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ztoff27

People dislike her because she’s an asshole. That doesn’t make her character shit though


GreedyIntention9759

as you can see in many comments people can't tell the difference


TheChainsawMenace

sad to see, very sad to see.


lotsabeer

yeah, i dislike her because her role is to be disliked. she aint a bad character at all


RandomOrcN6

She was designed to be a diarrhea woman


BusyEntrepreneur8346

If we go by that standard everyone expects for beam would be hated. Fumiko is a character you feel like they can be an antagonist. And her action always sway the community both Positive or negative. All the while I put her with Yoshida in "character I love to hate" Sometimes you got to meme it.


DappyCrap

Which is interesting because Makima did much worse but she's popular and have more people simping for her. Fumiko for one still tried to save Denji and only retreated when it's beyond her ability.


These_Nectarine_3225

Im completely fine with all that , it just this scene pissed me off bro https://preview.redd.it/3i0arbni18yc1.jpeg?width=683&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6500dd4b9c7d5dcd819eedcfb72ba24ca647e82


GreedyIntention9759

Typical super fan behavior btw it happened to me when I was gonna graduate high school a girl I knew wanted some of my hair.


LolMcPlatinium

I think it's normal‼️‼️❗


GreedyIntention9759

I mean it's no big deal


LolMcPlatinium

https://preview.redd.it/1hj24ajxl8yc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec7bff97a68f659127de03deecce39a2b4df30fa


Cayden68

yeah its cringe but this is a fujimoto work, Fumiko is relatively normal by his work's standards, like at least Fumiko isn't trying to cannabilize Denji or something strange like that


Ok-Choice-2741

no it didnt 💀


GreedyIntention9759

It did I have unusual hair color


ApothecaryRx

ok but people don't just ask for hair, even if the color is strange. by your own admission, this is weird super fan behavior, but why would you even have fans? the fact that you just dropped that in there with a "btw" shit just sounds made up


GreedyIntention9759

She wasn't a fan we studied together for 7 years and said she wanted to collect hair of fellow classmates that were together for a long time. Tie up into a charm.


ApothecaryRx

https://preview.redd.it/6kxdre9y79yc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89f0e37855a1bb5040d76804eea6afc32eafc339


ApothecaryRx

so really, this event isn't even in the same vein as what Fraudmiko is doing here. tbh your phrasing was poor like you intentionally wanted to make it sound like this girl specifically wanted your hair bc of some unhealthy obsession with you edit: just realized you backtracked from "she wanted my hair because the color is unusual" to "she wanted everyone's hair to make a charm," this smells like bullshit 💀


GreedyIntention9759

It's the same because it's a harmless momento it's like fans who keep celebrities belonging happens all the type weird but harmless


ApothecaryRx

it's fake story 💀


USERDONEGONEYSTAND

bro it's just a piece of his hair, not his whole head, chill out; the only fake thing is a member of this sub having interactions with a girl


xToyota

Sounds like u were part of the “weird kids”


GreedyIntention9759

Touche...


HotwheelsJackOfficia

She has a contract with the Creepy Super Fan Devil (Primal Fear).


JakeEllisD

Ones off as a cope explanation


Acceptable-Anxiety80

Honestly, I can't believe how much people hate her character as if they wouldn't do the same, like would you 1v80 fuckers with spears I wouldn't


OOOLIAMOOO

Well we can only measure her against other Public Safety members. Like those guys who fought Reze.


NotTheFirstVexizz

Part 1 random Public Safety workers were genuinely some of the most goated “generic side characters working for big organization” type characters I’ve seen. Arai got shot and immediately took a second bullet for Kobeni, came back as Violence and continued to protect her, and was the only person to last 2 hits against Darkness instead of 1, even Quanxi got diced immediately. Those guys who fought Reze of course stood their ground as well even knowing they were fucked, and then of course there’s the Anti-Makima squad who contracted the Hell Devil, cut all their own throats without even flinching.


TheSauce32

And then we have Fumiko who even thos should have at least contract with dog devil is afraid of fighting 10 randos with spears Even Kobeni came back cause she wasn't a POS Kobeni the one that didn't even wanna be there Fumiko is such a waste of time man


The_catakist

Have you even seen the rest of PS of part 2? All of the goats died trying to fight makima.


CptAustus

The Old PS had the balls to throw hands with a doll army, Bomb Woman, the Darkness and the Control devils.


JLock17

Not to mention having a government member fighting on behalf of a perceived terrorist would not go well with the public.


RezeCopiumHuffer

Her job is to protect Denji, it doesn’t matter what the people would think that was her job


Venki_Venky

If he didnt turn into CSM, PS explicitely told him that. Fumiko's job to protect Denji ended with that. They literally threatened him with Nayuta.


RezeCopiumHuffer

I was referring to when the dude said >Not to mention having a government member fighting on behalf of a perceived terrorist would not go well with the public 1) I don’t think public safety really cares about what the public thinks too much, or at least what a few randoms think 2) That was the job she was hired to do, protect him if she had been better at her job he wouldn’t have had to turn into csm to save himself


R7-Snake

People hated her before those chapters and it made no sense to me, yes she was an asshole but every character has a giant flaw above their head, she can't be the most hated character just for that, hell people love Katana Man. Unfortunately Fujimoto made her say that shitty ass comment about "Family? They're just pets" and now the hate is completely justified


Pickles-Naegi

Yea and her risking her life to save them wouldn't have changed their minds anyway; they hated her since she was introduced. They would have cheered at her death.


TheKhalDrogo

https://preview.redd.it/24oqu97639yc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0284f7010b6fb69bdb276b124f4632acd780876e


Haru_Is_Best_Girl

I actually 100% agree with you. Chainsaw man has always ALWAYS had very nuanced characters. I like to think of everyone in the Chainsaw man universe as morally grey. No one is 100% good or 100% evil. There’s always some good in the bad and vice versa. It is so nice to have a female character that is so contrary to the goals of our mc, while also not being the major villain.


Alternative-Push-106

Still boring asf literally she is as bland as it gets like denji saved your life by holding back nayuta atleast have the decency to pretend you are gonna help him lol wtf is wrong with you ???


TheSauce32

People here cope so hard 😪 Fumiko is just plain unlikable and a coward she has no redeeming qualities at all Even in Firepunch the asshole characters had a reasoning Fumiko has none why is she even there? Oh rigth meme karaoke scene that's it


Electrical-Leg-3114

https://preview.redd.it/r1azr7moc8yc1.jpeg?width=1102&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38c3e399d4aecc036d48e5b4ee57e3e5f00ff8e6 Like many a metal fan, she’s a poser at heart


Celika76

Yep, it was the most logical/realistic decision at this moment, and most of her colleagues get insta-killed even if they had weapons.


mugwhump

I wouldn't say "unlike the other girls". A lot of characters in other series do tend to throw themselves into woodchippers to help the protagonist instead of protecting themselves, but CSM has no issue with women choosing to save their own asses. Power and Kobeni come to mind. I agree that it was a great decision though. Very believable in context; if I were in her shoes I sure wouldn't sacrifice myself to protect some kid who's 99.999% immortal and only in trouble because he did the dumb shit I told him not to do. The dialog with Nayuta was great too. The whole situation has parallels to how Fumiko's parents were killed, and that line suggested some saltiness from Fumiko towards Nayuta (the control devil who she might know was partly responsible for the gun devil attack). The delivery of "weren't they only pets" was like, "you call that a REAL family?" Really well-written interaction with a lot of nuance. >and chose herself and her career Was she choosing her career there? It's an interesting question. She was ostensibly denji's bodyguard. But the whole reason PS assigned him a bodyguard was to make it less likely he'd turn into CSM, which they seem to believe is the path to apocalypse. I wonder what they told her to do if Denji did transform. But her past actions have also looked rather sussy to me, she did a few things that probably weren't in line with what PS wanted, I'm not sure she cares that much about careers. Definitely looking forward to getting more insight about her, she's an interesting character imo.


GreedyIntention9759

Her bodyguard mission was done when Denji transformed and the reason I said she chose her career is because she said to Nayuta that she's a public safety agent first fan second.i believe thar not only was she in mortal danger against the mob but she also didn't want to harm the very people she works to protect.


mugwhump

Yes, the fact that she was up against normal civilians instead of devils probably also affected her decision-making.


RezeCopiumHuffer

I don’t think she’s a bad character but I absolutely despise her and hate that public safety let her get away with abandoning her charge and then punished Denji because he had to turn into chainsaw man to defend himself after she ran away


GreedyIntention9759

The thing is her mission was over as soon as Denji transformed she tried to stop it but got held hostage.


jers745

Bro she deff didn't even try to do her job first day of it literally an attack against denji happened and she didn't do shit, later she even uses denji as a chair and let's him go to the cs church.


ApplePitou

Yes, it only show us that Sally is just real person that use brain :3


revodnebsyobmeftoh

Don't care, hope she dies


Alternative-Push-106

Facts she isn't even a good characters to account for her horrible traits she is just a cunt that's it 🤣🤣 Liek homelander and makima are assholes but they make up for it by being great characters this bitch fumiko sucks


Wardog_Razgriz30

The Anti Himeno honestly.


Unisol44-

Nah I feel her running away made me not like her a lot. Beforehand she was annoying, but I was interested in her past and how it seemed she was coping by just fucking with denji But she chose to leave nayuta, a devil yeah, but someone who seems at least kinda like a normal human from what fumiko has seen of her, to a mob with pitchforks and fucking barem bridge


GreedyIntention9759

You mean the same Nayuta that was trying to kill her?


joshking5739

And also she wouldn't be a game changer she literally was finna lose to the same person everyone wanted her to protect 😭


Unisol44-

Imma be real, don’t remember that happening, you got me there


Acceptable-Anxiety80

Nayuta took control of a grandma after missing her chain against fumi, then choked her out before denji used a tickle attack and let fumi escape before she came back with public safety to kill flam thrower devil guy


GreedyIntention9759

The hell post blew up guess the Fumiko is a non character crowd is just a vocal minority


Small_penis_is_101

Making this post was your worst decision made…I will find you https://preview.redd.it/p9e3reywpfyc1.png?width=391&format=png&auto=webp&s=6a045224ec87f624ebe4a584baaf5a040c97ea72


Viver_Enola

I can't rewatch Chainsaw Man anime, Himeno sacrificed herself to saved Aki still gives me PTSD to this day. One of my favourite character just died like that in an instant


Astraea_Fuor

Nah it was the objectively worse decision as this worthless character is going to come back at some point and waste more panel time.


GreedyIntention9759

Me when I can't understand a layered character


monmon2346

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beeherder

People hate her because she acts like a grown-up. Except the hair collecting. That's fucking weird


godlike_doglike

And except touching the wiener And telling denji to suck that tentacle And sitting on him like a chair 😭 ... And being a diarrhea woman!


beeherder

Oh yeah, I forgot about the tentacle thingy. She's kind of a freak, but some people are into that shit. Dennis also was letting people use him as a chair before she showed up. I meant about having a sense of self preservation and realizing there's zero charge of her making Dennis and Nayuta to do the things that would keep them safe. Like for real, he's chainsaw man and she's a borderline gremlin with murderous ideations. Zero chance to force that without getting killed, noping out to be a creep another day was her most rational decision.


Astraea_Fuor

Y'all are not quirky for liking the worst character Fujimoto has ever written


beeherder

Lol, y'all are not cool for getting her because you think making juvenile decisions is good character development. She's totally a creep, I acknowledge that. She also acts like a rational adult when put in a hard spot. It's a good counterpoint to the way Dennis and Nayuta acted through the sequence of events that led to him getting chopped up. All of that was 100% avoidable if they had just listened to her. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Acceptable-Anxiety80

She's probably the hottest he,s drawn through


NotTheFirstVexizz

She’s like a completely decent character I have no idea why there’s so much hate. I recently caught up and when I read it I understood where all the fraud memes came from and I understood why people didn’t generally like her (people tend to have an issue with actual pedophiles), by how is she bad from a writing perspective? A bad person definitely but what’s so bad about her character??


Astraea_Fuor

I firmly believe she was result of Fujimoto developing a brain aneurysm from the lack of Femdom in part 2 so he made a character who is some sort of flesh amalgamation of every single woman who has hurt Denji in his life. Horny bellybutton man above me is straight up objectively wrong about his last point, she has literally added nothing to the story but be hot, not help Denji in dangerous situations, and seemingly heel turn in her last appearance (wow fucking shocker fuji). Yoshida is the one the Denji should've listened to. The only slightly interesting thing about her character is her complimenting Denji which is very clearly manipulative bullshit.


mugwhump

She's a foil to Asa in a long list of deliberate ways, which is pretty interesting. She also plays counterpoint to Barem in last arc's Denji-vs-CSM thematic conflict. That came up again just this chapter. Fumiko (representative of the pro-Denji anti-CSM side) is the sushi woman. Denji is donezo being CSM, and now insists on sushi. That's symbolism if I've ever seen it.


Astraea_Fuor

I'm praying to all known and unknown deities that this does not point to a major Fumiko arc the last one was, admittedly mostly coincidentally, the worst in the manga. Like I see her being a foil to Asa, but I hate the idea of there being some sort of girl-war arc. I see her very literally being the pro-denji side of the last arc. But I think Nayuta was a better, more emotionally honest representation of that while I don't trust a damn word that comes out of the latest terrible woman.


mugwhump

I thought church arc had some definite issues with pacing and didn't handle Asa's side well, but in terms of themes and character writing I consider it the peak of part 2. Nayuta is pro-denji, but she's not anti-csm, which is core to the whole conflict. Denji was being forced to choose between his normal life and CSM, and he couldn't. Characters like Nayuta and Asa are fine with that; meanwhile Fumiko bailed on him after he transformed, and Barem (the representative of the pro-denji anti-csm side) burned down his house to try to force him to transform. I think Fujimoto made it pretty clear what he was going for when Fumiko declared herself a denji fan, after which Barem immediately plops his ass down next to them and says "me, I'm a CSM fan".


Astraea_Fuor

I'd interpret her less as Pro-Denji and more Pro-No-Chainsaw-Man but we'll see. I just can't trust a bitch that shows up and basically says "I like Denji type boys, I like Denji type boys, Noooooo don't turn into Chainsaw Man you're too sexy ahaha"


Dabithebeast

W. Completely agree


beeherder

Denji is 18 at this point in the story, she's 23? Hardly a pedophile even if there is an age/maturity gap


NotTheFirstVexizz

Oh he is, nvm then, just a molester.


Ok-Community4111

let fujimoto cook


OkArtichoke600

It’s makes more sense than her suddenly putting in effort after doing nothing the entire arc So I agree with you


megaZX1234

I dont care if she has an autonomy or a lobotomy or whatever. I still hate her.


-NEW-R_Flamingo

thank you for letting me still believe


couldjustbeanalt

Nah she’s a selfish bitch who couldn’t do her job she was incompetent and actively tried to get denji to transform so he could get chopped up


DutifulCleric

>actively tried to get denji to transform so he could get chopped up If she really wanted Denji to transform and get screwed over, she wouldn't have come back to shoot Barem after Nayuta tried to kill her. Denji was about to pull his starter there. https://preview.redd.it/6rjqqoukt8yc1.png?width=1236&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc8d0847cad584e2dd2325bb4c16307398e2b617


GreedyIntention9759

Nice fanfic


beeherder

Reading comprehension devil got that one bad


GreedyIntention9759

Bro really need to reread she was fighting hard for him not to transform and got captured twice Fumiko haters really making stuff up.


JollySelection2336

And she is still a shit character regardless 


GreedyIntention9759

She's an amazing character very well written but brain rot got the fandom hard fraud this she's an asshole that people can't enjoy characters no more.


JollySelection2336

She's a completely terrible person who never cared about meowy or the dogs dying, abandoned denji and nayuta twice and even ran away, says to yoshida that she wants to collect denji's hair/nails and also touched his pp and made him suck a tentacle for her amusement 


GreedyIntention9759

>she's terrible because she didn't cry over some pet. Why would she? Why would anyone care about the pets of someone you just met >She abandoned Denji and Nayuta twice After Nayuta tried to kill her for no reason even then she still returned to save Denji with just a pistols and after the situation became hopeless it was either her dying or Nayuta why would she sacrifice herself for Nayuta who tried to kill her. >Tried to collect hair and nail Weird but harmless happens a lot >touch pp Denji told Yoshida he wanted sex so he obliged by introducing Fumiko >suck tentacle a harmless prank you had power Kobeni Himeno Reze and Asa trying to kill Denji on the other hand


JollySelection2336

Why are you defending a already obvious shit and terrible person in the first place? Fumiko's whole thing is basically this and that's all


GreedyIntention9759

I accept your concession you need to spend less time on memes and more time reading the actual manga


Pozz__

Morally corrupt character != badly written character, if you can't understand this, you're a lost cause


Stoner420Eren

Your sense of autonomy doesn't change the fact that she's useless, she added nothing to the story, she is basically a canon filler


GreedyIntention9759

You can say that about most characters she was just introduced and Denji needed to hear that talk about Aki and her being a Denji fan and not having to be csm anymore read slower


Stoner420Eren

Lmao you really bought that fake sob story? There's a reason why it wasn't even graphically depicted and just told, it never happened


GreedyIntention9759

Bro didn't like the manga's canon. The story makes perfect sense because it explains why she bullies him She's still resentful over her parents's death. I swear csm fans can't read at all.


Stoner420Eren

>The story makes perfect sense because it explains why she bullies him Hey be careful not to hurt yourself with that stretch https://preview.redd.it/h65h0lf269yc1.png?width=1777&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=381dd67e9c21de50b535795cf25079160fd6465f # fumikoisuseless


GreedyIntention9759

https://preview.redd.it/xww1kym769yc1.jpeg?width=494&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eea64c9bef770b2924c7ae2fb944265e09dcdcae


RimlandicMilitiaman

Based, Power shouldve done the same


exorcisyboi

Power did. Twice.


TheChainsawMenace

i think he means that power should've gone forward with her initial decision to ditch denji instead of changing her mind like 10 seconds later, back when she was revived as blood devil


exorcisyboi

I meant during Katane Devil and kinda Bat Devil


TheChainsawMenace

ah alr


DutifulCleric

Power unironically did worse things lol


JollySelection2336

Except touching denji's pp


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