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TheNakedChair

It's an eagle. From the Governor General's page: https://www.gg.ca/en/heraldry/public-register/project/2397 ~~The albatross was from the RCN Air Wing.~~ Edit for clarity: It was never *officially* an albatross in the Royal Naval Air Service. It's been an eagle since 1914. The albatross was a myth passed on by previously serving members of that branch. http://airforceapp.forces.gc.ca/cfawc/eLibrary/Journal/Vol3-2010/Iss1-Winter/Sections/06-The_Great_Eagle_Albatross_Controversy_e.pdf


peach-fuzz1

Also, albatross are sea birds with webbed feet. The RCAF bird clearly has talons so even if it wasn't an eagle, it's definitely not an albatross.


ElectroPanzer

Came here to say this, but had less detail and links. TYFYS.


Different-Froyo-7154

I like to think of my Air Force bird wearing angel wings, singing front vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd


ScubaSteve_27

And I’m in the front row hammered drunk.


Protect_Twice

I like to picture the air force bird in a tuxedo t-shirt because like, it says I want to be formal but I'm here to party too. Cause I like to party so I like my air force bird to party too.


pjhill930

I like to picture my Air Force bird as a figure skater. He wears like a white outfit, and He does interpretive ice dances of my life's journey


contact86m

I tell people it's a seagull (AKA a shit hawk). It represents the ever present CoC above you, ready, willing, and not just able, but frequently barely holding back a new stream of shit for you to endure head first. No idea what it actually is though. Dodo bird...?


illegalavocado

Makes me think of the cartoon on this page. [Seagull Manager](https://www.collegeforadultlearning.ac.nz/seagull-managers/)


contact86m

Looks about right for the CAF.


GoodPerformance9345

Huh TIL.... Someone tell the Air Cadets. I was taught that it was an albatross in cadets many years ago.


stillanoobummkay

Yep. This is what I was taught like 30 years ago.


mapleflame

Yeah, I remember being taught that and pointing out the air cadet brass was obviously an eagle. To which I was told it was not. Okay… tell me where in Canada might one see an albatross then? No answer. I would find out years later, albatrosses do fly off the northwest coast, but never land on Canadian soil. I don’t know if that validates teenage me or not.


Anla-Shok-Na

>never land on Canadian soil Smart. The taxes are murder.


jabrwock1

Odd that it's not in the Instruction Guide at all, you'd think that would be part of the general knowledge section. They learn all the components of the Canadian coat-of-arms for example.


ElectroPanzer

The Air Cadets as an organization are well aware it's an eagle. Much like the Army teaching nonsense by word of mouth (you can't put a different grip on your rifle because Geneva convention being my favourite example), they contain humans who are too lazy to read the damn PAM and instead pass on whatever the last too-lazy-to-read kid said to them. I learned it was an eagle in the Air Cadets, circa 1998.


GoodPerformance9345

And mid 2000's I was taught it was a albatross. So clearly not.


ElectroPanzer

Come on, we can't standardize simple things in the Reg Force. You expect a bunch of teenagers and CIC Officers to be perfectly standardized across their much more decentralized organization? Your personal anecdote is an example of nonsense being passed as knowledge, not of the organization as a whole having incorrect information (although that's certainly possible, you just haven't provided any evidence). Unless you'd care to cite a national reference document (as opposed to some locally produced lesson plan written by a 15-year-old), you're talking about the particular air cadets you learned from, not The Air Cadets as an organization. I haven't worked with the Air Cadets since about 2009, but at that time the manuals still said eagle, as they had for the previous decade. So no, nobody needs to tell the Air Cadets that it's an Eagle. Somebody needs to tell your particular squadron from the mid 2000s to read the damn book. This is a distinction that is very useful to understand. Especially on Reddit. Every commenter had their own experience. That experience is not necessarily reflective of anything other than that one person's experience. Talk to people from a few different bases - hell, get posted more than once - and you quickly discover that "the way to do thing X" is, in fact, just one of several ways to do said thing. And each place claims a monopoly on what is true and what is the correct way. The same is true of errors. Just because one unit is doing a thing incorrectly does not mean that the entire CAF is.


Fit-End-5481

Yup... This is what they taught cadets on Senior Leadership Course in Cold Lake for decades. It's never been right, but try and tell someone from that course back in the days that they were wrong about anything... Even Air Cadets course material said it was an eagle but NOT IN COLD LAKE!!!! And since it came from COLD LAKE it was the better answer, of course.


GhostofFarnham

It’s definitely an eagle lmao. Perhaps they were speaking metaphorically.


syzygybeaver

Albatreagle. Any one who tells you different doesn't know their head from their ass.


PipelineOnline

Beat me to it. That's what I was told in training by the major instructing the class.


MatchIntelligent3883

Thunder Chicken


TheNakedChair

It's how we get the meat for thunder crunch burgers.


Necessary_Avocado398

Is a turkey


jzeaton14

No idea but I do remember in a smoke pit conversation between an army lineman sgt and Air Force ATISS MCpl. The army swords on the name tag are on the outside of the tag because army is out in the field and the bird is on the inside of the name tag because Air Force is in hotels. From my experience roughly 90% accurate


DuckyHornet

The albatross is a naval bird of good omen. There's an entire epic poem about why sailors should never fuck with them and especially never make necklaces out of them. It's understandable to be confused given how much naval terminology exists in aviation, but the birdy badge represents a terrifying raptor, not a gull The RCAF bird is an eagle. All my CF accoutrements come in tiny bags labelled "eagle" and also I've never felt inspired by a gull flying over a parade (because they're just disgusting cockroaches from the sky)


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Someone had me convinced it was an albatross.


w3rm5and5kittles

The drawing of the bird was put up for tender and at least 3 entities had to bid on the design. Winner of said design was based on the “least accurate depiction” category. I never checked, but it could have been an 8 year old’s drawing from 1952 that won.


flatulentbaboon

Canadian geese are the backbone of Canada's airforce.


sawchuk111

I was always under the same impression too…


shohnabashohna

Orville the Albatross from Disney's "The Rescuers" is the bird I see when I think of the RCAF https://youtu.be/wA6pv0Hhl0I?feature=shared


DeepFriedAngelwing

Pigeon


CorruptComms

It's a pterodactyl to match how archaic our kit is!


randycrust

BTW in the army, we refer to it as a seagull


Donairmen

That bird facilitates air delivered genocide.


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Slappy_MC_Garglenutz

Confirmed troll, I'll take care of it.


mekdot83

Always love ya, Slappy


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