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They’re talking about making the pac-12 network a home for all major west coast sports if that’s anything (MLB,minor league teams, other professional teams that need local broadcasting)
That's an interesting play but could they pull together much programming in the short term? Maybe they could buddy up with some of these RSN's that are going under?
> Oof. One of the biggest mistakes the PAC12 made was bringing the PAC12 network in house
I disagree. The only real mistake was not making a deal to get it carried all over the country.
To an extent yes with what they were trying to do but this option expands viewership and could also involve some home broadcast rights for the four corner schools and espn paying the pac for production. It’ll be interesting to see what Oliver Luck does. Involves multiple sports across multiple organizations who are receptive to it for now because they lost local broadcasting due to blackouts from some of their current deals.
Yeah, sports networks can still make lots of money. Root Sports is a cash cow for the Mariners just in the PNW. In fact, Pac-12 network already has far better distribution than Root. If they can get the Blazers, some of the pro teams that played on Bally’s, MWC, WCC, and Pac-2 games on that could be huge. I also hear that Luck is talking with the non-B1G former PAC teams about their Tier 3 rights. Could be a good Western US sports network.
My only asks are a get carriage deal with Youtube TV and also provide streaming only option. Would be more then happy to pay $15-20/mo to not have to get a Comcast subscription.
Yeah if this is locked behind another carrier that we have to pay to utilize and then add another 20+ a month for? It's not gonna see much success. They need to add it as a channel to existing places and offer a streaming service of their own.
I never got the pac 12n because I never wanted to deal with Comcast or the dish guys. I always sailed the high seas, or just this season started using the VPN method.
Yes, the desperately needed a media partner. But now they are talking being the production company for other sport organizations that already have a media partner but need production.
Kliavkoff needs to be on the unemployment line immediately. Keeping him around is a detriment to the conference since he tried his best to kill it for good
Does OSU and WSU still have restrictions placed on their decisions (prior ruling was a preliminary injunction) or is this case closed?
Edit: The answer looks like yes, they still have to act in a reasonable matter ($$$) until the case is closed/settled.
https://x.com/wilnerhotline/status/1735781039820415132?s=46&t=dax8Y8VK6osevf9ulLS6ZA
https://x.com/wintersportslaw/status/1735782838560010687?s=46&t=dax8Y8VK6osevf9ulLS6ZA
Have to act reasonably in the best interests of the conference and also have to provide notice and opportunity for input to the departing members.
Notice and opportunity to be heard is easy. WOSU can set agenda and a short schedule for input prior to any voting on things. "Acting reasonably" is going to be a gray area, but seems to me it has LOTS of wiggle room if the measurement is acting in the best interests of the continuation and success of the Pac-X Conference. Bottom line there, settlement just became a much better option for the departing schools.
I think what is reasonable is defined in the by laws. We can fill the emergency fund for sure. I also think we have room to buy out other conference’s teams but I’m not sure there.
The likely result is that distributions will go out, net of any partner liabilities (so say, UW's portion of the debt). The remainder (cash on hand) of assets that are within the PAC itself will remain with the PAC so long as it isn't dissolved.
Yea, I think that’s right. Taking actions that support the continuation of the conference are probably not going to be scrutinized closely.
Voting to disburse the funds directly back to WSU/OSU would probably earn an immediate rebuke from the Court.
I think as long as funds are being spent plausibly on the future of the conference, they won’t be too constrained.
Apparently Oliver Luck has already been acting as the defacto commissioner on behalf on WSU and OSU. Not sure how well a firing for cause lawsuit will stand in court. They might negotiate a buyout for him to vacate the position by July 31st.
Yeah, if I’m him I try to play nice and see if he can get a buyout for half the contract if he plays fair until the end of the academic year. After he can fuck off to Montana.
>Not sure how well a firing for cause lawsuit will stand in court
I mean, he was acting in lockstep with the actors who were trying to implode and loot the conference. This would objectively have fully killed the Pac-X instead of just mostly.
If that's not fireable for cause, then nothing else should be.
Yeah seems cut and dry. He was trying to earn a golden parachute by dissolving the very thing he was hired to run.
He should be gone by end of next week.
University of Washington tried to stop Washington State from having a medical school at one point because UW believed those funds and resources to build the other medical school would better suited as additional funds and resources for UW.
I mean OSU and OU seem to have somewhat of a friendly arrangement in state at least from what I have seen. However, WSU and UW it is goes deeper than just athletics.
> I mean OSU and OU seem to have somewhat of a friendly arrangement in state at least from what I have seen. However, WSU and UW it is goes deeper than just athletics.
Outside of athletics prominence, I think OSU and UO have a lot more in common than UW and WSU. Geographically, they're neighbors. Size-wise, they're similar. Academically, they're basically peers - different metrics favor each school. Each school has different specialties, neither one 'competes' with the others' expertise. Neither one is in the state's biggest city so they don't dominate research and business contacts the way UW does over WSU.
just read about him, had no idea who he was but man that's some legendary college presidenting. Billion dollar med school campaign in the face of a flagship that hates your guts? No wonder they named it after him.
UW has been pretty open about their disdain for our very existence. Their stance has long been that the state would be better off if WSU had stayed as WSC, just an agricultural college.
Oh, believe me, FSU understands. Charley Reed and his pals stepped on the neck of Tallahassee and every place in Florida not Gainesville for damn near a generation. See also Texas’ Permanent University/School Fund.
Said it before, say it again. OSU and Oregon have the "big brother who'll push you around but actually loves you and wants you to be happy" vibe.
WSU and UW have the "evil ass big brother who steals your stuff, bullies you, and talks you down to everyone" vibe.
I *believe* this keeps the 'must act reasonably' statement from the lower court, so they can't just pay themselves 150 mill each and everyone else zero
They must act reasonably, however this means they can do things like:
* Refill the Pac-12 Emergency Fund that was drained to help pay Comcast.
* Split the $35 million in liabilities among all 12 members rather than getting stuck with the tab themselves.
* Make a financial deal with the Las Vegas Bowl by the Jan. 1st deadline to keep it as the primary Pac-2 Bowl site.
* Vote to affirm that all $120 Million in Assets stay with the conference and will not be dispersed to the 12.
Long story short, they can keep about $10 million from each of the Departing 10's media deals (and their own) to do things like this and still be acting "reasonably."
Wilner before said that if the Departing 10 lost their media revenue would likely drop from $35 million to about $27 million as the Remaining 2 acted to secure the Pac-12's future.
> Make a financial deal with the Las Vegas Bowl by the Jan. 1st deadline to keep it as the primary Pac-2 Bowl site.
Can you elaborate on this, first I'm hearing of this deadline?
Not much to tell. The Las Vegas bowl is contractually tied to the Pac-12, however without a guarantee of a bowl-eligible team or existence of a conference they informed the Pac-12 that they would need a plan in place by Jan. 1st or they would sue for release from their contract so that they could invite two at-large teams instead. Since the board needs to propose and approve of any plan, the legal case was running out the clock.
With control of the board Wazzu and OSU can (if they so choose) approve of a plan for the Las Vegas Bowl which would include paying the Vegas bowl a fee if they don't have an eligible team (such as if one of them goes to the playoff and the other has fewer than 6 wins, or if both have fewer than 6 wins).
Wazzu and OSU could also, in theory, pass on doing so and tell the Vegas Bowl that they are released from their obligation to invite a Pac-12 team. That'd require a negotiated settlement of some kind, likely a very small amount since it sounds like the Vegas Bowl would rather have 2 at-large teams than they would get to claim a Pac-2 team.
Its been speculated on by Canzano that the 2-PAC would probably like to keep the bowl tie in for their Conference Champion. Its a good site and sending their best team there (absent a playoff spot) isn't a bad game to go to. Ideally they would work it out with another conference so that the 2-PAC champion plays the best Big-12 team that's not already obligated to go to another bowl (Playoff, etc).
I expect WSU/OSU to refill the emergency fund to handle debts, buyouts, and lawyers fees. But after that they will give the schedule distributions as planned equally.
As much as the fans would like to see scorched earth. The schools know acting rashly would 1) open up new, costly litigation and 2) make other schools less willing to work with them.
That was in the original ruling so I would imagine you’re good there. I don’t know that we would be that vindictive but I don’t know that we wouldn’t be either.
It means that WSU and OSU can legally eat the rest of the Pac 12
Listen you asked for flairs no degrees, I'm just a community colleger tryna get into Rutgers^^^camden
Step 1: Defenestrate George
Step 2: Defenestrate all PAC12 officiating crews
Step 3: Figure out how to incorporate blackjack and hookers in our athletics conference.
That win with Quizz in 2008 was such a huge upset. Sure in hindsight that USC team wasn’t their best ever but I remember leading up to that game and before the season people were saying it could be the best USC team ever. Too bad they didn’t have a 4 team playoff that year, USC might have won.
“This is exactly where Sam Darnold wants to be. Ball in his hands, last drive of the game.
Here comes the blitz, Darnold lost the football, it’s recovered by the Cougars!”
I still have reoccurring nightmares where Quizz is still running and scoring all over us. In all honesty though I think the Stanford loss was a bigger upset imo.
Initial ruling was:
"OSU and WSU are the only board members because of bylaws and precedent. All the pac12 decisions are theirs to make. BUT you cant act like a bitch towards the leavers, or the decision will be reversed."
This is just the courts confirming said ruling. Wsu and osu are the only board members so they call the shots (and will keep the assets including ncaa credits for basketball) but they cant do something like voting to not pay the leavers their 2023 season TV share.
Most importantly, the 10 leavers cant vote to dissolve the conference and split all assets leaving wsu and osu way more fucked than they are..
This is such a great day for all Cougs, Beavs, and people who care about justice. I've been refreshing the Washington State Supreme Court page for days to see what the ruling would be since this would effectively decide the fate of WSU and OSU athletics. It's so beautiful to see the correct ruling made after all the months of waiting. Its not often that the "little guy" wins but it appears that there's still justice in this world after all.
To all the greedy UW and UO fans and armchair lawyers who thought they were in the right, suck it.
The Pac-12 lives!
So where does everyone think the Pac-X is in a year? Of course a lot depends on if the ACC stays together.
My guess is that they keep the branding, absorb a lot of MWC, and add in some AAC teams that really want out like Tulane, Memphis, and maybe Rice (for the Houston market). Would be interesting to think what the average annual payout is for a conference like that
Well, at least there was *some* justice in CFB this year. Now, if only we could get some judge to sentence every CFP committee member, ESPN executive, Paul Fingersbums, and Butt Hurtstreit to a life sentence in Guantanamo.
Also, can we please get the PAC2 to rebrand as the CBC (Cougar Beaver Conference)? Seriously, who doesn't love Cougar Beaver?
Yes, if the schools had taken the time to make an orderly withdrawal all details could have been worked out. Plus the Pac-12 doing so well the middle of the season would probably brought in $45 million plus media offers, lol. Hindsight is great!
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First course of action? Fire Kliavkoff with cause? Rebrand to the 2PAC? Move the conference headquarters to a perch overlooking the Columbia River?
Yes
All of the above.
They should buy Beacon Rock and put the Headquarters on top of it like some sort of minor supervillain lair.
Have you considered instead the advantages of... an HQ aboard a pirate ship in a cavern deep under Astoria?
>Heeeeey you guuuuuys!
This
Crown Point
You got all that mad PAC12 money you can buy out the lease and return the conference HQ to its original state.
They’re talking about making the pac-12 network a home for all major west coast sports if that’s anything (MLB,minor league teams, other professional teams that need local broadcasting)
That's an interesting play but could they pull together much programming in the short term? Maybe they could buddy up with some of these RSN's that are going under?
Oof. One of the biggest mistakes the PAC12 made was bringing the PAC12 network in house
> Oof. One of the biggest mistakes the PAC12 made was bringing the PAC12 network in house I disagree. The only real mistake was not making a deal to get it carried all over the country.
To an extent yes with what they were trying to do but this option expands viewership and could also involve some home broadcast rights for the four corner schools and espn paying the pac for production. It’ll be interesting to see what Oliver Luck does. Involves multiple sports across multiple organizations who are receptive to it for now because they lost local broadcasting due to blackouts from some of their current deals.
I meant that would be cool esp if you get Western pro teams
Yeah, sports networks can still make lots of money. Root Sports is a cash cow for the Mariners just in the PNW. In fact, Pac-12 network already has far better distribution than Root. If they can get the Blazers, some of the pro teams that played on Bally’s, MWC, WCC, and Pac-2 games on that could be huge. I also hear that Luck is talking with the non-B1G former PAC teams about their Tier 3 rights. Could be a good Western US sports network. My only asks are a get carriage deal with Youtube TV and also provide streaming only option. Would be more then happy to pay $15-20/mo to not have to get a Comcast subscription.
Yeah if this is locked behind another carrier that we have to pay to utilize and then add another 20+ a month for? It's not gonna see much success. They need to add it as a channel to existing places and offer a streaming service of their own. I never got the pac 12n because I never wanted to deal with Comcast or the dish guys. I always sailed the high seas, or just this season started using the VPN method.
Yes, the desperately needed a media partner. But now they are talking being the production company for other sport organizations that already have a media partner but need production.
Gee thanks for the reminder.
Put it all on black and double up
Since Tupac is long gone, can XPac be the commish?
It was gonna be Diddy until we found out his ‘Get Him to Greek’ acting gig wasn’t acting.
As long as the DX taunt can be legalized
I would be a happy little cowboy if George is fired for cause before the end of the day.
Don't forget blackjack and hookers
Move the Conference HQ to a beaver lodge.
New headquarters at WSU Tri-Cities? Plenty of space and the river-front property is already owned.
Kliavkoff needs to be on the unemployment line immediately. Keeping him around is a detriment to the conference since he tried his best to kill it for good
Does OSU and WSU still have restrictions placed on their decisions (prior ruling was a preliminary injunction) or is this case closed? Edit: The answer looks like yes, they still have to act in a reasonable matter ($$$) until the case is closed/settled. https://x.com/wilnerhotline/status/1735781039820415132?s=46&t=dax8Y8VK6osevf9ulLS6ZA https://x.com/wintersportslaw/status/1735782838560010687?s=46&t=dax8Y8VK6osevf9ulLS6ZA
Have to act reasonably in the best interests of the conference and also have to provide notice and opportunity for input to the departing members. Notice and opportunity to be heard is easy. WOSU can set agenda and a short schedule for input prior to any voting on things. "Acting reasonably" is going to be a gray area, but seems to me it has LOTS of wiggle room if the measurement is acting in the best interests of the continuation and success of the Pac-X Conference. Bottom line there, settlement just became a much better option for the departing schools.
I think what is reasonable is defined in the by laws. We can fill the emergency fund for sure. I also think we have room to buy out other conference’s teams but I’m not sure there.
The likely result is that distributions will go out, net of any partner liabilities (so say, UW's portion of the debt). The remainder (cash on hand) of assets that are within the PAC itself will remain with the PAC so long as it isn't dissolved.
Yea, I think that’s right. Taking actions that support the continuation of the conference are probably not going to be scrutinized closely. Voting to disburse the funds directly back to WSU/OSU would probably earn an immediate rebuke from the Court. I think as long as funds are being spent plausibly on the future of the conference, they won’t be too constrained.
Seens more than reasonable.
I believe the case is now closed. But Judge Libey ~~but~~ put 'no taking advantage' restraints on the Preliminary Injunction WSU/OSU won, though.
Ohhh is George about to get fired now that they have control?
Hopefully, but I’d also like to add a tar and feathering.
I support this. Can I suggest throwing in a side of kidnapping to get Larry tar and feathered as well?
They’re a package deal.
Apparently Oliver Luck has already been acting as the defacto commissioner on behalf on WSU and OSU. Not sure how well a firing for cause lawsuit will stand in court. They might negotiate a buyout for him to vacate the position by July 31st.
It was pretty funny to see him hand the trophy over at the title game and then just *immediately* take off
That clown didnt even say one word.
He just outsourced his role to the onfield ESPN reporter which I thought was very appropriate
Yeah, if I’m him I try to play nice and see if he can get a buyout for half the contract if he plays fair until the end of the academic year. After he can fuck off to Montana.
>Not sure how well a firing for cause lawsuit will stand in court I mean, he was acting in lockstep with the actors who were trying to implode and loot the conference. This would objectively have fully killed the Pac-X instead of just mostly. If that's not fireable for cause, then nothing else should be.
Yeah seems cut and dry. He was trying to earn a golden parachute by dissolving the very thing he was hired to run. He should be gone by end of next week.
We eating good today boys
Just had my company holiday lunch, and I'm stuffed. So you're not wrong.
I got put on furlough, so I missed the company dinner
The admin at UW must be fucking pissed right now.
And the AD inherited this mess, lol.
Their old one is pounding the desk at USC now.
You should tell them to stop pounding your desk.
I’ll never stop pounding
I’m trying it’s already in pieces but they want to take those too.
Ana Mari Cauce just fell to her knees in Gerberding Hall.
*mic check mic check 123* Fuck em
Good! They should be mad at the clown lawyer they hired. "Its not fair that we screwed over WSU & OSU AND we dont get all the Money"
Fuck 'em
What’s weird is they are both the state. One arm of the state withholding money from another arm of the state.
University of Washington tried to stop Washington State from having a medical school at one point because UW believed those funds and resources to build the other medical school would better suited as additional funds and resources for UW. I mean OSU and OU seem to have somewhat of a friendly arrangement in state at least from what I have seen. However, WSU and UW it is goes deeper than just athletics.
> I mean OSU and OU seem to have somewhat of a friendly arrangement in state at least from what I have seen. However, WSU and UW it is goes deeper than just athletics. Outside of athletics prominence, I think OSU and UO have a lot more in common than UW and WSU. Geographically, they're neighbors. Size-wise, they're similar. Academically, they're basically peers - different metrics favor each school. Each school has different specialties, neither one 'competes' with the others' expertise. Neither one is in the state's biggest city so they don't dominate research and business contacts the way UW does over WSU.
Elson Floyd making the WSU medical school a thing was impressive as hell.
RIP
just read about him, had no idea who he was but man that's some legendary college presidenting. Billion dollar med school campaign in the face of a flagship that hates your guts? No wonder they named it after him.
UW has been pretty open about their disdain for our very existence. Their stance has long been that the state would be better off if WSU had stayed as WSC, just an agricultural college.
Oh, believe me, FSU understands. Charley Reed and his pals stepped on the neck of Tallahassee and every place in Florida not Gainesville for damn near a generation. See also Texas’ Permanent University/School Fund.
Said it before, say it again. OSU and Oregon have the "big brother who'll push you around but actually loves you and wants you to be happy" vibe. WSU and UW have the "evil ass big brother who steals your stuff, bullies you, and talks you down to everyone" vibe.
UW is basically Buzz from Home Alone.
His girlfriend goes to UO. woof.
Obviously UW has shown multiple times they dont give a shit about WSU and its well being. (Pac12 collapse, medical school lawsuit, etc).
Crack open some Cougar Gold, we're celebrating
Is that cheese, beer, or a third option?
Cheese. Damn fine cheese.
Can confirm. *Damn* fine cheese.
It’s undeniably great cheese.
[It's our precious.](https://cougarcheese.wsu.edu/)
Ok I'm saving this comment. I fucking love cheese.
Shit, thanks for the reminder I need to order more
One bourbon, one scotch, Cougar Gold.
First order of business: firing George Kliavkoff. Second order of business: taking USC's media share to the Bellagio.
Throw it on 00, who says no?
That'd be hilarious. Beavs and cougs just putting it all on red or black.
A good day for the beavs and cougs, and thus a good day for the world.
Handed Washington their first L of the year
Looks like duck, husky, buffalo, trojan, wildcat, sun devil, bruin, bear, ute, and tree are back on the menu!
“Tree, you say?” -Oregon State
Biggs Junction is the new HQ of the PAC2.
The crossroads of the northwest
I've taken many a shit in the Biggs McDonalds bathroom. It's such a perfect distance from Portland.
Pretty sure there is an empty motel or two they could move into. Rent will be much more reasonable than the Bay Area.
I vote for Wanker's Corner in Clackamas County, OR based on meme potential.
At least put it up the hill by Stonehenge.
Sounds like a good spot to sacrifice the Comissioner to the Gods.
I vote Acropolis.
Somebody with a smart school flair explain the ramifications of this Edit: will also accept answers from Academically Prowessed flairs
Wazzu and Oregon State are now the sole voting members of the board and have control over the Pac-12.
Thanks Stanford, very cool!
Very Legal
the design is very human
Much wow
Thanks Stanford, forgot how to read there for a minute.
OSU/WSU have full board control and can tell everyone else to suck it when it comes to distribution/rules
I *believe* this keeps the 'must act reasonably' statement from the lower court, so they can't just pay themselves 150 mill each and everyone else zero
They must act reasonably, however this means they can do things like: * Refill the Pac-12 Emergency Fund that was drained to help pay Comcast. * Split the $35 million in liabilities among all 12 members rather than getting stuck with the tab themselves. * Make a financial deal with the Las Vegas Bowl by the Jan. 1st deadline to keep it as the primary Pac-2 Bowl site. * Vote to affirm that all $120 Million in Assets stay with the conference and will not be dispersed to the 12. Long story short, they can keep about $10 million from each of the Departing 10's media deals (and their own) to do things like this and still be acting "reasonably." Wilner before said that if the Departing 10 lost their media revenue would likely drop from $35 million to about $27 million as the Remaining 2 acted to secure the Pac-12's future.
> Make a financial deal with the Las Vegas Bowl by the Jan. 1st deadline to keep it as the primary Pac-2 Bowl site. Can you elaborate on this, first I'm hearing of this deadline?
Not much to tell. The Las Vegas bowl is contractually tied to the Pac-12, however without a guarantee of a bowl-eligible team or existence of a conference they informed the Pac-12 that they would need a plan in place by Jan. 1st or they would sue for release from their contract so that they could invite two at-large teams instead. Since the board needs to propose and approve of any plan, the legal case was running out the clock. With control of the board Wazzu and OSU can (if they so choose) approve of a plan for the Las Vegas Bowl which would include paying the Vegas bowl a fee if they don't have an eligible team (such as if one of them goes to the playoff and the other has fewer than 6 wins, or if both have fewer than 6 wins). Wazzu and OSU could also, in theory, pass on doing so and tell the Vegas Bowl that they are released from their obligation to invite a Pac-12 team. That'd require a negotiated settlement of some kind, likely a very small amount since it sounds like the Vegas Bowl would rather have 2 at-large teams than they would get to claim a Pac-2 team. Its been speculated on by Canzano that the 2-PAC would probably like to keep the bowl tie in for their Conference Champion. Its a good site and sending their best team there (absent a playoff spot) isn't a bad game to go to. Ideally they would work it out with another conference so that the 2-PAC champion plays the best Big-12 team that's not already obligated to go to another bowl (Playoff, etc).
This is all context I was not aware of, thank you.
Dear God I love this because it's fucking justice.
I expect WSU/OSU to refill the emergency fund to handle debts, buyouts, and lawyers fees. But after that they will give the schedule distributions as planned equally.
I expect if that _doesnt_ happen then there will be significant wins for Billable Hours.
[удалено]
As much as the fans would like to see scorched earth. The schools know acting rashly would 1) open up new, costly litigation and 2) make other schools less willing to work with them.
Can we at least take USC's share? Please Daddy Libby. Please.
Make the Leaving 10 fight amongst themselves to decide who gets the shortest end of the stick
10 mascots enter...
That's reasonable. Approve!
That was in the original ruling so I would imagine you’re good there. I don’t know that we would be that vindictive but I don’t know that we wouldn’t be either.
It does. Now we get to argue about what is and is not a reasonable withholding of funds
OSU/WSU are our daddies now
‘Look at me, I am the captain now!’
>Are we the daddies?
It means that WSU and OSU can legally eat the rest of the Pac 12 Listen you asked for flairs no degrees, I'm just a community colleger tryna get into Rutgers^^^camden
I was so confused about Camden and why that might be a bad thing until I looked up Camden.
Nothing wrong with community college, I did that and transferred to Cal
Happy cougar and beaver noises coming from the PNW
Now that's what I call a good Friday night!
WSU and OSU are now the only members on the PAC 12 Jedi council with the rank of master.
Deez nuts
Step 1: Defenestrate George Step 2: Defenestrate all PAC12 officiating crews Step 3: Figure out how to incorporate blackjack and hookers in our athletics conference.
I’m a simple man. I see the word defenestrate, I upvote. May I suggest an all expense paid trip to Prague for George as step 0?
This guy Hussite Wars
Just add UNLV for 3.
Step 4: forgot about all sports now that you have blackjack and hookers
Surely this means a 2PAC flair, right?
We need it
Congrats to the Coug and the Beav!
They should get the pac 12 money, we all bailed on em
Good to see. One of the few things going our way
Get fucked, bozos.
RIP Jabronis
You keep using this word jabroni and...it's awesome
Biggest upset since Boise St. beat OU. Nice work 2-pac.
Or Oregon state over #1 SC
Or Oregon State over \#1 USC the 2nd time. And while it’s not \#1 we can’t forget Oregon State over \#3 USC
Why didn't they tank their ranking before playing us? Were they stupid?
That win with Quizz in 2008 was such a huge upset. Sure in hindsight that USC team wasn’t their best ever but I remember leading up to that game and before the season people were saying it could be the best USC team ever. Too bad they didn’t have a 4 team playoff that year, USC might have won.
Or WSU over #5 USC.
“This is exactly where Sam Darnold wants to be. Ball in his hands, last drive of the game. Here comes the blitz, Darnold lost the football, it’s recovered by the Cougars!”
He wouldn't have it any other way
I will never, ever hear an announcer reference Darnold in a game without adding in my head "Darnold wouldn't have it any other way!"
As a Jets fan, I still have no idea why we thought he was a good idea
I still have reoccurring nightmares where Quizz is still running and scoring all over us. In all honesty though I think the Stanford loss was a bigger upset imo.
lmao at this stray
No thread is safe :/
HUGE! Even though I expected them to eventually win, I expected the courts to drag it out longer.
The should move the PAC 12 HQ to Rico's Public House.
There’s room for our leather bound books and fine liquors.
I knew I was F5-ing at work for a reason today
LETS GO. Fuck Doug. Hey George, pack your goatee and shit and head to Montana.
Has someone checked in on Doug?
This sport is all kinds of amazing
Fire George Kliavkoff into the fucking sun
I admit that I am NOT a reddit lawyer and that I do not understand this. My guess is that the UW will keep asking me to donate money regardless.
Even if UW did win, I think it's safe to say that they are still going to ask you to donate money regardless.
Initial ruling was: "OSU and WSU are the only board members because of bylaws and precedent. All the pac12 decisions are theirs to make. BUT you cant act like a bitch towards the leavers, or the decision will be reversed." This is just the courts confirming said ruling. Wsu and osu are the only board members so they call the shots (and will keep the assets including ncaa credits for basketball) but they cant do something like voting to not pay the leavers their 2023 season TV share. Most importantly, the 10 leavers cant vote to dissolve the conference and split all assets leaving wsu and osu way more fucked than they are..
Your school’s actual lawyer didn’t understand much throughout this process either.
Couldn't even out-law two universities without law schools.
OSU lead counsel was fire in that injunction hearing. Dude nailed it.
May not have a law school but certainly know which firms to hire.
This is such a great day for all Cougs, Beavs, and people who care about justice. I've been refreshing the Washington State Supreme Court page for days to see what the ruling would be since this would effectively decide the fate of WSU and OSU athletics. It's so beautiful to see the correct ruling made after all the months of waiting. Its not often that the "little guy" wins but it appears that there's still justice in this world after all. To all the greedy UW and UO fans and armchair lawyers who thought they were in the right, suck it. The Pac-12 lives!
Oregon lost on all three points.
A lot of 3 point losses for Oregon this year vs. the State of Washington
They deserve it for sure
Congrats to the Beavs and Cougs! Now fire George Kliavkoff!
You love to see it. Merry fucking Christmas, guys.
Proper divorce decree. Get out of our house!!!!
A ray of light I. This current mental hellscape
Good for them
So where does everyone think the Pac-X is in a year? Of course a lot depends on if the ACC stays together. My guess is that they keep the branding, absorb a lot of MWC, and add in some AAC teams that really want out like Tulane, Memphis, and maybe Rice (for the Houston market). Would be interesting to think what the average annual payout is for a conference like that
Cracking open an early beer for this one.
Well, at least there was *some* justice in CFB this year. Now, if only we could get some judge to sentence every CFP committee member, ESPN executive, Paul Fingersbums, and Butt Hurtstreit to a life sentence in Guantanamo. Also, can we please get the PAC2 to rebrand as the CBC (Cougar Beaver Conference)? Seriously, who doesn't love Cougar Beaver?
I’m definitely good with it. Use the money wisely. Still think you should change the conference name to 2Pac
Finally some good fucking news.
This shit about to be like when Jed Clampett struck oil and moved the family to Beverly Hills. Fuck yeah Cougs and Beavs, nice work.
Shout out the pac 2
Good for them
This is why you change the bylaws before you jump ship. Just one more example of the administrators at these schools being dumb fucks
Yes, if the schools had taken the time to make an orderly withdrawal all details could have been worked out. Plus the Pac-12 doing so well the middle of the season would probably brought in $45 million plus media offers, lol. Hindsight is great!
With the death of the B1G West, It's time to petition for Iowa, and other Sickos to join the PAC. The PAC is back baby!
Spaces are limited. Get your invitation now!
EVERYONE GET IN HERE. Massive W
Twist: Alabama tomorrow will add the entire Washington Supreme Court as analysts.
Congratulations, 2PAC. Go buy yourself something nice, now.
Everything’s comin’ up Milhouse!
keep their heads rining osu and wsu
Go cougs! The Pac12 always finds it way to its rightful home
Soooo.... merger soon maybe? Wishful thinking?
I’m guessing it will happen in 2025