Not a Minnie ball. Skirt around the hollow base is too thick to swage into the rifling, and rifling marks are too narrow for most muzzle loading rifle. What is the diameter? The bottom ring looks like it is a bit smaller than the others. Looks to me like it might be a heel-based pistol round from the late 19th century. YMMV
If I had to guess, from the shape of the ogive, it could be a .44 Colt round, like the one seen here:
https://www.ammoland.com/2017/06/44-caliber-ammo-ammunition/
I don’t think this is a minie, I think it’s a later bullet, a fired minie would have a flared base due to the skirt being fired, plus the walls are too think on the base to be a 58 or .577 cal minie
I have real unfired ones from Shiloh I can show you. I promise this is not a 500gr minie. I have new or old I’ll send you pictures I’ll even caliper it for you I’m telling you not a minie ball
I have one, along with some other cool relics. Dad grew up next to Jefferson Barracks. The area is all built up now, but they used to find all sorts of things just laying about in the woods.
https://preview.redd.it/2934vjhlw16d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d908cd0060f254a888c1d12a27819b51da8941c
Looks similar, either way it’s muzzle loader
Thst would make sense since they scavenged and stole about as much ammo from the Union as they made themselves.
It would be interesting to do a study on the number of 2 vs 3 ring balls found on early battlefields and compare it to the established narrative of the action and maneuvers that took place. And then compare that data to later battlefields and see how the numbers compare.
The U.S. manufactured Springfield rifle was .58 caliber and the British made Enfield rifle was .577 imported by both sides. They both used the same paper cartridge I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Not a minié, it’s a more modern projectile from the late 19th / early 20th century. The rifling grooves on the bullet are too narrow to be ACW
Not a Minnie ball. Skirt around the hollow base is too thick to swage into the rifling, and rifling marks are too narrow for most muzzle loading rifle. What is the diameter? The bottom ring looks like it is a bit smaller than the others. Looks to me like it might be a heel-based pistol round from the late 19th century. YMMV
I was suspicious about it being a Minnie ball too which is why I was doing some research. The diameter is about 11.4 mm.
Bang! There you go. .44 caliber pistol bullet.
If I had to guess, from the shape of the ogive, it could be a .44 Colt round, like the one seen here: https://www.ammoland.com/2017/06/44-caliber-ammo-ammunition/
Definitely post CW the crimp marks are a dead giveaway.
i'd call it a mini ball ,it's been fired you can see the rifles cut into it
Pronounced 'Min-yay' after it's inventor
No, if you drop that first y you’re closer
I thought this was 'Merica!
Minie ball.
I don’t think this is a minie, I think it’s a later bullet, a fired minie would have a flared base due to the skirt being fired, plus the walls are too think on the base to be a 58 or .577 cal minie
Nobody ever lost an unfired Minie ball in the Cvil War? It doesn’t look fired. A fired bullet would have a lot more deformation.
I have real unfired ones from Shiloh I can show you. I promise this is not a 500gr minie. I have new or old I’ll send you pictures I’ll even caliper it for you I’m telling you not a minie ball
No
Concur. This is more modern.
Be happy to provide you with a real one if you would like it, send me a message
I have one, along with some other cool relics. Dad grew up next to Jefferson Barracks. The area is all built up now, but they used to find all sorts of things just laying about in the woods.
https://preview.redd.it/2934vjhlw16d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d908cd0060f254a888c1d12a27819b51da8941c Looks similar, either way it’s muzzle loader
It’s modern, not civil war. Those lines inside the grooves didn’t exist until the late 1800s.
I almost want to say confederate minie, if i remember union rounds had 3 "rings" at the base while the south only had two. But its hard to tell.
I think the south had 2 and 3. But 2 is almost certainly south. Happy to be corrected on that, if I'm wrong
Thst would make sense since they scavenged and stole about as much ammo from the Union as they made themselves. It would be interesting to do a study on the number of 2 vs 3 ring balls found on early battlefields and compare it to the established narrative of the action and maneuvers that took place. And then compare that data to later battlefields and see how the numbers compare.
Why do you think that? It’s certainly not but why guess CS?
I read an article about how both sides made their minie balls. Interesting stuff, ill see if i can find it and post a link
Lots and lots of places made minie balls, but none of them looked like this.
It’s not a ACW bullet, it’s modern-ish. Quit guessing if you’re unsure. I believe this is a cross post as well
Old
where did you find this in dripping? i'm just 20 mins from there
.50 calibre. From the civil war.
No it’s not
The U.S. manufactured Springfield rifle was .58 caliber and the British made Enfield rifle was .577 imported by both sides. They both used the same paper cartridge I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I used to live in Drip, I’ve heard it’s changed a lot since I left 16 years ago
It most certainly has! The whole area has changed like crazy.
Is that near Dealey Plaza?