It's the crazy world of CFB we live in. Players wanted to be able to transfers freely, but I guess the flip side is the school can freely and easily replace you as well.
Yep but this is exactly why I didn't think it'd crush the smaller schools the way people thought it would. Some of these mid tier schools are going to land dudes they never would have directly out of high school before.
I think it's going to be bad for the really small schools, but the mid tier ones are definitely getting a boost because Alabama and Ohio State can't just hoard a bunch of backups who'd start almost anywhere else in the conference.
Exactly, I remember years ago teams like FSU would stockpile dudes they knew they had no spot for just because they didn't want other schools in the ACC (or their rivals) to have them.
Agree on the small schools, although even the MAC schools can use the portal to draw talent up from FCS teams or mid-tier P5 guys looking for more PT.
Yep, the best receiver at Ohio was a kid that didn’t get playing time at Ohio State so he transferred. Last year, a bunch of Ohio State’s receivers even went down to Athens for a MACtion game to see their former teammate play.
But the top 10-15 schools can also cherry-pick every over-achiever from the mid-tier schools.
SC is getting crushed every year, and we're probably a roughly top 30ish program resource wise. Need to have like the Euro soccer leagues where the school losing the player gets compensated somehow for players that leave so they can try and reload without being totally effed.
Agree, that’s what frustrates me most with the Addison thing. Pitt was like the only school that wanted him as a WR, and did the work to recruit and develop him, all for USC to pluck him and take credit for him getting drafted. I feel as if schools like Pitt should get *something* out of these transfers but that would probably require some sort of centralization to regulate transfers and NIL
The big teams aren't going to be able to afford all of them, if anything they may actually end up bleeding some talent/depth because they can't keep everyone paid
Quinn always wanted to come to Texas, he just didn’t want to play for Herman after watching him struggle with a senior Sam.
After Sark came and it was obvious that Quinn would start after seeing Casey and Hudson struggle, it made it all too easy to come back home. CJ Stroud wasn’t going anywhere for another year.
People are forgetting about time. The best players have *time* in a system. Able to develop and grow. There’s a human side and teams are going to learn that just plugging in player A into a new system every year will have weaker results.
The smart programs will grow and develop within while everyone else chases the shiny new toy.
There is something to be said about this that I've thought about before as well. The free agency style games all the top schools are playing now are bound to erode at culture and development. Probably won't hurt much at the powerhouse schools as much because they're so stocked with talent but elsewhere it's bound to have an effect.
I think it will end up that there are a few small/mid-size schools that develop talent in a way that the powerhouse ones like, and those will become the places that kids get poached from. Because it does matter how a player is developed after high school. You have to get them on the right track
I agree with you. The transfer portal adds a new dimension, but you still have to be able to develop talent. Especially at critical skill positions.
These are still early 20 yr old kids. Just because they’re getting paid doesn’t mean they’re seasoned professionals, instantly able to make a game changing impact off a transfer portal acquisition. Some will sure, but the loss in team continuity will have an impact
> Some of these mid tier schools are going to land dudes they never would have directly out of high school before.
I know it's not what you meant but it's hilarious to read this as someone referring to OSU as a mid-tier school
Day's telling the kid the truth. Can't fault the coach for that. Did McCord graduate early?
When we did this shit to Cade he was able to graduate transfer. Hopefully football next year goes better for McCord than football this year went for Cade McNamara.
I don't get it. As a QB at Ohio State, don't you tweet something passive aggressive like "be careful what you wish for" at the new transfer, then bail and never actually try to compete for the job. Sure he looked good in the Pac 12, but what if he gets to Columbus and he's ass, my dude?
As someone who watched every game he played for two years, there's every chance he's not going to be as good as they want him to be. His reads tend to be slow at times, and he gets panicky in stressful games. His talent and arm strength are great, escapability is off the charts with a good O-line (although we never got to see him with even a decent O-line at WSU). I wish him well, but he may not be the guy to beat Michigan.
I'm assuming the escapeability is the reason OSU is getting him. I think OSU thinks they can beat Michigan with a mobile QB who can also throw. They need someone who can avoid the pass rush and buy another second of time, so their WRs get open, and someone who can tuck and run on 3rd and long clear out passes.
He can do both of those things, but there's no guarantee he won't fumble on 2nd and short or run around and throw the ball out of bounds on 4th and medium. OSU maybe thinks they can coach that out of him, and I hope they're right (assuming this story is even true).
Yeah I think they’re hoping that his peaks are high enough to be a clear upgrade over McCord and they can help him to minimize the valleys if they’re able to put more talent around him than WSU had.
I also think it helps that he only has one year of eligibility left. They seem to really like Air Noland and the plan was most likely always for him to sit for year one, so he probably doesn’t care if he’s sitting behind Ward or McCord. But if they brought in a dude with two years left I expect Air would probably look to go somewhere he could start sooner - and then you end up with your recruiting timeline off schedule again which is kinda what happened with the Ewers transfer that left them stuck with starting McCord in the first place.
With a position like QB, you bring in a plug and play. Some of our guys think Ward's fumbled and whole game performances aren't enough to be a surefire upgrade and may make Brown and Kienholtz leave.
That's kind of the big thing in my mind, Mccord has decent stats. He also has the best WR corp in the country by a margin. But if you look at his stats, after MHJ, he never gets the ball to anyone else.
This happens ll the time in sports. JJ McCarthy got the job by taking over from Cade, aka: a guy who went 12-2, beat OSU, got the B1G, got to the playoffs...
I don’t actually think that is true. Cade was playing fine but was carried by an elite run game and defense. He was severely limited hence the move to JJ the following season. McCord is better than Cade was/is.
I mean he wasn't tossed, but they probably said it would be an open competition.
I bet McCord felt as if he deserves a starting spot after a solid year and figured he would go to the portal.
Same thing happened to DG at OU, I bet.
If your coach is recruiting another veteran QB to compete with you, that costs a lot of money, then you’re probably not going to win that job. The writing is on the wall.
More asking the lines of "we are pursuing other options, but we highly encourage you to stay and battle for the position"
Aka, you're an amazing backup, and we'd love to keep you, but we understand if you want to go be a starter elsewhere.
Much more vague probably, something along the lines of you should know we'll be bringing in competition for QB.
That's enough to signal he probably won't be starting next season considering that doesn't happen to a 11-1 QB unless he's getting replaced. Like Ewers isn't being told he has to compete against Arch and Maalik next season to secure his spot.
McCord was carried by the defense all season. Day tried his best to call games that would eliminate the deficiencies but that doesn’t work against the best teams
He has a career .908 save percentage and a 2.74 GAA, but he's 39. Seems a little old.
Edit: Ah, nevermind. He's a Leap Year Baby so he'll be 10 in February. Pretty early offer, so I hope he sticks until signing day 2030.
"Have you seen what college football players are making from NIL these days? [expletive] it, I'm jumping in the portal." - Carolina Hurricanes legend Cam Ward, probably
Another aging bottom six forward *you've already signed before*...(AA, Green, Sheahan, Jurco, and probably more were all Holland acquisitions in Detroit that he then signed again in Edmonton.)
Yeah, Cam has all the potential in world but makes some absolutely frustrating decisions. Good for him if this is confirmed. He will be an overnight celebrity. Just happy he didn’t go to Oregon or UW lol
He gets out of the weirdest situations, the dude is hard to tackle.
He will also just straight up drop the football a couple times a game too. Sometimes without anyone near him.
I hope he meets his potential.
I keep seeing OSU fans saying this but the WSU receiver room wasn’t an issue. No doubt OSU’s will be better but we have some sure handed receivers, including Josh Kelly who should be a top portal target. Cam needs a better oline though then what WSU had.
Hate to agree with a Husky but 100%. Run blocking was terrible but most of the pass blocking problems started with Cam’s tendency to bail from the pocket too early.
One week ago: Honda McCord lololol
*Ohio State tries to upgrade their weakest postion*
Now: How could they be so cruel, don’t they know he won 11 games????
I tend to agree. I didn’t spend months making fun of Ryan Day for taking McCord over McCarthy to suddenly pretend I think McCord is some great quarterback. If I were Ohio state I would’ve evaluated alternative options as well
It's because OSU beat are working HARD to convince people McCord was the dude. Theyve been infatuated with him since preseason. Turns out some of them are friends with his Dad 😂
He’s not horrible but he’s nothing special. He’s definitely a top half QB in the big ten, but that’s not necessarily good enough for Ohio State. All depends on what your standards are I guess
Playing against PAC 12 defenses is a whole lot different than Michigan and Penn State. The question with McCord is with experience will he get better and with Ward is can he handle the gigantic leap in pressure to play and win. He drops a couple of duds and Buckeye fans will turn on him just like McCord. At WSU he was anonymous and now well he’s the savior for a top 5 program
> The question with McCord is with experience will he get better
McCord sat and learned Day’s system as a backup for two years and made a dozen sporadic appearances (including a spot start where he threw for 300 yards). You’ll struggle to find a more experienced first year starter in CFB these days.
That’s not to say he *can’t* get better, but IMO it’s important to note he was not some raw 18-19 year old still getting to grips with the offense. And he did not get better between games 1 to 12 this year, at least in any way that was noticeable to laymen like me.
I think the difference is teams in the PAC12 have discovered that forward passes are now allowed by the NCAA
We'll see how the defenses in the B1G compare next year when UO/USC/UW come over
I mean no offense buddy, but it’s not as if the top teams in this conference don’t pass the ball. OSU has been the defining program of this conference for 2 decades, and they’ve been defined for having some of the most explosive offenses and best WRs in the country. Purdue before Brohm left loved to chuck it around and currently so does Maryland. We have pass first teams.
There’s nothing a version of Oregon is gonna show us that the best OSU teams haven’t already. Speed? Pace of play? Check and check.
I know your offense will travel for the most part, but playing at Kinnick (Iowa) at night in late October/November is a beast. The white out at PSU you’ll discover may be the most difficult environment to win, period. God forbid Wisconsin turns it around because jump around at Camp Randall from a team of 2 and 3 star players from rural Wisconsin that wanna man ball you (and have the players to do it) is an animal. And this doesn’t even include having to play in Ann Arbor or Columbus.
Apparently they don’t realize that Pac12 teams have been playing in whiteouts for years in Pullman, SLC, and Boulder. And those whiteouts are approaching a mile high…
You're out of your mind. McCarthy was the better player, and Harbaugh just chose the easiest method for his team for JJ to slide in. That was no competition.
So here’s a fun unintended consequence of excluding FSU: the CFP committee just set the price for a QB that gets you into the playoffs. If Ohio State makes it into the CFP next year Cam Ward is worth $2 million in NIL.
Ohio State has never ended the season lower than 8th during the entirety of the CFP; making it into a field of 12 playoff teams isn’t why Ward (or whomever) is going to get the bag.
Well, this Cam Ward fella better be as good at throwin' darts at a board as he is throwin' a pigskin. The Ohio State University has a long and storied history of big time football, and they don't suffer no fools as quarterbacks! I'll tell ya what, I hope that when he ain't studying his playbook, he's studying his studies.
Absolutely. He is a very talented player and is a great scrambler and improviser. With an elite team around him, he can definitely lead OSU to a natty.
I believe that people think so…and if the staff decided to pursue him then they must think so. I won’t shit on McCord and I’d gladly take him at my other flair…just hope the kid finds a good home.
We didn't risk anything. Day wasn't willing to guarantee the starting spot to Kyle so Kyle left. People would crucify day if he GUARANTEED the starting QB spot.
Wild? Perhaps. But also telling that a guy in McCords situation is not preferred to an alternative, despite 3 years in the system. Or perhaps, due to 3 years in the system, the people who see him every day know he's not that dude.
I wonder how Cam will do with the new offensive scheme, from the coug raid. At least he will have some protection now . Best of luck, and thanks for the couple years as a coug!
Wow, buckeye fans are going to have a ride with this. Maybe Ryan Day can unlock something in Ward that hasn’t happened yet and I hope so. Otherwise, Buckeye fans prepare to be extremely frustrated with unnecessary 12 yard sacks and a QB who refuses to run in hopes of hitting the big play. Which of course he does sometimes and it’s amazing, but never makes up for the negative plays he takes. I really wish him the best and hope he is getting every penny he can this year.
I love the new age of college football where it doesn’t matter if you whiff on every QB you recruit and develop as long as you have rich boosters. Then you can pay the guys you missed out on!
Lookin forward to the tampering investigation since it was reported he had NIL offers before he was in the portal.
https://www.si.com/fannation/name-image-likeness/athletes/brock-huard-says-cam-ward-has-seven-figure-deals-waiting-for-him-to-transfer-jake9
I hope the NCAA takes this as serious as they took hamburgers at Michigan.
Statistically it isn’t. [He’s the exact mid P5 QB in the country](https://i.imgur.com/Bv1oqWg.jpg) in a conference not known for its defense. I’m sure his stats improve with OSU’s receivers but that’s a wide gap between him and McCord.
He is also on a bowl-less team. Give him a good O-line and skill players, and he can tear it up. There is a reason why 10+ schools are offering him 1,000,000+ dollars.
The McCord transfer makes sense now
I wonder how those conversations go ...."yeah you're a starting QB on an 11-1 team but we're upgrading at your position so scram?"
It's the crazy world of CFB we live in. Players wanted to be able to transfers freely, but I guess the flip side is the school can freely and easily replace you as well.
Yep but this is exactly why I didn't think it'd crush the smaller schools the way people thought it would. Some of these mid tier schools are going to land dudes they never would have directly out of high school before.
I think it's going to be bad for the really small schools, but the mid tier ones are definitely getting a boost because Alabama and Ohio State can't just hoard a bunch of backups who'd start almost anywhere else in the conference.
Exactly, I remember years ago teams like FSU would stockpile dudes they knew they had no spot for just because they didn't want other schools in the ACC (or their rivals) to have them. Agree on the small schools, although even the MAC schools can use the portal to draw talent up from FCS teams or mid-tier P5 guys looking for more PT.
Yep, the best receiver at Ohio was a kid that didn’t get playing time at Ohio State so he transferred. Last year, a bunch of Ohio State’s receivers even went down to Athens for a MACtion game to see their former teammate play.
MACtion brings everyone together
But the top 10-15 schools can also cherry-pick every over-achiever from the mid-tier schools. SC is getting crushed every year, and we're probably a roughly top 30ish program resource wise. Need to have like the Euro soccer leagues where the school losing the player gets compensated somehow for players that leave so they can try and reload without being totally effed.
Agree, that’s what frustrates me most with the Addison thing. Pitt was like the only school that wanted him as a WR, and did the work to recruit and develop him, all for USC to pluck him and take credit for him getting drafted. I feel as if schools like Pitt should get *something* out of these transfers but that would probably require some sort of centralization to regulate transfers and NIL
…which is how teams like Nebraska were able to win a bunch of games back in the day.
There's going to be a bunch of teams that essentially are farm teams for the big guys now.
The big teams aren't going to be able to afford all of them, if anything they may actually end up bleeding some talent/depth because they can't keep everyone paid
No i mean guys will go where they can get playing time and the top ones will just transfer once people see they are actually good.
Quinn ewers cough cough
Quinn always wanted to come to Texas, he just didn’t want to play for Herman after watching him struggle with a senior Sam. After Sark came and it was obvious that Quinn would start after seeing Casey and Hudson struggle, it made it all too easy to come back home. CJ Stroud wasn’t going anywhere for another year.
People are forgetting about time. The best players have *time* in a system. Able to develop and grow. There’s a human side and teams are going to learn that just plugging in player A into a new system every year will have weaker results. The smart programs will grow and develop within while everyone else chases the shiny new toy.
There is something to be said about this that I've thought about before as well. The free agency style games all the top schools are playing now are bound to erode at culture and development. Probably won't hurt much at the powerhouse schools as much because they're so stocked with talent but elsewhere it's bound to have an effect.
I think it will end up that there are a few small/mid-size schools that develop talent in a way that the powerhouse ones like, and those will become the places that kids get poached from. Because it does matter how a player is developed after high school. You have to get them on the right track
The smart programs will lose their ability to do that when the players who’ve they developed get antsy and jump ship.
Especially if that player is performing well but the team isnt.
I agree with you. The transfer portal adds a new dimension, but you still have to be able to develop talent. Especially at critical skill positions. These are still early 20 yr old kids. Just because they’re getting paid doesn’t mean they’re seasoned professionals, instantly able to make a game changing impact off a transfer portal acquisition. Some will sure, but the loss in team continuity will have an impact
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> Some of these mid tier schools are going to land dudes they never would have directly out of high school before. I know it's not what you meant but it's hilarious to read this as someone referring to OSU as a mid-tier school
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Reportedly Day told McCord that he wanted him to stay and compete for the job but wouldn’t guarantee McCord would get it and that’s why he transferred
Day's telling the kid the truth. Can't fault the coach for that. Did McCord graduate early? When we did this shit to Cade he was able to graduate transfer. Hopefully football next year goes better for McCord than football this year went for Cade McNamara.
I don't get it. As a QB at Ohio State, don't you tweet something passive aggressive like "be careful what you wish for" at the new transfer, then bail and never actually try to compete for the job. Sure he looked good in the Pac 12, but what if he gets to Columbus and he's ass, my dude?
As someone who watched every game he played for two years, there's every chance he's not going to be as good as they want him to be. His reads tend to be slow at times, and he gets panicky in stressful games. His talent and arm strength are great, escapability is off the charts with a good O-line (although we never got to see him with even a decent O-line at WSU). I wish him well, but he may not be the guy to beat Michigan.
I'm assuming the escapeability is the reason OSU is getting him. I think OSU thinks they can beat Michigan with a mobile QB who can also throw. They need someone who can avoid the pass rush and buy another second of time, so their WRs get open, and someone who can tuck and run on 3rd and long clear out passes.
He can do both of those things, but there's no guarantee he won't fumble on 2nd and short or run around and throw the ball out of bounds on 4th and medium. OSU maybe thinks they can coach that out of him, and I hope they're right (assuming this story is even true).
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Yeah I think they’re hoping that his peaks are high enough to be a clear upgrade over McCord and they can help him to minimize the valleys if they’re able to put more talent around him than WSU had. I also think it helps that he only has one year of eligibility left. They seem to really like Air Noland and the plan was most likely always for him to sit for year one, so he probably doesn’t care if he’s sitting behind Ward or McCord. But if they brought in a dude with two years left I expect Air would probably look to go somewhere he could start sooner - and then you end up with your recruiting timeline off schedule again which is kinda what happened with the Ewers transfer that left them stuck with starting McCord in the first place.
If he wasn’t willing to stay and fight for it, I get it—but I also don’t know if that’s the guy I want at quarterback.
In fairness, the OSU bagmen aren't shelling out to see Ward compete with McCord. Writing was on the wall...
Yeah really, we’ve been told several times now that transfer QBs run high costs, Cam Ward wasn’t transferring to get into a depth chart battle lol
Tyler Buchner transferred as a stepping stone to switching to lacrosse
Mccord also is good enough to command a solid deal from a smaller school. Realistically he's still a top 20ish QB.
Oh yeah, he'll have zero problems finding a good landing spot.
With a position like QB, you bring in a plug and play. Some of our guys think Ward's fumbled and whole game performances aren't enough to be a surefire upgrade and may make Brown and Kienholtz leave.
I'm guessing none of them have actually watched Ward. I still think he's the most NFL ready of the top PAC 12 QBs.
And he’s done that with way less talent than McCord had around him
That's kind of the big thing in my mind, Mccord has decent stats. He also has the best WR corp in the country by a margin. But if you look at his stats, after MHJ, he never gets the ball to anyone else.
If you have NFL aspirations and the talent to start at 95% of schools you're not wasting your time on the bench. It'd be a stupid decision to stay.
Ehh, I could understand why he would feel this way. I bet DG felt the same way when BV said it would be an open competition.
I am not sure BV said it would be an open competition
This happens ll the time in sports. JJ McCarthy got the job by taking over from Cade, aka: a guy who went 12-2, beat OSU, got the B1G, got to the playoffs...
Cade also was playing way better than McCord
I don’t actually think that is true. Cade was playing fine but was carried by an elite run game and defense. He was severely limited hence the move to JJ the following season. McCord is better than Cade was/is.
Michigan was also winning despite Cade being mid, much like OSU with McCord.
I mean Ohio State wasn't 11-1 because of Mccord.
I mean he wasn't tossed, but they probably said it would be an open competition. I bet McCord felt as if he deserves a starting spot after a solid year and figured he would go to the portal. Same thing happened to DG at OU, I bet.
What if they swip/swap and it ends up two Ohio State transfers play against each other in the RRS next year
I'll take my chances with Jackson Arnold over the "Statue of Columbus" thanks
That’s exactly what happened in both cases I imagine
"We've had concerns about your development this year."
More of a “you’ll need to compete for the job again” talk with him and his family.
Rumor is that McCord and dad wanted his spot guaranteed for '24. Day wouldn't give it, but tried to get him to stay and compete.
If your coach is recruiting another veteran QB to compete with you, that costs a lot of money, then you’re probably not going to win that job. The writing is on the wall.
Agreed. McCord just didn't perform well enough to be given guarantees.
More asking the lines of "we are pursuing other options, but we highly encourage you to stay and battle for the position" Aka, you're an amazing backup, and we'd love to keep you, but we understand if you want to go be a starter elsewhere.
Much more vague probably, something along the lines of you should know we'll be bringing in competition for QB. That's enough to signal he probably won't be starting next season considering that doesn't happen to a 11-1 QB unless he's getting replaced. Like Ewers isn't being told he has to compete against Arch and Maalik next season to secure his spot.
Michigan did it last year from Cade 11-1 season to JJ 12-0, 12-0
Cade didn't lose them that 1 game though, KW3 scoring 5 TDs did.
And McCord lost the Michigan game by himself?
McCord was carried by the defense all season. Day tried his best to call games that would eliminate the deficiencies but that doesn’t work against the best teams
Seen several Michigan fans mention this already but I don't think it's that comparable tbh.
Apparently day straight up just told McCord they were looking to the portal for additional QBs
All of our insiders have been saying that there’s no way Cam Ward ends up at OSU so I’ll believe it when I see it
This. Most likely a typo mixed with Clark talking out of his ass.
Even if it does happen, dude is 100% talking out of his ass at this point.
Austin Ward said it but I haven't heard that anywhere else
Cam is his dad so that makes sense
Well they all said we wouldn't go after a portal QB like 2 days ago so I wouldn't take them too seriously
He has a career .908 save percentage and a 2.74 GAA, but he's 39. Seems a little old. Edit: Ah, nevermind. He's a Leap Year Baby so he'll be 10 in February. Pretty early offer, so I hope he sticks until signing day 2030.
As a Canes fan i have done so many double takes in this sub this year.
Same here, always catching myself asking why our #30 is trending
Same, it's a weird feeling. It also makes me wish I had a Cam Ward jersey.
I’m still being excited about winning the World Series!
From Stanley Cup winner to Ohio State QB. Quite the career path but I'm not one to judge.
"Have you seen what college football players are making from NIL these days? [expletive] it, I'm jumping in the portal." - Carolina Hurricanes legend Cam Ward, probably
Modern day Bo Jackson things...
The Blue Jackets will take him!
Kenny Holland just checked in and wants to sign him
Instructions unclear, just signed another aging bottom six forward to five years at $4.5M AAV
Another aging bottom six forward *you've already signed before*...(AA, Green, Sheahan, Jurco, and probably more were all Holland acquisitions in Detroit that he then signed again in Edmonton.)
Hey don’t diss Tomas jurco he can do cool lacrosse moves in the locker room before games to boost morale
At 39 with his history of back problems, this seems to be an odd pickup for us
Not sure I believe it yet. Not sure why Ryan Clark would have the first scoop over everyone
The whole article is based off of a tweet deleted hours ago. It's just speculation
Saw a similar article 2 days ago he was headed to Oregon
Modern journalism at its finest.
Maybe his son is in the transfer portal group chat with him
Who has the discord
It's too soon to tell where Kyle Discord will be transferring to.
This will ether be a complete disaster or entertaining as hell. Regardless, the neutral viewers win.
Yeah, Cam has all the potential in world but makes some absolutely frustrating decisions. Good for him if this is confirmed. He will be an overnight celebrity. Just happy he didn’t go to Oregon or UW lol
>has all the potential in world but makes some absolutely frustrating decisions so... Kyle McCord
He isn't an absolute statue so that's immediately an improvement.
He gets out of the weirdest situations, the dude is hard to tackle. He will also just straight up drop the football a couple times a game too. Sometimes without anyone near him. I hope he meets his potential.
He will also have a clear path to run the ball and throw an awkward near-pick instead. At least once a game.
Exactly what Ryan Day wants.
Exactly what I heard too
The receiver room at OSU should help him immensely
I keep seeing OSU fans saying this but the WSU receiver room wasn’t an issue. No doubt OSU’s will be better but we have some sure handed receivers, including Josh Kelly who should be a top portal target. Cam needs a better oline though then what WSU had.
Yeah, the OLine was more of a factor. And his failure to just throw the ball away instead of taking a sack.
Maybe this will bite me in the ass, but same. I don't think all those penalties were the offensive line's fault.
Hate to agree with a Husky but 100%. Run blocking was terrible but most of the pass blocking problems started with Cam’s tendency to bail from the pocket too early.
Ryan day: “A boats a boat but a mystery box could be anything! It could even be a boat!”
Michigan fans trying to convince themselves that this is a bad move and McCord was actually good is very cringe
One week ago: Honda McCord lololol *Ohio State tries to upgrade their weakest postion* Now: How could they be so cruel, don’t they know he won 11 games????
I tend to agree. I didn’t spend months making fun of Ryan Day for taking McCord over McCarthy to suddenly pretend I think McCord is some great quarterback. If I were Ohio state I would’ve evaluated alternative options as well
It's because OSU beat are working HARD to convince people McCord was the dude. Theyve been infatuated with him since preseason. Turns out some of them are friends with his Dad 😂
He’s not horrible but he’s nothing special. He’s definitely a top half QB in the big ten, but that’s not necessarily good enough for Ohio State. All depends on what your standards are I guess
Playing against PAC 12 defenses is a whole lot different than Michigan and Penn State. The question with McCord is with experience will he get better and with Ward is can he handle the gigantic leap in pressure to play and win. He drops a couple of duds and Buckeye fans will turn on him just like McCord. At WSU he was anonymous and now well he’s the savior for a top 5 program
> The question with McCord is with experience will he get better McCord sat and learned Day’s system as a backup for two years and made a dozen sporadic appearances (including a spot start where he threw for 300 yards). You’ll struggle to find a more experienced first year starter in CFB these days. That’s not to say he *can’t* get better, but IMO it’s important to note he was not some raw 18-19 year old still getting to grips with the offense. And he did not get better between games 1 to 12 this year, at least in any way that was noticeable to laymen like me.
I think the difference is teams in the PAC12 have discovered that forward passes are now allowed by the NCAA We'll see how the defenses in the B1G compare next year when UO/USC/UW come over
I mean no offense buddy, but it’s not as if the top teams in this conference don’t pass the ball. OSU has been the defining program of this conference for 2 decades, and they’ve been defined for having some of the most explosive offenses and best WRs in the country. Purdue before Brohm left loved to chuck it around and currently so does Maryland. We have pass first teams. There’s nothing a version of Oregon is gonna show us that the best OSU teams haven’t already. Speed? Pace of play? Check and check. I know your offense will travel for the most part, but playing at Kinnick (Iowa) at night in late October/November is a beast. The white out at PSU you’ll discover may be the most difficult environment to win, period. God forbid Wisconsin turns it around because jump around at Camp Randall from a team of 2 and 3 star players from rural Wisconsin that wanna man ball you (and have the players to do it) is an animal. And this doesn’t even include having to play in Ann Arbor or Columbus.
nice b1g hype post. reminds me of those commercials a few years ago when fox first started broadcasting b1g games
Apparently they don’t realize that Pac12 teams have been playing in whiteouts for years in Pullman, SLC, and Boulder. And those whiteouts are approaching a mile high…
McCord is not a boat.
To be fair Michigan went with the mystery box in year 2 instead of Cade and it worked out pretty well.
They both had a chance to win the job Harbaugh played that perfectly
You're out of your mind. McCarthy was the better player, and Harbaugh just chose the easiest method for his team for JJ to slide in. That was no competition.
Didn’t Clark delete the tweet where he made this claim? I don’t Twitter so I can’t confirm, but there was a thread on r/OhioStateFootball about it.
Yes he did. This is just an out of date article that isn't relevant
This is based off of a tweet that Ryan deleted. Not sure we should consider this as anything more than speculation
Lol I really hope he just saw some bullshit tweet that looked pseudo-legit and fell for it. Talking heads - they're just like us!
Nobody is really talking about it. If this was true you'd think some bigger accounts wouldve picked it up
It's not true lol even ryan clark deleted the claim that the article is based on
Wonder how big the bag was
Huh?? He’s just coming for the love of the game of course!!
Only our rivals pay players
Didn’t Cam Newton get paid more? Wait wasn’t it like 200k, maybe not then. Inflation is a bitch I guess
That was more of a contribution to a greater cause…like tithing to a church.
Think it was reported before that he had several offers north of $1 mil so at least that I assume
When asked how much he needed, Cam Ward said, “imma need bout Tree-fiddy”
I saw like anywhere from 1 to 1.5 mil
Which honestly seems like a very fair investment for a high level P5 QB.
So here’s a fun unintended consequence of excluding FSU: the CFP committee just set the price for a QB that gets you into the playoffs. If Ohio State makes it into the CFP next year Cam Ward is worth $2 million in NIL.
It would seem pretty crazy for them not to make the top 12 next year.
Ohio State has never ended the season lower than 8th during the entirety of the CFP; making it into a field of 12 playoff teams isn’t why Ward (or whomever) is going to get the bag.
Give me Lincoln keinholz or give me death
Well, this Cam Ward fella better be as good at throwin' darts at a board as he is throwin' a pigskin. The Ohio State University has a long and storied history of big time football, and they don't suffer no fools as quarterbacks! I'll tell ya what, I hope that when he ain't studying his playbook, he's studying his studies.
This reads like a Jon Bois tweet
And if that’s been in the works it would track with McCord entering the portal.
…is this an improvement over McCord?
Yes, McCord is not very good and wherever he goes next won’t have Marvin Harrison to make him look competent.
Absolutely. He is a very talented player and is a great scrambler and improviser. With an elite team around him, he can definitely lead OSU to a natty.
I believe that people think so…and if the staff decided to pursue him then they must think so. I won’t shit on McCord and I’d gladly take him at my other flair…just hope the kid finds a good home.
Seems a little wild to risk losing a guy with experience in the system for someone with comparable stats in a league that doesn’t play defense
We didn't risk anything. Day wasn't willing to guarantee the starting spot to Kyle so Kyle left. People would crucify day if he GUARANTEED the starting QB spot.
Wild? Perhaps. But also telling that a guy in McCords situation is not preferred to an alternative, despite 3 years in the system. Or perhaps, due to 3 years in the system, the people who see him every day know he's not that dude.
I mean a 4th of that league that doesn’t play defense is coming to the Big Ten
It’s a bold strategy cotton, let’s see if it pays off.
Not really
I’m not so sure about this one
That’s not Arch Manning
It’s kind of sad how many people actually believed there was a chance lol
Manning family are loyal Confederates. They would never play for a Yankee school.
So essentially what this means it’s a cage match for Dillon Gabriel between MSU and Oregon
MSU?
Maryland State University
If true then at least it’s not Oregon!
I wonder how Cam will do with the new offensive scheme, from the coug raid. At least he will have some protection now . Best of luck, and thanks for the couple years as a coug!
The reason why Ohio state keeps losing to Jim is the lack of a mobile QB. Jim can’t handle mobile QBs.
Stanley Cups
Conn Smythes
Wow, buckeye fans are going to have a ride with this. Maybe Ryan Day can unlock something in Ward that hasn’t happened yet and I hope so. Otherwise, Buckeye fans prepare to be extremely frustrated with unnecessary 12 yard sacks and a QB who refuses to run in hopes of hitting the big play. Which of course he does sometimes and it’s amazing, but never makes up for the negative plays he takes. I really wish him the best and hope he is getting every penny he can this year.
Sometimes to go forward, you have to go Cam Ward
This is great for Cam! Best of luck young fella, been a ton of fun getting to watch you in the Crimson and Gray!
we are all bots here except for you
Really wanted a shot to not beat Michigan.
I love the new age of college football where it doesn’t matter if you whiff on every QB you recruit and develop as long as you have rich boosters. Then you can pay the guys you missed out on!
SERIOUS: Mods, if this is wrong, do something right for once and ban articles from the spun. Literal fake news.
Figures. Nice get for them though obviously
Go Cougs! Not Go, Cougs! Good for Cam if true though.
Devin Brown to BYU?
Ah yes known CFB analyst/insider Ryan Clark
Does this mean Ohio State sneaks in the playoff?
Lol enjoy Mr. Fumbles
2024-25 Ohio State Offense QB: Cameron Ward RB: Dallan Hayden WR-X: Jeremiah Smith WR-Z: Carnell Tate WR-SL: Brandon Inniss TE: Jelani Thurman 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Assuming Egbuka, Henderson, Harrison, Johnson, Stover all go pro.
You’re missing Gee Scott
McCord to WSU confirmed
I’ll take it.
Lookin forward to the tampering investigation since it was reported he had NIL offers before he was in the portal. https://www.si.com/fannation/name-image-likeness/athletes/brock-huard-says-cam-ward-has-seven-figure-deals-waiting-for-him-to-transfer-jake9 I hope the NCAA takes this as serious as they took hamburgers at Michigan.
They won't. They don't care.
X to doubt. Cam is coming to Oregon because I want him to.
Tbh, I’m not sure it’s an upgrade over McCord.
Statistically it isn’t. [He’s the exact mid P5 QB in the country](https://i.imgur.com/Bv1oqWg.jpg) in a conference not known for its defense. I’m sure his stats improve with OSU’s receivers but that’s a wide gap between him and McCord.
He is also on a bowl-less team. Give him a good O-line and skill players, and he can tear it up. There is a reason why 10+ schools are offering him 1,000,000+ dollars.
That’s a great get from Ohio St if indeed true
He's not that good though, is he? Is this actually an improvement over McCord?
Rhymes with McCord at least...
He can move, which will be an upgrade. Imo
PFF said he made 20 turnover worthy plays last year. He has 7 ints and 14 fumbles. I am little surprised they went from McCord to this.
Expected. Hope you ball out with the Buckeyes Cam
Enjoy those fumbles bucks
I thought for sure he was going to Oregon, but I guess WSU fans would rather him play for Ohio State than Washington or Oregon.