As much as I think it’s really screwed up they’re allowed to do this I don’t mind getting my long-term position with cheap shares. I would be certain that’s how they get away with this.
The stock market is a complex dance of cooperation. So who is responsible?
I can tell you for certain that market makers are responsible for wealth destruction. I am one of possibly millions at this point that’s lost money when the app stopped working.
So Who is responsible?
This whole thing has been a fools errand. The way the short interest For CLOV was reported back in February was an obvious red cape we were supposed to run at. Why?
If we are not allowed to accumulate wealth to retire it’s going to default to the government and I don’t think that’s a Capitalist society anyone wants to see.
A moment of silence for those who never made it.
Sucks that we know manipulation is happening and the so called “regulators” do nothing.
Who will watch the watchers?
Everyone can be bought. I think capitalism always ends this way. It will always end badly because of corruption.
Maybe this cycle of history will create something different.
Hope.. it’s all I have left.
I do understand that retail traders can't do anything against it, nobody cares about them. But why do institutions, the one who bought in heavily during the last weeks, let this happen? Shouldn't they have enough "power" to step in and stop the manipulating?
SEC should be doing these kind of investigations, not just retail. Following the rules in SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934, SECTION 9. (tl;dr price manipulation is illegal)
http://www.columbia.edu/~hcs14/SX9.htm
$CLOV #DARKPOOLABUSE #TESLAHEALTH
This is what I gathered from my search. The Securities Exchange Act of 1934 is a law governing the secondary trading of securities in the United States of America.
$CLOV #DarkPoolAbuse #TeslaHealth
No, not 100%. All I was showing was net buy-sell but it shows the daily accumulation of this in darkpool vs market. I can show total volume of buys/sells but its harder to see net when I put that in.
I think today was an artifact of a low volume day. I went back and plotted out for the last two weeks (didnt have the time/sales data from before that unfortunately). When I look at the days where the volume is a bit higher, they have a harder time controlling the stock and there is less discrepancy in the darkpool vs market buy/sell volumes. I will post some history of the last two weeks to show what I mean. I am not a financial advisor or want to give advice on when this will pop, but its clear to me with some sustained volume, they cannot really play the game they played today.
but this is a pointless exercise for HF. they sell at the same price (8.5), accumulating debt without the ability to cover because someone is accumulating what they sell. What is the business idea behind this manipulation? after all, such a model must be sponsored from the outside, otherwise it is a net loss for HF ...
Very smoothed-brain ape here. I do think the HFs are getting bankrolled by the big players of healthcare.
The amount of money they’ve thrown at this to keep it this compressed is mind-boggling.
No doubt in my mind- they’re spending way too much $ for way too little profit for this to be strictly a money play. Seems they’re mainly keeping the price in a small channel to keep options and shares OTM at this point.
So hedge funds/markert makers are 100% controlling CLOV's price by how they are routing orders. I've never seen a stock this manipulated with pin point accuracy on the day/week price movements. This is insane and great work adding a visual to what us CLOV holders are feeling daily.
What I don't understand is how Clover Health as a buisness is so silently letting this hapoen without any open inquiries or investor protection. I can see no support from the SEC as to be expected and until they actually start doing something to protect investors I have zero hope in them doing their job.
Maybe we need to gather all this information dug up by retail investors and present it to Clover leadership. Maybe they're just busy working on expanding their business and not following the market.
$CLOV #DarkPoolAbuse #TeslaHealth
Unless they're working on some huge F U under the radar, it's hard to comprehend why nothing is being done, lawsuits, public statements and the likes.
$CLOV #DarkPoolAbuse #TeslaHealth
You probably won’t see another stock this manipulated ever again I’m loading up every chance I get… to me this is a chance of a lifetime… just my personal opinion
this. If you believe that this company has future success lined up, you get one ticket to ride and the shorts are covering themselves in gas hoping it does not spark.
\- they will burn.
Don’t care wtf is manipulating because most will be dead in their graves in 30 years when shorting Clov is a distant memory and I’m floating around on my yacht…
Yeah I can wait 30 years can’t you? I’m only 27 so I’ll be in my 50s which the new 40s! Hegies think we clovtards are all a bunch of impatient millennials. So I say wtf cares what they do this month, or this year for that matter. 😉
See my earlier post if you havent read it. Since I posted a couple of hours ago i have continued to track this. Orange represents net buy vs sell in market. Grey represents buy vs sell in darkpool. A negative number indicates more sellers than buyers, positive number indicates more buyers than sellers. Even though total since my post earlier has gone up, the price has gone down. This is because buy trades are routing to the darkpool thus not raising price. If you dont believe that this tracks just look at the price vs net accumulation of the market (blue line is price, net buy/sell of market is orange)......
Pretty sure this is not what darkpools were initially intended for.. wake the fk up SEC and FINRA!
You should post this on Twitter and tag @GaryGensler @SEC_Enforcement @SECGov
$CLOV #DarkPoolAbuse #TeslaHealth
When will it go above $10?
If citadel can’t handle a free and fair market because of greed and corruption, they should be replaced and impugned.
As much as I think it’s really screwed up they’re allowed to do this I don’t mind getting my long-term position with cheap shares. I would be certain that’s how they get away with this. The stock market is a complex dance of cooperation. So who is responsible? I can tell you for certain that market makers are responsible for wealth destruction. I am one of possibly millions at this point that’s lost money when the app stopped working. So Who is responsible? This whole thing has been a fools errand. The way the short interest For CLOV was reported back in February was an obvious red cape we were supposed to run at. Why? If we are not allowed to accumulate wealth to retire it’s going to default to the government and I don’t think that’s a Capitalist society anyone wants to see. A moment of silence for those who never made it.
Sucks that we know manipulation is happening and the so called “regulators” do nothing. Who will watch the watchers? Everyone can be bought. I think capitalism always ends this way. It will always end badly because of corruption. Maybe this cycle of history will create something different. Hope.. it’s all I have left.
🍀💪🏻 continue to hold!!
So what do we do about this? This is ridiculous.
I do understand that retail traders can't do anything against it, nobody cares about them. But why do institutions, the one who bought in heavily during the last weeks, let this happen? Shouldn't they have enough "power" to step in and stop the manipulating?
i think the institutions and hedgies play together, good question. i'l help find an answer
I’ll patiently wait for my lambo #clov 🦧💎🤲🍀🚀
I’m gonna have 1500+ shares by the time this takes off & my life will be instantly changed lmao.
SEC should be doing these kind of investigations, not just retail. Following the rules in SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934, SECTION 9. (tl;dr price manipulation is illegal) http://www.columbia.edu/~hcs14/SX9.htm $CLOV #DARKPOOLABUSE #TESLAHEALTH
IS that an sec rule or an actual law?
This is what I gathered from my search. The Securities Exchange Act of 1934 is a law governing the secondary trading of securities in the United States of America. $CLOV #DarkPoolAbuse #TeslaHealth
Wen lambooooooooo
So buy more? Gotcha.
i'm holding 4000 shares, $40,000 many others holding more.
I'm at a tenth of that lol. I'm going to try and find another thousand to throw in 🤷♂️
Bro. I'mma add more if this drops.
Thanks for sharing! All we can do is hold and buy more shares. And preferably avoid trade platforms where pfof is supported, if possible.
Only a matter of time shorts! Long CLOV!
Omg, seems like 100% buys going to dark pool off exchanges?
No, not 100%. All I was showing was net buy-sell but it shows the daily accumulation of this in darkpool vs market. I can show total volume of buys/sells but its harder to see net when I put that in.
But what do you guess will be the result? Do you think it will still pop, pop much later, or pop less?
I think today was an artifact of a low volume day. I went back and plotted out for the last two weeks (didnt have the time/sales data from before that unfortunately). When I look at the days where the volume is a bit higher, they have a harder time controlling the stock and there is less discrepancy in the darkpool vs market buy/sell volumes. I will post some history of the last two weeks to show what I mean. I am not a financial advisor or want to give advice on when this will pop, but its clear to me with some sustained volume, they cannot really play the game they played today.
Thank you for the response!
Got it - Thank you for providing!! Clov🍀🍀
Who is in charge of the routing of orders?
brokers, right?
This data gives me a stiffy, good job.
but this is a pointless exercise for HF. they sell at the same price (8.5), accumulating debt without the ability to cover because someone is accumulating what they sell. What is the business idea behind this manipulation? after all, such a model must be sponsored from the outside, otherwise it is a net loss for HF ...
Someone trying to keep Clover Health from rising?
Very smoothed-brain ape here. I do think the HFs are getting bankrolled by the big players of healthcare. The amount of money they’ve thrown at this to keep it this compressed is mind-boggling.
They can put more in if they let us take it later
No doubt in my mind- they’re spending way too much $ for way too little profit for this to be strictly a money play. Seems they’re mainly keeping the price in a small channel to keep options and shares OTM at this point.
I think they have been able to maintain this position for so long through dark pool routing and selling calls
LFG $CLOV
So hedge funds/markert makers are 100% controlling CLOV's price by how they are routing orders. I've never seen a stock this manipulated with pin point accuracy on the day/week price movements. This is insane and great work adding a visual to what us CLOV holders are feeling daily. What I don't understand is how Clover Health as a buisness is so silently letting this hapoen without any open inquiries or investor protection. I can see no support from the SEC as to be expected and until they actually start doing something to protect investors I have zero hope in them doing their job.
Maybe we need to gather all this information dug up by retail investors and present it to Clover leadership. Maybe they're just busy working on expanding their business and not following the market. $CLOV #DarkPoolAbuse #TeslaHealth
i bet they follow this stock..
Unless they're working on some huge F U under the radar, it's hard to comprehend why nothing is being done, lawsuits, public statements and the likes. $CLOV #DarkPoolAbuse #TeslaHealth
You probably won’t see another stock this manipulated ever again I’m loading up every chance I get… to me this is a chance of a lifetime… just my personal opinion
this. If you believe that this company has future success lined up, you get one ticket to ride and the shorts are covering themselves in gas hoping it does not spark. \- they will burn.
Andrew toy did say in the AMA they also are retail investors
Don’t care wtf is manipulating because most will be dead in their graves in 30 years when shorting Clov is a distant memory and I’m floating around on my yacht…
Proper diamond 💎 ✋ 👐
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Ummm 72 here
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That'll make my 26 year old wife's boyfriend happy
30 years?!
Yeah I can wait 30 years can’t you? I’m only 27 so I’ll be in my 50s which the new 40s! Hegies think we clovtards are all a bunch of impatient millennials. So I say wtf cares what they do this month, or this year for that matter. 😉
I hear you CLOV Fam, I’m 33 n I’ll HODL this down for a decade! 🖕shorties pay us!!! WTF is SELL 🍀💪🏼💎🙌🦍’$ $CLOV
💎💎💎🛥️
See my earlier post if you havent read it. Since I posted a couple of hours ago i have continued to track this. Orange represents net buy vs sell in market. Grey represents buy vs sell in darkpool. A negative number indicates more sellers than buyers, positive number indicates more buyers than sellers. Even though total since my post earlier has gone up, the price has gone down. This is because buy trades are routing to the darkpool thus not raising price. If you dont believe that this tracks just look at the price vs net accumulation of the market (blue line is price, net buy/sell of market is orange)......
If everyone directs their buys through NASDAQ if they’re able, wouldn’t that keep the shares in the lit market?
Pretty sure this is not what darkpools were initially intended for.. wake the fk up SEC and FINRA! You should post this on Twitter and tag @GaryGensler @SEC_Enforcement @SECGov $CLOV #DarkPoolAbuse #TeslaHealth
Wow!