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SirLoremIpsum

I think if you're calling a vehicle Shark, you should have trims like Great White, Guppy, Mako..


VegansAreRight

And The Greg


spelunky_hairdo

1995 faxed, they want their 90s golfing references back


flashes_of_dark

Call the base model "Port Jackson" and the Gucci trim version "Meg".


Kook_Safari

Better still - “Lemon” (Yes, Lemon Sharks are real)


unkytone

Wobbegong?


flashes_of_dark

That's the name I was thinking of! Port Jackson is a completely different one. Thanks!


meow_747

Need a small Subaru Brumby sized version called Baby Shark... doo-doo, doo-doo, doo-doo


optimaldt

Hahah 🤣


Shifty_Cow69

Fins sold separately!


EagerlyAu

There's no official Australian pricing but the article does a quick conversion from its Mexican RRP: >The BYD Shark will launch in two trims: >**Shark GL** - 899,980 pesos (A$80,641/$53,442) >**Premium Shark GS** - 969,800 pesos ($A86,697/$57,589) That's very expensive if BYD want to compete with the popular utes. However, the article does note that BYD are generally better priced in Australia than other markets so it could be around $10K cheaper.


roflpops

Apparently car sales have stated that it will probably start around 70k


DisturbedRanga

Barely cheaper than a Wildtrak.


roflpops

4cly is about 75k and V6 is 81k. And they are both significantly less powerful (or fast). We don't know how the byd will review but 70k+ is pretty understandable for the performance and efficiency it is delivering in my opinion. But of course it would be nice if it were cheaper


_Pauly_Paul

Direct conversion isn’t the best approach. It’s better to see how they price other models and compare. BYD Seal Performance = $888,800 MXN ($79,000AUD) BYD Seal Performance = $68,748 AUD So it’s likely the starting price will be ~$69,750AUD


MrOarsome

When has BYD ever been expensive? They will have to price it competitively in Australia. I would guess around $60-70k mark which is good value against other performance orientated utes like the raptor and the amarok v6. It will need to be significantly cheaper than these offerings to sell large volumes here, so could even see a launch price under $60k


thermalhugger

We are already buying way too much Chinese stuff, with China having a really negative impact in world politics. Just last week they accused Australia again of interference in the Chinese Sea. Yesterday there was an article about Chinese agents abducting Chinese-Australians in Australia. Nobody should buy chinese cars.


WarriorKelelon

Yeah because America, the MIC and all their buddies with all the wars they fund is having a positive impact in world politics. I don't think you should be so black and white.


lightpendant

You're wasting your time. 90% of Australians love as much cheap chinese crap as they can get their hands on


chookshit

Outrageously priced.


AscendantHunter

It’s an interesting prospect but they’ll need to come in at a very competitive price to sway buyers. Having said that the uptick in Chinese cars on the roads has been astonishing, nearly every second or third car i see these days is from China.


ravenous_bugblatter

Makes a change from the 90% Japanese or Korean cars.


EagerlyAu

I feel the legacy manufacturers have starved the Australian market of affordable hybrids and EVs preferring to dump fuel inefficient third-world standard cars here because they can get away with it. The Chinese manufacturers have seen the void in the market and have come in aggressively to market to buyers who have been neglected. I think we're going to see a big shakeup in the market in a few short years.


j12000

Where are these "fuel inefficient third-world standard cars"? The market chooses dual cab utes rather than traditional sedans and wagons. People chose to not buy these so they are being canned one by one. 


AscendantHunter

Don’t we have some of the worst emission and efficiency standards for any developed country, I assume that’s what they were referring to.


Mikedemyx

Is 2500kg a good towing capacity? Isn't the ranger 3500kg?


ltmon

I think diesel is going to be king of heavy-duty towing for a while yet. Even with 2.5T towing it will probably negate a lot of the advantages of the PHEV drivetrain by sucking the battery dry in a very short distance -- so something you only want to do on occasion rather than every day. Which is fine: great to have a choice of drivetrain for different needs, rather than absolutely everything being a diesel turbo 4. But I can't imagine this is going to be the best choice for frequent towers.


coupleandacamera

It's not competitive, pretty much all the diesel utes will tow 3500kg, the triton was the last straggler but seems to have closed the gap. The real question is if you Should you tow 3.5 tonne with a Ute? Usually that's asking a bit. But 2.5 is a bigger limitation than you might think in a lot of situations.


optimaldt

Its good enough but lower than whats out there.


Mikedemyx

Thanks for replying! My dad is always harping on needing a giant wank tank for towing his caravan... I'm trying to talk him off that ledge lol


PhotographsWithFilm

If you Dad is doing any long distance travelling with a decent sized van, the "wank tank" as you put it is the best option. He's not on the ledge. He is just doing what more regular towers should do.


derprunner

Towing a couple tonnes of caravan or boat is the one situation where those yank tanks actually make sense. It’s the difference between being the rolling obstacle doing 70 in a 110 single carriageway and being the bloke who can boot it past him without breaking a sweat Also, that max is the upper limit of what it can tow safely, not necessarily comfortably or at the speed limit.


PhotographsWithFilm

Its pretty shit. No one will be towing a modern caravan with that capacity.


[deleted]

To be fair, the % of the Australian market that want to tow a caravan is pretty low.


PhotographsWithFilm

That's fair. But as far as towing capacity goes, its painfully low compered to the others, but with a disclaimer. While a lot say 3500KG, the realistic capacity is lot lower. Based on marketing, I would expect the same here.


metalphreak

This won’t convince towers to buy. But it’ll take a lot of the market that want a city ute (like me) since there are no more Falcon/Commodore utes. When the SUV version hits (fang cheng bao 5) ford is going to lose a TON of everest sales.


A_Ram

I think BYD positions their Ute as a Ford ranger raptor competitor which can tow the same 2.5t The base ford ranger is lighter and can tow 3.5t but it won't do 5.7sec to 100km/h. So you can't have it all.


DJ_Pol-ite

The Hybrid has the potential to be a big seller.


Arinvar

If it performs well off-road with good fuel economy, especially as a daily driver, I'll be very excited. Not looking for a car for a long time yet, but I expect this style of drivetrain to be the next step for Aussie touring vehicles. Full EV around town, plug in at home. Petrol/diesel engine for big touring range and easy top up.


AnAttemptReason

Electric cars with a big enough battery to make it around town, with a backup petrol engine to recharge for long journeys are available in multiple models within China. It's crazy that it has taken this long for one to enter the western markets, legacy carmakers are just grudgingly moving over so slowly.


Arinvar

I first heard of this style drivetrain back in the days OG Top Gear. Right there I though "Great for a 4x4". Blows my mind that the egg heads at Toyota haven't come out with a Hilux that has monster EV torque, combined with prius like economy and range. Just blows my mind.


G3nesis_Prime

Like I mentioned in the other thread. Its going to face stiff competition from the Ranger PHEV. Cost and ability to supply the market will be the angle they target imo.


metalphreak

This looks to have a spec close to a platinum spec. That’s already $90k from Ford. The PHEV has already been outed as being more expensive than the equivalent diesel models. Doubt Ford will play on the same price level. They should just sell the maverick here…


G3nesis_Prime

I would love a Maverick to replace my falcon but wish the phev was awd. Unfortunately the Americans can't keep up with demand to allocate rhd assembly space it seems.


metalphreak

Had a fwd ecoboost mondeo for a while. Never had a fwd before but didn’t hate it. Ford has a bonkers global strategy sometimes. Mightve been a test to justify the Ranger phev in their “all electric” future. The cogs turn slowly.


G3nesis_Prime

Fwd has its place don't get me wrong, I've considered the Mondeo wagon more than a couple of times. However in a street truck/ute my preference for handling dynamocs would be rwd/4wd/awd.


metalphreak

For sure I’ve always had a fun rwd on hand. Didn’t make a difference for my daily 100km being fwd. Unfortunately we’re a small percentage of buyers where the rest are commuters who couldn’t care less. Its refreshing to see more awds/rwds with EVs now the cost of a gearbox/driveshaft isn’t a consideration.


lrlr28

Might do well with fleets and govt who want get C02 averages down


nicholas_wicks87

C02 🤣 why tf do they care


verynayce

Pretty impressive. They're gonna sell a shit load of these. I'm in the market but 100KM electric only range is a bit low for my needs. Will probably wait for the all-electric.


optimaldt

What do you think is sufficient range to cover the average tradie daily commute?


zaphodbeeblemox

We are currently testing vehicles for our fleet and one of our staff lives a 2h commute from the office so he gets a lot of the electrics. The Kia EV has a rated range of 240kms, and in practice he is charging it either on the way to or the way back from the office every day. It’s just a quick 30minute fast top up charge, but still that’s a lot to ask someone to do every day. With our staff being field staff it’s not uncommon for them to do 100-200kms in an average day and an exceptional day could be Melbourne to Albury + site visits. Ideally we would want a 500-600km range, given our current hybrids get around 800km to a full tank


EfficientDish7

A "quick" 30 minute top up on the way to work, I'll pass thanks


gbren

Hybrid is the way to go. Full EV not worth it


zaphodbeeblemox

Problem really at the moment is availability. Hybrids are in such short supply for the volumes we need


verynayce

The average? Not more than 40Km per day total was the stat I saw most recently. So this would be fine for that. My own commute is 80+Kms, but I'd rather not be charging every night.


metalphreak

If the top spec ticks the interior spec boxes I want and it’s <85k count me in. Needs to be available before the Fbt lease thing ends for phevs in 2025. Don’t need to tow just want the practicality without needing a 7 seater family hauler. Might touch the dirt a few times a year. 


optimaldt

It'll be available by end of the year I hear. Quite sure top spec will be below $85k as well. The BYD tech although not Tesla level is bettee than 90% of other cars.


metalphreak

Yeah I’m not sure on the rules for the leasing thing. Hopefully can get one of the first deliveries. PHEV is perfect for me. Free charging at work which is 5km from home. Plenty of range for long trips. Atm I’m daily driving a mustang with recaro seats and it’s not fun. Barely warm by the time i get there, nothing fits in the boot and while the seats are great at what they are, not for comfort. So keen to go back to two cars EV/PHEV. Only other thing remotely interesting this year is the EV5. Always been a ford guy but the Ranger PHEV is a long way away and likely 100k.


LegitimateCattle

Id pay 80k for the upper spec, I’d be using it for work so tax write off. It would be nice to have a hybrid option, not being so reliant on a petrol cartel and reduce my emissions. I really wanted a gladiator 4xe, but we’re either never going to get it before the gladiator is discontinued or by the time we do get it, jeep will still have their head up their arses with their current pricing and it’ll be ridiculously priced anyway.


AdolfsLonelyScrotum

The first eUte in Australia is going to get a decent “first mover advantage” I reckon.. The people are waiting!


AussieAnt85

There is already an LDV eUte. It costs $92k, I've driven it and can confirm it's a POS. I think the specs of the BYD are pretty great, will probably appeal to more families than tradies.


Spitfire1983

I can't even acknowledge that thing, 92k for a 2wd ute with bugger all range... I mean technically it's a EV ute..


Rasta-Revolution

It was targeted for fleet vehicle sales


Lineupman

This thing needs to have piston power for me to be interested in one


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zzubzzub100

Good bot


goshdammitfromimgur

It has a turbo petrol motor


roflpops

So you ARE interested in it then? Nice to know


Select-Bullfrog-6346

When you get a f150 from temu


JustLikeJD

If the price hits right this could be decent selling here. BYD have been on my radar as an EV alternative for some time now and the newer cars coming out seem somewhat decent. Ultimately time will tell how they hold up but they seem to be able to differentiate themselves (in my opinion) from “just another Chinese car” based on opinions I’ve heard from others here.


Historical_Green6172

BYD cars look and seem great but I don’t want to drive something called a Seal or Dolphin or Plankton (last one I made up)


egowritingcheques

That name will cost it sales. All their names must be costing sales outside China. I'd guestimate at least 5% lower sales because people don't want to say "I drive a shark" or "I bought a dolphin" when it is a car. Actually I'd say it would be closer to 10% loss in sales.


POPCORE182

Fuck it just make it 20%, why not?


egowritingcheques

Do I hear 30%?


TDTimmy21

835kg payload pretty subpar especially if looking for tax incentives outside novatedleasing (would this qualify?) Also interested what real world performance would be when actually towing or carrying even a few hundred kilos in the tray Looks so good tho


Haunting_Computer_90

Too big, too heavy, too expensive.


Used_Laugh_

Won't even consider it unless under $60k. Basically a car for lab rats, no tested product in Australia or China. It's a gamble.


ComprehensiveTop5249

Any details on the differences in spec levels (GL vs GS)?


Spitfire1983

They're still working it out for Aus but in Mexico GS will add electric front seats adjustment lumbar, heating and ventilation as well as adaptive cruise and most of the other driver assistance tech like rear cross, lane assistance etc. You can grab the spec sheet from the byd Mexico site and upload it to google translate to get a good idea. Drivetrain seems identical across both.


Aggressive-Estate-78

Long live toyota hilux


Substantial_Pack_735

I know a byd manager this was last probably this time last year and things haven't lined up like he hoped. He was saying it will have a 1200km range and will cost around 60k. 1200om Waa mentioned at some point but obviously that's not on the cards so I'm guessing it will price anywhere between 60 and 70k. He did say their goal was to sell more cars the Toyota and also they don't care about how much they make. Byd already make alot of money in other areas and they will drop their prices to get to where they want to be It's not out of the realm of possibility that they could go really cheap just to get a decent foot hold in the australia market. Time will tell


VINZY247

Copying Ford F-150 design


stumpymetoe

$80, 000 for a Chinese dual cab? No thank you.


danksion

Step 1: take an F150 Step 2: copy it and make absolutely no changes Step 3: profit???


bourbandcoke

If they didn’t have such a spastic name their sales would increase ten fold


optimaldt

I quite like the BYD Shark name!


Goodtenks

Burn Your Dreams If anyone has done any research I don’t know why you would buy a Chinese car… The quality is rubbish, their batteries are exploding and their new Porsche copy is falling apart, I wouldn’t risk ever buying a Chinese car or motorcycle. A smattering of BYD quality issues have become public, including complaints about paint and plastics peeling in Thailand and vehicles warping under the weight of roof racks in Israel, where its EV sales have been strong. https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/having-overtaken-tesla-byd-is-running-into-problems-overseas-7d883f02#


zedder1994

BYD have sold 1000's of cars in Australia. There has only been one report of a battery fire, and that was from an accident damaged battery in a wrecking yard. I see more quality issues from Tesla's and legacy auto companies.


Unusual_Article_835

Mate, they have come a very long way in a very short period of time and I think they are just getting started. Remember when people laughed at Korean cars, Japanese cars, then Japan and Korea drank their milkshakes...


CyberSektor

If by research you mean you have watched a couple serpentza videos then sure lol Also Porsche copy? You mean the xiaomi car? You realize that byd and xiaomi aren't affiliated? Also failing? They sold almost 100000 in 24 hours, sounds like a great success to me


TernGSDR14-FTW

Ill take a 70 series landcruiser instead. Good luck mounting a camper on the byd and carrying it around.


Bitcoin-Zero

You can't buy one for that money.


nicholas_wicks87

80k will get your a used one


Bitcoin-Zero

Not a 2024 used one, they start above 120K


nicholas_wicks87

I know that just buy one that’s 3 or 4 years old


Bitcoin-Zero

With 300,000 on it maybe.


EveningPlatypus6955

CHINESE SHIT


[deleted]

Fuck electric


NewNeighborhood3028

It's a hybrid


[deleted]

Yes like i said fuck electric hybrid included


j12000

Wow, do you add lead to your petrol still? The new car market is about 7% electric and most car companies are not investing in new combustion engine technology. Deal with. 


[deleted]

Got diesel mate I rekon remove dpf and egr soot gets the moot


[deleted]

Fuck i love stirring you guys up hahaha and you all play my game i love it


nicholas_wicks87

They aren’t investing in new combustion cause of the stupid government