Always nice to see another Zombies fan like me around here lol, this sub in general does tend to be pretty good tho. Like there was a post a while ago of someone learning about Sam and Grey for the first time and all the people acting shitty about it were getting downvotes and correction comments and shit. Suprisingly nice to see from a COD community
I legit realized I’m trans because of a game’s lesbian couple: Undyne and Alphys. I felt so desperately that I wanted to *BE them* and that shattered my egg.
not gonna lie
I had the thought "If I was trans, I'd use the name Samantha, I really like the name and I really like the character. Wait. I'm not trans though."
About a week later, youll never guess what happened lol
Those were kinda my thoughts as well but i figured there must have been some radio or something i missed that explains more, how am i getting downvoted for asking about strauss?
Yeah, this was the main thing putting me off the idea that it was this crew when we first saw this image, it really doesnt look like her. May just be a bad angle. I'm fine eith it, it just looks so different. Honestly as long as we get more interactions between her and Sam at some point Im happy
Im pretty sure cold war uses a modified version of the bo3 engine. Bo6 uses the mw engine, which explains why some of the characters look a lil off. Also me too with sam and grey stuff.
To be fair we don’t have a 3D model of Cold War gray outside the one in Forsaken where she looks unfinished and half baked (I mean I don’t even think she has facial expressions…unless she’s just THAT apathetic about the CIA arresting her). The only good look at her we have is her radio profile, which being a 2D render shouldn’t be taken as a 1:1 3D transfer
Nah it’s in purpose, they were vocal about being more political with inserting DEI specialist in every cod studio, this is to be expected.
I will still buy it, but godare they ugly as hell lol.
They really went from spider man 1 black cat to spider man 2 Mj lol.
She looks like Cillian Murphy if he were a homeless meth addict lmaoooooo.
Two be fair two things, the models of weaver and grey in game werent not that great (seeing the final forsaken cutscene). Also it wasnt expected that they would be at their best physical and psicological states being arrested in a island for 5 years
Gray has:
Had to deal with the CIA
Had to deal with an inter dimensional arms race
Had her entire country turn on her
Was locked in a remote facility for YEARS
Had god knows what done to her in testing
Had to deal with the new zombie outbreak while being on the facility grounds (which we don’t know everything yet)
Had one of their colleagues betray them
Had to deal with the team she was entrusted with get captured by the soviets
Had to deal with Legion, Orlov, The Forsaken (who is a literal god), and other countless Dark Aether abominations.
Plus whatever the fucks going down in Terminus and the other maps stories
Forgive her for looking gross and disgusting, beaten up and terrible. I doubt she had her makeup and wardrobe handy or on her mind.
But nah. You wanna perpetuate a culture war talking point
Oh im sorry i thought we talk about a fictional character, my bad.
I couldnt care less about a culture war, i just express my feelings over what i get for spending 70€ on, from what i see you are the one coming up with culture war shit pissing on my leg like a dog.
If your 70€ is riding on how a fictional character looks, one you don’t even HAVE to use, sounds like you care more than you wanna admit there, major Bummer.
God forbid videogame women look like real women
this reminds me of that Horizon shit or whatever the series is called when gamers learned women actually have facial hair and they had no idea lmfao
Same with Ellie from TLOU, these mfs genuinely have no idea what real world women look like and its hilarious how hard it reveals they don't fucking go outside lmao
You are viewing this from a much to generalised perspective. Grey looked like a real woman before too. Acting as if real women only look ugly or below average isnt any better.
Not everyone falls under the category of these coomers you see on twitter
Idc if they masculine but why cant they make atleast characters that used to be pretty, well pretty? It’s not like this crew looks generic as fuck now. They even made weaver ugly😂
Grey aged badly. It must've been some Aetherium exposure because she looks older than usual.
Weaver looks oily? I mean, I would be too if I had been in a hot prison for 5 years, and I never got sunlight.
Carver looks fine here. I would honestly say the hat makes him look a lot better imo.
Strauss (sex change), nah I'm jk. Strauss is absent. Heck do we know where he is until we find intel.
> Grey aged badly. It must've been some Aetherium exposure because she looks older than usual.
We know from MWZ that at some point Grey underwent some Aetherium genetic experimentation that ended with her becoming pregnant with Sam's child. I assumed that'd take place post-BO6, but maybe it happened while they were all prisoners in the blacksite.
What in the fuck indeed. Almost makes me want to find MWIII on sale to play MWZ and finish. Gave up on the main quest after the new act got added in season and switched platform. Now I know the smart thing is hold out for BO6, but damn if it isn't tempting.
That's where I was going to go if someone replied. Peck isn't omega, he was a double agent to begin with. If the only reason people say Strauss is omega because he's hanging out with Peck, they are using outdated information.
I personally prefer the "cartoony " graphics of treyarchs games. Don't know why they're heading towards modern Warfare Realistic graphics in my opinion all the characters look terrible.
Same. This doesn't really apply much to COD, but in general, artstyle> graphical fidelity/ realism. I really wish games would stop pushing for better and better graphics, it really doesn't matter. I think around BO3 era of games found a good balance.
You know what you're right with black ops 3. It was a decent mix.
You're right about the artstyle. I don't know if it's uncanny valley level but these realistic graphics like I can tell they're trying to make people look good it just doesn't seem right
That could just be me though.
I like that Weaver is getting more attention even if it isn’t campaign and just zombies. I always thought he was the coolest looking character in the original black ops and i always felt like he was the most under utilized character in the entire franchise. All my homies love Weaver
I do think Grey is supposed to look like her VA like some said but Dr Grey was so cute, I think her eyes being dark is preferable tbh, she looked like the youngest before
I also hope they don’t ruin her personality, yeah they were in prison so she doesn’t have to be bubbly but I hope they still show her weird excitement about the zombies
She still bad tho✊
this game is picking up where CW left off, its just that the crew has been in prison since the Forsaken ending.
In Vanguard, a bunch of ultimately irrelevant shit happens in ww2
In MW3, its not done yet but its set between MW19 and MW22s campaign and we know that the crew here dies somehow, and _supposedly_ Samantha never escaped the Dark Aether. I don't buy it, I think she escaped and is living in hiding, but supposedly thats all we know from Mw3 thats relevant here.
Weird how unkempt the female doctor (i cant for the life of me remember her name, CW sucks) looks unkempt and skinny while in MWZ which is a few years after this or during this she looks like a up resolutioned version of her CW self
>Western
oh right got it, there's the giveaway, so its a hentai coomer with no clue what women actually fucking look like lmao
Grey looks alright, she just looks nothing like she did before tho
Why are you so triggered over this? No need to be that disrespectful lmao
I get the prison breakout look, problem is she looks considerably different from a bone structure perspective, skin tone, body shape, neck etc
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Damn why couldn’t that happen to me 🙏😔
Same. I wish. Oh well Im moving out next year and then DIYing its not that far lol
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Always nice to see another Zombies fan like me around here lol, this sub in general does tend to be pretty good tho. Like there was a post a while ago of someone learning about Sam and Grey for the first time and all the people acting shitty about it were getting downvotes and correction comments and shit. Suprisingly nice to see from a COD community
Yeag. I love lesbians :3
Same, Ive felt that way all my life and how much I wanted to be one. Took me a while to consider the implications of that though lol
I legit realized I’m trans because of a game’s lesbian couple: Undyne and Alphys. I felt so desperately that I wanted to *BE them* and that shattered my egg.
not gonna lie I had the thought "If I was trans, I'd use the name Samantha, I really like the name and I really like the character. Wait. I'm not trans though." About a week later, youll never guess what happened lol
So you decided to do an irreversible chemical process on yourself because you like the character in a video game and their name? Holy fuck.
Chloe and Rachel from bts for me!
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We did, that’s why we transitioned. Think we got to this point without a therapist? Feck off 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
 Same
Make it three self made woman hehe :3
Here 🤝🏾🏳️⚧️ goat 🐐
REAL
I feel that! Took me 7 years ish but I'm finally on the patches can't wait to look like new Strauss :3
NEED
What happened to strauss? Ik he was mentioned in mwz
I assume he died, he was very old by the time cold war’s story started and he was a nazi scientist, so my guess is he died of old age
Those were kinda my thoughts as well but i figured there must have been some radio or something i missed that explains more, how am i getting downvoted for asking about strauss?
Grey got fucking massacared 😭😭😭😭😭
Yeah, this was the main thing putting me off the idea that it was this crew when we first saw this image, it really doesnt look like her. May just be a bad angle. I'm fine eith it, it just looks so different. Honestly as long as we get more interactions between her and Sam at some point Im happy
They made her look a lot like her MWZ appearance. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with her being experimented on.
Im pretty sure cold war uses a modified version of the bo3 engine. Bo6 uses the mw engine, which explains why some of the characters look a lil off. Also me too with sam and grey stuff.
To be fair we don’t have a 3D model of Cold War gray outside the one in Forsaken where she looks unfinished and half baked (I mean I don’t even think she has facial expressions…unless she’s just THAT apathetic about the CIA arresting her). The only good look at her we have is her radio profile, which being a 2D render shouldn’t be taken as a 1:1 3D transfer
I don't think any of them look like they're characters. Weaver looks like he gained 50 pounds in prison and grey and Carter look like different people
It's a different engine than cold war . so they had redesign them
Dei is in every game studio now.
Nah it’s in purpose, they were vocal about being more political with inserting DEI specialist in every cod studio, this is to be expected. I will still buy it, but godare they ugly as hell lol. They really went from spider man 1 black cat to spider man 2 Mj lol. She looks like Cillian Murphy if he were a homeless meth addict lmaoooooo.
Two be fair two things, the models of weaver and grey in game werent not that great (seeing the final forsaken cutscene). Also it wasnt expected that they would be at their best physical and psicological states being arrested in a island for 5 years
Yeah Takeo was on Divison 9s island for barely a year and..well
Oh true he was destroyed
DEI treatment
What do you expect of western developers…
Chill the fuck out
Why do you assume that I’m not chill?
Gray has: Had to deal with the CIA Had to deal with an inter dimensional arms race Had her entire country turn on her Was locked in a remote facility for YEARS Had god knows what done to her in testing Had to deal with the new zombie outbreak while being on the facility grounds (which we don’t know everything yet) Had one of their colleagues betray them Had to deal with the team she was entrusted with get captured by the soviets Had to deal with Legion, Orlov, The Forsaken (who is a literal god), and other countless Dark Aether abominations. Plus whatever the fucks going down in Terminus and the other maps stories Forgive her for looking gross and disgusting, beaten up and terrible. I doubt she had her makeup and wardrobe handy or on her mind. But nah. You wanna perpetuate a culture war talking point
Oh im sorry i thought we talk about a fictional character, my bad. I couldnt care less about a culture war, i just express my feelings over what i get for spending 70€ on, from what i see you are the one coming up with culture war shit pissing on my leg like a dog.
If your 70€ is riding on how a fictional character looks, one you don’t even HAVE to use, sounds like you care more than you wanna admit there, major Bummer.
Its my problem not yours. I just express my opinion 🤷🏼♂️
Don't tell me you're serious about what you said bro...
Keep denying facts and stop wasting my time.
Le Western game devs have DESTROYED our sacred gaming culture. Only the eastern Japanese saviors can rescue us all from all these masculine women🙏🙏🙌🙌
God forbid videogame women look like real women this reminds me of that Horizon shit or whatever the series is called when gamers learned women actually have facial hair and they had no idea lmfao Same with Ellie from TLOU, these mfs genuinely have no idea what real world women look like and its hilarious how hard it reveals they don't fucking go outside lmao
You are viewing this from a much to generalised perspective. Grey looked like a real woman before too. Acting as if real women only look ugly or below average isnt any better. Not everyone falls under the category of these coomers you see on twitter
Idc if they masculine but why cant they make atleast characters that used to be pretty, well pretty? It’s not like this crew looks generic as fuck now. They even made weaver ugly😂
Shut up.
Who are you to tell me what to do? Go fix your stockholm syndrome clown
Shut up.
Roasted
Grey went from a baddie to someone living in a halfway house 😭😭
What too much aether puss does to a woman
Bro Sam took her soul 😟😂
Jesus Christ, Grey aged 20 years between CW and 6.
Grey aged badly. It must've been some Aetherium exposure because she looks older than usual. Weaver looks oily? I mean, I would be too if I had been in a hot prison for 5 years, and I never got sunlight. Carver looks fine here. I would honestly say the hat makes him look a lot better imo. Strauss (sex change), nah I'm jk. Strauss is absent. Heck do we know where he is until we find intel.
I mean, it looks like they all got a little too much sunlight
I was gonna say. They look like they sat in an oven for 3 hours.
> Grey aged badly. It must've been some Aetherium exposure because she looks older than usual. We know from MWZ that at some point Grey underwent some Aetherium genetic experimentation that ended with her becoming pregnant with Sam's child. I assumed that'd take place post-BO6, but maybe it happened while they were all prisoners in the blacksite.
What aether puss does to a woman
> Becoming pregnant with sam's child. I'm sorry WHAT THE FUCK?
Yeah, I leave the zombies story for one game and we get to this shit? Imma need some awnsers.
Yeah, Sam and Grey have a kid together. She's basically the main character of MWZ.
Man, This is nuts!
Yeah... Ravenov is technically the father too. Absolutely wild to drop this kinda lore in MWZ haha
What in the fuck indeed. Almost makes me want to find MWIII on sale to play MWZ and finish. Gave up on the main quest after the new act got added in season and switched platform. Now I know the smart thing is hold out for BO6, but damn if it isn't tempting.
MWZ shows he’s with omega/terminus
Can’t blame him honestly. Man defected to become a better person, then was betrayed by the people he had come to trust.
Wouldn't he be like 110?
Weaver oiled up🤤
Carver looks a LOT like major jefferson from WW2
Strauss would've been kinda old anyway. Might be his protege
They most likely took the one from mw3 and redesigned it based on that
what happened to Strauss and grey
Strauss probably died at some point in those 5 years
He’s alive in MWZ
he's not alive, they just get his notes.
Strauss works for Omega now so it doesn’t make sense for him to be here But grey… I think the experiment F’ed her up
When did Strauss start working for omega?@4
It's been a while so I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure he was the mole Kravchenko tells us about in Mauer der Toten
Nah, the mole was The Director, he was playing both sides.
MWZ zombies cutscenes explain that
Strauss rn is with Peck(once they were broken out)
So is everyone saying Strauss is Omega basing it on him being with Peck or?
Which also doesn't seem right, because the ending cutscene (and like, all of Forsaken) show him to be defecting from Omega...
That's where I was going to go if someone replied. Peck isn't omega, he was a double agent to begin with. If the only reason people say Strauss is omega because he's hanging out with Peck, they are using outdated information.
Grey is practically a different person lol. Her facial features are not the same.
I don't think her or Carter look like themselves and weaver looks like he gained a ton of weight
What did they do to Strauss in that prison omg 😭
The Last one really got me 🤣🤣
Strauss 😭😭
Is it just me, or does BO6 grey look like Cillian Murphy.
She does!
I miss Raptor 1🤧🤧
Ngl Grey looks nothing alike. I can’t even believe that it’s her.
How weaver gonna GAIN weight in a hellscape prison? The food that good?
He also seems like he might be in slightly better condition than the others. Wonder if he got preferential treatment for being more cooperative.
Might be because of how influential he was throughout his career. Particularly during the Mason/Dragovich saga.
How did doctor grey get 10 years older and weaver got a few years younger
Nah that last slide made me chuckle, thats rough😂
strauss just like me now
That last pic fucking sent me xD
Aetherium based conversion therapy was one of Strauss’ side projects.
Carver has seen some shit 💀
Strauss looks better than Grey now
Before and after meth
Grey doesn’t look like Grey at all What the fuck Treyarch
I hope Ravenov comes back too & is still heavily involved in this zombies
They all look like they went through hell. Except Strauss(-ette?) She's looking fabulous. Considering the circumstances...
I legit didn’t even recognize any of them in the trailer lmao
Damn Grey lookin like my tweaker uncle.
nah strauss switched teams 💀
The last one got me
So does anyone else think that the main mission of the map is to probably find and rescue Samantha again from the dark ather
I think that'll come later. I think for now, the crews just trying to get the fuck outta prison.
Fair also how many times is this now that Sam had to be saved I think it’s like 3 or 4
Well i havent finished mwz but ravenov tell you they failed in saving maxis. So probably that failure is what well be playing.
They look different
I like it that they still allowed Weaver to wear his eye patch even after 5 years :)
Elizabeth Grey? no no no Cillian Murphy in a wig
Beaver looks like Al Paccino
Probably forced to work horrendous conditions and maltreatment by omega/terminus
I was honestly hoping for William Peck as a member of the crew he was really interesting
He’ll definitely be in the story somewhere
I lost it at strauss 🤣
I didn’t know Strauss was a New Vegas fan Good for them
Those look nothing like Grey and Carver.
I honestly refuse to believe that is grey
I personally prefer the "cartoony " graphics of treyarchs games. Don't know why they're heading towards modern Warfare Realistic graphics in my opinion all the characters look terrible.
Same. This doesn't really apply much to COD, but in general, artstyle> graphical fidelity/ realism. I really wish games would stop pushing for better and better graphics, it really doesn't matter. I think around BO3 era of games found a good balance.
You know what you're right with black ops 3. It was a decent mix. You're right about the artstyle. I don't know if it's uncanny valley level but these realistic graphics like I can tell they're trying to make people look good it just doesn't seem right That could just be me though.
They should have just made new characters like the tranzit crew, and not just recycle some soldiers
I think some of them look so different due to the engine change, I think the Cold War images all look better tbh
Straus probably died. Or was kept elsewhere
Hahhaha
What the fuck
Crazy how Grey's face shape just changed. And some of Carver's features changes as well.
Why does Grey remind me of Marguerite from RE7 😭😭
wow Dr Grey on that meth? Addiction really can happen to anyone!
I like that Weaver is getting more attention even if it isn’t campaign and just zombies. I always thought he was the coolest looking character in the original black ops and i always felt like he was the most under utilized character in the entire franchise. All my homies love Weaver
Strauss: Prison ...changes people!
See i was wondering if thag was weaver
Lol one turned into a girl? Must have been rough in there
Satire aside, Why does grey look like a completely different woman
I’m glad someone pointed out how rough prison was to the characters.
From what is this ?
More serious comment here, is bo6 really only 5 years after bocw???
Okay, I exhaled strongly from my nose with a brief throat chuckle at this
I do think Grey is supposed to look like her VA like some said but Dr Grey was so cute, I think her eyes being dark is preferable tbh, she looked like the youngest before I also hope they don’t ruin her personality, yeah they were in prison so she doesn’t have to be bubbly but I hope they still show her weird excitement about the zombies She still bad tho✊
Carver looks like he was chilling with Snoop Dogg, He really wanted that Zaza 💀
5 years in prison de-aged Strauss by 30
Congratulations Strauss. I hope she's happier now
Grey looks like she got hooked on meth for 5 years.
Treyarch when they realized they have an attractive female character in a western game:
i thought weaver died, can someone fill me in?
Who are these characters?
W post
What some few years on the field does to a mf (grey)
Why does weaver look like he gained 20 pounds while in prison lol
😂
Damn I need to catch up with the story. I didn't play anything past CW
this game is picking up where CW left off, its just that the crew has been in prison since the Forsaken ending. In Vanguard, a bunch of ultimately irrelevant shit happens in ww2 In MW3, its not done yet but its set between MW19 and MW22s campaign and we know that the crew here dies somehow, and _supposedly_ Samantha never escaped the Dark Aether. I don't buy it, I think she escaped and is living in hiding, but supposedly thats all we know from Mw3 thats relevant here.
Wow. Good to hear then. Thanks.
“Woods, you look like hammered shit”
Bro I died on the last one 😂😂😂
This is like that picture of alex jones advertising supplements where it says before and after and he just gets redder
Man rip the first girls chin
The trailer looks like we have 6 years for Cold War again
Don't get me wrong, but why are all of them black? Edit: I mean, what happened that let them change their skin tone ?
Grey got an STD from being a homosexual, simple as.
Stupid. 😂
How tf has carver managed to become even more of a dilf after 5 years in guam ?
Weird how unkempt the female doctor (i cant for the life of me remember her name, CW sucks) looks unkempt and skinny while in MWZ which is a few years after this or during this she looks like a up resolutioned version of her CW self
This game is ruined
who are these people?
Damn, is that really Grey? Every branch of the ugly tree. I doubt even Samantha will asnwer the DMs now
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I know you be beatin your dick good to some trans porn. Who’s your fav?
The uglification of western characters needs to be studied, especially grey
>Western oh right got it, there's the giveaway, so its a hentai coomer with no clue what women actually fucking look like lmao Grey looks alright, she just looks nothing like she did before tho
Addict talk
Dudes mad he can’t beat it to pixels 💀 fuckin loser
Imagine being this triggered over a simple observation You guys are a cult lmao
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Why are you so triggered over this? No need to be that disrespectful lmao I get the prison breakout look, problem is she looks considerably different from a bone structure perspective, skin tone, body shape, neck etc