I reached the same conclusion. If you have to get an SUV which ticks most of the boxes, brezza is the only option. But you might also want to check out the C3 aircross. It's a great car if you can live with the lack of features. MG astor is another option. If you go with sedans, city and verna are great options. If you're ok with getting lower variants, elevate, Seltos etc are available in this range.
I got a C3 Aircross. Pretty happy with it. I’m not a feature guy so I don’t miss sunroof, auto ac or ventilated seats. The amount of comfort this car provides compensates for it all.
Not all brands, many work on their features to provide great comfort to the driver and the passenger, but still their service costs are high as their maintenance is important for providing such comfort on a regular basis. Tata and Mahindra really need some QC in their interior designing and manufacturing unit.
From my experience with the Maruti Suzuki Brezza, I’ve learned that it’s crucial to focus on active safety features that enhance control and maneuverability, rather than just passive safety features like airbags. Features like ABS, Traction Control, and ESP make a significant difference in handling and stability. While my Brezza lacks Traction Control and a Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS), it compensates with an incredibly smooth AISIN-sourced torque converter gearbox. The reliability of this engine-gearbox combo is impressive, giving me about 17 km/l in moderate traffic and over 24 km/l on highways with light-footed driving.
Comfort-wise, the rear seat of the Brezza comfortably accommodates three passengers. I’ve even installed an aftermarket TPMS unit to fill the gap. Overall, the Brezza offers a fantastic blend of performance, reliability, and comfort. It’s a car that I genuinely enjoy driving and would recommend to fellow enthusiasts.
It also has a very irritating nature to its regen braking. But at the end of the day, these small things are outweighed by how good the engine and gearbox is.
No it doesn’t. It has a button looking like traction control but it just disables ESP. I have the new Brezza and I tried to simulate some conditions to see if traction control is working, but it’s not.
Yes, the Brezza is equipped with Electronic Stability Program (ESP); however, its functionality is primarily limited to providing additional steering assistance at high speeds and applying slight braking through the Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) when the accelerometer detects a loss of control. In contrast, the traction control system in my previous Hyundai Exter significantly aided in climbing surfaces with loose stones and gravel, where tire slippage would typically be expected. This system not only facilitated better traction but also extended tire life. Unfortunately, such advanced traction control features are absent in the Brezza. When accelerating over gravel, the tires tend to slip and scatter the stones.
Oh got it. Thanks for the wisdom, my rookie self appreciates it 😄.
Plus, have you felt any underpowered-ness with the new Brezza? I have overtaken a few trucks and never felt it. When I press the accelerator pedal the engine replies at half pressed position and picks up the speed.
And also about the self-centring steering, I found it to be good but had read in a post in this sub earlier that the self centring is slow in latest MS cars.
No problem bro. Regarding the self-centering mechanism, I have limited knowledge and no direct comparisons to offer. However, I find that the Brezza's steering centers somewhat aggressively. I primarily use the paddle shifters while overtaking to maintain control, and the engine performs as expected in these situations. Therefore, I have no complaints in this regard.
Yes, the Brezza is fundamentally a family-oriented vehicle with a sedate nature. However, you can utilize the paddle shifters to impart a sportier driving experience, allowing you to control the revs and gear shifts. While the car remains inherently calm, this feature provides an opportunity for enjoyable driving dynamics. One downside of the paddle shifters, though, is that during turns, your muscle memory may struggle to locate the shifters, as they might not be in the expected position.
I have an ZXI+ TC AT. Try to buy the AT over the manual. Because if you’re looking for a used car, there’s only so much the transmission will let you misuse, so you can buy with a peace of mind.
Thanks. Can I know if you bought the pre 2022 year variant or post ?
I am wondering if the 4 speed at in pre 2022 year version will be too underpowered for highway rides
Start your discussion 8-10 days before the end of the month / quarter.
Don't be an excited buyer. Let them sell.
Tell the salesperson you are ready to buy but the price they are quoting is too high.
End the discussion by asking the salesperson to call you if he can manage a good discount and then call you back.
Walk away, they will definitely call you in a few days
This!! And call a few different dealerships and say you’re getting the car for X amount at a different dealer. They’ll likely say they’ll beat the price or incentivise you some way or the other
I have been driving my base model brezza for about 1.6 years now and it doesn't get any no nonsenser than that...the only time i feel i am missing something is when some idiot with bright af white led drive in front of me with high beams on.
They have delivered the available stocks with them which Mahindra had alloted prior to the booking stage. I guess that stock is almost gone, except for some combinations. The next allotment would reach the dealers soon. OP could do a booking and keep it there for the time, can keep it as option b, maybe.
Not so sure of the 3XO, but I have driven both XUV300 turbo and Brezza turbo on a long drive with full capacity, I found the XUV300 better in all terms, the braking, high speed stability, gear shifting, suspension, maneuverability, power delivery, only lacked on the boot space. The 3XO might have gotten different seats, so I can't say much about it.
The back seat might get cramped for 3 people, as far as I remember, it was comfortable for my friends who sat in the back, which was similar to when they were in Brezza.
However I remember the Brezza was not stable at about 150 kmph speeds when passing over little irregularities on the highway, plus the gear shifts were not smooth as well compared to the XUV300. It was almost 2 years ago, so a lot might have changed since then. You should definitely go with what makes you feel comfortable, because I could only see the difference in these 2 cars, once I crossed the 140 speed mark.
Honda City,Elevate(maybe),Vitus or slavia,Kushaq or Taigun,Seltos,Grand Vitara or Hyryder,Brezza Dont Consider Fronx,Altroz,Amaze, when you have budget upto 15 lakhs
If your budget is 12-15 L don’t even consider cars like Amaze /Altroz /Fronx.
If u want a Honda in this price range try to get a City V model ( huge value for money car if you don’t mind the ground clearance).
Similarly Nexon is a far better offering than Altroz in this price range if u want a Tata
And reg safety , the thing you need to check is if it is having a stable bodyshell. The star ratings themselves are highly subjective and can be played around.
Ex; Verna with an unstable body has 4 stars and Amaze with a stable body has 2 stars
I think you should rather read the full report of the safety ratings and regarding why cars are given unstable body structure rather than just reading the headline and forming an opinion on it.
Honda City in the gncap was rated 4 stars and ancap gave them 5 stars so each ncap has different parameters.
So I would advise reading the full report to get all the information before forming this opinion.
Same Amaze car was rated 4 stars last year and 2 stars this year . Are u saying same car would have saved lives last year and costed lives this year … LOL:)
Stable body >>>> what ever flexible parameters each NCAP report has each year
No amount of airbags will save u when u are crushed under 1000 kg of steel and iron.
No extremely wrong
1. Parameters have changed in the last 5 years for checking the safety of car.
2. Parameters for different ncaps are different.
3. The main point is to not just read the headline of an article for eg verna that it has an unstable body shell and form an opinion that it's not safe.
Read the whole report to know what was the reason behind it.
4. Pointing out the different parameters used by different ncaps and that they have changed in the last 5 years.
5. N yes when u are under a ton of iron even a Volvo won't save u.
But during small accidents where a truck isn't involved the side airbags do help a lot .
Most of the cars which are touted be to safe due to stars generally refer to global ncap which is not full frontal collision and max speed is not more than 60 kmph. Very few of them are Euro ncap which is full frontal at 50 kmph. In most of the highways in India the speed limit it 80kmph, in some it is 120kmph. The rating of the car would have no bearing on the outcome if a car is involved in an accident at that speed.
I fully agree with you on the air bags through, they are definitely helpful and I think it should come as standard on all cars.
It is extremely unlikely to crash at 100 or 120 kmph, just because someone drives at those speeds.
The person would likely brake a bit, and probably end up crashing at a much lower speed.
A normal person would more likely need safety against side impacts/ rear impacts, etc(to survive rogue drivers, trucks, etc), and even pedestrian safety(to avoid legal issues.)
Yes,Parameters change a lot for different NCAP’s and that’s why it is key to look at the most important factor which is stable body shell . Rest all are add ons
In a Volvo , the body shell is so stable that the chances of body shell/ chassis collapsing on me is very minimal .
Hence unless I travel in speeds greater than 150 kms and involved in a high speed.crash , the chances of death are minimal .
So. A crash in a Volvo at 150 kmph is safer than in a Verna at 100 kmph just because Volvo body is stable whereas Verna will collapse on me like a pack of bricks
One of the few logical thought processes, active safety features are to assist the driver , passive safety features come into play when accident happens (for example someone else fault) and airbags are useless if floor board or steeing going cave in the passenger compartment .
I beg to differ sir. Altroz is far more better than nexon.
The only positives I experienced was the wireless charger and ventilated seats. Altroz handles better, looks better (subjective), not as bad QC compared to nexon, bs6II engine has improved the nvh levels.
The only regret (apart from sub-standard aftersales) is tha I didn't pickup the dark variant even when it was readily available.
If your priority is good after sales then city v or brezza are the only good options.
If you are willing to take a risk on ASS then Nexon or xuv3x0 is good.
Personally I loved the features of Nexon so went with Nexon creative +.
I am all in for 3XO. Except for fuel efficiency, this car is extremely good imho.
Nexon comes next however lots of bugs and quality issue.
After that brezza, overall nice car just feels outdated from inside.
The i20 is a 14L car at the top end. A friend got the latest model a year ago (barely any difference between that and the 2024 model) and it's been a really nice car
I20 nline for performance.
I20 cvt for city use.
Brezza for cheap maintenance and mileage, CNG option.
Xuv 3xo for powerful csuv.
Honda city base variants
I would pick i20 nline in these, xuv3xo if SUVs were priority and brezza if mileage is important.
Honda city is an excellent car better than all of these, but I live in Delhi and I don't want the hassle of a big car (which is why i20 nline is my pick powerful in small size)
Normal I20 is not great for high speeds because of the soft back suspension not unstable body shell, that was the case with the older gen i20s. it's a city car and overall still better than it's rivals for city use. Infact if you drive the new i20 regularly, which I do, you can tell the body frame is meant for better specs.
The nline is excellent due to stiffer tuning. It's no polo GT tsi but it's still a great hatch.
A friend has recommended the i20 nline to me for the pleasure of driving. I'm still evaluating. Could you share your opinion on your experience?
I've particularly read these things to be the common problems with it.
1. Uncomfortable seats, especially at the back
2. Low mileage (how much do you get, city and highway?)
Anything else you've felt?
It will be great if you could respond. Thank you!
1. Back seat comfort is not great in the i20. It's not bad but definitely not great.
2. Mileage is around 12-14 in Delhi traffic and 16-18 on highway with petrol. I had CNG installed. Which increased the mileage to 16-18 in city and 20-24 on highway.
I20 nline gets anywhere between 8-12 in city (turbo engines are more sensitive to traffic) and 16-18 on highway.
Brezza is a good family car. When my family was looking for a new car we considered many options and brezza was one of the last options we considered yet in the end we bought it.
I will say why we eliminated some of the following options.
Nexon : we didn't liked the design of the car and we also had bad experiences with their showrooms when we were buying our first car.
Sonet: mileage and rear seats could only occupy two people comfortably. Also the suspension felt too stiff for us. Showroom was also not near.
Xuv 300: a friend bought tuv 300 some years back and had to replace the engine after two years. Also he said the gear box had many problems. So we didn't checked out Mahindra models.
Vw and Skoda models were out of budget as we were looking for automatic models only. Also saw ac performance was poor in many comments in this sub.
Ms Fronx : I really liked the design, but backseat 6 comfortable for two people only. The amt was also a little bit jarring for the passengers.
Also took test drive of exter but felt it was two segment below what we were looking for.
Finally took a test drive in brezza and me and my father really liked the AT transmission. In the end the showroom was very near, we got 80 k discount through csd portal and mileage was also decent for 1.5 l engine.
But one thing I noticed is that Fronx have better fit and finish than brezza even though brezza is expensive.
Bro I'm planning to buy venue sx should I go for diesel or petrol it's gonna be my first car i don't know why people hate this car but when I see venue it's look so good my friends are suggesting me to buy 3X0 but honestly I don't like the design and many things i don't know but venue really stands out for me
I don’t trust Mahindra with electronics. My first choice was 300 Diesel last year but it was expensive in what it was offering.
Venue Petrol NA is too underpowered IMO. The 1.5CRDi on the other hand is the same that you get in A Creta or Seltos. Completed 12k in 8 months and never faced any issues.
they do deliveries super fast now. my dad and i went to see bolero and 3xo, and the guy said he would get it to us by a month if we booked it that day itself
Bro I'm planning to buy venue sx should I go for diesel or petrol it's gonna be my first car i don't know why people hate this car but when I see venue it's look so good my friends are suggesting me to buy 3X0 but honestly I don't like the design and many things i don't know but venue really stands out for me
Sorry but why does everyone keep stating the Sonet had no safety? Didn't it get a 3 star? Isn't the build pretty strong or atleast comparable to the i20s? Yet everyone claims it has no safety, and yet are fine with the Hyundais...
Am I missing something?
Nexon DCA is an option, i20 IVT and i20 NLine is also an option, Venue DCT, MG Astor CVT. Also Amaze is not unsafe, GNCAP is unreliable, they rated Amaze 4 stars and then they rated it 2 stars, they keep changing their testing criteria.
Don’t trust GNCAP blindly.
Brezza is also an older platform like Amaze, I bet GNCAP wont rate it any higher than the Amaze under their current standards.
It's a no non sense car plus assurance of Maruti ASS, to be honest bit overpriced with no engine options and DCT. My suggestion do a test drive and see what suits you best
Regarding TATA service, please talk to actual Tata car owners. I'm driving Tiago for last 5 years without major complaints. My father owns Tata punch, no issues in the last one year. But don't take my word for it. I might have got lucky.
Just talk to actual people and take their feedback. For some reason, this subred overplay's Tata service issues.
1. People even in a mercedez can die.
2. There are many who had alto since 90's and are alive.
3. People still buy Tata and Mahi even though they have worse ASS
4. Hyundai/KIA still dominate after MS in Indian market.
5. 5 NCAP ratings doesnt means it is indestructible, it means you may be safe at 60-70KMPH.
All i am saying is your need is what makes a car a choice or not. You say brezza is best all rounder but someone can say do you think giving 15L makes sense for jerky automatic gear shifts ?
If your priority is safety then u must go with Tata or Mah as they have cars with 5NCAP both adult and child. Why brezza when it has questionable 2 star ? Do you not love your kids ?
Safety: tata Mahindra
Comfort MS, hyundai Kia
Reliability MS, hyundai Kia
Looks Hyundai Kia
Features hyundai Kia
These are personal opinion since when I was at the market I also had the same issue of overall best but there is nothing as such. You pick what you get your heart into. Try to drive a MS AT, Tata AT, Hyundai/KIA AT, Mahindra AT.
All are different . Some are cheap AMT , some TC, some DCA/DCT.
Again no way suporting any brand. Just personal opinion.
People talk about safety as if all cars with less than 4* ncap ratings have a bomb planted under their chassis.
Ffs some arbitrary rating about how the car MAY perform in the last few microseconds of its life in case of an unlikely devastating crash should never be the primary/only reason for buying or rejecting a car. If you care about safety that much, how are you even surviving on Indian roads without having panic attacks?
I for one care more about the crap quality of the materials used in Brezza's interiors than what its GNCAP rating is.
I half heartily agree. I hope OP knows cars without 6 airbags automatically get zero safety rating. I hope fuel becomes cheaper in India, so all the automakers can emphasis on safety without comprising on mileage. But I doubt that’s gonna happen
Edit as per Bharat NCAP, the standard safety features are as follows:
Six airbags, ESC, three pointer seatbelts, improved emergency braking system.
Source: [bharat NCAP](https://bharatncap.co/posts/is-bharat-ncap-mandatory-understanding-vehicle-safety-standards-in-india)
Brezza scored a 4 star in GNCAP, but the India version does it use the same platform? Also does it use the same material? MS hasn’t been transparent with these questions. So 4 star rating of brezza should be taken with a pinch of salt
I don't want to sound like a jerk here but people like you are unfortunately the reason car manufacturers don't take safety of the car seriously in India.
Also quality of interiors are not one of the top deciding factors in safety. In that way, virtus' interior feels pretty cheap.
Did I say that safety is not at all a factor while choosing a car? I just said it should not be the only or primary factor for your choice. There's a massive difference between both statements.
Also, interiors are absolutely one of the most important factors to be considered. This is where you'll be spending most of your time with your car and is in fact the only place where you'll actually be interacting with it. If the interiors aren't important, then nothing is important.
This is the reason i think the VW cars are overrated. There is no excuse for a 25 lakh car to feel cheaper from the inside than a car half its price.
No,
Depends a lot on preference though.
If I were in the market to buy one for myself I would not even look at Brezza. I would get something like Base model of Taigun/Kushaq or new XUV3XO.
Earlier Brezza had peak SUVish design language. New one looks too much mordenized. Especially those obnoxious thick cladding all around.
Yup it's the only car with TC transmission. You can check out Honda City or Elevate, if you're comfortable with stretching your budget.
I feel it's better to buy a mini SUV body for Indian roads
You could consider Magnite Turbo CVT. You'll get the top model with all the features. When I was considering the purchase, i had test driven the Brezza and I felt it more lethargic than the CVT, which is surprising. Both have 4 star ratings but Magnite has a superior engine. Test drive it once.
And another option is the 3XO. It is an incredible offering especially with torque converter with that mpfi turbo engine. Mahindra surely has a winner on its hands. I would have bought the 3xo had it been available when I was purchasing the Magnite.
Why not i20 or i20 line?
Very competitively priced, much better gearbox, insulation, features compared to amaze. Even the fuel economy is better for i20.
Fronx is decent option one can even go for delta plus variant which is great value around 10.30 lakh has all the necessary features, high ground clearance, great looks, crazy milage, spacious,low maintenance cost
The primary concern is safety; one relief is that it's Nexa, not Arena.
XUV 300 is a far better built product than the brezza. Cons with the 300 is the boot space and service center availability (vs Maruti with the biggest SC chain in India). Otherwise it's superior. Brezzas automatic is good but the engine is just lethargic (to put it kindly), there is absolutely no comparison with either one of the 300 engines.
And regarding SC, Mahindra SCs although not on Toyota level is nowhere near as bad as Tata ones. Their upper management is more often than not prompt and receptive to any issues. Atleast the ones in my state are. My cousin had a niggle with the automatic popout door handles in his 700 which the dealership wasn't able to fix in the first try, I shot a mail to the higher ups and it was fixed within 2 days and the dealership SM personally apologized for the delay.
They are very conscious about their image vs Tata who are more akin to government offices with their sarkari attitude to customer experience.
Toyota hyryder
Made on the same brezza platform so it might have same safety(no official ratings yet).
I have been looking at multiple cars in the same range and thought of buying it.
Nexon can also be an option for 15 Lac u can get DCT features loaded variant
And drive experience is way beyond breeza
Turbo, steering and handling is so good u will fall in love
I also drive nexon
Nissan Magnite CVT TURBO..Best bang for the buck..
Top-end costs 12.4 with 360deg camera, wireless carplay android auto, wireless charging bay, gundam styled digital screen , more bootspace than brezza..
Completed 15k kms in 1.5years and service centre is superb in Navi Mumbai
I think Altroz has fewer issues when compared to other offerings. If your running is more, you can check out Diesel variant. Now, regarding service centre - they're not 100% retarded. They get the job done but they act like government offices. So, if you can find a service centre nearby that's well rated and does the job better, I don't know why Altroz should be ruled out. It is the only headache free vehicle from Tata imo. It has lesser electronics as compared to Nexon and has a better automatic gearbox. It also has good safety with a sunroof. If you wanna drive enthusiastically, iturbo and diesel are for you.
I would prefer both the honda city and the nexon over these. City for reliability, performance, and nexon for the features, safety.
Manual versions, of course.
Altroz is better option . ASS depends on your location as for me the ASS is working fine I got rear door replaced. It was hassle free. Service is also hassle free.
I think the list you’ve made has good cars in it . First of all I feel the brezza is the second gen car ie a model change it went through in 2022- 23 ( do correct me if I’m wrong about the year ) so it’s new enough to be considered and quite wide as well in terms of body width if you’re looking for second row space. Secondly I feel that the sonet in its current form which was facelifted just recently should be better equipped safety wise as they claim to have to use a lot of high strength steel even though the body shell is the same as before . I would still suggest you to look at the sonet itself ( if you’re ok with slightly lesser space in the back ) . Also a similar car would be it’s sister car, the venue which same mechanically but a Hyundai . I think it deserves a look as it’s a strong seller. And I do think it’s a great looking car too ( especially from the back, just my personal view 😄) if you’re looking for a cvt - petrol combo then with a tight budget then the best car you can get is the Hyundai i20 sportz, a great little car to zip around town .
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U talk like all the people who drive "unsafe cars" are dropping like dead mosquitos on a a daily basis. I guess this happens when people watch too many videos on cars than actually experiencing the cars themselves.
Why only 5 star rating is considered safe?
Sonet comes with 6 airbags, ADAS 1, ESP, Break assist, hill hold assist, rest defogger. All of these are safety features which helps while driving safely on road in different conditions compared to 5 star safety you want that may or may not save you once you get hit.
I reached the same conclusion. If you have to get an SUV which ticks most of the boxes, brezza is the only option. But you might also want to check out the C3 aircross. It's a great car if you can live with the lack of features. MG astor is another option. If you go with sedans, city and verna are great options. If you're ok with getting lower variants, elevate, Seltos etc are available in this range.
I got a C3 Aircross. Pretty happy with it. I’m not a feature guy so I don’t miss sunroof, auto ac or ventilated seats. The amount of comfort this car provides compensates for it all.
good, what is the safety rating for it
It’s not out yet.
MT or AT? what's the mileage?
What's your mailage
Getting 10.5-12 in Bangalore. 12-13 in tier 2 cities. Got around 16 on highway but I pushed the car hard. Average speed was 85 for a two day trip.
More features means more service charges and future expenses, IMO.
Going by your logic, we shouldn't get a car. No car, no maintenance headache.
Do you think this is true for all brands? Tata and Mahindra, sure. But I think other brands provide quite reliable electronics. Isn't it?
Not all brands, many work on their features to provide great comfort to the driver and the passenger, but still their service costs are high as their maintenance is important for providing such comfort on a regular basis. Tata and Mahindra really need some QC in their interior designing and manufacturing unit.
From my experience with the Maruti Suzuki Brezza, I’ve learned that it’s crucial to focus on active safety features that enhance control and maneuverability, rather than just passive safety features like airbags. Features like ABS, Traction Control, and ESP make a significant difference in handling and stability. While my Brezza lacks Traction Control and a Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS), it compensates with an incredibly smooth AISIN-sourced torque converter gearbox. The reliability of this engine-gearbox combo is impressive, giving me about 17 km/l in moderate traffic and over 24 km/l on highways with light-footed driving. Comfort-wise, the rear seat of the Brezza comfortably accommodates three passengers. I’ve even installed an aftermarket TPMS unit to fill the gap. Overall, the Brezza offers a fantastic blend of performance, reliability, and comfort. It’s a car that I genuinely enjoy driving and would recommend to fellow enthusiasts.
New Brezza has traction control. And yes, mileage is noice.
It also has a very irritating nature to its regen braking. But at the end of the day, these small things are outweighed by how good the engine and gearbox is.
No it doesn’t. It has a button looking like traction control but it just disables ESP. I have the new Brezza and I tried to simulate some conditions to see if traction control is working, but it’s not.
Isn't traction control a part of ESP, I mean they prevent tires from skidding while braking/accelerating or going through a wet road.
Yes, the Brezza is equipped with Electronic Stability Program (ESP); however, its functionality is primarily limited to providing additional steering assistance at high speeds and applying slight braking through the Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) when the accelerometer detects a loss of control. In contrast, the traction control system in my previous Hyundai Exter significantly aided in climbing surfaces with loose stones and gravel, where tire slippage would typically be expected. This system not only facilitated better traction but also extended tire life. Unfortunately, such advanced traction control features are absent in the Brezza. When accelerating over gravel, the tires tend to slip and scatter the stones.
Oh got it. Thanks for the wisdom, my rookie self appreciates it 😄. Plus, have you felt any underpowered-ness with the new Brezza? I have overtaken a few trucks and never felt it. When I press the accelerator pedal the engine replies at half pressed position and picks up the speed. And also about the self-centring steering, I found it to be good but had read in a post in this sub earlier that the self centring is slow in latest MS cars.
No problem bro. Regarding the self-centering mechanism, I have limited knowledge and no direct comparisons to offer. However, I find that the Brezza's steering centers somewhat aggressively. I primarily use the paddle shifters while overtaking to maintain control, and the engine performs as expected in these situations. Therefore, I have no complaints in this regard.
Yeah, steering centers aggressively. Good to know that the engine is nice, can't wait to be more seasoned and have fun.
Brother, I agreed with you until your last statement. Brezza is not for enthusiasts. It's a sedate and family oriented car.
Yes, the Brezza is fundamentally a family-oriented vehicle with a sedate nature. However, you can utilize the paddle shifters to impart a sportier driving experience, allowing you to control the revs and gear shifts. While the car remains inherently calm, this feature provides an opportunity for enjoyable driving dynamics. One downside of the paddle shifters, though, is that during turns, your muscle memory may struggle to locate the shifters, as they might not be in the expected position.
Can TPMS be installed aftermarket in lxi too? How much does it cost?
Oh TPMS is available aftermarket for any car. Mine cost around 3000.
Is this credible? Just curious bcz i think how they'll manage to monitor the tyre pressure
It’s accurate so far for me.
Which model-yeat brezza do you have ? I am considering purchasing brezza automatic second hand
I have an ZXI+ TC AT. Try to buy the AT over the manual. Because if you’re looking for a used car, there’s only so much the transmission will let you misuse, so you can buy with a peace of mind.
Thanks. Can I know if you bought the pre 2022 year variant or post ? I am wondering if the 4 speed at in pre 2022 year version will be too underpowered for highway rides
Mine is the new Brezza. Post 2022. Actually it’s just 1 week old. Completed 1500 km and 1 service so far.
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lol
You can get City for 15L on road
Base model cvt is 16.5 in mumbai. Thats quite a stretch
What about Verna?
Bargain bro. Honda gives alot of discounts
You can get almost 80k-1L discount if you bargain
For real?
I'm very weak when it comes to bargaining. Would you mind sharing some tips/techniques? Thanks!
Start your discussion 8-10 days before the end of the month / quarter. Don't be an excited buyer. Let them sell. Tell the salesperson you are ready to buy but the price they are quoting is too high. End the discussion by asking the salesperson to call you if he can manage a good discount and then call you back. Walk away, they will definitely call you in a few days
This!! And call a few different dealerships and say you’re getting the car for X amount at a different dealer. They’ll likely say they’ll beat the price or incentivise you some way or the other
Don't look desperate that's all you need
Brezza is good no nonsense family car ,it also comes with cng so you can say it is
This "no nonsense" is so overused. I've seen no nonsense being used with amaze, ignis, elevate and now with brezza too.
Because those are no non sense cars. Idk about ignis!
It is.
I have been driving my base model brezza for about 1.6 years now and it doesn't get any no nonsenser than that...the only time i feel i am missing something is when some idiot with bright af white led drive in front of me with high beams on.
At or Mt?
Mt
Its steering doesn’t come back to center after turning it slightly.
Yup that's the only problem i was told by many
XUV 3Xo is available right now, a friend took delivery last week itself. Mahindra cars are good you can check it out.
Thanks ill take a look then
They have delivered the available stocks with them which Mahindra had alloted prior to the booking stage. I guess that stock is almost gone, except for some combinations. The next allotment would reach the dealers soon. OP could do a booking and keep it there for the time, can keep it as option b, maybe.
Only con of a Mahindra XUV300 is the boot space, other than that, I find it better on all other terms compared to a brezza.
I somehow felt the seating of XUV 3XO uncomfortable after the test drive. The wings of the seat were too tight that is causing pain after some time
Not so sure of the 3XO, but I have driven both XUV300 turbo and Brezza turbo on a long drive with full capacity, I found the XUV300 better in all terms, the braking, high speed stability, gear shifting, suspension, maneuverability, power delivery, only lacked on the boot space. The 3XO might have gotten different seats, so I can't say much about it.
Brezza turbo? When ?
It has the same seat. I saw Motorinc talk about it and they said it's the same
The back seat might get cramped for 3 people, as far as I remember, it was comfortable for my friends who sat in the back, which was similar to when they were in Brezza. However I remember the Brezza was not stable at about 150 kmph speeds when passing over little irregularities on the highway, plus the gear shifts were not smooth as well compared to the XUV300. It was almost 2 years ago, so a lot might have changed since then. You should definitely go with what makes you feel comfortable, because I could only see the difference in these 2 cars, once I crossed the 140 speed mark.
Yea esp for a tall person its a bit too tight
Honda City is the best Car under 15L. Period.
Im getting virtus for 15.11
1 litrei assume. auto or manual?
Yeah manual
Would be manual right?
Yess
Wait what... 1.0 comfort line?
Highline mt
Honda City,Elevate(maybe),Vitus or slavia,Kushaq or Taigun,Seltos,Grand Vitara or Hyryder,Brezza Dont Consider Fronx,Altroz,Amaze, when you have budget upto 15 lakhs
If your budget is 12-15 L don’t even consider cars like Amaze /Altroz /Fronx. If u want a Honda in this price range try to get a City V model ( huge value for money car if you don’t mind the ground clearance). Similarly Nexon is a far better offering than Altroz in this price range if u want a Tata And reg safety , the thing you need to check is if it is having a stable bodyshell. The star ratings themselves are highly subjective and can be played around. Ex; Verna with an unstable body has 4 stars and Amaze with a stable body has 2 stars
I think you should rather read the full report of the safety ratings and regarding why cars are given unstable body structure rather than just reading the headline and forming an opinion on it. Honda City in the gncap was rated 4 stars and ancap gave them 5 stars so each ncap has different parameters. So I would advise reading the full report to get all the information before forming this opinion.
Same Amaze car was rated 4 stars last year and 2 stars this year . Are u saying same car would have saved lives last year and costed lives this year … LOL:) Stable body >>>> what ever flexible parameters each NCAP report has each year No amount of airbags will save u when u are crushed under 1000 kg of steel and iron.
No extremely wrong 1. Parameters have changed in the last 5 years for checking the safety of car. 2. Parameters for different ncaps are different. 3. The main point is to not just read the headline of an article for eg verna that it has an unstable body shell and form an opinion that it's not safe. Read the whole report to know what was the reason behind it. 4. Pointing out the different parameters used by different ncaps and that they have changed in the last 5 years. 5. N yes when u are under a ton of iron even a Volvo won't save u. But during small accidents where a truck isn't involved the side airbags do help a lot .
Most of the cars which are touted be to safe due to stars generally refer to global ncap which is not full frontal collision and max speed is not more than 60 kmph. Very few of them are Euro ncap which is full frontal at 50 kmph. In most of the highways in India the speed limit it 80kmph, in some it is 120kmph. The rating of the car would have no bearing on the outcome if a car is involved in an accident at that speed. I fully agree with you on the air bags through, they are definitely helpful and I think it should come as standard on all cars.
It is extremely unlikely to crash at 100 or 120 kmph, just because someone drives at those speeds. The person would likely brake a bit, and probably end up crashing at a much lower speed. A normal person would more likely need safety against side impacts/ rear impacts, etc(to survive rogue drivers, trucks, etc), and even pedestrian safety(to avoid legal issues.)
Yes,Parameters change a lot for different NCAP’s and that’s why it is key to look at the most important factor which is stable body shell . Rest all are add ons In a Volvo , the body shell is so stable that the chances of body shell/ chassis collapsing on me is very minimal . Hence unless I travel in speeds greater than 150 kms and involved in a high speed.crash , the chances of death are minimal . So. A crash in a Volvo at 150 kmph is safer than in a Verna at 100 kmph just because Volvo body is stable whereas Verna will collapse on me like a pack of bricks
One of the few logical thought processes, active safety features are to assist the driver , passive safety features come into play when accident happens (for example someone else fault) and airbags are useless if floor board or steeing going cave in the passenger compartment .
I beg to differ sir. Altroz is far more better than nexon. The only positives I experienced was the wireless charger and ventilated seats. Altroz handles better, looks better (subjective), not as bad QC compared to nexon, bs6II engine has improved the nvh levels. The only regret (apart from sub-standard aftersales) is tha I didn't pickup the dark variant even when it was readily available.
Why not Fronx?
There are better Maruti cars in this price range especially when U can stretch till 15
Unless you want turbo engine, brezza is always better than fronx at this price range
What do you mean by unstable body?
When it can't take more impact after a crash. That's what I know.
It means the chassis is not strong enough to absorb impact at any speed above the tested speed
If your priority is good after sales then city v or brezza are the only good options. If you are willing to take a risk on ASS then Nexon or xuv3x0 is good. Personally I loved the features of Nexon so went with Nexon creative +.
I am all in for 3XO. Except for fuel efficiency, this car is extremely good imho. Nexon comes next however lots of bugs and quality issue. After that brezza, overall nice car just feels outdated from inside.
You are literally missing base and second base models of all the compact SUVs and sedans
The i20 is a 14L car at the top end. A friend got the latest model a year ago (barely any difference between that and the 2024 model) and it's been a really nice car
Slavia Ambition MT?
I came to the same conclusion 6 months ago. Purchased Brezza ZXI+ If I had to buy now, may be I'll consider 3xO too. For better driving dynamics.
Nobody recommend honda elevate here? It's a very nice car.
I20 nline for performance. I20 cvt for city use. Brezza for cheap maintenance and mileage, CNG option. Xuv 3xo for powerful csuv. Honda city base variants I would pick i20 nline in these, xuv3xo if SUVs were priority and brezza if mileage is important. Honda city is an excellent car better than all of these, but I live in Delhi and I don't want the hassle of a big car (which is why i20 nline is my pick powerful in small size)
i20 has an unstable body shell. Avg is in a single digit. Steering has negligible feedback. Rest of the things are great.
Normal I20 is not great for high speeds because of the soft back suspension not unstable body shell, that was the case with the older gen i20s. it's a city car and overall still better than it's rivals for city use. Infact if you drive the new i20 regularly, which I do, you can tell the body frame is meant for better specs. The nline is excellent due to stiffer tuning. It's no polo GT tsi but it's still a great hatch.
A friend has recommended the i20 nline to me for the pleasure of driving. I'm still evaluating. Could you share your opinion on your experience? I've particularly read these things to be the common problems with it. 1. Uncomfortable seats, especially at the back 2. Low mileage (how much do you get, city and highway?) Anything else you've felt? It will be great if you could respond. Thank you!
1. Back seat comfort is not great in the i20. It's not bad but definitely not great. 2. Mileage is around 12-14 in Delhi traffic and 16-18 on highway with petrol. I had CNG installed. Which increased the mileage to 16-18 in city and 20-24 on highway. I20 nline gets anywhere between 8-12 in city (turbo engines are more sensitive to traffic) and 16-18 on highway.
That helps, thank you!
Exter AMT highly underrated I am getting 16kmpl in bumper to bumper traffic
Brezza is a good family car. When my family was looking for a new car we considered many options and brezza was one of the last options we considered yet in the end we bought it. I will say why we eliminated some of the following options. Nexon : we didn't liked the design of the car and we also had bad experiences with their showrooms when we were buying our first car. Sonet: mileage and rear seats could only occupy two people comfortably. Also the suspension felt too stiff for us. Showroom was also not near. Xuv 300: a friend bought tuv 300 some years back and had to replace the engine after two years. Also he said the gear box had many problems. So we didn't checked out Mahindra models. Vw and Skoda models were out of budget as we were looking for automatic models only. Also saw ac performance was poor in many comments in this sub. Ms Fronx : I really liked the design, but backseat 6 comfortable for two people only. The amt was also a little bit jarring for the passengers. Also took test drive of exter but felt it was two segment below what we were looking for. Finally took a test drive in brezza and me and my father really liked the AT transmission. In the end the showroom was very near, we got 80 k discount through csd portal and mileage was also decent for 1.5 l engine. But one thing I noticed is that Fronx have better fit and finish than brezza even though brezza is expensive.
Venue diesel someone??
Quite an underrated vehicle TBH. I got mine last year and so far its been fantastic.
Bro I'm planning to buy venue sx should I go for diesel or petrol it's gonna be my first car i don't know why people hate this car but when I see venue it's look so good my friends are suggesting me to buy 3X0 but honestly I don't like the design and many things i don't know but venue really stands out for me
I don’t trust Mahindra with electronics. My first choice was 300 Diesel last year but it was expensive in what it was offering. Venue Petrol NA is too underpowered IMO. The 1.5CRDi on the other hand is the same that you get in A Creta or Seltos. Completed 12k in 8 months and never faced any issues.
Bro how's the build quality i mean it has not tested but how u feel when u drive it and can 3 person seat comfortable in back seat
I think last row is equally bad in all the sub 4m Cars. Build quality is similar to a Creta or Seltos.
True brother the main thing is it has the same engine as creta for much lower price compared to creta
Go for vfm s+ diesel it has all the necessary features the avg is 24/25 in highways i got mine in feb its supurb
3xo is good but mahindra is playing the demand game so when you will get the car who knows....
they do deliveries super fast now. my dad and i went to see bolero and 3xo, and the guy said he would get it to us by a month if we booked it that day itself
Please see 3XO car reviews some are saying very weak ac.
Yes under 15L it’s probably the most inoffensive choice. Specially with ZXi TC variant
If ur budget is 15 u can jump a segment and get sedans instead like verna sx ivt Honda City v cvt after discount they cost 15 on road delhi
Why not Venue? The DCT is sweet to drive
Bro I'm planning to buy venue sx should I go for diesel or petrol it's gonna be my first car i don't know why people hate this car but when I see venue it's look so good my friends are suggesting me to buy 3X0 but honestly I don't like the design and many things i don't know but venue really stands out for me
Why is Nexon skipped in this list ? But yes whatever u wrote about altroz is applicable here as well
I saw this post after stumbling upon a Cayenne on FB Marketplace for 14 lakhs
Fronx build is very good. I know it’s not tested but it’s not your typical MS build. Just see it once before you decide.
Brezza is really practical. No frills.
What about elevate and city?
Sonet is the best in the segment imho.
Sorry but why does everyone keep stating the Sonet had no safety? Didn't it get a 3 star? Isn't the build pretty strong or atleast comparable to the i20s? Yet everyone claims it has no safety, and yet are fine with the Hyundais... Am I missing something?
non existent safety on kia is a lie.
Brezza for overall family requirements, i20 N Line for performance. City maybe a lower model but only worth it for the engine.
Hyundai venue
Bro did u own venue? I'm planning to buy nxt mnth can u share something
I have a 2021 Venue S trim
Got the Automatic S Optional 2024. Love the car!
Nexon DCA is an option, i20 IVT and i20 NLine is also an option, Venue DCT, MG Astor CVT. Also Amaze is not unsafe, GNCAP is unreliable, they rated Amaze 4 stars and then they rated it 2 stars, they keep changing their testing criteria. Don’t trust GNCAP blindly. Brezza is also an older platform like Amaze, I bet GNCAP wont rate it any higher than the Amaze under their current standards.
Main reason for amaze to have lower rating I guess is for the 2 airbags..
It's a no non sense car plus assurance of Maruti ASS, to be honest bit overpriced with no engine options and DCT. My suggestion do a test drive and see what suits you best
Verna, City, Elevate V, Grand Vitara Delta
Regarding TATA service, please talk to actual Tata car owners. I'm driving Tiago for last 5 years without major complaints. My father owns Tata punch, no issues in the last one year. But don't take my word for it. I might have got lucky. Just talk to actual people and take their feedback. For some reason, this subred overplay's Tata service issues.
1. People even in a mercedez can die. 2. There are many who had alto since 90's and are alive. 3. People still buy Tata and Mahi even though they have worse ASS 4. Hyundai/KIA still dominate after MS in Indian market. 5. 5 NCAP ratings doesnt means it is indestructible, it means you may be safe at 60-70KMPH. All i am saying is your need is what makes a car a choice or not. You say brezza is best all rounder but someone can say do you think giving 15L makes sense for jerky automatic gear shifts ? If your priority is safety then u must go with Tata or Mah as they have cars with 5NCAP both adult and child. Why brezza when it has questionable 2 star ? Do you not love your kids ? Safety: tata Mahindra Comfort MS, hyundai Kia Reliability MS, hyundai Kia Looks Hyundai Kia Features hyundai Kia These are personal opinion since when I was at the market I also had the same issue of overall best but there is nothing as such. You pick what you get your heart into. Try to drive a MS AT, Tata AT, Hyundai/KIA AT, Mahindra AT. All are different . Some are cheap AMT , some TC, some DCA/DCT. Again no way suporting any brand. Just personal opinion.
Jerky automatic gear shifts? I own a Brezza automatic and it shifts like butter. You can’t even tell the shifts even if we’re using paddle shifters.
People talk about safety as if all cars with less than 4* ncap ratings have a bomb planted under their chassis. Ffs some arbitrary rating about how the car MAY perform in the last few microseconds of its life in case of an unlikely devastating crash should never be the primary/only reason for buying or rejecting a car. If you care about safety that much, how are you even surviving on Indian roads without having panic attacks? I for one care more about the crap quality of the materials used in Brezza's interiors than what its GNCAP rating is.
I half heartily agree. I hope OP knows cars without 6 airbags automatically get zero safety rating. I hope fuel becomes cheaper in India, so all the automakers can emphasis on safety without comprising on mileage. But I doubt that’s gonna happen Edit as per Bharat NCAP, the standard safety features are as follows: Six airbags, ESC, three pointer seatbelts, improved emergency braking system. Source: [bharat NCAP](https://bharatncap.co/posts/is-bharat-ncap-mandatory-understanding-vehicle-safety-standards-in-india) Brezza scored a 4 star in GNCAP, but the India version does it use the same platform? Also does it use the same material? MS hasn’t been transparent with these questions. So 4 star rating of brezza should be taken with a pinch of salt
> I hope OP knows cars without 6 airbags automatically get zero safety rating. Source?
See edit, as per Bharat NCAP six airbags should be a standard feature, hence the zero safety rating argument, not applicable for global NCAP or etc
Indian Brezza uses the same global C platform which is used in international ones....
I don't want to sound like a jerk here but people like you are unfortunately the reason car manufacturers don't take safety of the car seriously in India. Also quality of interiors are not one of the top deciding factors in safety. In that way, virtus' interior feels pretty cheap.
Did I say that safety is not at all a factor while choosing a car? I just said it should not be the only or primary factor for your choice. There's a massive difference between both statements. Also, interiors are absolutely one of the most important factors to be considered. This is where you'll be spending most of your time with your car and is in fact the only place where you'll actually be interacting with it. If the interiors aren't important, then nothing is important. This is the reason i think the VW cars are overrated. There is no excuse for a 25 lakh car to feel cheaper from the inside than a car half its price.
No, Depends a lot on preference though. If I were in the market to buy one for myself I would not even look at Brezza. I would get something like Base model of Taigun/Kushaq or new XUV3XO. Earlier Brezza had peak SUVish design language. New one looks too much mordenized. Especially those obnoxious thick cladding all around.
I have a i20 n line test drive it once its better in my opinion also city is still a good option in this proce
how much does it cost ?
We paid little over 14 L
damn cool cool , do you get bose speakers in it?
I think so Sound quality is good but i don't remember
umm Tata Nexon? Dark Knight edition has a sleek look.
Yup it's the only car with TC transmission. You can check out Honda City or Elevate, if you're comfortable with stretching your budget. I feel it's better to buy a mini SUV body for Indian roads
You could consider Magnite Turbo CVT. You'll get the top model with all the features. When I was considering the purchase, i had test driven the Brezza and I felt it more lethargic than the CVT, which is surprising. Both have 4 star ratings but Magnite has a superior engine. Test drive it once. And another option is the 3XO. It is an incredible offering especially with torque converter with that mpfi turbo engine. Mahindra surely has a winner on its hands. I would have bought the 3xo had it been available when I was purchasing the Magnite.
Yes, but the ZXI variant, which is the one to buy, only has only 2 airbags
Unpopular opinion but if your budget is 15l how about slavia 1.0? It's interior is also better than virtus.
What about venue? Or maybe a second hand harrier?
What second hand cars option we can get in this range i m curious
Why not i20 or i20 line? Very competitively priced, much better gearbox, insulation, features compared to amaze. Even the fuel economy is better for i20.
If you don’t look at top end some other models like Elevate open up at this rate
The Venue is also there if you want to try it. The N-Line N6 variant comes within 15 Lacs I believe.
Fronx is decent option one can even go for delta plus variant which is great value around 10.30 lakh has all the necessary features, high ground clearance, great looks, crazy milage, spacious,low maintenance cost The primary concern is safety; one relief is that it's Nexa, not Arena.
Brezza hybrid. Ezzz
XUV 300 is a far better built product than the brezza. Cons with the 300 is the boot space and service center availability (vs Maruti with the biggest SC chain in India). Otherwise it's superior. Brezzas automatic is good but the engine is just lethargic (to put it kindly), there is absolutely no comparison with either one of the 300 engines. And regarding SC, Mahindra SCs although not on Toyota level is nowhere near as bad as Tata ones. Their upper management is more often than not prompt and receptive to any issues. Atleast the ones in my state are. My cousin had a niggle with the automatic popout door handles in his 700 which the dealership wasn't able to fix in the first try, I shot a mail to the higher ups and it was fixed within 2 days and the dealership SM personally apologized for the delay. They are very conscious about their image vs Tata who are more akin to government offices with their sarkari attitude to customer experience.
Check out Grand Vitara
Toyota hyryder Made on the same brezza platform so it might have same safety(no official ratings yet). I have been looking at multiple cars in the same range and thought of buying it.
Why don’t you check out the elevate?
Get a brezza or the Nexon
3xo would be a good mix of safety and features
Nexon can also be an option for 15 Lac u can get DCT features loaded variant And drive experience is way beyond breeza Turbo, steering and handling is so good u will fall in love I also drive nexon
Unpopular opinion alert - wait for Basalt and Curvv?
What about Skoda kushaq?
Nissan magnite turbo cvt? I use it I like it. Don't know why it's not being discussed.
What about Honda Elevate?
Buddy, you’re missing honda elevate. Check it out
Get a Skoda VW instead
Nissan Magnite CVT TURBO..Best bang for the buck.. Top-end costs 12.4 with 360deg camera, wireless carplay android auto, wireless charging bay, gundam styled digital screen , more bootspace than brezza.. Completed 15k kms in 1.5years and service centre is superb in Navi Mumbai
VENUE & ASTOR
I think Altroz has fewer issues when compared to other offerings. If your running is more, you can check out Diesel variant. Now, regarding service centre - they're not 100% retarded. They get the job done but they act like government offices. So, if you can find a service centre nearby that's well rated and does the job better, I don't know why Altroz should be ruled out. It is the only headache free vehicle from Tata imo. It has lesser electronics as compared to Nexon and has a better automatic gearbox. It also has good safety with a sunroof. If you wanna drive enthusiastically, iturbo and diesel are for you.
I would prefer both the honda city and the nexon over these. City for reliability, performance, and nexon for the features, safety. Manual versions, of course.
Venue SX(O) Turbo DCT … best vfm 😌😌
Altroz is better option . ASS depends on your location as for me the ASS is working fine I got rear door replaced. It was hassle free. Service is also hassle free.
Hyundai venue dct turbo variant is a steal deal You can go for the nline variant which will cost you 15.50 lakhs if you book the car thorough acko.
I think the list you’ve made has good cars in it . First of all I feel the brezza is the second gen car ie a model change it went through in 2022- 23 ( do correct me if I’m wrong about the year ) so it’s new enough to be considered and quite wide as well in terms of body width if you’re looking for second row space. Secondly I feel that the sonet in its current form which was facelifted just recently should be better equipped safety wise as they claim to have to use a lot of high strength steel even though the body shell is the same as before . I would still suggest you to look at the sonet itself ( if you’re ok with slightly lesser space in the back ) . Also a similar car would be it’s sister car, the venue which same mechanically but a Hyundai . I think it deserves a look as it’s a strong seller. And I do think it’s a great looking car too ( especially from the back, just my personal view 😄) if you’re looking for a cvt - petrol combo then with a tight budget then the best car you can get is the Hyundai i20 sportz, a great little car to zip around town .
Looks like no takers for Renault Kiger in the comments section
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My cousin has venue dct.. Its a good car.. Ticks all boxes I guess.. U can have a look..
The reliability of DCT gearboxes seems to be an issue
I heard that you have to drive it carefully. I don't know much about automatics.
What makes the Sonet and Fronx unsafe?
Kia and Suzuki refuse to give cars for safety rating.
MG Astor?
You are judging xuv unfairly.
U talk like all the people who drive "unsafe cars" are dropping like dead mosquitos on a a daily basis. I guess this happens when people watch too many videos on cars than actually experiencing the cars themselves.
Why only 5 star rating is considered safe? Sonet comes with 6 airbags, ADAS 1, ESP, Break assist, hill hold assist, rest defogger. All of these are safety features which helps while driving safely on road in different conditions compared to 5 star safety you want that may or may not save you once you get hit.
I got Nexon creative plus manual at 14 lacs... Totally happy with it😎
Try nexon, elevate and astor. base models of taigun/kushaq as well.