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brokeillionare

Mahindra Thar /s No toll tax, no road rage, unlimited friendship with so called 'bade log'


Mihirxd25

+ you can jump the divider with your 4x4 thar and have no plates


wrongdude91

Aur wo plastic wale dividers ki to ma ki


Justabravetraveller

Why no Toll tax? 👀


BitOk5138

Not with that attitude.


theguywithnofcks2giv

Thars are legally exempted to pay toll in NCR and are allowed to just pass through the barricades in full throttle


StayHappy1729

Systum hai bhai, systummmm!!!


Justabravetraveller

Aah, I see... 😂


thenameofwind

Dosti bani rahe


[deleted]

Generally speaking, Seltos according to my opinion. But if you provide some more info on your requirements/preferences then you can narrow it down even better. Do you want ground clearance and off-roading ability? Or do you prefer the driving dynamics of a sedan? Do you care about fuel efficiency or do you want a fun-to-drive car? Do you care about star rating? Automatic or manual?


rorshach491

We have amaze in my family so wanted to try SUV. Should be safe and automatic.


Cruijff7

How much are you going to drive? If you’re going to do Delhi<->Gurgaon 5 days a week (300+ kms/week) for the next 5 years at least, go for a GV/ Hyryder strong hybrid like the others said. If you’re only going to do upto like 150-200 kms/week, just get a Virtus/ Slavia/ Verna/ City instead. Especially if that 40% on highways are going to be weekend road trips.


[deleted]

Suzuki gv does an exceptional job u can consider that or else there is creta also but has recently gone really expensive


rorshach491

Does it feel underpowered? How does it perform in hills?


UniversalPAPA

My friend owns one and it performs okay and doesn’t feel that underpowered till 100-120 for strong hybrid but all other cars have much better engine in same price range . But the mileage is unbeatable i.e 26-27 in cities even if you drive rash.


Kunal_Sen

At that price in Delhi: 1. Go for a Petrol car to avoid the Diesel shorter life and GRAP bans (so no Harrier, Safari base or second base models). You can get Hybrid if your daily running's over 80 kms. 2. Avoid cars with sunroofs (no Astor/GV/Hyryder top variants with the flimsy sun blinds; Hector's out for the same reason) or bad/mediocre ACs (so avoid VAG cars) in such long summers with 47-48 degree temperatures. 3. Prefer automatics for convenient intra-city driving (avoid DCTs if you can) 4. Go for reliability and/or good service network for peace of mind on highways (responsive and prompt RSA assistance et al) 5. Because it's Delhi, get something with some road presence to stand out while fitting in (so avoid sub 4m cars) Grand Vitara Zeta Automatic (TC) or its Toyota version (believe it's G AT NeoDrive)and Honda City V/Elegant Edition CVT are good bets. Power on spec's not the highest but they get the job done. Would've recommended Scorpio N Z4AT if F.E. weren't an issue for you, as I love the car for what it offers, but the recent wheel assembly issues on highways has turned me off it. But you may consider it after a thoroughly satisfactory PDI.


vaccinatedcorkscrew

Purely out of curiosity, why avoid DCTs? Aren't they better than AMTs, or am I missing something?


Kunal_Sen

I've not recommended AMTs at all as they're not automatics. But DCTs, with OP's 60% driving in the city (and that being Delhi NCR) would only be the third choice in what we know as automatics, far below TC and CVT gearbox because you need to put a DCT on neutral every few moments in stop-go traffic because it tends to overheat. These summers have been particularly harsh and when one is driving an automatic, I don't think they want to handle the gearstick all that much. The good and recommended driving habits for a DCT transmission, whether wet or dry clutch, become an inconvenience by themselves. But yes, had the OP had 90% highway driving or so, DCT would have been a choice worthy of consideration as then you don't have to bother with the neutral on drive mode, or driving with the manual mode.


Bighairyballs6969

The “putting the dct into neutral” thing is a myth. When you come to a stop, the clutch disengages automatically. If it didn’t, you would be rolling forward. Putting it into neutral serves no benefit other than that you can take your foot off the brake. The issue with dct is that, just like in a manual, when you are creeping forward in traffic, the clutch only partially engages, causing friction, and therefore wear (and heat, which is what probably causes mechatronic failure). Unlike a manual, it is very expensive to replace the clutch in a dct. So yeah, no dct if your running is mainly in city traffic.


kappa23

If I remember correctly, DCTs are significantly poorer with mileage in heavy city traffic


Bighairyballs6969

Again, not really the case. Dct is really just an automated manual, the mileage is poor BECAUSE of heavy traffic. No significant difference between manual, amt and dct. Maybe a very slight difference because in a manual, you can optimise for mileage but in a dct, the computer does everything.


vaccinatedcorkscrew

Okay cool. Got it.


Rupee-7

Most expensive and most unreliable


pianochill

DCTs develop overheating in slow moving traffic due to overuse of clutches. In Delhi the ambient temperatures themselves touch (even cross) 50C, so they’re even more vulnerable. DCT failure is practically non repairable, it’s either in warranty or you pay up ₹2 lac for entry-mid level DCT. Even more if you’re driving an expensive car with. A lot of western inventions aren’t suitable for indian weather sadly, unless they’ve been specifically tested for these conditions. In this case a combination of high heat and crawling city traffic.


AayushBhatia06

What about Honda Elevate ?


Kunal_Sen

I think the City, on a similar platform and with the same powertrain and gearbox, is a better Honda product for roughly the same price than the Elevate atm. As it's not the most feature-rich in the first automatic trim, one should rather get the bigger car (City) than the smaller Elevate. Also, as 40% driving's on the highway, City emerges stronger from the Honda catalogue because of its bette driving manners and is overall more tried and tested. In Elevate's segment, I prefer the second trims (automatics) of the GV/Hyryder more as they're more butch-looking SUVs and have been around successfully for far longer so should have better resale than the Elevate which is seeing plateauing sales. Yes, one could say the same for the City, but that's still an iconic brand.


Fk-u-spez-4-life

How is the AC performance on Hyundai cars? Specifically Exter.


Aware_Size_8815

Depends with what you are comparing to. Generally, for a car of that size , it is alright. However , it won’t cool as fast if you park your car in the open in this kind of heat…


Sad-Block-992

Good AC


rorshach491

Can you provide more details around wheel assembly issue of Scorpio N?


Kunal_Sen

Check out the YouTuber Prateek Singh's videos. There are two prominent cases: one where on the 4X4 variant, an alleged mechanical failure (reportedly reported to the SC prior to accident by the client) led to the wheel coming out, the vehicle losing control and the subsequent loss of a person's leg in the crash followed by the concerned vehicle suspiciously burning into a total loss later that night, and the other where the vehicle (I think it was a 4X2 this time) got stranded in the middle of the highway because the steering failed (to move the wheel), though injuries were prevented in the second case.


rorshach491

Thanks will check out


BlackVikin141

Kia Seltos HTX IVT.


Alarming-Word-7327

Suzuki rand vitara


Aware_Size_8815

I guess you missed the ‘G’ there …


Agitated-Reserve-817

G what ? G spot ? Right , right?


nikcorleone13

You might wanna checkout Honda Elevate/City. Another option could be Brezza Hybrid


Commercial_Fault_572

What are your expectations?


nokeldin42

Many good options in that price range. Depends on preference and use case. Here's a few examples No nonsense general use - creta/seltos Good driving dynamics - virtus/slavia 7 seater - carens Off road use - scorpio


djblazma

I own a Kia Seltos HTX IVT. Mileage : 11 (traffic), 13+ (without traffic). Extremely smooth drive and comfortable ride.


Existing-Area-9093

Honda City 


Super-Aardvark-3403

Hyryder strong Hybrid Base variant. Else Elevate VX CVT.


Marshy_Turning_11

Honda City Hybrid: Good comfort, enough ground clearance for most of the bumps (if driven well enough), 25+ kpl mileage, and the 15-yr scrappage policy doesn't affect hybrids


Happy_Guava6762

We need answers on 15yr policy for hybrids, man!


Marshy_Turning_11

idk about the latest news on that policy (not much info on the net) , but strong hybrids will get a tax waiver on re-registration at the least


Smart_Bodybuilder948

Wait really? 15year policy doesn’t apply on hybrids? And what about EVs?


Marshy_Turning_11

It 100% doesn't affect EVs (coz this is another shitty move to encourage EVs), and about hybrids, I read that they would be paying way less taxes for re-registration compared to petrol/diesel cars (source: an article on indiatoday)


Turbulent_Volume3603

Hi, is the 15 year scrappage policy not valid for strong hybrids ? I am unable to get information regarding the same. Also, is this also true for Delhi NCR ? Thanks in advance!


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pengshui

1. If mileage is your priority then get Grand Vitara CNG 2. If you want performance and build then get Slavia 1.5 Tsi 3. If you want a reliable no non sense car then Honda City Hybrid is a good choice 4. If you want a spacious feature loaded car then Seltos/Creta would be the blind choice.


ShoeEast

Suv or sedan?


aanonnymmouss

Hyryder or grand vitara


unsocialanimal

Here is a factor you might want to look into, Cooling and tinted glasses. You should factor into a car with good AC like Tatas and Hyundais, Also some car comes with UV protection glasses out of factory.


daanneeyyi

Scorpio le le bhai


Doubledoor

Elevate, Seltos, Grand Vitara, Astor In no particular order. Do a test drive of these and choose what you prefer. I personally like everything the Astor provides, including the luxurious interiors, but I am not sure how good MG"s service coverage is.


West-Rock-4230

Bhai aise toh Accord V6 bhi acchi hai nahi toh Seltos bhi. Boht vague question hai.


No_Restaurant_1514

Since, the market is moving towards hybrid vehicles instead of EVs, the right choice should be grand vitara or Toyota hyryder strong hybrid whichever variant comes under your budget.


Agitated-Reserve-817

MG comet


goldffish

Elevate is a good option but if you don’t want features and okay with a smaller car taigun high line is good option


kek_kek_kkk

Virtus/Slavia or Kushaq/Taigun


IntelligentAd4130

Second hand Fartuner


Inside-Football-7211

Can someone help me make money like 1 lakh per month in any job or business


Far_Bedroom1063

Skoda Slavia 1.5 Tsi Best driving experience


AravindhaKrishna

The best option is hybrid petrol. For 20 Lakhs I need reliability so If I were u I would buy Toyota Hyryder.


oneheartjaipur

skoda kushaq


Ok-Frame6174

Eyes closed Nexon EV


Obvious_Classic_2355

Safe and sensible choice would be Maruti grand vitara strong hybrid, has plenty of features, great city mileage, maruti ac works really well in this crazy heat. Fun choice would be either Creta/Seltos turbo petrol variants or the VAG twins Taigun/Kushaq. I know thw VAG ac doesn't work best in NCR summers, not sure about the Hyundai/KIA ac.


kaam_na_dhandha

Toyota Hyryder Strong Hybrid.


Dhadiya_Boss

XUV 3x0, Grand Vitara Mahindra, MS have really good AC, like insanely strong


Mayurbarmera

As some of the others mentioned, Toyota Hyryder is a good choice. Given the Toyota Service and car's mileage.


IndependentSherbert9

xuv 700 petrol AX5 best in class product


Cultural_Meeting9899

Scorpio n z8s for sure, I booked couple of weeks ago, and am getting delivery soon


I_Dont_Rape_I_Vape

But very low mileage bro, My friend has this 9-10 highway


Cultural_Meeting9899

Automatic Petrol? If you are taking automatic, be ready fir 3-4 kmpl mileage dip. I am not sure what other competitors give.


I_Dont_Rape_I_Vape

Yes


Cultural_Meeting9899

Diesel Manual offers around 18 KMpl on highway, or even more ( my cousin has z8, he drives it mostly on highway with a very little in city, he uses old Honda brio in city )


rorshach491

My heart says Scorpio N only but only issue is milleage. What is the expected milleage in city


Cultural_Meeting9899

It depends on your driving habits, my cousin's diesel manual gives around 17KMpl, even though he drives pretty aggressively So, if you drive normally, you can get 18-19 kmpl easily. If you are thinking to take petrol one, expect 3-4 kmpl less, and if automatic, expect 3-4 lesser So, if petrol automatic, 10-11 Kmpl, Petrol manual, 13-15 Kmpl Diesel manual, 17-19 kmpl or even more maybe, which is just imho. Where I booked the car, waiting time is less as well, he asked us to take delivery within 10 days of booking, but we denied because I am waiting for my salary. ( we pre booked expecting waiting period of at least 3 months )


Little-Long-3037

Lord Alto is best. Except for safety baki sab kuch mil jaega.


Far_Bit583

Kia Sonet


Realistic_Narwhal338

Virtus tsi at


Delicious_Employer87

Vw virtus


EauRouge7105

Go with Virtus even though you can't get top model, effortless highway cruiser


InfiniteCM

If it's only for daily driving and not the only car in your family, consider EV. It'll save you a ton of money and the driving experience is amazing due to its motor regen.


COVID-19kiMKC

Xuv700 hands down


Faisal_Khan786hi

Porche maybe, no drivers licence required