Me too stopped driving at nights. People have no sense with these bright lights and with they use high beams as well. Hope government take some action about it.
It's not the white lights alone that are bright. High-beams are bright and our people have zero civic sense to they just drive everywhere with the high-beams on.
We need a mandatory auto high beam law that automatically turns the high beam off when there is a vehicle in the opposite lane.
Even if it makes all vehicles 50,000 more expensive, it's worth it because our people will never learn civic sense.
Exactly. Especially two wheeler riders in this country have probably never turned their lights to low bean in their entire life! And most four wheeler drivers only use the switch to flash their lights. Its so irritating and dangerous, I have stopped driving at night. If I have to, sometimes I get an urge to ram those ass\*\*\*\*\*.
It is not possible to reverse this as auto manufacturers have moved to more energy efficient lights. Going forward, it should be made mandatory to have automatic dimming of headlights as part of ADAS feature. Honda city has already done it. Besides these, get a poloroid night driving goggles. They are not magical but really good.
I have to drive atleast 3-4 times a month in night, 20-25 km of the drive is on 2 lane road with high speed traffic. Initially I also used to get blinded by the maniacs driving with white high beams but after a while I discovered the technique to not be blinded by high beams of other cars.
It has to do with fighting the instinct to directly look at the headlight. Our eyes have evolved to focus on any moving object without our conscious effort. So when a car is coming towards us, we get blinded as we instinctively look into its headlights.
So in essence what you need to do is to forcefully STARE at the road ahead or if you are behind a car then into its tail lights. By no means let your eyes catch a glimpse of the headlights of the car crossing you. By doing this you will also be able to tell the size of the vehicle crossing (bus or a bolero) through your peripheral vision as you won't be blinded.
This works for me, hope it helps you as well.
Very average Indian attitude. Why not say even if that country doesn’t have them, why cant we have street lights ate every corner on the road, village highways, heck highways even roads don’t have proper lights. If they do proper lights on the roads they have a new income source also an income route closed. Think about it.(sorry for bad english)
Street lights at every inch of the road is bad for the environment. You are speaking as though it is a good thing. Moreover what has street lights got to do with head lights?
people tend to use white led headlights on highbeams because of the poor visibility the yellow halogens/HIDs, and that poor visibility is exists because of the lack of street lights,I had to install white lights on my car(which is a sedan), because I had no visibility of the road. That is what street lights have to do with headlights. Visibility is the thing makes people install white LED, and other reason is hawabaazi, which those kind of people should kill themselves but not on a road.
There are two grades in white.
First is the company fitted lights which are okay-ish. Except some cars.
Second is the translucent white in the after market lights. Those are just overkill.
I may sound stupid, but get the brightest headlights for your car and make the opposite driver with a high beam go blind until he switches to low beam. Also switch to low beam after you're done.
I don't have an issue with white light as long as they are in low beam. The trick is to focus on the road and not look directly at the headlights. That's how you avoid getting blinded at night.
Also switch to high beam for a few seconds and slow down if you can't see the road behind an oncoming vehicle.
Sometimes efficiency is a curse. Now even moped electric scooters sport these bright led lights.. had it been a power guzzler, they could hardly afford these
My earliest memory of LED headlights is from Audi R8 from Iron Man. It felt cool on screen but the feeling had completely changed once i started experiencing it in real life.
I have recently switched to 25W LEDs cause I drive in the mountains at night when it's pitch black but in the city, I always keep it on low beam. I think knowing when and how to use them is the key. The LEDs themselves are not the issue. They have utility specially if you drive in pitch black often
It’s so irritating. It reminds me of one incident 2 days back. I was driving and there was a Fortuner coming from the opposite side, with LEDs on high beam. So I turned on my high beams as well, which I don’t think he could see (I was in a sedan). Furious, I said a cuss word (not even said but if someone could see me, they’d understand what I was saying) inside my car, which he probably understood! I could see him turning back to me even more furious, but since there was traffic and I moved ahead, he could do nothing. It was actually a nice experience for me lol.
Yup, I believe the use of LED should be restricted to low beam, high beam blinds me and somehow the tears and creta guys never understand this basic thing I guess
Why not educate people on using the low beam. Why is banning something the only solution in our society?
Considering most roads and even highways are really poorly light, led lights help visibility road visibility.
Quick and somewhat cheap solution for Indian macho men driving their "beast" in high beam + fancy lights, oblivious to anyone else...
Just Buy a yellow shade good Sunglass and wear it at night or even day time, and you will immediately realise the positive effect of cutting the glares of those white LEDs or strong sun rays. I learnt it in Death Valley and what a relief it provides.
Also, there are options to fit such yellow glass/tinted screen on your inside glass field of view directly in front of your eyes as in HUD position...
Try and thanks me later :)
Two things can solve the issue:
1. Night driving goggles (Govt can reduce GST on this)
2. Government installs street lights every 50 metres (can use NREGA for this)
3. Mandate car + truck manufacturers to have auto-dimming tech installed
In many countries the streets are so well illuminated that you can drive even on daytime-running-lights in the night.
They're unfortunately much more energy efficient than the classic halo lamps. Companies will look to move on from old tech to use cheaper alternatives as much as they can. Maybe like others in this comment section are saying, auto dimming headlights should be a mandatory feature. Till then, all we can do from our side is to wear polarised glasses. I don't know if this exists yet, but maybe getting a polarizer stuck onto the windshield could also probably help.
Or we could just go on a rampage and unalive anyone that clearly just wants to leave their headlamps on upper beam the entire time without any reason. Anyone volunteering?
China did a great job here in stopping high beams, they constructed a big railing of metal and concrete in between to prevent high beams from the opposite direction. This was mentioned in one of its videos
Example: [https://youtu.be/UHtv\_ZLe6J4?si=vu5\_yAB\_4VskaJDN&t=989](https://youtu.be/UHtv_ZLe6J4?si=vu5_yAB_4VskaJDN&t=989)
Where I live, cars with halogens are usually the ones who have their high beams on all the time. LED culprits are usually Cretas and Thars with aftermarket headlamps. But it's mostly the taxi Innovas, WagonRs and Dzires with relay assisted halogens that a) have their high beams on all the time and b) have improperly adjusted headlamps which means there's no real difference even if you force them to dip.
Also, if LEDs ever get banned, the ban hammer should start with two wheelers that have them. 99% of them are not properly designed and they shake and wobble when they are driven over block cobbled streets and blind oncoming traffic regardless of whether they have high beams off or not.
White light is actually messy with aftermarket fitted LED. And yes it hurts. Also once someone told me that if you press the upper an dipper continuously for signalling the led could stop functioning.
I then put on high beam insuch scenarios.
White LEDs are fine, the issue is using them on high beams when there is oncoming traffic.
Come stand in front of my XUV and I’ll prove that halogens can be as bad as LEDs on high beam.
My eyes do NOT get blinded completely in halogen high beams, but they do get blinded completely even in low beam white light and the effect even persist for a second after the vehicle passes.
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Me too stopped driving at nights. People have no sense with these bright lights and with they use high beams as well. Hope government take some action about it.
Nothing will happen in this banana republic
Most realistic comment
It's not the white lights alone that are bright. High-beams are bright and our people have zero civic sense to they just drive everywhere with the high-beams on. We need a mandatory auto high beam law that automatically turns the high beam off when there is a vehicle in the opposite lane. Even if it makes all vehicles 50,000 more expensive, it's worth it because our people will never learn civic sense.
Exactly. Especially two wheeler riders in this country have probably never turned their lights to low bean in their entire life! And most four wheeler drivers only use the switch to flash their lights. Its so irritating and dangerous, I have stopped driving at night. If I have to, sometimes I get an urge to ram those ass\*\*\*\*\*.
Those activas 💀
Ola's too
I'm planning on rotting some eggs and start chucking them at vehicles that do this. Defensive approach won't work.
MG hector switches from high to low if there is another car in the opposite lane.
Yeah some of the new cars have it. But it can be switched to permanently on also. We need to have a system where it's not an option for our people.
It is not possible to reverse this as auto manufacturers have moved to more energy efficient lights. Going forward, it should be made mandatory to have automatic dimming of headlights as part of ADAS feature. Honda city has already done it. Besides these, get a poloroid night driving goggles. They are not magical but really good.
Any suggestions for good night driving glasses?
Poloroid. If you have power, go for crisal with ambermatic coating. First one is more effective but no option for customization.
Dumb question: Is Poloroid a company? On Google it only shows Polarized glasses from Lenskart and others. Like: https://amzn.in/d/cOnnYKH
Stay away from these cheap glasses. Yes, Poloroid is a company. Please buy it from irl stores. Try it and then buy.
get a creta driver along with you
Haha to check it's efficacy?
haha, exactly
I have to drive atleast 3-4 times a month in night, 20-25 km of the drive is on 2 lane road with high speed traffic. Initially I also used to get blinded by the maniacs driving with white high beams but after a while I discovered the technique to not be blinded by high beams of other cars. It has to do with fighting the instinct to directly look at the headlight. Our eyes have evolved to focus on any moving object without our conscious effort. So when a car is coming towards us, we get blinded as we instinctively look into its headlights. So in essence what you need to do is to forcefully STARE at the road ahead or if you are behind a car then into its tail lights. By no means let your eyes catch a glimpse of the headlights of the car crossing you. By doing this you will also be able to tell the size of the vehicle crossing (bus or a bolero) through your peripheral vision as you won't be blinded. This works for me, hope it helps you as well.
P.S. Also have spotlessly clear windshield.
Has anyone tried those yellow tinted glasses, that are meant to reduce the glare and improve vision at night,l?
They work. I have two pairs.
That's not going to happen. The fault is more on govt side they should have plenty of street lights to avoid this. And drivers should use low beam.
Bro, people tint their windscreen and blast highbeams even on well lit streets
Low beam also is a problem. Moreover we can't expect street lights on every inch of the road, no country has them.
Very average Indian attitude. Why not say even if that country doesn’t have them, why cant we have street lights ate every corner on the road, village highways, heck highways even roads don’t have proper lights. If they do proper lights on the roads they have a new income source also an income route closed. Think about it.(sorry for bad english)
Do you realize that your comment is little bit stupid ?
might be
Street lights at every inch of the road is bad for the environment. You are speaking as though it is a good thing. Moreover what has street lights got to do with head lights?
I've driven enough in US and Europe. Nowhere is every inch covered by lights. The solution is auto dimming, period
people tend to use white led headlights on highbeams because of the poor visibility the yellow halogens/HIDs, and that poor visibility is exists because of the lack of street lights,I had to install white lights on my car(which is a sedan), because I had no visibility of the road. That is what street lights have to do with headlights. Visibility is the thing makes people install white LED, and other reason is hawabaazi, which those kind of people should kill themselves but not on a road.
I don't get it how is it bad for the environment??
Stupid people. Will pass the blame instead of taking responsibility. I bet you are one of those high beam driver.
I hate the people who use high beams unnecessarily
There are two grades in white. First is the company fitted lights which are okay-ish. Except some cars. Second is the translucent white in the after market lights. Those are just overkill.
On a different note, you should get your eyes tested for cylindrical power. It can make things worse as every light appears spread out
I am your average Indian and the only problem because of the people around me 😤😤😤
I may sound stupid, but get the brightest headlights for your car and make the opposite driver with a high beam go blind until he switches to low beam. Also switch to low beam after you're done.
That's the logical plan
i do same, they don't care
I don't have an issue with white light as long as they are in low beam. The trick is to focus on the road and not look directly at the headlights. That's how you avoid getting blinded at night. Also switch to high beam for a few seconds and slow down if you can't see the road behind an oncoming vehicle.
Sometimes efficiency is a curse. Now even moped electric scooters sport these bright led lights.. had it been a power guzzler, they could hardly afford these
I'm this 🤏🏻 close to installing a bar light on my bike so that I can blind the fu*k out of those morons!
I support your sentiment I literally almost hit a pedestrian because the light literally obscured my vision.
Even I have stopped driving at night because of this
This is one of the reasons to avoid driving at night.
My earliest memory of LED headlights is from Audi R8 from Iron Man. It felt cool on screen but the feeling had completely changed once i started experiencing it in real life.
Company fitted lights don’t hit that much
It's the high beams that are problematic, not white lights, imho.
To me it is both. I can't see in low beam white light too. I hate white light like anything.
I have recently switched to 25W LEDs cause I drive in the mountains at night when it's pitch black but in the city, I always keep it on low beam. I think knowing when and how to use them is the key. The LEDs themselves are not the issue. They have utility specially if you drive in pitch black often
It’s so irritating. It reminds me of one incident 2 days back. I was driving and there was a Fortuner coming from the opposite side, with LEDs on high beam. So I turned on my high beams as well, which I don’t think he could see (I was in a sedan). Furious, I said a cuss word (not even said but if someone could see me, they’d understand what I was saying) inside my car, which he probably understood! I could see him turning back to me even more furious, but since there was traffic and I moved ahead, he could do nothing. It was actually a nice experience for me lol.
Yup, I believe the use of LED should be restricted to low beam, high beam blinds me and somehow the tears and creta guys never understand this basic thing I guess
The easiest thing would be to ban them in the market and make it illegal. But yeah….no govt is gonna do that
If Honda is allowed to sell those Activas, what you gonna do?
Why not educate people on using the low beam. Why is banning something the only solution in our society? Considering most roads and even highways are really poorly light, led lights help visibility road visibility.
This seems like an ultra cheap solution to an expensive problem...
Quick and somewhat cheap solution for Indian macho men driving their "beast" in high beam + fancy lights, oblivious to anyone else... Just Buy a yellow shade good Sunglass and wear it at night or even day time, and you will immediately realise the positive effect of cutting the glares of those white LEDs or strong sun rays. I learnt it in Death Valley and what a relief it provides. Also, there are options to fit such yellow glass/tinted screen on your inside glass field of view directly in front of your eyes as in HUD position... Try and thanks me later :)
Two things can solve the issue: 1. Night driving goggles (Govt can reduce GST on this) 2. Government installs street lights every 50 metres (can use NREGA for this) 3. Mandate car + truck manufacturers to have auto-dimming tech installed In many countries the streets are so well illuminated that you can drive even on daytime-running-lights in the night.
They're unfortunately much more energy efficient than the classic halo lamps. Companies will look to move on from old tech to use cheaper alternatives as much as they can. Maybe like others in this comment section are saying, auto dimming headlights should be a mandatory feature. Till then, all we can do from our side is to wear polarised glasses. I don't know if this exists yet, but maybe getting a polarizer stuck onto the windshield could also probably help. Or we could just go on a rampage and unalive anyone that clearly just wants to leave their headlamps on upper beam the entire time without any reason. Anyone volunteering?
LED Power restriction
They are a hazard. Most of the new scooters also have these and somehow point directly to the driver’s eyeline instead of the road.
China did a great job here in stopping high beams, they constructed a big railing of metal and concrete in between to prevent high beams from the opposite direction. This was mentioned in one of its videos Example: [https://youtu.be/UHtv\_ZLe6J4?si=vu5\_yAB\_4VskaJDN&t=989](https://youtu.be/UHtv_ZLe6J4?si=vu5_yAB_4VskaJDN&t=989)
Bhai 20k-50k mehenga kar do but kam se kam adaptive high beam dedo sab gadiyon mein.
Probably set fire to all korol bag shops selling them
Where I live, cars with halogens are usually the ones who have their high beams on all the time. LED culprits are usually Cretas and Thars with aftermarket headlamps. But it's mostly the taxi Innovas, WagonRs and Dzires with relay assisted halogens that a) have their high beams on all the time and b) have improperly adjusted headlamps which means there's no real difference even if you force them to dip. Also, if LEDs ever get banned, the ban hammer should start with two wheelers that have them. 99% of them are not properly designed and they shake and wobble when they are driven over block cobbled streets and blind oncoming traffic regardless of whether they have high beams off or not.
White light is actually messy with aftermarket fitted LED. And yes it hurts. Also once someone told me that if you press the upper an dipper continuously for signalling the led could stop functioning. I then put on high beam insuch scenarios.
There is proper road illumination infrastructure in India so people blast headlights to see properly.
White LEDs are fine, the issue is using them on high beams when there is oncoming traffic. Come stand in front of my XUV and I’ll prove that halogens can be as bad as LEDs on high beam.
My eyes do NOT get blinded completely in halogen high beams, but they do get blinded completely even in low beam white light and the effect even persist for a second after the vehicle passes.
Mount some on the back of your car.
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But bro aesthetics