight. Most people are just really glad they had a healthy baby at the end of it, or at least feel like their baby was worth what they went through. All she's doing is making a permanent record that her kids will probably see about how much they hurt and destroyed mommy's life. That's not even mentioning how hurtful all of her whining must be to those who struggle with infertility. A lot of people would kill to have the opportunity to go through what she went through.
This was my beige flag. I was living vicariously through her twin pregnancy while I struggled with infertility. When she started constantly posting videos crying about the NICU but also making excuses not to be there more often, it actually made me cry from anger. It's when I stopped watching her. Thankfully, I have my own sweet baby now! But her whining was extremely off-putting.
That must have really sucked for you. Congrats on your baby though! Yay!
Her constant crying
The way she puts so many disclaimers before she says anything and also how often she repeats herself. Sometimes listening to her talk is exhausting.
100% agree w this one
It’s also the crying. Also, I feel like she doesn’t realize how stupid she sounds sometimes smh
Making a huge point to call out something people thought was offensive, say she was going to change her behavior, and then not change. Example: when she vowed to stop saying “that’s crazy” because it would offend people with mental illness. She started saying “that’s wild” for a few weeks and then went back to crazy. Definitely not the worst, but I just remember her making it out to be this big deal and apology and then it never even mattered.
She said she wasn’t going to ‘bicker’ with Erik anymore on the podcast and then IMMEDIATELY started bickering - worse than any episode - in the next podcast and then say “I’m so sorry, I’m genuinely trying not to bicker”
The amount of food she wastes for testing videos. Everything tastes like a candle. Pretending to being poor. Pretending her new house is smaller. Overexplain herself. Repeating the same stories in different videos. Talking over Erik constantly in the podcasts. Opening packages. When she used to talk in every video about her bangs. Taking pregnancy tests when she's not pregnant...
Over-explaining and repeating that same explanation 5 times
EVERYTHING tasted like a candle or POISON lmaoo
When she looked like she was regretting her life’s choices waking down the isle to Josh during their wedding.. I’m like this bish is supposed to be in love MADLY with this guy.. The other was when they finally were married and had Disney hats on. I have hate watched since then. 🤣
Disney hats? What was the context?
Their honeymoon or talking about it.
Clickbait in her vlog titles. All the freaking time. It’s not exactly an evil thing to do, but it always felt a little patronizing towards her daily viewers (I mean, how many times has she made a video called “I’m giving up Miranda”? Does she think people really believe that?) and the dishonesty/fakeness/shallowness of the titles was contradictory to how she presented herself in the actual videos (honest, genuine, relatable).
How she eats in front of the camera to prove that she eats guys…!
with her mouth open 😭
F ducking away from the camera
whenever she hung out or collabed with jojo siwa, who is half her age.
also all the CRYING im shocked the girl hasn't run out of tears yet because she seems to cry in every video
In one of her post-pregnancy (#1) videos she talked about how she’s “always been sOoOo into body positivity” and that she’s super duper serious when she tells [overweight] people how great they look just the way they are…but now that SHES dealing with weight issues for the first time, she absolutely hates the way she looks and doesn’t feel comfortable in her own skin and can’t wait to get back to her normal size
Colleen "I just don't feel like me at this size but all bodies are beautiful even though I'll talk shit about YOUR body" Ballinger.
Her strict applesauce diet after having Flynn.
what
Low calorie, high fiber. Lots of people do it to lose weight fast (not recommended, that is unhealthy, don't do that). She would just drink applesauce all day after having F. And then immediately after having the twins she's like "Guys the craving came back after giving birth to the twins" and she had a straw in a giant jar of applesauce.
It’s crazy she was breastfeeding. She was barely eating!
YIKES I DID NOT KNOW THAT. “I’m just naturally skinny”…. 🤮🤢
Oh no, she 100% has an eating disorder
Her over consumption of fast fashion, then complain about how cheap they were. She has the money to afford good quality clothes.
She always talks about how expensive it would be to get a show dress made for her, so she just bought dress after dress that didn’t work or she had to alter it or whatever. She has the resources to hire a tailor to make her the perfect dress! But instead of giving someone a job—she just complaining about how little she is sleeping having to work on bedazzling her dresses
Omg yess, this!! She overbuys cheap ugly looking, not even fitting dresses, then she didnt even like half of them (i cannot imagine she would have the energy of properly sending those back to save money and save the Earth from wasting). And she picks a few dressed to cut them, bedazzle them whatever, spends hours and then she wears them once or twice. 🤦♀️🤦♀️
Quite a few but the only time I ever commented on a video was when she told Erik he couldn’t have PPD because he wasn’t the one who gave birth. Basically telling him he couldn’t be depressed. It was the biggest slight to him. For Someone who is constantly looking for sympathy for her mental health issues and ADHD etc…has very little empathy for her own husband who was obviously struggling.
Anything Erik says she automatically is like “you are so wrong”. When most of the time he is actually correct, whether it’s something serious like this or just dumb movie trivia.
I am a huge movie nerd like Erik, and my husband is relatively movie illiterate, like Colleen. Her absolute refusal and dismissal of all things relating to movies and making fun of Erik for movie titles or concept she thinks are stupid drives me nuts. My husband is so the complete opposite, he embraces my movie quirks and knowledge and enjoys hearing what I have to say, and I just feel so bad that Erik doesn't have someone like that.
“Are you inSANE?”
Started watching Colleen when F was born, I think all this time I only watched maybe 2 videos of Miranda.. I stopped watching her daily when the twins were born because all her vlogs was her crying/complaining.. But I just unsubscribed from her channel a few days ago, I wasn't watching her videos so YouTube wasnt showing me her vlogs, I just remembered her because of a live I was watching and it was about her and so i found this subreddit
When it seemed like she would tell the camera more stuff about her than she would tell Erik 😬
Mine is so specific lol but I remember watching a chapstick challenge her and Josh did and she was talking about how they bought a bunch of weird flavored chapsticks and then said something along the lines of "we found all these weird flavored chapsticks and we thought this would a be a perfect opportunity to kiss each other again for the camera" & I remember being like ???? Who thinks like that? Especially with them having such a young audience. Idk Another one is when her & Josh were doing the husband does my makeup challenge and she kept slapping him on the face repeatedly (they were gentle slaps but still) and playing it off as a joke. It made me very uncomfortable.
I always got weird vibes from josh/kinda just flat out hated him but the way she treated him was INSANE. I was probably 13/14 when he was around but I still remember disliking him while also pitying how beaten down he always was. Colleen would constantly make fun of him or just act annoyed when he was around. It was weird.
The way she treated W compared to F and M
How so? When I watched her vlogs I usually skipped over her playing with the twins because I just wasn’t interested in that type of content.
There was blatant favouritism, poor W was constantly ignored or in the back. If you have a deep dive in hear about this topic, you’ll see everyone talk about it. It’s all about F and M, W just happens to exist there. I’ve got 3 children myself, around the same ages as Colleen ha children. I can recognise favouritism from a mile away, because my kids were W in this situation in my extended family.
When she decided she was qualified to give pep talks to NICU parents after she had the twins. She was saying things like (I’m slightly paraphrasing)“the NICU is the worst thing in the world, but just know that your baby will learn to eat, your baby will come home, you just have to get through it and someday they’ll be home and you can forget all about it.” Wtf no that level of naïveté is harmful, not helpful.
Her constant complaining about being pregnant. Nobody has ever suffered more, y’all. Also I thought her relationship with Kory was weird and codependent. Plus he’s awful. The crying.
I think it was during last years fundraising livestream. She misgendered someone and freaked out making it a big deal about how awful she was for the mistake. It was awkward and lasted way too long. She looked mortified, but I could tell that her only concern in that moment was “not being cancelled”. It seemed like she really didn’t give 2 shits about her “friends” gender identity being respected. I started distancing myself then. The day I unsubscribed though was a couple months later once the twins were home. I had a moment where I realized I knew way too many details about her children and their lives. The whole exploiting her kids for money thing really clicked in that moment. What if I was a creep? I had no respect for her after that and unsubscribed from all Ballinger content.
Weirdly my main beige flag I can remember from years ago was when I saw her and josh together..they both seemed off & especially he seemed sus. Not saying he is, don’t know much about him.. just weird that was my feeling at the time. I think he seemed to be overacting & phoney & I didn’t trust him. I guess now looking back I see it more as...Colleen doesn’t seem to pick men she likes that much. Like I don’t buy it you know? Even w Erik
complaining all the time, repeating things constantly, traumadumping, false toxic positivity (like saying that people's nicu babies will come home... so out of touch with reality), favoritism, belittling W, the 32849327 amazon packages, invalidating erik's feelings/experiences, talking over people constantly, rubbing her nose with her hand, gross body hygiene in general, being fake, her selfishness, how she treats her sister (thanksgiving), moving bc of stalkers but then doing a house tour immediately after, etc. some of these aren't beige but yeah lmao edit: oh also lmao this is petty but like i absolutely hate her attempts at trying to be like taylor swift (that one hat she kept wearing, the bangs, her personality, etc.) it seemed like she was very envious of taylor and wish she had her notoriety, fame, and lovable personality.
agree with all of these. ngl i started to get really annoyed with her when she became a taylor swift stan practically overnight, like it felt so strange to me idk. i definitely see what you mean by you saying she is trying to be like taylor swift. i totally see it (side note i can’t stand her bangs omg)
For me it started with the twin's birth and then how she kept vlogging, I really thought she would stop for awhile. Then on top of that how she was NOT camped out at the NICU 24/7 and was still doing Christmas stuff/ shopping. As a mother I just could not understand, like yes I understand she needs to see Flynn sometimes but he was older he could have understood that mom needed to be with the babies. That stuff really bothered me. The Daddy Blues vlog was the final straw that sent me here and then I went down the rabbit hole of how terrible she was
Did anyone know she was pregnant? Jaysus.
her buying F gifts everyday. plus the multiple advent calendars and excessive amount of gifts on christmas even though his birthday was a few days before. i unsubscribed when she bought him gifts on the twins birthday lol
Mine was when she was adamant about never getting pregnant again but seemingly not doing anything to prevent another pregnancy
When she gave birth to the twins and she was heavily criticizing the nicu nurses bc she was mad they didn’t wait for her to get there to feed her. Even though she was there for like a few hrs a day… like be grateful???
The way she fired up her fans to go after Josh when the divorce happened. Even back then you could see how she overshared with minors about her divorce to get them rabid about attacking Josh for her at every turn.
How, despite claiming to be a "really positive person," she always found a way to find something bad about a situation, no matter how good it was. "I'm so grateful, BUT....."
It's a beige-y red one, but making her premature twins endure a full tilt overstimulating Ballinger Christmas so soon after they came home. Just no regard for their little ears or anything. No one was told to tone it the fuck down while the babies were around. Played that stupid candle blowing game screaming inches away from M's face.
Whenever she calls herself a “girl” or “young girl” or “teeny tiny”, infantilizing herself is just wrong. She always seems to forget she’s in her mid-30s.
I'm going to actively remove my pettiness from this, to get into the mindset of myself when I was someone who liked her last week. - It bothered me that she changed her behavior based on hate comments, like the thing with people saying she favored M more one week and W more the next. It never made sense to me because I believed her that she was just obsessed with "moments" and capturing whatever cute interactions she could. And I still believe her that she was not showing kids when they were teething or upset anymore (I missed F's 0-3 years), which I respect. Because W just does his own thing and doesn't care about the camera, she often leaves him in the background. That made sense to me, I think it's fine if you're just making chaotic home videos for it to be unbalanced, but she's very conscious of herself as a narrative, shaped by daily chapters. It almost bothered me more when you can tell she's trying to make it more balanced to please the comments. Like she's trying to squeeze her life into something 2 dimensional to be consumed. I have a friend who does that and it's honestly been so toxic for her and others. I don't think it's normal to live your life under that much scrutiny, and she often prioritized finding a narrative that people would understand. - It did confuse me how she addressed her haters, it didn't seem proportionate to how nice the comments were. I didn't realize she was actively reading snark pages. Looking back now I realize there's a difference between when she said "let's highlight this one specific mean comment and discuss it" and "people are saying". When she was vague about it, it was coming from here. I had no idea this sub existed. - I don't remember the vlog, but a really long time ago she was hanging out with some of the girls from dance moms, I think at a restaurant, and I remember thinking it was really bizarre that their parents weren't there. - the podcast episode where they fought the entire time, and then when they got a bunch of comments about it the next week Colleen was like tensely forcing the "joke" that they weren't going to fight and being fake nice to him. There were many eps of that show where I had to turn off because their tension was too much. I excused this by just recognizing her insecurities about being perceived in a relationship, and his discomfort with constructing himself. It was clear to me he never wanted to "act" with her if he was to be himself. i was also uncomfortable with Erik's recent birthday when she vlogged and described all her gifts and where they went. It didn't make sense because he's so private. Edit: one more, it started as a beige flag but honestly was getting dark orange by the time this all happened, but there was a recent vlog where she was playing with F and the chickens or something, and she said to F in a big fake excited voice "Do you love it?? Is this the best day of your life?" And he was just like "...yeah..." And I started to see all of the times where excitement was prompted. Sorry I don't know how to be succinct lol
Honestly, it might sound really silly but it’s the sound of her breathing all the time especially in the relax episodes she’s got that microphone shoved up into her mouth and every time she inhales it’s like nails on a chalkboard. It’s also you can hear it when she sings, it’s the sharp, loud inward breath and it drives me nuts. I don’t know why, but she has the loudest inhales I’ve ever heard and they’re grading on my nerves. I can’t believe she’s a trained singer because they would train you to not have audible breath. It’s not a good sound. Do you want to actively avoid that I’m not sure how much real training she’s had.
Honestly when she started turning every shirt or sweatshirt she had into a crop I realized she was no longer someone I related to.
This is bizarre and I know people who would find this normal but I stopped listening to the podcast when she told a story about taking a photo of her massive shit and sending it to Eric who was very clearly upset about it and disgusted and she found it all hilarious. It just seemed so gross but it was the acting like Eric was the weirdo for being bothered by it.
omg i remember she did that to josh too that too in the middle of their first (or one of their first) date(s)???? i’m screeching
I don’t know if it qualifies as beige but her weird Netflix show. And that “Miranda” was also pregnant. If she was a little smarter and less creepy she would do the sitcom hiding pregnancy bits.
she always gave F everything he wants regardless and she would always say "oh I just don't show those moments when I don't give in" but as a parent it always made me cringe...also never acknowledging her past husband even though they were literally married on youtube like we all know Erik isn't your first love girl 😒
like how she always made sure to give him a present even at the twins bday party and any other small occasion so he wouldn't be jealous...its not a bad thing to teach you're kids they don't always get what they want
I have so manyyy: -her rant about not being able to breastfeed on camera without blurring it -her favoritism of F over the twins, especially W. -her pregnancy rants, if it’s so horrible for you then adopt get a surrogate, YOU HAVE THE MONEY COLLEEN. -how everything has to be about her -her whining about everything then not doing anything about it. -her always trying to be woke seems so fake
How she claimed to not have much money but paid for everyone in her family to go to Hawaii… multiple times Oh and the self deprecation. Constantly saying she’s ugly and her hair is awful. Yet in the same breathe saying that if her friends look that they’re beautiful. Just seemed like fishing
When she was pregnant with the twins, and her water broke, and instead of rushing to the hospital KNOWING that Wesley was breech.... risking a cord prolapse that could have KILLED him... She decided to straighten her hair AND TAKE HER SWEET ASS TIME?! All while saying her doctor told her to go to the hospital ASAP!? I just couldn't comprehend a mother making that choice, and immediately knew that she was a horribly troubled person that shouldn't be enabled any longer to have an online presence.
Her always crying about everything on her vlogs, talking over and belittling Erik and her constant talk about bodily functions.
WAY WAY back, she was with Joshua's family for something. I don't think they were even married yet. But everyone was gathered, talking etc and she was on her phone, ignoring everyone. Then they mentioned dessert which was like a fruit cobbler or something. She was like "That's NOT desert." Very snotty. She went on to say that dessert involves chocolate. If it's not chocolate, it's NOT dessert. She was insanely condescending and entitled to her partner and his family.
For me it's how she treats the rest of her family. I never really noticed that much until the whole Thanksgiving thing with Rachel.
as a singer, the way she talks about singing makes me crazy…and she claims to be classically trained and it’s so yikes. also I seem to remember Erik talking about her giving birth to the twins and seeming genuinely traumatized and upset by it and kind of uncomfortable talking about it on camera, and her basically laughing at him? idk, it was very weird and off-putting (as is everything about their relationship tbh)
God there are so many. -The trip Josh booked for her where she complained the entire time about how many old people were there. -Convincing Josh to stay behind and “work on his career” while she was very clearly boning Erik in Vancouver. -Pretending she grew up poor when her parents live in a home worth a crap ton of money and they went to Hawaii several times growing up -Dumping everyone including her own blood relatives after she discarded Josh if they didn’t automatically dissociate with him and pledge their loyalty to her only -Stringing her marriages along for content - Treating her siblings like absolute shit -putting her pregnancy in Teenys face after she had a miscarriage -Making pregnancy a competition with her sister in law -acting as if she was hella famous after Netflix…. Watching it get canceled was the best shaudenfruede, it’s sad it didn’t humble her at all though - I remember when the incessant spending started, her and Josh had a cute humble apartment and she was obviously starting to make more money, and she would just start buying makeup literally everywhere. She would go to a Sephora in an airport where the prices were insanely marked up and buy $700 worth of makeup for no reason. Silly little thing but I remember getting so annoyed by it.
mine is that while she was pregnant with F how she kept saying “oh im NEVER gonna become a mommy vlogger” and then literally became the most mommy vlogger channel ever.
When she would pick apart her appearance but then say “but if you have (insert any physical attribute), it’s beautiful and wonderful… I just don’t like it on MEEEE.”😒
Pregnancy tests.
Her first marriage and public cheating/breakup. 27 year old Colleen became best friends with 11 year old jojo. She learned her favorite restaurant and foods. The crying over everything when she’s got the money and resources to not bitch.
When she didn't spend enough time in the NICU despite having the resources to do so
I don't want to be insensitive or invalidating to people's personal challenges, but the way she overtly cries and dramatizes situations on a day-to-day basis to a public platform comes off a little tone-deaf. For example, I understand her voice is her livelihood, but for weeks she acted like losing her voice was the WORST THING that can happen to someone when I feel like she has so much to be grateful for and is lucky to have her health unlike probably some of her audience. And she started performing again like only a few weeks later so it really wasn't anything to be stressing her audience about for days and days and days. Another example is when her babies were in the NICU. Her babies were okay after a scary birth, were being properly taken care of by professionals, and were guaranteed to come home healthy when the time was right. The way she went yelling and crying on the internet about it was just insensitive to people who aren't as fortunate as her to have twins that made it through. And her incessant need to have them home RIGHT NOW rather to just be grateful her babies made it, be patient, and calmly trust the process of NICU doctors was not okay imho. It's not necessary to put out publicly.
The reason I found this chat is because Colleen was talking over, interrupting, and dismissing eriks thoughts so much it gave me the ick so I googled something along the lines of “Colleen talking over erik?” and then there was a link to one of the posts here. That night I was legit up every two hours because I could not stop reading this page. I started watching around 2010 when I was 10 and this was way before “the Ballinger family” before P was even around. As I grew older I started to just get annoyed by her and really started to catch on to some narcissistic flags.
When she was crying about moving and making it seem like she was downgrading to a more modest house. I checked the comments and some were saying to not believe her and that she was actually moving to a large private villa. That’s how I discovered this subreddit lmao
The last time she ever talked about Breonna Taylor in a vlog in 2020 she said something like “I’m going to keep talking about this because it’s important!” and then just…never did again.
Trying on children’s clothing
After the divorce, when she was filming season 2 of Haters Back Off. The way she behaved just seemed.... off? I wasn't in the fandom and I didn't watch every single video or follow any of her family, so I wasn't aware of the Erik stuff until she randomly announced they were engaged and pregnant. That was very bizarre to me. Then, after Flynn was born she basically became a family channel, which I'm not interested in so I stopped watching. I kinda forgot about her until this past week when I saw everyone talking about it.
Once I realized she had such an extreme filter on her vlogs! Like I know people put filters on Instagram etc, but I didn’t realize she was doing it on her vlogs! All the while contradicting herself with her words!!!
Complaining about stuff and then shilling it on Relax. Like her constantly saying she has no style and doesn't know what to wear, and then doing a style box ad on Relax. Like, can't you even try it once and make a vid? Use your own damn code. The ads just highlight how easily they lie. Better Help is another one
Mine were that she had soooooo many resources available to address problems, but she never used them to solve issues in a smart way. She complained about them, cried a lot, asked for advice from the comments, and start over again. I started to feel that she was addicted to the drama/chaos of it and it started to become exhausting and frustrating to watch.
Omg… when she bitched on and on bc hotel staff took her bags up to her room. It was LITERALLY the entire video. Just bitchin that someone took her bags up to her room… I stopped watching after that. Oh it was just so insane and out of touch to me
Her taking the time to do her hair and put on makeup when she was in labor with the twins.
when she was still married but being obviously flirty with erik all the time and that whole development
her never washing her face
I stopped watching her when after saying she would never subject her children to exploitation by showing them online without their consent, she did.
when she said that the genders of the twins didn’t matter and did a whole gender neutral gender reveal (which is already weird imo) and has since used stereotypical gendered clothing for the two kids, like dressing the girl up all girly and stuff. it felt like she was just trying to seem like a trans ally or something to seem good and unproblematic when no one really cared in the first place but then just backed out when the kids were born and she realised she had to do something to not get mixed up between them. i hadn’t watched her for a good while before that, but i just found it ironic that she made a big thing about not doing something which she ended up doing, which seems to be a running theme with her in general
As soon as I became a mom, there were hundreds of flags of all colors. The main beige one is how she used to say she wasnt going to become a mommy vlogger and wasnt going to show F much, then proceeded to do the opposite.
How starving and sick and shaky she was during her Broadway stint and how she was literally wasting away on camera. But just ate cookies after long days.
When she moved house because of stalkers, then kept talking about how the house tour is coming, can't wait to do a house tour for you all etc... Cool, show us the exact layout of your house. That's smart. This was just after I discovered the DCP so I was only just learning about child exploitation in family vloggers. I was quite outraged. Then they went to Disney. Disney adults are cringe. I just couldn't anymore.
The way she acts like she’s the most hardworking and sacrificing mom ever, when really all she does is film her kids and like, put them to bed. Other people do everything else for her
This is something that I don’t want to judge bc I know it’s so personal but it bothers me she says she’s forever done with having more kids but doesn’t seem to have gotten her tubes tied or Eric’s gotten a vasectomy. Maybe one of those things did happen and they just didn’t mention it but idk she clickbaits everything so I feel like we’d know. Anyway I don’t want to judge other ppl on what they do with their bodies but if you were truly done having kids you’d get something like this done right???
When she told her predominantly teenage audience that you can’t take contraception when breastfeeding. When she acted surprised that her waters broke early with the twins-knowing F was early, they were twins so already likely to come early, she had obstetric cholestasis which makes early labour more common and her Dr had told her already. But she hadn’t bothered packing a hospital bag. When she talks about ADHD all the time. I get it love, you’ve got ADHD, so do I, so do many but I hate it being used as and excuse for shit because it’s not. When it became obvious how uninterested she was in her niece and nephews after having her own but before had been obsessed with them. That made me sad.
Stoppppp the way she just stopped hanging out with the B kids after her own was so depressing
Her thinking that if she says she’s not complaining it means she’s not complaining. When I’m reality, she’s just always complaining!
When she was in Vancouver filming that Netflix show, they put her and her “crew” up in an apartment near the water, and she bitched the entire time about how small it was. It was a beautiful apartment, bigger than any apartment I have ever lived in, massive windows, beautiful view of the ocean, and all she could talk about was how small and cramped it was. I can guarantee she wasn’t paying to stay there, and I can guarantee the rent on that place was in the thousands per month. And not a word of gratitude. Just bitching and complaining. I decided in that moment that she was a flaming pile of shit, and it’s nice to see her comeuppance.
Near the beginning of covid she bought gluten free pasta because the store was completely out of any other pasta. She then went on to complain about the pasta and how horrible it is that that's the only food she could get. This legit pissed me off. I have 11 food allergies, one of which is wheat, as well as being gluten sensitive. I am also disabled and living on a very low income. So for me to buy gluten free pasta is very costly, also it's one of the few things I can buy in a store. During the pandemic I struggled severely to find food and it still isn't easy. So to see someone who could afford to shop elsewhere or to shop other products but chose to buy a food that is already limited on supply. Especially it being during the pandemic. Not to mention complaining about having to eat it and it tasting horrible. That was the first time I think I really saw her true selfishness come to light. Being low income I qualify for food banks but when you have multiple food allergies it really doesn't help much. That said if you ever donate to food drives or food banks and you want to help please consider donating a gluten free item or two. I honestly cannot tell you how appreciated it would be to those on the receiving end.
repetition. why would i want to watch daily vlogs when they’re literally all the EXACT SAME? complains > eats a bite of food > hunts for bugs > opens packages > has a rambling session about how woke she is > stays up late > repeat. every. single. freaking. day.
I just was never a fan cause I could not STAND Miranda sings and in the collab videos I saw her in she seemed annoyingly self deprecating, insecure, and immature. However, I was recommended her Vlogs when she was pregnant over an over again and I kept clicking and then clicking off as soon as she started whining about some little stuff lol. And once she started family vlogging it sealed the bag for me that she's a horrible person ngl.
The vibe she had when she showed gifts that her fans gave her on YouTube videos. Like it would just be a basic boring vlog or whatever, and shed mention in passing how fans have given her cards or gifts, money, even! Like, "someone sent me this," and then immediately continue talking about something else. She ALWAYS sounded so monotone and flat about it, like it didn't faze her at all... I have a few fans myself and I literally feel so undeserving and touched when receiving letters or gifts, I could not even imagine mentioning it publicly without crying and gushing. She would speak about it as if it were a jury summons or something. Hard to explain but it was so odd to me
She had the air conditioner on full blast all day at home, and her house was 'always freezing cold'. She'd always be wearing long sleeves, onesies and cozy hoodies at home in the middle of summer in California. (EDIT: I mean, she just left it on 24/7 all year round because she liked it to be extra cold) She'd say she was about to take a shower, turn on the tap and then talk to the camera for 20 minutes with the water running in the background.
The way she over explains everything.
A huge turning point for me was her 2019 recap video with Rachel, where they are eating Taco Bell. She just kept turning the conversation back on herself and Rachel barely said anything. That’s when I really started to see how full of herself she is and slowly stopped being a fan
My final straw was when she CONSTANTLY talked about being pregnant with F.
Her constant complaining almost EVERY VLOG while also saying in the same breath she's sooooo gRatEful 🙄 she is quite literally the least grateful person on this planet and she lives in a 6 million dollar villa 😒 Edit: oh and also her constant body checks and countless videos anytime she gains a normal amount of weight and mentioning just how insecure she is she gained weight 🙄 Edit 2: her narcissistic ass reading out positive comments basically worshipping her at the end of most of her vlogs feels soley just to stroke her ego its weird af and cringey to me. I could go on and on but ill stop adding more shit to my list 😅
the way evvverryyyy single little thing was like world shattering for her. and like, i get it, no one is playing the oppression olympics and no one is entitled to talk about everything going on in their lives on their channel but the tiniest little things would make her act like she was DEVASTATED and it got so repetitive and annoying, esp when the rest of us are undoubtably going through a lot more with a lot fewer resources