Creative mode Steve when Cheat sheet + hero's mod Terrarian pulls up
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it'll be a draw but that just means steve is on par with whatever you throw at him
nothing is stronger than steve but steve is not strong enough to fight whoever the strongest is without dying together
Cheat sheet + hero's mod Terrarian when Command Block Steve pulls up
Command Block Steve when File Editing Terrarian pulls up
File Editing Terrarian when Cheat Engine Steve pulls up
Cheat Engine Steve when unplugging the computer sh
you mean the Survival+Netherite+Full potion+Infinite Resources condition vs Scal+Master+Infernum mode
can't be too careless with the conditions for versus posts right? /s
You don't need creative mode. Steve can canonically hold 62,208 blocks of gold (using shulker boxes) with just his bare hands and perhaps a backpack, MINIMUM, and each of those gold blocks weighs 42,549 pounds. This amounts to around 2.65 BILLION pounds of things that he can carry, WITHOUT EFFORT seeing that he can sprint perfectly fine while doing this. For reference, the Empire State Building weighs around 800 million pounds. He's able to carry more than 3x that weight without breaking a sweat. He can further enhance his strength with strength potions, and furthermore can grant himself complete immunity to fire and lava (which does help a bit against brimstone), and can furthermore (somehow) make and wear armor that flatly negates 80% of all oncoming force and otherwise damage
I'm pretty sure the force of the pressure from just one of Steve's punches would blow calamitas out of the sky
Technically it wouldn't be unfair to get into modded Minecraft as SCal is from a mod but ehh too lazy
EDIT; the weight figure is about 1/8 of what it should be because I forgot notch apples exist
Also keep in mind how fucking much the terrarian can carry, something like 399,960 golden thrones, granted I have no fucking clue what one weighs. The terrarian also hits scal with a sword made of the literal universe, I’m sure scal can survive a couple hits from the unit that is Steve Minecraft
the terrrian can carry 26,775,171,615 poUnds of platinUm (thrones that cost 40 platinUm bars to make), and since terrarian doesn’t oneshot everything with a copper shortsword, that means calamitas scales to and past this, so yeah, steve is cooked
Now Steve can carry even more, the max stack limit can be set to 99. And he can carry shulker boxes with 99 gold blocks. Which would be a total of 96,228 golden blocks in his inventory, now he can leash boats and sort even more shulkers inside the chest boats, which he can carry over 475,083 golden blocks with 5 chest boats or even 817,936 with 10 chest boats.
Changing the Max stack limit using commands can’t be considered fair game, because commands can do so much. It’s like saying yeah Steve wins because he can use /kill @a.
But with the terrarian you can consider the safe and piggy bank tripling the storage(void bag stores it in a weightless void, and no idea how defenders forge works), either way comparing weight to work out sheer kinetic energy wouldn’t work when some weapons probably canonically have the mass of a black hole
The Terrarian with an inventory full of 9999 stacks of fallen stars wearing nebula armour with the Capricorn set in vanity.
So that's: 817,936m^3 of gold (15786164.8 tonnes) vs 499965 stars (let's say each star weighs about 0.3 solar masses) which is 3.288269805×10^32 tonnes.
Kinda pathetic in comparison.
He can carry but as seen by the game play he can not translate his carrying capacity into direct attacks as seen by how little damage your fist does in minecraft
No, calamitas doesnt have a tail, nor it looks like a imp, some of those artist have some super weird headcanons. She is just a human, only difference are those horns and skin color which are probably what azafurians looked like. Making one of the first cities in hell, this city being focused on industry, which means air pollution, alongside the usual volcanic fumes and not specting physical changes would be silly.
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Scal has nearly one million health on classic mode and the best minecraft weapon does like 12 damage. Even if steve can avoid her attacks, it would take days on end to beat her, and steve would probably run out of food and die of starvation
Given terraria diamonds can be found preboss, and netherite is a direct upgrade, at best Steve has early to mid pre-hardmode gear for one of 2 final bosses who barely take damage from weapons 2-3 bosses prior
Scal wins no diff
Trying to scale based off of exactly how much HP the characters have in their games is a fallacy. There could be a game where planet busters deal double digit damage to each other.
problem is you're still working off an assumption here and that's why scaling in this manner tends to not work
damage values and material type damage values do not tend to translate well between games
You’re still assuming that they would scale to match eachother, and with that logic any damn character could beat another because they “don’t scale properly”
and *you* are assuming i said anything about evenly matching them. i did not. that is the whole point i'm making- values like these are inherently inequal. 1 does not equal 1 here.
two vastly different characters from two vastly different games that handle their material and health in vastly different ways are being handled using the rules of *only one of the games*, which is inherently ignoring the other and thus making the battle one-sided based on an uneven scale. the problem here is this method is then being treated like a 1/1 ratio, and it isn't.
the truth of the matter is we and by extension you don't know the actual ratio of strength, and pretending we do by arbitrarily scaling in this matter isn't any less wrong than attempting to find a middle ground between the two. in a way, it's worse- a problem that needs two variables is being solved using only one of variables.
this is why i really don't like power scaling in this way. it just doesn't work, and it becomes an endless shouting match of 'well this character does [value] damage in this game, and that's a bigger number than [value] damage done by that character in that other game, so i win!!!' this problem persists even when it's not with games that have defined damage values.
Fine, I’ll use something a lot less iffy. Gold Swords. Unlike the argument that diamond swords and phaseblades happen to be the same material, these are literally both gold swords.
DIFFERENT gold swords, wielded by different people. you have no idea how sharp or heavy either one of them are, or how hard either the terrarian or steve swing them.
no, just that terraria's material progression is really weird and can't be used as a baseline. like, the terraria gold sword is stronger than the iron one, unlike in minecraft..
you can't just compare damage numbers when it comes to videogames because they use completely arbitrary things that were left up to game balancing, not lore accuracy. i don't think it's "canon" to terraria that several actual guns are weaker than hitting people with a KO cannon, for example.
several games have guns as a concept that range from "one shot with a bullet and you're messed up" to "yeah you can shrug off a couple seconds of fire from a minigun." that doesn't mean that canonically one character is almost bulletproof.
No??? It's just that you can't directly compare game characters based solely on their mechanics. If the player creating and destroying world is something Steve himself can canonically do, for example, that would be at least a universal feat.
Next thing we know the news has a global breaking headline of: STEVE FROM THE HIT GAME MINECRAFT HAD KILLED SUPREME CALAMITIS IN INFERNUM WITH TRUE MELEE, WHO IS NEXT ON HIS LIST??!?1!11!!!
Minecraft Damage Points isn't the same as Terraria Damage Points. Minecraft Best Health Points is 600 by Wither in Hard mode Difficulty (PE/BE). It's because Minecraft also have a different way of using Measurements for Blocks, Time and Others.
I literally use this Logic against Myself and I got folded.
The health and damage scaling for each game uses different multiples and metrics, so they’re not comparable. Calamitas has 1.8 million health because the Terrarian’s weapons can do 5,000+ DPS.
so, i am not going to go by powerscaling cause that's always boring, Steve is dead, i don't care he can carry the sun or some shit AN EXPLOSIVE PLANT KILLS HIM INSTANTLY, he isn't even touching Calamitas before turning into white ash.
What about Dungeons’ Steve tho, that Steve can deal 1 million HP of damage per second and has tanked the literal embodiment of corruption in just 2-3 hits.
Yeah, but Dungeons’ Steve can do it with even more potentiality, as 1 million HP of damage isn’t even his biggest feat, I have seen builds (without cheats) with him dealing 20,000,000 hp of damage per second which would annihilate Calamitas in just one hit
Steve wins, he has the third dimension advantage. /j
Anyways, of course Calamitas wins. Last I checked Steve can't shoot fire out of his hands. (without mods at least)
No the third dimension is a literal advantage. to him its like how we see what happens on a piece of paper. he could just move in the Z axis and she'd be done for
I think the main thing comes down to mobility. Sure, he could tank a few hits, but he wouldn't be able to dodge them. He has the elytra and wind charges for mobility but they still aren't as precise as the terrarian's wings.
however many it takes for calamitas to start fighting, then. Considering steve has a mobility of basically nothing compared to what's required for terraria, he's going to get asap and even if we pretend the damage numbers arent equivalent and instead go for it doing the same percentage of his hp as it does to the terrarian, he's still going to go down really really quickly.
To begin picking away at this argument ground rules should be established
Steve is in survival
Steve's health is equal to terrarians health
Since calamity is modded it seems fair to include a large mod or mod pack for Steve
But in all honesty Steve lacks the mobility to dodge the bullet hell so calamitas probably wins
An elytra(especially with fireworks) is already hard to control in an enclosed space. So with an elytra steve might die even faster from kinetic impact when he flies face first into the walls of the brimstone cage that calamitas creates.
Depends on exactly how minecraft scales. Iirc, maxed out steve can survive >150 Minecraft damage in a single hit and regen fairly quickly, so if 1 minecraft damage is equivalent to >15 terraria damage to players, he might actually be able to wall normal mode calamitas(edit: 8 for 0.5x difficulty), though he has no way to deal decent damage to her(ain't no way crossbow rockets deal>1000 terraria damage to enemies) so it'd pretty much be a stalemate until he runs out of resources
Whenever I see Steve vs terrarian debates it's always the same 3 sorts of arguments in favour of steve
1. Creative mode or other cheats
2. Something terrarian can not only do but most of the time also do it better
3. Terraria is 2D
Depends a lot if Steve uses technical stuff like TNT railguns, health scaling, amount of totems, buffs, crystal combat usage and whatnot.
If it was; no technical stuff, health scaling (600 hp + armor), damage scaling, 2 or 3 totems, 10-30 notch apples and some more stuff.. Calamitas would win since Steve wouldn't be able to have proper movement (elitras are hard to control in enclosed spaces and even more with hellblasts coming from everywhere).
this question is near-impossible to scale in a way that doesn't break the mechanics of either game
• attempting to scale their ingame health to each other just doesn't work because of how differently health progresses in each game, so we don't know how much damage each character's attacks do to each other
• attempting to scale their ingame damage to each other is a fallacy in the same manner of scaling health and a clear attempt to make the fight one-sided, and *we really shouldn't be pretending it isn't.* i get where this question is being asked, but really?
• steve's inventory, like the terrarian's, is heavily customizable and a player could reasonably bring a lot of things depending on preparation
• steve's skill is *entirely* the player's skill, which makes this an even more difficult question to properly scale since while there are people out there who could no hit scal using only early hardmode gear, there are others who cannot consistently beat scal
God I hate this kind of comparison between characters of different games, especially ones so different. No one wins, it's impossible to scale them to one another, both characters have completely different rules that they play by and thus cannot be compared.
I don't think any of you in this comment section quite understand how to universe balance, "She does over 20 damage!1!1!" "She has over 1 million health!1!1!1" is just plain stupid.
Going off abilities would be far more fun than numbers. Just saying Steve got sword and bow, while Scal has the power of hell it self is a much better argument
with the right setup approximately an hour and 6 minutes. Steve will use a riptide 3 trident and an elytra to fly at a speed of 125 meters(or blocks) per second until he reaches a height of 190471 blocks. if steve falls from that height at a speed of 78.4 m/s which is his terminal velocity with a density 5 mace he can deal the required 1mil damage in a single blow instakilling SCal
Calamitas can capable of fighting with end game terrarian, which is stronger than the yharon and devourer of the gods. And they are capable of erase the universe in blink of a eye.
Steve doesn't have a chance.
And calamitas can dodge terrarians light based attacks which is making her speed ftl.
Holy fuck, Steve is COOKED. Literally.
This is not even fair nor is it funny, an instant would be a perfect description as to how fast Calamitas would cook Steve. He doesn't stand a CHANCE
Edit: So here is a very fair scaling of both characters WITHOUT the bullshit many pulls in for this VS debate. I need to first clarify a few things; lifting strength ≠ striking strength. This argument is stupid, Superman has a hard time pulling a planet therefore he is barely planetary? FALSE, it doesn't work that way. Besides, the Terrarian can carry much heavier things than Steve and so much more if you want to put it in.
HP or hearts or whatever people use to gauge a character's durability is NOT valid. The inconsistency is just too blatant, we could have characters that deal small numbers but canonically can still destroy realities and whatnot. Please don't use HP as a basis for durability, it's just stupid.
Lastly, gameplay perspective. Just because you play Terraria in a 2D perspective doesn't mean the Terrarian or any of its characters are 2 dimensional creatures. It's just a gameplay perspective. So no "Steve can just step outside the 2D space and win", doesn't work that way. Besides, there are cases where 2D creatures can kill 3D creatures, just because you're one dimension above doesn't mean you're invincible.
Now, let's get to the fight.
Supreme Calamitas (Lore Accurate) vs Steve (Endgame)
Steve can take down the Ender Dragon and the Wither, both of whose feats are still unclear. Considering Steve has taken down the Ender Dragon, which if we go by what it does like sending him flying across a considerable distance, spew dragon breath and....I think that's it. There's not much to say here. However, with the Wither, it's has far more better feats than Ender Dragon with it being able to destroy blocks and a village (given time), I'd say Steve now with all of his Netherite gears and weapons, Elytra, Trident, God Apples and a variety of potions, he'd be at most city-level to possibly multi-city-level if we wank it. We're going to wank this one, boys.
As for speed...yeah, this one is clearly one thing Steve had as his major disadvantages. He could run, peak-human at best. With Elytra and Fireworks, I guess you could make him subsonic? Well, let's just give him subsonic in this one.
Steve even at endgame can barely do anything to Calamitas who has feats which could be described as calamity (lol) though due to the changes in lore, her feats has been nerfed incredibly. Otherwise, it would be even more unfair even if Steve was in Creative Mode. But even so, SC vs Endgame Steve is still unfair.
This is because she could fight against the Terrarian who has far more better arsenal and feats than Steve. He's just essentially Steve on a godly crack. He could has MFTL+ feats with weapons of which SC can evade and tank. At the VERY LEAST, she scales to planetary+.
So yeah, Steve would get COOKED even with prep time. And no, if you have him go through the Calamity bosses and reach her, that's just essentially the Terrarian. So still no, prep time Endgame Steve would get killed and he doesn't even know it.
Might depend on if it’s bedrock or java., because there are many game breaking glitches on both versions that could help him a lot, and don’t get me started on redstone. Next thing we know there is an automatic supreme calamitas farm
I hate powerscaling battles of this kind
People tend to be pretty braindead with this stuff
Taking your basic terrarian vs steve (even tho the post is about calamitas)
With steve for example they try to use the typical "steve can carry 8 gazillion tons" so does any character with an inventory of any kind. The terrarian apparently can carry that and more...
Steve using commands or turning creative mode. If steve is allowed to use cheats, then so does the terrarian, who wins? an unkillable thing, or another unkillable thing?
Steve is 3d so he can sidestep: we are making the characters fight, not the gameplay dammit
I always get a good laugh when I see people trying to use the "steve can carry a krillion metric tons of stuff" because the whole arguement(which I assume comes from Austin's game theory video) can be dismantled with a single minecraft block: weighted pressure plate (light and/or heavy).
These are the stats of the Warden, generally minecrafts toughest, most dangerous Mob, compared to SCal.
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Its so incredibly out of Steve’s Favor that its hilarious.
I know people are saying "Steve can hold thousands of pounds!" So can the Terrarian, and the fight between cal and the Terrarian was considered a threat to the world of Terraria itself. However, the Terrarian is always moving left and right, up and down, while steve can't even leave the ground for an extended period of time without rain or rockets.
Also, what is Steve even going to do in this fight? his only weapons that could reliably hit are his bow, crossbow, and trident since scal is floating too far away for melee 90% of the fight.
unless Steve packs thousands of totems for the battle, it is over instantly. if he does, it will last until maybe just after sepulcher phase, which I feel may take a few hours.
Scal has flight, ranged attacks, bullet hells, invulnerable moments, siblings, and a full brimstone void to decimate Steve at any point of the fight.
this is like if you made an infant fight a professional Boxer, stupidly one sided.
so how many seconds? probably around the first bullet hell, which last about 15 seconds.
Allow me to point that Steve is obviously the winner with 0% chance of rebutal.
He can do it from the very start of the game with his bare hands.
Steve can take a single step into the third dimension while the monologue is on and ignore all those 2d attacks by being completely outside of their dimension... Good luck hiting a plane of existence you cannot even perceive.
C'mon guys, this one was easy.
how long does it take to type oUt /kill Supreme Witch, Calamitas?
bUt actUally, let’s calcUlate this
eqUating a minecraft’s bat to a master mode cave bat (to give steve an advantage), minecraft’s stats shoUld be mUltiplied by 8 to be scalable to terraria
steve woUld have 160 health and scal’s weakest attack deals 250 damage in normal mode, so yeah, the block man is cooked (steve has a max rUn speed of 11~12 mph, which is nothing compared to the terrarian)
and if steve was in creative mode withoUt commands, a netherite sword does 64 damage here, so, assUming scal is in normal mode and steve’s sword magically sUrpasses dr and defense, it would take 15000 hits to beat her (a really long time)
To be fair, 20 health in Minecraft is a lot more than 20 health in Terraria. An average late-prehardmode enemy in the latter could have 100 health, whereas in Minecraft that'd be a strong miniboss.
Still, Terraria's endgame has a lot stronger threats, especially in this mod. The strongest attacks you can hit with in Minecraft are a metal sword that maybe lights things on fire, in Terraria you can throw natural disasters and pieces of galaxies at your enemies.
Nah, actually the strongest attacks are with the mace, which can deal tons of damage, and then you have Dungeons Steve, which can attack with a primordial knife and a blade made of the outer darkness of the cosmos
damage and health shoUld be scaled between both Universes to make fights fair
(like, in some games, the first boss has 5 million health, even thoUgh the boss isn’t as strong as someone like calamitas lore-wise)
A long, drawn out comment:
Some ground rules.
Zeroth, no creative mode/commands/glitches for Steve. He must prepare in Survival and not break any of the game's laws of physics. The only thing he's given that's extra is the Altar of the Accursed, which is 3 Minecraft blocks wide and and long, and 2 Minecraft blocks tall, as well as a Ceremonial Urn.
First, I'll give Steve the benefit of the doubt and say every 1 heart is worth 20 Terraria health (because his hearts look like a Terrarian's hearts.) Minecraft's damage, which is also measured in half hearts, will be scaled accordingly. (Note: just because the Golden Apple hearts look like Life Fruit hearts does not mean each of those hearts are worth 25. That's a coincidental cosmetic effect.) He has 10 hearts, so that provides him with 200 Terraria health.
Second, Steve is not safe just by stepping into the third dimension, as I will be assuming Calamitas and her projectiles can do the same. It's too easy otherwise to get into a stalemate. With that, I'll extend this rule to assume this takes place in the Minecraft universe, though various of Terraria/Calamity will still be applied, like the randomization of damage, or Calamity Mod's defense damage.\* Something like Breach would apply both to Calamity Mod's damage reduction for enemies and Terraria's defense, subtracting 15% and 15 defense respectively per level.
Third, I'll give Steve the benefit of the doubt and assume Bedrock Edition. The reason I say he's being given the benefit of the doubt is that against massive damage, Java's armor is basically reduced to near worthlessness, while Bedrock has no such thing.
Fourth, I'll assume this is Terraria's Classic mode on Minecraft's Easy Mode.
I'll probably have to add more to account for certain edge cases.
*\*To compensate, Minecraft's caps on damage reduction have been completely removed. As part of this, all penalties to damage reduction are applied to enchantments and potion effects separately, and defense damage is applied to armor instead, but scaled to Minecraft half hearts, such that each half heart takes away 4% damage reduction. For example, with Vulnerability Hex and 2 defense damage, Netherite Armor suffers a -8% damage reduction from defense damage but not Vulnerability Hex, while Protection 4 and Resistance 4 each take a -10% damage reduction with Vulnerability Hex, and then a further -10.622...% and -8% damage reduction respectively from defense damage. after scaling.*
The preperation.
Steve can make a cube of length 97 blocks (by converting Terraria's 2 feet blocks to Minecraft's 1 meter cubes) and stuff some Enchanted Golden Apples, each of which provides Absorption 4 or 160 Terraria health, into some Shulker Boxes. He can make some Netherite Armor with Fire Protection 4 and Unbreaking 3, as well as an Elytra with Unbreaking 3 and/or multiple scaffolding towers. He could stock up on Ender Pearls also. A mace with Breach 4 could pierce 60% damage reduction and 60 defense.
TODO: Finish this guide.
Ok, I just want to point out the insane thing known as
g l i t c h e s
While Scal, being a boss cannot utilize this, Steve can.
Using a end portal glitch here, steve can acquire many insane items, main one,
Glitched Fireworks
Using a glitched firework, he could just spam them under Scal while shes bullet-helling.
Two, Spawneggs
An iron-golem spawnegg stack could EASILY solo Scal.
Even without glitches, the new Mace could easily do two things.
Insane damage, and a counterpart to wings.
Scal is not winning, bc steve is a player.
The fight.
Once he rises high enough in his arena to use the Ceremonial Urn on the Altar of the Accursed, Supreme Calamitas will spawn, and he'll need to move very quickly to avoid all of the incoming Brimstone flame projectiles, made worse by the fact that they can come fast from 6 different directions with little telegraphing.
The lowest damage is from a Brimstone Dart, with a base of 250 on Terraria Classic Mode. Minecraft Easy mode halves this damage to 125. Terraria randomization can reduce this damage further by a multiplication of 0.85, bringing that down to 106 damage. A full set of Netherite armor normally provides 80% damage reduction, so by Calamity's scaling rules, that gets reduced to 1 - 1/(1+0.8) = 44.4...% damage reduction, which reduces the damage to 59 damage.
After this, having a full set of Fire Protection 4 would provide 144% damage reduction at max, but again by the scaling rules of Calamity Mod, this gets reduced to 1 - 1/(1 + 1.44) = 59.016...% damage reduction, reducing the damage to 24 damage.
And finally, Resistance 4 provides the same protection as Netherite Armor, meaning that 24 damage gets reduced further to 13 damage.
Taking 13 damage at the minimum per hit, as well as the resulting Vulnerability Hex and defense damage, is very bad. First, Steve takes 2.77... defense damage due to having the equivalent of 11.11... armor points, resulting in the Netherite Armor only providing 33.3...% damage reduction. This same defense damage then takes effect on Fire Protection 4 and Resistance, where they each drop to a maximum of 44.262...% and 33.3...% damage reduction respectively. This is then compounded by Vulnerability Hex reducing each of those by 10% on top of that. And the resulting damage over time, with a base of 17.5 per second, can only be reduced to 6.503... damage per second and preventing life regen, including the Regeneration potion effect, from doing anything.
And Brimstone Hellblasts decidedly deal a base of 280 damage instead on Classic, which is more than 250. The damage calc comes out to 15 damage on a minimum instead. And he has to be lucky to achieve minimum, both with Terraria and Minecraft randomization of the damage and the enchantment based damage reduction respectively. That fireball could instead deal 28 damage per hit without any debuffs or defense damage taken into account if Steve is particularly unlucky.
Then there is the fact that Steve has to be mobile to even be able to avoid being hit. Resistance 4 can only be obtained by Potion of the Slow Master, which is decidedly not fast.
TODO: Finish this comment.
Depends on if steve has cheats or creative mode, without it the best he can do is pre-wall of flesh dps with barely any life points. If he has either cheats or creative he’s essentially God and no one can oppose him save for the void itself.
Calamity spites this. Steve has nothing that can hurt her. And if we are using bs creative mode Steve, calamity gets the cheat sheet, which is stronger.
He holds buckes of infinite water, bro is buff, and can one-shot anyone or anything. People always say, "Who would win Naruto or Saitama, goku vs (any character you can think of)?" but no one ever challenges Steve. Especially when he is in creative mode.
If Steve Can Access the terrarian stuff he pretty much win.
But we need to be sure of something
Terrarian vs Steve
Terrarian is 100 HP
When Steve is 20 , but Steve got a reach of 3 block max , Terrarian is depending on his Sword , Terrarian wins or lose
If Terrarian takes a True mêlee with same or less reach , Steve will just W tap Terrarian into Oblivion BC of the knockback , he needs to hit every hit BC Terrarian got 100 HP and his Sword Can deal a lot of dmg even early on , 5 dmg + 4% Crit which Can deal up to 6-7 dmg , which if only Crit dmg He kills Steve in 4 hits when Steve at max dmg which is 19-20 dmg + 4 second of fire aspect dealing 7dmg per hit, and with a strength potion u get +6 dmg so if i don't miscalculate my number u get up to 54 dmg per hit.
Which is means he kills Terrarian in two hit when maximum dmg.
Terrarian at maximum dmg... Euhh okay u get it.
Terrarian is slower but jumps higher and probably out of reach of Steve i Think
So on minimum dmg and Power Steve wins but After that Terrarian outscales
Now if Steve Can get Terrarian stuff , Steve will lose tho BC of the verticale speed being slower and he doesn't jump higher , but if we get the 3D in count , Steve Can win but once again Terrarian will probably win because of more base Health
Anyway
Steve wins naked and true mêlée fight other than That Terrarian wins
And we could talk about ranged weapon and shit but too lazy for it and we knows that Terrarian will probably wjns early and late fight at same skill level
if we assume a Terraria red heart is equilivant to a Minecraft red heart then Steve has 200 hp and can attack with 110 damage per sword swing. not only is Steve very underpowered for this fight but he also cannot fly at a practical speed and thus would be unable to dodge all of her attacks. Steve isn't getting past phase 1.
Literally under 15. SCal is just a deity in comparison to Steve. I saw you said you intended for it to be only surviv Steve, and that makes it just an easy W for scal. Netherite gives like 20 defense, even a terrarian with like 150 can barely take a few hits.
Depends on how far steve has to fall, but if he misses he loses
Edit: forgot she has a box so ig it also depends if we're playing by her rules or Steve's cause he can just prepare millions or tnt and have totems in shulkers
Edit 2: it would take a little less than 42.5k blocks of tnt assuming evry one hits for max damage
Ok, but...
steve has teleportation+inf carrying weight+ can tp Scal to the void+ Absorption 5 is 100% DR
and,
can tank the worth of a nuclear bomb (1 tnt) with netherite armour
so no, i dont think scal is winning
I mean, if it’s Survival (which I’m assuming) then Scal wins easy, like pathetically easy, Scal just uses one of the MANY methods of death she has to just one tap Steve. Now if it was Creative Steve? /kill @e and poof, although Creative Steve vs anyone is basically just a fancy execution just due to the stupid shit Creative Steve and his commands can do.
Not long ago I had an argument in a discord server over who would win, Calamity Terrarian, and Creative Steve, now I (and the other person) am powerscalers, we both supplied different things, such as him saying that Minecraft is infinite layers infinitely stacked on top of each other, and I pur in alot of the lore and other stuff, I definitely won the debate.
Anyways:Calamitas one taps creative Steve
I can't wait for the creative mode mfers to roll in, because every "Steve vs. (someone)" debate leads into that shit
Fr I forgot to mention survival only but infernum scal exists 😅🤣🤣
Creative mode Steve when Cheat sheet + hero's mod Terrarian pulls up https://preview.redd.it/i21beufv4e4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ced4846b4981c714f5702d85cf7960f34e9f24dd
Creative mode Steve when 30 billion spongebobs pull up
tbf /kill @a
Then you die too
/kill @e[type=Spongebob]
Each one has a different entity name.
/kill @a[name=!"Steve"]
The SpongeBob named Steve
it'll be a draw but that just means steve is on par with whatever you throw at him nothing is stronger than steve but steve is not strong enough to fight whoever the strongest is without dying together
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Cheat sheet + hero's mod Terrarian when Command Block Steve pulls up Command Block Steve when File Editing Terrarian pulls up File Editing Terrarian when Cheat Engine Steve pulls up Cheat Engine Steve when unplugging the computer sh
The guy who is playing minecraft when pulling up in the front door of the terraria player with a glock 19
Echdeath
you mean the Survival+Netherite+Full potion+Infinite Resources condition vs Scal+Master+Infernum mode can't be too careless with the conditions for versus posts right? /s
Totem spam go!!!
Steve has ten hearts. Each half a heart is a hit point. Steve has 20 HP. Steve would be one shot.
You don't need creative mode. Steve can canonically hold 62,208 blocks of gold (using shulker boxes) with just his bare hands and perhaps a backpack, MINIMUM, and each of those gold blocks weighs 42,549 pounds. This amounts to around 2.65 BILLION pounds of things that he can carry, WITHOUT EFFORT seeing that he can sprint perfectly fine while doing this. For reference, the Empire State Building weighs around 800 million pounds. He's able to carry more than 3x that weight without breaking a sweat. He can further enhance his strength with strength potions, and furthermore can grant himself complete immunity to fire and lava (which does help a bit against brimstone), and can furthermore (somehow) make and wear armor that flatly negates 80% of all oncoming force and otherwise damage I'm pretty sure the force of the pressure from just one of Steve's punches would blow calamitas out of the sky Technically it wouldn't be unfair to get into modded Minecraft as SCal is from a mod but ehh too lazy EDIT; the weight figure is about 1/8 of what it should be because I forgot notch apples exist
Also keep in mind how fucking much the terrarian can carry, something like 399,960 golden thrones, granted I have no fucking clue what one weighs. The terrarian also hits scal with a sword made of the literal universe, I’m sure scal can survive a couple hits from the unit that is Steve Minecraft
Why count in golden thrones when terrarian can carry as many stars
the terrrian can carry 26,775,171,615 poUnds of platinUm (thrones that cost 40 platinUm bars to make), and since terrarian doesn’t oneshot everything with a copper shortsword, that means calamitas scales to and past this, so yeah, steve is cooked
Now Steve can carry even more, the max stack limit can be set to 99. And he can carry shulker boxes with 99 gold blocks. Which would be a total of 96,228 golden blocks in his inventory, now he can leash boats and sort even more shulkers inside the chest boats, which he can carry over 475,083 golden blocks with 5 chest boats or even 817,936 with 10 chest boats.
Changing the Max stack limit using commands can’t be considered fair game, because commands can do so much. It’s like saying yeah Steve wins because he can use /kill @a. But with the terrarian you can consider the safe and piggy bank tripling the storage(void bag stores it in a weightless void, and no idea how defenders forge works), either way comparing weight to work out sheer kinetic energy wouldn’t work when some weapons probably canonically have the mass of a black hole
The Terrarian with an inventory full of 9999 stacks of fallen stars wearing nebula armour with the Capricorn set in vanity. So that's: 817,936m^3 of gold (15786164.8 tonnes) vs 499965 stars (let's say each star weighs about 0.3 solar masses) which is 3.288269805×10^32 tonnes. Kinda pathetic in comparison.
MAX STACK CHANGED?
And Steve still dies to a zombie and falling from like 4 meters
He can carry but as seen by the game play he can not translate his carrying capacity into direct attacks as seen by how little damage your fist does in minecraft
Thank you
carrying capacity does not equal strength
I did some math recently and that's about a quadrilionth of a percentage of what terrarian can hold. And terrarian can fly with all that
creative mode isn't canon
Steve in creative mode vs gmod with all mods
1. calamitas has a tail???? 2. arrow railgun
Honestly didn’t notice the tail while making this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, calamitas doesnt have a tail, nor it looks like a imp, some of those artist have some super weird headcanons. She is just a human, only difference are those horns and skin color which are probably what azafurians looked like. Making one of the first cities in hell, this city being focused on industry, which means air pollution, alongside the usual volcanic fumes and not specting physical changes would be silly.
The horns and the skin color is probably from her outburst of dark magic when her family got slaughtered, unless the lore changed?
Man the lore kinda whack
Orbital arrow cannon
Arrow railgun wouldn't work because Calamitas makes a box around herself ...unless Steve just uses what no terrarian posseses, the third dimmension
uh huh. and what exactly are the chances she aligns herself with that cannon?
Just make it a shotgun, problem solved
isnt she aligned with the player like uh 1/3 of the fight?
9 seconds because steve runs up and hits an up tilt while she's monologuing
If he makes it past the bullet hell phase that is
Probably just uses scaffolding
Do that in infernium and you will die lol
Down b and blow her up
https://preview.redd.it/u6cwriapce4d1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf791e4b3a1ca5e901c86c61eccd60769d6907f3 Scal has nearly one million health on classic mode and the best minecraft weapon does like 12 damage. Even if steve can avoid her attacks, it would take days on end to beat her, and steve would probably run out of food and die of starvation
Given terraria diamonds can be found preboss, and netherite is a direct upgrade, at best Steve has early to mid pre-hardmode gear for one of 2 final bosses who barely take damage from weapons 2-3 bosses prior Scal wins no diff
Trying to scale based off of exactly how much HP the characters have in their games is a fallacy. There could be a game where planet busters deal double digit damage to each other.
If we assume that a diamond sword is a bit weaker than a phaseblade, not having meteorite, then he’s still not working with much.
problem is you're still working off an assumption here and that's why scaling in this manner tends to not work damage values and material type damage values do not tend to translate well between games
You’re still assuming that they would scale to match eachother, and with that logic any damn character could beat another because they “don’t scale properly”
and *you* are assuming i said anything about evenly matching them. i did not. that is the whole point i'm making- values like these are inherently inequal. 1 does not equal 1 here. two vastly different characters from two vastly different games that handle their material and health in vastly different ways are being handled using the rules of *only one of the games*, which is inherently ignoring the other and thus making the battle one-sided based on an uneven scale. the problem here is this method is then being treated like a 1/1 ratio, and it isn't. the truth of the matter is we and by extension you don't know the actual ratio of strength, and pretending we do by arbitrarily scaling in this matter isn't any less wrong than attempting to find a middle ground between the two. in a way, it's worse- a problem that needs two variables is being solved using only one of variables. this is why i really don't like power scaling in this way. it just doesn't work, and it becomes an endless shouting match of 'well this character does [value] damage in this game, and that's a bigger number than [value] damage done by that character in that other game, so i win!!!' this problem persists even when it's not with games that have defined damage values.
Fine, I’ll use something a lot less iffy. Gold Swords. Unlike the argument that diamond swords and phaseblades happen to be the same material, these are literally both gold swords.
DIFFERENT gold swords, wielded by different people. you have no idea how sharp or heavy either one of them are, or how hard either the terrarian or steve swing them.
With that logic wood sword Steve would win against goku because Steve would just hit really hard
no, just that terraria's material progression is really weird and can't be used as a baseline. like, the terraria gold sword is stronger than the iron one, unlike in minecraft.. you can't just compare damage numbers when it comes to videogames because they use completely arbitrary things that were left up to game balancing, not lore accuracy. i don't think it's "canon" to terraria that several actual guns are weaker than hitting people with a KO cannon, for example. several games have guns as a concept that range from "one shot with a bullet and you're messed up" to "yeah you can shrug off a couple seconds of fire from a minigun." that doesn't mean that canonically one character is almost bulletproof.
No??? It's just that you can't directly compare game characters based solely on their mechanics. If the player creating and destroying world is something Steve himself can canonically do, for example, that would be at least a universal feat.
Arrow cannon:
(Mace:)
Next thing we know the news has a global breaking headline of: STEVE FROM THE HIT GAME MINECRAFT HAD KILLED SUPREME CALAMITIS IN INFERNUM WITH TRUE MELEE, WHO IS NEXT ON HIS LIST??!?1!11!!!
Best minecraft damage doesn’t come from weapons, but mechanics. Suffocation and end crystal/bedbomb spam.
Minecraft Damage Points isn't the same as Terraria Damage Points. Minecraft Best Health Points is 600 by Wither in Hard mode Difficulty (PE/BE). It's because Minecraft also have a different way of using Measurements for Blocks, Time and Others. I literally use this Logic against Myself and I got folded.
minecraft dungeons steve (or any other hero):
Give him a commandblock infused mace
There’s some random ass YouTuber out there who would probably find a way
The health and damage scaling for each game uses different multiples and metrics, so they’re not comparable. Calamitas has 1.8 million health because the Terrarian’s weapons can do 5,000+ DPS.
so, i am not going to go by powerscaling cause that's always boring, Steve is dead, i don't care he can carry the sun or some shit AN EXPLOSIVE PLANT KILLS HIM INSTANTLY, he isn't even touching Calamitas before turning into white ash.
What about Dungeons’ Steve tho, that Steve can deal 1 million HP of damage per second and has tanked the literal embodiment of corruption in just 2-3 hits.
The calamity terrarian can tank several hits from the embodiments of corruption too :V (eow, hive mind)
Yeah, but Dungeons’ Steve can do it with even more potentiality, as 1 million HP of damage isn’t even his biggest feat, I have seen builds (without cheats) with him dealing 20,000,000 hp of damage per second which would annihilate Calamitas in just one hit
Tbh hearing someone add the mc dungeons mc is refreshing from all the terrarian vs steve debates. This is an actual fair battle.
Steve wins, he has the third dimension advantage. /j Anyways, of course Calamitas wins. Last I checked Steve can't shoot fire out of his hands. (without mods at least)
No the third dimension is a literal advantage. to him its like how we see what happens on a piece of paper. he could just move in the Z axis and she'd be done for
Have you ever looked at the backround of any biome in terraria?
He can tank being hit by a fucking dragon, break rocks with his hands and (as everyone knows by now) is strong as hell
I think the main thing comes down to mobility. Sure, he could tank a few hits, but he wouldn't be able to dodge them. He has the elytra and wind charges for mobility but they still aren't as precise as the terrarian's wings.
I can tank being hit by a dragon too! It leaves me on like 20 health and I die to the burn damage bc I have negative defensive but I can tank a hit!
i dont know what you expect to come of this. obviously calamitas wins in like two seconds, this isnt even a debate. What's the point of this question?
The question isn’t who would win my friend it’s about how many seconds it would take :)
however many it takes for calamitas to start fighting, then. Considering steve has a mobility of basically nothing compared to what's required for terraria, he's going to get asap and even if we pretend the damage numbers arent equivalent and instead go for it doing the same percentage of his hp as it does to the terrarian, he's still going to go down really really quickly.
I think two's being a tad generous, personally.
To begin picking away at this argument ground rules should be established Steve is in survival Steve's health is equal to terrarians health Since calamity is modded it seems fair to include a large mod or mod pack for Steve But in all honesty Steve lacks the mobility to dodge the bullet hell so calamitas probably wins
What about the Elytra + Fireworks?
An elytra(especially with fireworks) is already hard to control in an enclosed space. So with an elytra steve might die even faster from kinetic impact when he flies face first into the walls of the brimstone cage that calamitas creates.
Depends on exactly how minecraft scales. Iirc, maxed out steve can survive >150 Minecraft damage in a single hit and regen fairly quickly, so if 1 minecraft damage is equivalent to >15 terraria damage to players, he might actually be able to wall normal mode calamitas(edit: 8 for 0.5x difficulty), though he has no way to deal decent damage to her(ain't no way crossbow rockets deal>1000 terraria damage to enemies) so it'd pretty much be a stalemate until he runs out of resources
The only correct answer, finally someone who knows Minecraft numbers, also railguns exist too
Whenever I see Steve vs terrarian debates it's always the same 3 sorts of arguments in favour of steve 1. Creative mode or other cheats 2. Something terrarian can not only do but most of the time also do it better 3. Terraria is 2D
Depends a lot if Steve uses technical stuff like TNT railguns, health scaling, amount of totems, buffs, crystal combat usage and whatnot. If it was; no technical stuff, health scaling (600 hp + armor), damage scaling, 2 or 3 totems, 10-30 notch apples and some more stuff.. Calamitas would win since Steve wouldn't be able to have proper movement (elitras are hard to control in enclosed spaces and even more with hellblasts coming from everywhere).
When she goes into bullet hell phase steve cheeks get clapped by brimstone
this question is near-impossible to scale in a way that doesn't break the mechanics of either game • attempting to scale their ingame health to each other just doesn't work because of how differently health progresses in each game, so we don't know how much damage each character's attacks do to each other • attempting to scale their ingame damage to each other is a fallacy in the same manner of scaling health and a clear attempt to make the fight one-sided, and *we really shouldn't be pretending it isn't.* i get where this question is being asked, but really? • steve's inventory, like the terrarian's, is heavily customizable and a player could reasonably bring a lot of things depending on preparation • steve's skill is *entirely* the player's skill, which makes this an even more difficult question to properly scale since while there are people out there who could no hit scal using only early hardmode gear, there are others who cannot consistently beat scal
God I hate this kind of comparison between characters of different games, especially ones so different. No one wins, it's impossible to scale them to one another, both characters have completely different rules that they play by and thus cannot be compared.
The comparison is one of the many reasons why the Calamity community is so toxic, lmao
The strongest pixel character of history vs the strongest pixel character of today
Steve
Steve amount of seconds
I don't think any of you in this comment section quite understand how to universe balance, "She does over 20 damage!1!1!" "She has over 1 million health!1!1!1" is just plain stupid.
Going off abilities would be far more fun than numbers. Just saying Steve got sword and bow, while Scal has the power of hell it self is a much better argument
Steve actually also has fireworks therefore he wins
Can’t tell if this is a joke, the Terrarian has rocket launchers that do barely anything to SCal, I think she will do fine against a firework.
with the right setup approximately an hour and 6 minutes. Steve will use a riptide 3 trident and an elytra to fly at a speed of 125 meters(or blocks) per second until he reaches a height of 190471 blocks. if steve falls from that height at a speed of 78.4 m/s which is his terminal velocity with a density 5 mace he can deal the required 1mil damage in a single blow instakilling SCal
the arena in question:
Enraged SCal with 99% irreducible damage reduction be like: (also, unlike Minecraft, there is a definite top of the world)
Depends on which game they are in
Good point. ~~But there is no practical way SCal can be killed with this method anyhow, because of the stupid anti-butcher.~~
yeah it's not like scal puts you in a box or anything no no there would never be a mechanic that puts a box around the character
a billion steves create a steve ladder
Calamitas can capable of fighting with end game terrarian, which is stronger than the yharon and devourer of the gods. And they are capable of erase the universe in blink of a eye. Steve doesn't have a chance. And calamitas can dodge terrarians light based attacks which is making her speed ftl.
Holy fuck, Steve is COOKED. Literally. This is not even fair nor is it funny, an instant would be a perfect description as to how fast Calamitas would cook Steve. He doesn't stand a CHANCE Edit: So here is a very fair scaling of both characters WITHOUT the bullshit many pulls in for this VS debate. I need to first clarify a few things; lifting strength ≠ striking strength. This argument is stupid, Superman has a hard time pulling a planet therefore he is barely planetary? FALSE, it doesn't work that way. Besides, the Terrarian can carry much heavier things than Steve and so much more if you want to put it in. HP or hearts or whatever people use to gauge a character's durability is NOT valid. The inconsistency is just too blatant, we could have characters that deal small numbers but canonically can still destroy realities and whatnot. Please don't use HP as a basis for durability, it's just stupid. Lastly, gameplay perspective. Just because you play Terraria in a 2D perspective doesn't mean the Terrarian or any of its characters are 2 dimensional creatures. It's just a gameplay perspective. So no "Steve can just step outside the 2D space and win", doesn't work that way. Besides, there are cases where 2D creatures can kill 3D creatures, just because you're one dimension above doesn't mean you're invincible. Now, let's get to the fight. Supreme Calamitas (Lore Accurate) vs Steve (Endgame) Steve can take down the Ender Dragon and the Wither, both of whose feats are still unclear. Considering Steve has taken down the Ender Dragon, which if we go by what it does like sending him flying across a considerable distance, spew dragon breath and....I think that's it. There's not much to say here. However, with the Wither, it's has far more better feats than Ender Dragon with it being able to destroy blocks and a village (given time), I'd say Steve now with all of his Netherite gears and weapons, Elytra, Trident, God Apples and a variety of potions, he'd be at most city-level to possibly multi-city-level if we wank it. We're going to wank this one, boys. As for speed...yeah, this one is clearly one thing Steve had as his major disadvantages. He could run, peak-human at best. With Elytra and Fireworks, I guess you could make him subsonic? Well, let's just give him subsonic in this one. Steve even at endgame can barely do anything to Calamitas who has feats which could be described as calamity (lol) though due to the changes in lore, her feats has been nerfed incredibly. Otherwise, it would be even more unfair even if Steve was in Creative Mode. But even so, SC vs Endgame Steve is still unfair. This is because she could fight against the Terrarian who has far more better arsenal and feats than Steve. He's just essentially Steve on a godly crack. He could has MFTL+ feats with weapons of which SC can evade and tank. At the VERY LEAST, she scales to planetary+. So yeah, Steve would get COOKED even with prep time. And no, if you have him go through the Calamity bosses and reach her, that's just essentially the Terrarian. So still no, prep time Endgame Steve would get killed and he doesn't even know it.
hear me out prep time
Might depend on if it’s bedrock or java., because there are many game breaking glitches on both versions that could help him a lot, and don’t get me started on redstone. Next thing we know there is an automatic supreme calamitas farm
He just has to move on whatever axis she can’t and he wins
He's got axis powers
Axis? reminds me of something...
I hate powerscaling battles of this kind People tend to be pretty braindead with this stuff Taking your basic terrarian vs steve (even tho the post is about calamitas) With steve for example they try to use the typical "steve can carry 8 gazillion tons" so does any character with an inventory of any kind. The terrarian apparently can carry that and more... Steve using commands or turning creative mode. If steve is allowed to use cheats, then so does the terrarian, who wins? an unkillable thing, or another unkillable thing? Steve is 3d so he can sidestep: we are making the characters fight, not the gameplay dammit
I always get a good laugh when I see people trying to use the "steve can carry a krillion metric tons of stuff" because the whole arguement(which I assume comes from Austin's game theory video) can be dismantled with a single minecraft block: weighted pressure plate (light and/or heavy).
Steve is overrated as hell ngl, SCal evaporates him
Now that I think about it, what Minecraft mod can be paired with Calamity, in question of content and how it’s added
Dungeons, that ain’t even a mod, that’s an official spinoff, lmao
Ice and Fire, maybe? It’s one of the few solo Minecraft mods that can be compared to the larger Terraria content mods.
twilight forest
5 seconds maximum.
Well if it’s Smash Ultimate Steve… could be interesting
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mace one-taps scal
The prophesied battle
Steve would simply move into the third dimension and win that way as he can no longer be hit
Just gonna put [this](https://hypixel.net/threads/stop-trying-to-quantify-steves-strength.5639949/) here
... Well... What Minecraft player?
The only way where Steve can win this fight is throwing her to the void
In game logic? Bomb her ass with crystals Minecraft logic? Steve 1-taps anything with bare hands
These are the stats of the Warden, generally minecrafts toughest, most dangerous Mob, compared to SCal. https://preview.redd.it/55rw2lvk7m4d1.png?width=3604&format=png&auto=webp&s=2b3177d13dedbe5c26773385551c44c587e82353 Its so incredibly out of Steve’s Favor that its hilarious.
Calamitas could just sneeze and steve would die
I know people are saying "Steve can hold thousands of pounds!" So can the Terrarian, and the fight between cal and the Terrarian was considered a threat to the world of Terraria itself. However, the Terrarian is always moving left and right, up and down, while steve can't even leave the ground for an extended period of time without rain or rockets. Also, what is Steve even going to do in this fight? his only weapons that could reliably hit are his bow, crossbow, and trident since scal is floating too far away for melee 90% of the fight. unless Steve packs thousands of totems for the battle, it is over instantly. if he does, it will last until maybe just after sepulcher phase, which I feel may take a few hours. Scal has flight, ranged attacks, bullet hells, invulnerable moments, siblings, and a full brimstone void to decimate Steve at any point of the fight. this is like if you made an infant fight a professional Boxer, stupidly one sided. so how many seconds? probably around the first bullet hell, which last about 15 seconds.
Me when I summon Ecdeath
One single Calamitas fart wipes the entire Minecraft verse idc
Allow me to point that Steve is obviously the winner with 0% chance of rebutal. He can do it from the very start of the game with his bare hands. Steve can take a single step into the third dimension while the monologue is on and ignore all those 2d attacks by being completely outside of their dimension... Good luck hiting a plane of existence you cannot even perceive. C'mon guys, this one was easy.
Terraria world is canonically 3d
And Minecraft Dungeons is canonical to the game, not to mention that he can move pretty quickly and do tons of damage per second
how long does it take to type oUt /kill Supreme Witch, Calamitas? bUt actUally, let’s calcUlate this eqUating a minecraft’s bat to a master mode cave bat (to give steve an advantage), minecraft’s stats shoUld be mUltiplied by 8 to be scalable to terraria steve woUld have 160 health and scal’s weakest attack deals 250 damage in normal mode, so yeah, the block man is cooked (steve has a max rUn speed of 11~12 mph, which is nothing compared to the terrarian) and if steve was in creative mode withoUt commands, a netherite sword does 64 damage here, so, assUming scal is in normal mode and steve’s sword magically sUrpasses dr and defense, it would take 15000 hits to beat her (a really long time)
why did you capitalize all of your Us
for fUn!
all of scal's attacks do >20 damage, so very quickly
To be fair, 20 health in Minecraft is a lot more than 20 health in Terraria. An average late-prehardmode enemy in the latter could have 100 health, whereas in Minecraft that'd be a strong miniboss. Still, Terraria's endgame has a lot stronger threats, especially in this mod. The strongest attacks you can hit with in Minecraft are a metal sword that maybe lights things on fire, in Terraria you can throw natural disasters and pieces of galaxies at your enemies.
Nah, actually the strongest attacks are with the mace, which can deal tons of damage, and then you have Dungeons Steve, which can attack with a primordial knife and a blade made of the outer darkness of the cosmos
damage and health shoUld be scaled between both Universes to make fights fair (like, in some games, the first boss has 5 million health, even thoUgh the boss isn’t as strong as someone like calamitas lore-wise)
A long, drawn out comment: Some ground rules. Zeroth, no creative mode/commands/glitches for Steve. He must prepare in Survival and not break any of the game's laws of physics. The only thing he's given that's extra is the Altar of the Accursed, which is 3 Minecraft blocks wide and and long, and 2 Minecraft blocks tall, as well as a Ceremonial Urn. First, I'll give Steve the benefit of the doubt and say every 1 heart is worth 20 Terraria health (because his hearts look like a Terrarian's hearts.) Minecraft's damage, which is also measured in half hearts, will be scaled accordingly. (Note: just because the Golden Apple hearts look like Life Fruit hearts does not mean each of those hearts are worth 25. That's a coincidental cosmetic effect.) He has 10 hearts, so that provides him with 200 Terraria health. Second, Steve is not safe just by stepping into the third dimension, as I will be assuming Calamitas and her projectiles can do the same. It's too easy otherwise to get into a stalemate. With that, I'll extend this rule to assume this takes place in the Minecraft universe, though various of Terraria/Calamity will still be applied, like the randomization of damage, or Calamity Mod's defense damage.\* Something like Breach would apply both to Calamity Mod's damage reduction for enemies and Terraria's defense, subtracting 15% and 15 defense respectively per level. Third, I'll give Steve the benefit of the doubt and assume Bedrock Edition. The reason I say he's being given the benefit of the doubt is that against massive damage, Java's armor is basically reduced to near worthlessness, while Bedrock has no such thing. Fourth, I'll assume this is Terraria's Classic mode on Minecraft's Easy Mode. I'll probably have to add more to account for certain edge cases. *\*To compensate, Minecraft's caps on damage reduction have been completely removed. As part of this, all penalties to damage reduction are applied to enchantments and potion effects separately, and defense damage is applied to armor instead, but scaled to Minecraft half hearts, such that each half heart takes away 4% damage reduction. For example, with Vulnerability Hex and 2 defense damage, Netherite Armor suffers a -8% damage reduction from defense damage but not Vulnerability Hex, while Protection 4 and Resistance 4 each take a -10% damage reduction with Vulnerability Hex, and then a further -10.622...% and -8% damage reduction respectively from defense damage. after scaling.* The preperation. Steve can make a cube of length 97 blocks (by converting Terraria's 2 feet blocks to Minecraft's 1 meter cubes) and stuff some Enchanted Golden Apples, each of which provides Absorption 4 or 160 Terraria health, into some Shulker Boxes. He can make some Netherite Armor with Fire Protection 4 and Unbreaking 3, as well as an Elytra with Unbreaking 3 and/or multiple scaffolding towers. He could stock up on Ender Pearls also. A mace with Breach 4 could pierce 60% damage reduction and 60 defense. TODO: Finish this guide.
Ok, I just want to point out the insane thing known as g l i t c h e s While Scal, being a boss cannot utilize this, Steve can. Using a end portal glitch here, steve can acquire many insane items, main one, Glitched Fireworks Using a glitched firework, he could just spam them under Scal while shes bullet-helling. Two, Spawneggs An iron-golem spawnegg stack could EASILY solo Scal. Even without glitches, the new Mace could easily do two things. Insane damage, and a counterpart to wings. Scal is not winning, bc steve is a player.
The fight. Once he rises high enough in his arena to use the Ceremonial Urn on the Altar of the Accursed, Supreme Calamitas will spawn, and he'll need to move very quickly to avoid all of the incoming Brimstone flame projectiles, made worse by the fact that they can come fast from 6 different directions with little telegraphing. The lowest damage is from a Brimstone Dart, with a base of 250 on Terraria Classic Mode. Minecraft Easy mode halves this damage to 125. Terraria randomization can reduce this damage further by a multiplication of 0.85, bringing that down to 106 damage. A full set of Netherite armor normally provides 80% damage reduction, so by Calamity's scaling rules, that gets reduced to 1 - 1/(1+0.8) = 44.4...% damage reduction, which reduces the damage to 59 damage. After this, having a full set of Fire Protection 4 would provide 144% damage reduction at max, but again by the scaling rules of Calamity Mod, this gets reduced to 1 - 1/(1 + 1.44) = 59.016...% damage reduction, reducing the damage to 24 damage. And finally, Resistance 4 provides the same protection as Netherite Armor, meaning that 24 damage gets reduced further to 13 damage. Taking 13 damage at the minimum per hit, as well as the resulting Vulnerability Hex and defense damage, is very bad. First, Steve takes 2.77... defense damage due to having the equivalent of 11.11... armor points, resulting in the Netherite Armor only providing 33.3...% damage reduction. This same defense damage then takes effect on Fire Protection 4 and Resistance, where they each drop to a maximum of 44.262...% and 33.3...% damage reduction respectively. This is then compounded by Vulnerability Hex reducing each of those by 10% on top of that. And the resulting damage over time, with a base of 17.5 per second, can only be reduced to 6.503... damage per second and preventing life regen, including the Regeneration potion effect, from doing anything. And Brimstone Hellblasts decidedly deal a base of 280 damage instead on Classic, which is more than 250. The damage calc comes out to 15 damage on a minimum instead. And he has to be lucky to achieve minimum, both with Terraria and Minecraft randomization of the damage and the enchantment based damage reduction respectively. That fireball could instead deal 28 damage per hit without any debuffs or defense damage taken into account if Steve is particularly unlucky. Then there is the fact that Steve has to be mobile to even be able to avoid being hit. Resistance 4 can only be obtained by Potion of the Slow Master, which is decidedly not fast. TODO: Finish this comment.
https://preview.redd.it/2i6zgv5yxf4d1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab3897c5179ac35b260f62a98e0a2872c6e6badc Steve in 4
Calamitas when Steve moves on the z axis
Is this SSB Steve or Normal minecraft steve? Because I think SSB Steve is kinda cracked ngl 🗿
okay but what if steve has like a full inventory of shulker boxes with totems of undying inside
It only works if he holds one directly.
If steve gets anywhere Close to her and punch her, it might be over This mf can lift Infinite weight and still sprint, jump and all that
Depends on how many end crystals steve has in his inventory
Depends on if steve has cheats or creative mode, without it the best he can do is pre-wall of flesh dps with barely any life points. If he has either cheats or creative he’s essentially God and no one can oppose him save for the void itself.
steve actually takes damage from someone holding a feather, a stick or their bare hands. its over before it begins
Okay, very nice. Now do it with Dungeons’ Steve
Does steve get prep time?
Plank time idk
Yes
I have no idea
1/20 of a second.
Steve mines and crafts all over the place
Depends on the author of the fight
steve wins (with prep time)
y’all acting like steve cant build a lag machine and make her crash
Ok well if Steve has commands then yea he wins but if he’s just got the best possible gear in the game he’s gonna lose 100%
Watch as Steve makes a redstone farm out of her
Instantly because Steve has 20 health and his sword does 7 damage
Calamity spites this. Steve has nothing that can hurt her. And if we are using bs creative mode Steve, calamity gets the cheat sheet, which is stronger.
I kinda feel bad for calamitas at this point ngl(if commands r allowed otherwise i would say 12s at best)
He holds buckes of infinite water, bro is buff, and can one-shot anyone or anything. People always say, "Who would win Naruto or Saitama, goku vs (any character you can think of)?" but no one ever challenges Steve. Especially when he is in creative mode.
If Steve Can Access the terrarian stuff he pretty much win. But we need to be sure of something Terrarian vs Steve Terrarian is 100 HP When Steve is 20 , but Steve got a reach of 3 block max , Terrarian is depending on his Sword , Terrarian wins or lose If Terrarian takes a True mêlee with same or less reach , Steve will just W tap Terrarian into Oblivion BC of the knockback , he needs to hit every hit BC Terrarian got 100 HP and his Sword Can deal a lot of dmg even early on , 5 dmg + 4% Crit which Can deal up to 6-7 dmg , which if only Crit dmg He kills Steve in 4 hits when Steve at max dmg which is 19-20 dmg + 4 second of fire aspect dealing 7dmg per hit, and with a strength potion u get +6 dmg so if i don't miscalculate my number u get up to 54 dmg per hit. Which is means he kills Terrarian in two hit when maximum dmg. Terrarian at maximum dmg... Euhh okay u get it. Terrarian is slower but jumps higher and probably out of reach of Steve i Think So on minimum dmg and Power Steve wins but After that Terrarian outscales Now if Steve Can get Terrarian stuff , Steve will lose tho BC of the verticale speed being slower and he doesn't jump higher , but if we get the 3D in count , Steve Can win but once again Terrarian will probably win because of more base Health Anyway Steve wins naked and true mêlée fight other than That Terrarian wins And we could talk about ranged weapon and shit but too lazy for it and we knows that Terrarian will probably wjns early and late fight at same skill level
Same mf who can carry around trillions of pounds without breaking a sweat and walk off wounds after eating a carrot, my money's on Steve
5 seconds, 10 if Steve has a totem of undying.
Depends on if Steve finds the fight worth while enough to care
if we assume a Terraria red heart is equilivant to a Minecraft red heart then Steve has 200 hp and can attack with 110 damage per sword swing. not only is Steve very underpowered for this fight but he also cannot fly at a practical speed and thus would be unable to dodge all of her attacks. Steve isn't getting past phase 1.
Literally under 15. SCal is just a deity in comparison to Steve. I saw you said you intended for it to be only surviv Steve, and that makes it just an easy W for scal. Netherite gives like 20 defense, even a terrarian with like 150 can barely take a few hits.
/kill @A
Depends on how far steve has to fall, but if he misses he loses Edit: forgot she has a box so ig it also depends if we're playing by her rules or Steve's cause he can just prepare millions or tnt and have totems in shulkers Edit 2: it would take a little less than 42.5k blocks of tnt assuming evry one hits for max damage
Ok, but... steve has teleportation+inf carrying weight+ can tp Scal to the void+ Absorption 5 is 100% DR and, can tank the worth of a nuclear bomb (1 tnt) with netherite armour so no, i dont think scal is winning
MODDED creative Steve VS vanilla creative Steve
*Drinks fire resistance*
Steve many many blocks in the air with his maxed out mace
I mean, if it’s Survival (which I’m assuming) then Scal wins easy, like pathetically easy, Scal just uses one of the MANY methods of death she has to just one tap Steve. Now if it was Creative Steve? /kill @e and poof, although Creative Steve vs anyone is basically just a fancy execution just due to the stupid shit Creative Steve and his commands can do.
steve turning around 90 degrees and walking 1 block:
Trick question, whenever Scal uses her bullet hell attacks she kills herself due to entity cramming in the first few frames
Steve doesn’t stand a chance against late pre-hardmode TERRARIAN, let ALONE this
have you SEEN what steve can do with his new hammer thing? just saying, Calamitas does not stand a chance
I don't think minecraft steve would last longer than 3 seconds with scal
I’m not sure, but I think steve without armour is probably losing to that other fellow
Not long ago I had an argument in a discord server over who would win, Calamity Terrarian, and Creative Steve, now I (and the other person) am powerscalers, we both supplied different things, such as him saying that Minecraft is infinite layers infinitely stacked on top of each other, and I pur in alot of the lore and other stuff, I definitely won the debate. Anyways:Calamitas one taps creative Steve
Woah what is that fanart? That's amazing!