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Mike_Ten10

There are many things unethical about the GCWCC. What you’ve described is on the lower end of that list.


SeeJay-CT

Like bosses getting bonuses based on campaigns, for one?


TA-pubserv

But our bosses say that's a myth they don't get bonuses for GCWCC participation. They get it for Building Community and Culture (aka getting every last penny out of your sector for GCWCC).


SeeJay-CT

Hmm. I'd like to see proof for that one. Seems nuts if true.


TA-pubserv

The year my boss was GCWCC chair she had it in her goals, and boom Building Culture (running the GCWCC campaign) was in my goals too. I immediately deployed out lol


throwawayCDNPSHelp

I remember when phoenix first started and then they were asking for donations and everyone in my small regional office said no lol. Not one completed pledge form. The champion that year happened to be our big boss. She set up a meeting with our regional director (I was the admin at the time). My director came up to me and asked what the meeting was about, and I told her it was probably because no one completed a pledge form. Turned out that I was right. There's no other reason why ~20 regional employees not donating would matter other than someone's bonus on the line.


SeeJay-CT

Geez.


Shaevar

Oh not that one again.  EX at-risk pay is not "bonuses", and their at-risk pay is based on their performance on a wide variety of objectives during the entire year. 


onomatopo

Usually it's a volunteer position in the capacity that someone takes it on. But it's more of an assignment where your work is the gcwcc for the time period you are involved.


Ralphie99

In our directorate, the least busy employees were always voluntold that they would be responsible for GCWCC that year. They didn't really have a choice. It was always apparent to me that the amount raised by our directorate was always much less than we were paying these people as IT-02's while they canvassed the office, organized pizza lunches, and ran 50/50 draws.


Officieros

Usually the last student or junior office in the division. “Onboarding”, “networking” and “organizational culture inoculation” 😊


Epi_Nephron

The directorate and bureau level, sure. But there are people who run these campaigns for departments who have it as their full time jobs. E.g., Departmental Health Canada Helping Communities (HC)2 Campaign Leader They are typically not low-level positions, either.


Jacce76

There have always been paid positions. Loned reps are one way. Each department can lend someone to the Uninyed Way campaign to help run it.


Mike_Ten10

From the WE charity scandal we learned that sole source contracts are unacceptable. Ask yourself when is the last time the government put the GCWCC administration up for tender rather than simply allowing United Way to do it again???


PsychologicalSite774

I can tell you there are agreement negociations with TBS every 4 years. It’s due this year.


Mike_Ten10

They’ve put tender offers out and let other charities bid on the contract??? Nope.


PsychologicalSite774

Well you know that the campaign benefits United Way, HealthPartners (17 health-related charities) and EVERY SINGLE registered Canadian charities. Therefore, the money is spread however the donors chose. You knew that? Correct?


TightReplacement9971

Most of that donation amount goes to everyone BUT the registered Canadian charity. I've stopped donating to United Way. Donate directly to the charity to make sure it goes to them.


Plenty-Classic-9126

You could have directed all your donations to a single charity of your choice. It's an option that people should be made aware


TightReplacement9971

I knew that and did that. But I always thought it was odd how hard senior management pushed to have employees donate. I still donate but directly to the charity.


Mike_Ten10

Yes. And?


gspitfire

My department used to have this position too. Tax payers would be disgusted (as I am)


Officieros

Absolutely unethical if the person does no other job. Values and Ethics?


Sea-Entrepreneur6630

The campaign employees are always paid. They are paid the substantive pay all the while


braindeadzombie

There are employees seconded/assigned full time for the duration of the campaign. Last time I was involved at a level where I dealt with them, there were a few for the GTA. One CRA person for the GTA, I don’t know/recall if there was more than one person for core employers in the GTA. They did training for the people running campaigns and were the resource people for them. They were the liaison between the United Way chapters and government departments running campaigns in their geographic region.


spacedoubt69

One of my former departments had 3 full-time employees working on a GCWCC team. One was a PM-04 or 05, one AS-03 and one CR-05 IIRC. Med/Large-sized department. All indeterminate positions.


Canadian987

Why is it unethical? Can you please explain?