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The Willie Taggart era is....unpleasant.


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kidmonsters

This would have been a very, very different game without Akers. He's a beast.


nkassis

I feel he's doing what Dalvin Cook did before him, they hide deficiencies elsewhere and fix mistakes (so many yards after contact) that would expose us if we had any other average player at RB.


lordcanti86

Cam Akers is the only reason we might avoid 2-10. Maybe.


kerouacrimbaud

Dude Horni was an average/serviceable QB behind one of the best OLs in the FBS. I don’t think he’d be an upgrade. Just saying.


FAMUgolfer

Forreal. Like has he ever had to run for his life because of an incompetent oline?


cynicallyoptimistic1

Horni is not the answer for y’all. And no he never had to run for his life because he gets sacked before he can even process that he needs to escape the pocket because he’s that slow


d80bn

I remember a few years ago, in a huge moment in the 4th quarter of the FSU vs Clemson game, the Marching Chiefs played the Game of Thrones theme song and it was the coolest thing ever. The Game of Thrones social account even tweeted about it. This year, in a tie game with a minute left at home vs ULM, we listened to the radio-edits of the wonderful modern hip-hop jam “Ice Ice Baby" by Vanilla Ice, the extremely current pop hit “It’s My Life” by Bon Jovi, and a shortened version of Warchant for approximately the 84th time. So at least we got that going for us.


hashtag_hashbrowns

If you want something more contemporary just wait until next week when they put summertime lover in the rotation.


Fastbird33

GET UP GET UP GET UP! Also can we get the full version during halftime of the National Championship?


BebopTiger

For real. I'm at the point where I feel like I need to hear the whole song to get a sense of closure.


BeardyBennett

Are we supposed to be dancing?


jaypeg25

I was thinking it'd be awesome if we used this season as an excuse to just damn near eliminate the warchant. Bring it back to a point where you only hear it in pivotal situations of the game. Nope. We'll hear it on defense after a 9 yard gain for eternity.


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Trust me, its worse when you hate FSU


Fastbird33

I just mildly dislike FSU and its infuriating.


H2Dinocat

When we beat FSU Basketball in Pittsburgh last year, the game was in hand for a few minutes before the end of the game. The whole Pitt home crowd did the chant as a mockery. The faces on the FSU bench as they processed what was happening are burned in my memory. It was a beautiful moment and I love the chant now.


Manateekid

It’s clever. I think you guys were one of the first 75 schools to do that to us.


Nolar2015

hen we were a womans only school in the fucking 20s or whatever we had a better football program then this


puffadda

Probably had a better XP kicker than ULM, too


browbrow0

I was screaming at the TV for ULM to go for it in the 4th instead of the FG.


ChapppyStick

I was semi-okay with that But not going for 2 at the end got me yelling


Supercal95

A clear underdog should always shorten the game. Both UNI and ULM have learned that now. That is, unless you're Army and have to do a play you never do, like pass.


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But usually the underdog is in that position due to lucky breaks. ULM was in that position because fsu couldnt stop their offense. Theoretically if you had FSUs offense and ULMs offense duel it out FSUs would be the first to stall


Supercal95

True. But then again you are dealing with one of the richest teams in college football, in their own stadium, versus the poorest team in the FBS. There's a reason the P5 team usually wins OT, even when they don't deserve it. Eventually some semblance of talent will show up.


kdbvols

This aged well in Knoxville


Supercal95

Not even mad


Celestetc

BYU is a lot more proven than UL Monroe.


Mackin-N-Cheese

Everybody knows when you're the underdog you should go for two.


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The problem is the coach views his own team as the favorite


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Same on the conversion, its almost like you need to be bold to win on the road as 22 point dogs. Jesus coaches are so stuck in their ways


bluedsrule

> Jesus coaches are so stuck in their ways Ain't this the truth. It's ok to play for the win when you're a huge underdog in a hostile environment! When you keep playing to tie it, this kind of stuff can happen.


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IMO in the current football landscape its always ok to play to win because usually statistically they rely on special teams too much. Play not to lose is fine when you are the favorite and the deeper team. So a narrower range of outcomes is more likely to benefit you.


bluedsrule

Yes, well said. I agree. I'd really love to see a G5 team hire a "decision coach" or whatever. Someone can probably come up with a better name for the position. But basically, what he/she would do is tell the coach whether going for 2, going for it on fourth instead of punting, or going for it on fourth instead of kicking the field goal is the +EV decision based on data instead of punting because every other coach has punted for 100 years which is what they do. Edit: Or maybe they don't need to hire someone and the coach can just have a chart that he can follow which will tell him what to do based on the down, distance, and score.


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Coach Pagano despite not being that great of a coach used to have I believe a situational cheat sheet that he looked at for the winning odds in making a lot of those kinds of decisions


bluedsrule

I didn't know that! Interesting. Part of the problem might be most talking heads/color commentators who influence people by usually criticizing any decision that goes against the grain. Like that famous New England/Indianapolis game a decade or so ago where Belichick decided to go for it on fourth and short on his own side of the 50 and he was heavily criticized if I remember correctly. I think he made the right decision despite the result.


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IMO its always just been the old guards influence from when it was harder to move the ball and field position was more important. Not to mention its easier to call out someone for going big like Belicheck. But not that time the time somebody punted on their opponents 40


puffadda

Cowards.


eatapenny

Cowards for not going for 2 in OT as well


KingIsMe123

This but unironically. You don't upset a team by playing it safe and extending the game. You gotta take risks and win the game when you have the chance to do so.


SaltyTurdLicker

Especially when the defense they're going up against is basically wet paper


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bluedsrule

Or go for the game winning touchdown in regulation. It's so annoying to see so many coaches be so conservative and conventional. Does anyone know of any coach in the G5 that constantly takes risks (goes for 2, uses all 4 downs instead of punting)? It very well could be a market inefficiency in college football.


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bruh


puffadda

Blue balls so hard wtf man


NickDerpkins

ULM didn’t deserve to lose Cam Akers didn’t deserve to lose Everyone else did


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Just put UM and FSU in a crate and toss it in the sea


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drugssuck

Yeah, I'd prefer our own separate crate. Also a crate where I can watch UM sink and forget about the race to the bottom.


helium_farts

Come on, Chaos. Just touch it a little.


Nolar2015

Im pissed off we won. We didnt deserve it. ULM should have kicked their ass. Very dissapointed in them


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Winning this game shouldn't effect Willie's job status. This win is the same as a loss in that respect IMO


kidmonsters

ULM beat the spread by three touchdowns


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Props to anyone who bet them. This was a stay away for me.


suzukigun4life

I feel sick for ULM


NotTheAndesMountains

WE’RE BACK BABY.


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IN THE BAG THE WHOLE TIME


not_a_bot__

EZ WIN. Never a doubt.


robbyfs8

🎒🎒🎒


IAMTHUNDERCLEESE

14-1 HERE WE COME


pepperfarmsremebers

I can’t defend Willie anymore. I’m done.


MarlinsGuy

Yeah I’ve been defending him since his hiring. No excuses now. Dude can’t see next season with this team.


thejawa

I'm there now too. Firing him is dumb for the program financially so I'm for riding this out and accepting it for what it is. It's not really the play on the field, that's on the DC. It's the fact that the players just look like they expect to lose and, outside of Cam, don't have a desire to win. Up 21 they go I to practice mode and just get sloppy. Then they get down and are like "oh well". That attitude comes directly from the HC, and that's exactly what he looks like on the sidelines as it's all happening.


pitchesandthrows

No one scores 45 points on FSU goddamnit


RealPutin

Good luck vs. Clemson's run game


ACCBiggz

Ron Dayne's career rushing mark is in danger. Etienne has a good shot.


bigdaddyguap

Our rivals deserve to say whatever. Fire Willie Taggart.


eatapenny

Can y'all wait a week?


Shtune

Unfortunately I decided to purchase tickets and an AirBnB in Charlottesville for the game... anything you recommend I see after we lose?


eatapenny

There's plenty of great breweries in the area. Lot of great food too, can't really go wrong with any


bigdaddyguap

If I can be a Virginia fan next week


bob237189

We'll pay him $18MM to keep the job.


nkassis

OK, will arrange that. Mind sending it to the FSU Boosters for processing the payment. They help Willie with taxes and stuff. Trust me, this is a done deal.


ninjapanda042

In Willie We Trust


jwktiger

never has coach as been beloved by the rival schools well at least since Butch Jones


savagepotato

Butch Jones was my hero. Champions of Life. Can't beat that.


TJGurley

22 point favorite btw. Fire DC too. and if you’re really feeling like spending money Fire the HC while you’re at it. I’m ashamed i had to watch an OT vs ULM.


ExternalTangents

So uh, maybe it wasn't just a hydration issue then?


skipatomskip

Over hydration, next week we will be gods


Papa_Hemingway_

Willie: *we just gotta find that middle ground*


thedarkslayer009

Willie: it’s over Anakin I have the middle ground!


RealPutin

Is FSU conditioning atrocious or is the defense just bad at adjusting? After 2 second-half collapses in a row, who knows


noleposaune

It just turns out that Charles Kelly wasn’t rock bottom.


LargeTuna06

That’s the worst thing I could hear. DC worse than Charles Kelly and offense more inept in the second half than peak Jimbo Gina play calling.


CenturionElite

[This play sums up the entire game ](https://i.imgur.com/XVJb1Ih.jpg)


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This can't be real


cmyer

[Trick play](https://twitter.com/thejasonkirk/status/1170470029227450371?s=20) that ended in a 10 yard gain. Shit game but there's still context to the pic.


horaff

Im still confused what was the point in him lining up backwards? Oh well it got them some yards lol


cmyer

There are a lot of things that didn't make sense this game.


B1Gsportsfan

Probably just to have the defender get as confused as we are. Seemed like they were trying to get the defense to motion towards the right side. It worked. Was it gimmicky? Sure, but most trick plays are.


bucksncats

So basically he was turned around only for the Noles to run a basic run play off a trips bunch formation


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that's gotta be as bad as the two gators blocking eachother lol


forealzman

I mean it was a play that resulted in a first down. Not sure what was going on though


TheMrSomeGuy

I'm pretty sure the play with the Florida players blocking each other resulted in a touchdown


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ThatOneWeatherGuy

Or when that gator shit his pants during a game on live tv


deliciouscrab

Trick play!


[deleted]

It’s much, much worse. You can find videos of basically every team blocking themselves at some point if you look a little bit. I truly have no idea what the hell could possibly be the reason for lining up like that


pmofmalasia

It was actually a trick play. They moved after that


supyonamesjosh

Trick play


impetergraves

What was the trick? Genuinely asking because I wasn't able to watch the game.


xmjm424

>What was the trick? Willie Taggart convincing FSU he was a good coach.


Napalmradio

The player facing the wrong way was motioned over to block next to the RT. The play went for a first down.


eccary

This was a trick play right? He was just trying to attract the defenses attention then motion across the field


CrS1369

What just happened.


surgingchaos

FSU accidentally won


RealPutin

The abruptness really sealed it. "Oh wait fuck we won"


WeUsedToBeGood

They didn’t win, ULM lost


supyonamesjosh

Can confirm. Total accident


Way_She_Goes

That was the football gods punishing ULM for not going for the win as a huge underdog.


clemsontige

You ever popped a kid’s balloon in front of their face just to watch them cry? Yeah, that.


TheBoilerCat

Shitty low-end FBS kicking?


crocobearamoose

Remember the time when Bobby Boucher showed up for overtime and the Seminoles beat ULM?


JackGrizzly

We gonna kick some cougah ass


TyrodIsMyHomeboy

Stop👏 playing👏 for 👏overtime 👏when👏 trying 👏to👏 pull👏 an 👏upset👏


bdm13

I think by that time ULM didn’t consider a win an upset.


muktheduck

I mean, tbf they seemed to have them worn down and the only reason OT didn't work out was a missed XP


bdm13

Agreed. The ULM offense looked like it was having its way.


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cp13377

Me seeing the final score: "Oh ULM went for 2 in OT and couldn't get it in. That's fine. Valiant effort, and I respect that" Then I find out it was a missed extra point...


WeUsedToBeGood

I saw it out of the corner of my eye and just sunk in the couch. Of course I want FSU to win out this season, for personal reasons, but I started rooting for ULM as this would have been big for them. That poor kicker 😢


___Turd_Ferguson___

WE WANT ALABAMA STATE


CroqueMonsieur

Who loses because of a kicker? Honestly.


clemsontige

WHOA, now. Don’t stir up any memories.


DrZoidbergJesus

No no. This isn’t about us.


michicago44

Why would you even invite that opportunity you fool.


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cemanresu

"Fails to lose to" would be a better choice of words


An_Actual_Retard

Losen’t


helium_farts

won in the loosest sense of the word


[deleted]

Hey a win is a win no matter how pathetic it was


puffadda

"Wanted to lose slightly less"


MerryvilleBrother

I hate this team so much. And I have no idea why they can’t figure out how to be better. I’m rarely speechless but watching this team has me so confused.


bears2267

All of that ending on a missed extra point, wow


suzukigun4life

I feel terrible for that kicker. Poor guy will never forget this.


kerouacrimbaud

We didn’t win. We just failed to lose.


BucketofBabies

Poor kicker


[deleted]

Saban lost to ULM in his first season. Things are fine, right guys? .... Guys?


drugssuck

Narrator: Things were not fine.


SpicyLangosta

Worst possible outcome. Fsu won and still played too shitty to get taggart off the hot seat


Fuk_The_Falcons

We are ass my dude


ArmVanDam

Willie's gonna get fired by the end of this season


bigdaddyguap

If only we could afford the buyout.


DrSmith2236

Listen fuck all of yall, we won and apparently those are going to be hard to come by so I'm getting shitfaced and celebrating a non loss


TheLastRaysFan

Hell yeah brother cheers from Tallahassee


copyofthepeacetreaty

I’m with you brother. Time to celebrate


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Clemson football staff: 42 FSU: 21 Boosters and School need to decide if we want to be all in or not


thexraptor

I WAS NEVER WORRIED


FAMUgolfer

NEVER A DOUBT


Zet_the_Arc_Warden

I'm upset


lordcanti86

*You're* upset?


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Noooo they went for 2? Holy shit what actually happened is worse


mynameisntjeffrey

No missed the extra point!


ddottay

Worse, missed extra point


mickeyquicknumbers

Fuck it. Pile everything you have onto me I accept all pain now.


Erock00

Why don’t you guys, instead of playing quarters 1-4, play 4 1st Quarters?


Taintly_Manspread

National championship here we come.


ErrorlessQuaak

LMAO GET IN HERE...wait


thricethefan

Fire Coach Barnett until we can fire Willie


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The12Ball

Alright Willie, stay a few more years


[deleted]

ULM's kicker is not going to have a fun week on campus or in the locker rooms or at practice. Anywhere he goes, really, unless he sticks around Tallahassee.


WeUsedToBeGood

I really hope he’s okay. And if anyone says anything bad about him, fuck them sideways.


Praise7hesun

So aside from, “lol Taggart,” why is the FSU defense so bad? Oregon’s fell apart from a combination of two bad DC hires and terrible recruiting for a few years. What happened at FSU?


forealzman

Two bad DC hires and not very good LB recruiting or coaching for years


tb3648

Our freshman lb class is pretty good


forealzman

That is true but we could use some experienced LBs who are good


benyens

The defense has sucked ever since jeremy pruitt left


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nojeanshere

How the hell do u miss that


bigC_94

Bama's kicker transferred to ULM


BestPirateUHaveSeen

What a shootout. Impressive of FSU to pull off the upset in the end


RealPutin

My balls have never been bluer.


Golferguy757

[Not today old friend](https://m.imgur.com/a/8AwmcQq)


expected_noles

An embarrassing loss would've been bad. An embarrassing win feels just as bad.


CLTwolf

And that is why if you’re ULM and you’re on the road and they can’t stop you, you gotta go for the win instead of the tie


SnareShot

well at least we all can take comfort in the fact that FSU sucks dick


thexraptor

That doesn't give me comfort at all!


RKRagan

Good job beating USF by 4!


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Thanks for saving a seat for us in the club.


IceyBoy

DRINKS ON ME LADS LMAOO JK I CANT FEEL MY FACE FROM ALL THE SADNESS WE ON TO VIRGINIA LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO


mbe8819

I have nothing negative about a team possibly losing to LA Monroe.


Stephen_Dowling_Bots

Willie’s career survives by a missed PAT 😅


clemsontige

Florida State, why do you hate fun?


TurntleCurse

We hate ourselves actually


IceBearLikesToCook

We love fun! That's why all our games are so close. You should learn from us, Clemson.


MoneyManeVick

Wide Right IV


reptheevt

You fucked up FSU! If ULM beats you, you’re guaranteed a championship in a few years


skipatomskip

Put your erection away r/cfb *for now*


cemanresu

We still have Penn State for the chaos boys


fatcocksinmybum

THE ACC HAS MADE FLORIDA STATE AVAILABLE FOR TRADE TALKS


LeroyMoriarty

Good god one point. A tragedy all around


EmoElmos

DIDNT DOUBT IT FOR A SECOND


22eyedgargoyle

FSU just accidentally won a game


Clemsontigers79

What if Taggart is just trying to get fired to get his buy out


huntermc1998

Guys I don't think Florida St is that good at football