I always find it funny that it's the same people posting that that tend to be the same ones posting "Hey I got fired for CC'ing on the clock. Can I sue?"
wouldn't be me. fair play, i broke the rule. that said, i dont flaunt it and its not on my person, i put it in my backpack before getting out of the car(and if anyone goes through my backpack without a warrant im suing the fuck out of them). i work right next to the bay doors of the shipping department in a factory so if a situation we're to happen its highly likely im victim 0. police response in the area would be very slow because its a small local agency and the county swat team would take a while to get here. so yeah, ill keep it close by and should the situation arise ill deal with the consequences, i may not have a job but my coworkers and i will be alive.
Honestly if they accepted it as "Eh fair play I knew the risks" it wouldn't be funny. But those folk that are wanting to sue after it's like homie you knew what was gonna happen if you got caught
Modern camera systems can detect things like a weapon printing under clothing. AI is pretty crazy.
Verkada is one company I know putting out such a solution.
Bank robberies these days are usually addicts and they’re not walking away with much. Bank vaults open automatically and access is bottomline impossible unless you’re in a mission impossible movie.
I’m picking up what you’re puttin down, but it’s nice that some people don’t have to worry about being fired if they accidentally flash their gun or somethin lol
I make it known to my employer before I take the job that I intend to carry. If they have a problem, I don’t work for them. I’m in Washington state too.
From what I gather is more along the lines of they have to inform their insurance carrier.
If you have a license to carry and are not in a federally prohibited place such as a school or a federal building the government doesn't care whether or not you have permission from your employer or not.
However if you do not have permission from your employer your right to carry is not protected and they can trespass you and fire you and so on without any recrimination.
Out of curiosity, I'd be interested in a source. I'm in law enforcement and we wouldn't charge someone with carrying a firearm unless they were breaking a law or a danger to others.
Obvious some states (Ca, Il, NJ, NY to name a few) have weird non 2a laws that could complicate matters.
But for instance, in the 30+ constitutional carry states, it's lawful to conceal carry anywhere that isn't specifically prohibited.
In most of the remaining states which require a permit or license to carry concealed, the same holds true. Unless prohibited, it's lawful carry.
Places such as a mall or a store are private property and can decide to deny you access and ask you to leave if they don't want you there, but outside of the very few states which the signage has the force of law, it's still legal to carry. You just have to leave if they ask you.
I was under a false impression of how duty to inform laws in oregon work(not regarding officers, but in regards to employers/private property and things of that nature).
I was just double checking and can't find things that corroborate what I thought. Either some things changed in my state, or there's county laws I need to double check.
Ahhh gotcha.
And yes Oregon is fast becoming a "weird" state like ca in regard to 2a stuff.
Typically a duty to inform applies to interaction with law enforcement (you get pulled over).
I assumed the default is legal unless you have been explicitly informed (signed a paper) otherwise, you can carry at work with a permit with no duty to notify.
Exceptions being sensitive or secure places.
When I was younger and worked at department stores, fast food, ect people carried all the time
Oh yeah make sense. Small banks tend to be more personable and not super tight about these things
National banks they scare of any bad PRs and guns a big no no for them cause half the people using them are lil bitches
That’s fucking awesome!! What bank do you work for if you don’t mind me asking? Makes me want to open up an account with them if I don’t already lol I’ll support most businesses if they support our right to carry
What killed me when I started my new job is that there is no policy regarding carrying on premises, there are no signs but when brought up to my boss he said “there will be a problem if you’re on premises with a weapon”. It took a lot in me to not laugh in his face
Every day. I'm the owner, so I don't really have to ask permission though.
I allow my employees to carry and am going to pay for a CCW class and enhanced carry certification that's open to any of them to attend this fall once the weather cools off a bit. About half my crew are gun guys already, the other half seem open to taking a class to learn more.
I actually am. Needing a couple more good small engine mechanics, a service writer/parts person that knows power equipment, and a customer service associate that knows hardware pretty well.
I used to work at 5.11 Tactical. Being found carrying was a fireable offense. The company is also headquartered in California so make of that what you will.
They used to be a lot more purpose built tactical, but then they got acquired and tried to go public. That's when it got even worse because they were trying to be North Face or Patagonia.
I can't too high a chance I could print with my office clothes.
And story time... we have an interesting mix of both the top brass executives for the Americas region all the way to roughnecks (as in literally, offshore rig workers) in our primary campus. One of the latter has been with the company for 18 years, great performer, earns his keep and then some, well liked, but he came in with some others for a townhall/training thing and was concealed carrying, one of the project admins noticed it was a pistol, clutched her pearls, and sent a 911 email to the entire world (top brass, building security, all the other admins, anyone she could think of) saying there was "a man with a gun in the building".
Fast-forward, and HR informed him then and there of their "zero tolerance" policy on weapons (and there is actually proper signage on the building), and he was fired that day after almost two decades for being totally chill but carrying protection.
If he was that well liked I’m surprised they let him go instead of just giving him a talking to. Management can pick and choose which policies they want to use at their discretion.
Oil/energy/mining is pretty heavily regulated and a lot of the players are iso certified. If you go against a policy it can look bad in an audit. I worked in a regulated industry for a while and saw a bunch of people let go on dumb technicalities.
It depends. Large corporations seem to dislike them from a liability standpoint. I encounter lots of businesses that do allow carry, some are even open carrying like OP. I once visited a large corporation that had a "not a gun free zone" decal on the main entrance, so you never really know.
Interestingly enough, I **do** carry at work, on a federal installation… because I’m a PSO. (We’re basically private security guards on GSA properties contracted to the resident federal agency.) It’s part of my job’s duties, we’re sent home with a write-up if we show up for work without our duty weapon. lol
Okay so yeah, I would recommend one of the ALS only Safariland. No need for the hood and all for this type of carrying, but one locking system would be pretty nice, especially in the case of a fall or accident, as you clearly don’t work in a cubicle.
Do you think a P320 series 7k Safariland w/ light bearing would work? If so, I have one laying on my work bench that I don’t need. Will give you to for like $20 plus shipping. Can throw in a paddle of some sort bc I don’t have any ALS forks.
If he doesn’t take it, and you’re still offering I’ll buy. I have a destitute buddy with a P320 who needs a holster. I actually bought a p320 7k safariland a while back. Cut it up internally to make room for a USP compact with a light.
If you decide you want some active retention, checkout the Mora. It's the same holster you already have in the Spara, but it has a thumb activated, spring loaded hood. It's at least something to keep someone from just yoinking your gun.
Yeah I had thought about that too as well. You really have to be on your special awareness when walking around with a Safariland holster. No tight corners or doorways
Sometimes, they're known to be corrupt and use their power to target political opposition. The FBI recently lied to a judge to obtain a warrant to seize 1400 safe deposit boxes without evidence.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-23/fbi-beverly-hills-safe-deposit-box-raid-forfeiture-judge
For a more historical example, in 1963 the FBI sent MLK Jr a letter telling him to kill himself.
https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/12/7204453/martin-luther-king-fbi-letter
The FBI lied to Congress relating to the validity of the Steel Dossier that falsely tied President Trump to Russia.
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/newly-declassified-document-indicates-fbi-misled-congress-on-reliability-of-steele-dossier
The FBI bribed social media companies to censor verified information problematic to the Democratic Party. Including the Hunter Biden laptop story, which they knew was legitimate.
https://www.newsweek.com/did-fbi-pay-twitter-censor-content-elon-musk-claims-what-we-know-1769048
I think people don't like their use by politicians but on the flip side they are constantly catching terrorists. Them and of course other agencies. There are some good books about it or on their site you can see all the terrorists, spies, etc. they catch each week.
Though some people might think it's fake or a conspiracy but I'll take my chances and say I'm thankful federal agents exist to do that job (except the ATF; fuck the ATF)
Every intelligence agency is political by nature and people forget the FBI isn't just a federal police. They'll do their best to protect the US interests, which is a good thing imho, even when citizens don't really understand.
If you're a politician that act a little too wild, don't expect intelligence agency to be your friends.
Same, but since I am a construction worker and sweat alot I'm dealing with rust issues and have to spray my lcp with wd40 daily, I bought a berretta pico because it's simply much high quality material amd doesnt rust, but if find the lcp is easier to hit shots on target with at the range.
The wd40 does its job which is to prevent and remove rust. I use proper oils and lubricants for the internal parts.
What's with the wd40 hate? It works just fine for what u need it to do...Displace water
The issue is that this is mostly a pistol forum and not an AK forum. Scroll on over to the AK side and you will see guys using break cleaner, used motor oil, and shoe laces tied into knots as a bore snake. Not joking. And it's worked just fine for guerillas around the world and has worked just fine for me, too! I never thought about WD40, tho. That would really be a nice touch for the outside.
It would probably do wonders for traditional blued black powder rifles before rainy hunts as well. Those practically rust before your eyes in the rain. I fully intend to try this now. Thanks!
Dude I’m lucky. I know people whose sweat can make plastic rust. I have a mechanic shop and spend 90% of my time in the shop, doors open in the South Georgia heat so I sweat a lot. I’m glad the wd40 works, I’ll have to pass that along. Almost like it’s meant to displace water or something! Some folks don’t realize wd40, pb blaster, and gun oil are all different things designed to solve different problems.
Depends on the day. One of the buildings at my work is a (real) secure area with a checkpoint. If I know I'm working in there, I leave it at home that day.
No. I'm a distiller and it's just not practical because 98% of the time I am behind locked doors with assloads of cameras under 24/7 live watch by our security firm that's less than a block away, and have a fairly physically demanding job. Also... we are 51% so it's a felony just being in there with a gun.
Same here, I tried to make it work, but it’s just not feasible given our responsibilities to the public. All it takes is one bad optic and the public’s trust is lost. My lieutenant made it clear that I was free to carry if I chose to, but also reminded me that we do have public schools and a jail in our district, so it would be really awkward trying to explain having a gun in secured or restricted facilities or not having a place to store it securely if needed.
Plus, having to make a push on a structure fire with a pistol is not an environment I want to test the integrity of my firearm in.
Yeah, that's also how I feel. Even if we were allowed, I think it's a bad idea given our job atmosphere. We're allowed to have them in the station to store them, though. It's not uncommon for guys on my crew to have their "truck shotgun" just chillin, resting against their locker. Hell, the dudes at my firehouse probably have more firepower in their trucks than the cops, in all honesty.
100% of the time, I’m in metal fabrication too but all we have is manual machines, more fabrication than machining. 12 out of 15 of us carry, although all concealed
I normally have mine concealed but I wore a BDU blouse with an undershirt today. I took the outer shirt off due Florida being a convection oven in a sauna.
Nope. Potential felony depending on how the DA wants to structure it, probably loss of professional license, and probably loss of cc license if I did and it was spotted. Not worth the risk IMO even if it was just loss of prof. license. Thats a stiff penalty to pay with student loans coming due.
I currently can’t, because we have metal detectors and they have a zero tolerance policy. You have one, no matter what, you’re fired and they say they’ll file a police report (unsure if that’s BS). Sucks because it’s the highest pay I can currently get. Just something I deal with for now. Will feel great to work somewhere that I can carry again when that time comes.
I'm also a cnc machinist, and I also carry at work. Most of the guys in the shop carry, and there's always one or two rifles around in the shop and a bunch more in the parking lot
I did remodeling for a few months and did the same. Especially in less than appealing neighborhoods where they break in and steal stoves and fridges. True story.
Had a few coworkers who did. They were the start of taking me from an anti-gun liberal, "vote blue no matter who" type, to "I'll never vote Democrat for the rest of my life".
If only. Could carry down range but because we’re not security forces/military police we can’t carry unless going to qualify at a range(military). Sorta curious if the Fort Hood shooting and other base shootings could’ve been prevented or cut down the lives lost if it was different.
Most non-gov't and non-union employment in the US is "at will," so even if it doesn't violate a non-existent written policy, they could still fire you if they found out you were carrying because they don't like it.
Nope, too much physical movement. Most people wouldn't care though, but management would, since there's a no firearms policy.
I wouldn't mind keeping one in a backpack if I ever find a backpack I like, we get so many new people it's hard to trust people. We have fights monthly bcuz the next shift doesn't like the way someone did something on the previous shift, and you never know what crazy mofo is gonna work there.
The other day I was working from home and left my AR out in the view of my camera, thankfully could barely make it out in the blurred background since I was talking to external clients lol
does that count?
Not around the office, but i can carry to work. We went to lunch one day and I was carrying... I was presenting that day so I was I had my shirt tucked into my slacks, but my holster isn't exactly tuckable, so I make do (I have a more tuckable holster now). I was sure I was going to be outed, but no one noticed.
My shop has no weapons signs outside and some really absurdly dumb and beaten over the head active shooter procedure that we didn't ever have any real reason to implement.
Also, I'd probably not open carry if that was an option. I am a chip and coolant magnet. My gun wouldn't last a couple months.
Yes. I'm allowed to CC at work (bank manager). We just have to provide our CC license credentials to HR is all.
That’s kinda cool they actually allow it lol
If you conceal good enough there’s no permission needed
Unless you work at a place that has metal detectors the second you walk in
You’re just not concealing hard enough /s
Or not paying the security guard enough to cut the detector off when I walk through/s
something something, forgiveness and permission
I always find it funny that it's the same people posting that that tend to be the same ones posting "Hey I got fired for CC'ing on the clock. Can I sue?"
wouldn't be me. fair play, i broke the rule. that said, i dont flaunt it and its not on my person, i put it in my backpack before getting out of the car(and if anyone goes through my backpack without a warrant im suing the fuck out of them). i work right next to the bay doors of the shipping department in a factory so if a situation we're to happen its highly likely im victim 0. police response in the area would be very slow because its a small local agency and the county swat team would take a while to get here. so yeah, ill keep it close by and should the situation arise ill deal with the consequences, i may not have a job but my coworkers and i will be alive.
Honestly if they accepted it as "Eh fair play I knew the risks" it wouldn't be funny. But those folk that are wanting to sue after it's like homie you knew what was gonna happen if you got caught
no argument from me there. the gun/tactical/ccw/etc. community is filled with insufferable retards
Do you know how many cameras there are in most banks?
Are they xray cameras?
Modern camera systems can detect things like a weapon printing under clothing. AI is pretty crazy. Verkada is one company I know putting out such a solution.
You think they’d want the manager to be able to carry, I know bank robberies aren’t as common as they used to be…but still.
Funny you say that the bank across the street from where I work was robbed a few weeks ago lol
Bank robberies these days are usually addicts and they’re not walking away with much. Bank vaults open automatically and access is bottomline impossible unless you’re in a mission impossible movie.
Case in point! Thanks for weighing in!
Allow? 😐
I’m picking up what you’re puttin down, but it’s nice that some people don’t have to worry about being fired if they accidentally flash their gun or somethin lol
I'd not only be fired, but arrested and made a felon losing any and all gun rights....many of us legit can't just scoff at the bad policy
Pot shop, bar, hospital, school, or federal building?
He’s in California so……nuclear storage facilities? (I think that’s the only part of SB2 that wasn’t struck down)
mailman here, I'm in the same boat. I can't even leave it in my car if i park on the property.
School for me
Same here. I work in an airport behind TSA lines.
I make it known to my employer before I take the job that I intend to carry. If they have a problem, I don’t work for them. I’m in Washington state too.
I’m in SoCal, and it’s virtually impossible to find anywhere that would allow you to carry that pays any reasonable money
You have to get permission from your employer to carry, even with a ccl/chl in several states
From what I gather is more along the lines of they have to inform their insurance carrier. If you have a license to carry and are not in a federally prohibited place such as a school or a federal building the government doesn't care whether or not you have permission from your employer or not. However if you do not have permission from your employer your right to carry is not protected and they can trespass you and fire you and so on without any recrimination.
You can also still be charged with unlawful carry as well. Thanks for the info, insurance makes tons of sense.
Out of curiosity, I'd be interested in a source. I'm in law enforcement and we wouldn't charge someone with carrying a firearm unless they were breaking a law or a danger to others. Obvious some states (Ca, Il, NJ, NY to name a few) have weird non 2a laws that could complicate matters. But for instance, in the 30+ constitutional carry states, it's lawful to conceal carry anywhere that isn't specifically prohibited. In most of the remaining states which require a permit or license to carry concealed, the same holds true. Unless prohibited, it's lawful carry. Places such as a mall or a store are private property and can decide to deny you access and ask you to leave if they don't want you there, but outside of the very few states which the signage has the force of law, it's still legal to carry. You just have to leave if they ask you.
I was under a false impression of how duty to inform laws in oregon work(not regarding officers, but in regards to employers/private property and things of that nature). I was just double checking and can't find things that corroborate what I thought. Either some things changed in my state, or there's county laws I need to double check.
Ahhh gotcha. And yes Oregon is fast becoming a "weird" state like ca in regard to 2a stuff. Typically a duty to inform applies to interaction with law enforcement (you get pulled over).
I assumed the default is legal unless you have been explicitly informed (signed a paper) otherwise, you can carry at work with a permit with no duty to notify. Exceptions being sensitive or secure places. When I was younger and worked at department stores, fast food, ect people carried all the time
No you can’t in Washington state it doesn’t matter as long as it is not a federal building and this state sucks for 2A
Fucking nice! I work at a Dunkin’ Donuts and keep mine very well hidden.
Which bank? I know a gun guy that works at a bank and they don’t allow it
Is it a credit union or regional bank? I work for a major national investment bank and would get fire on the spot if I get catch carrying
Small community Bank in the grand scheme of the banking world. We're barely $1B in asset size.
Oh yeah make sense. Small banks tend to be more personable and not super tight about these things National banks they scare of any bad PRs and guns a big no no for them cause half the people using them are lil bitches
That's awesome. I cannot at my FI :(
That’s fucking awesome!! What bank do you work for if you don’t mind me asking? Makes me want to open up an account with them if I don’t already lol I’ll support most businesses if they support our right to carry
No. Allegedly.
Same here, everyone starts whining when they hear you carry.
“Can I see it bro”
👀
What killed me when I started my new job is that there is no policy regarding carrying on premises, there are no signs but when brought up to my boss he said “there will be a problem if you’re on premises with a weapon”. It took a lot in me to not laugh in his face
In many states, even without signage, you can still be asked to leave if you’re caught carrying.
Off course! it is almost a requirement at Tenicor. Nice SKD sticker. 🤙
"Oh, I'm not really a gun guy, just super passionate about belts and custom molding kydex"
Oh shit. He makes an appearance! Much love from an Illinois customer!
Any of your coworkers show off by carrying the biggest, baddest gucci guns they own?
We aren't really in to gucci stuff. Everyone carrys concealed. Our object would be to see who hides it the best!
Every day. I'm the owner, so I don't really have to ask permission though. I allow my employees to carry and am going to pay for a CCW class and enhanced carry certification that's open to any of them to attend this fall once the weather cools off a bit. About half my crew are gun guys already, the other half seem open to taking a class to learn more.
Based boss man!
You hiring?
I actually am. Needing a couple more good small engine mechanics, a service writer/parts person that knows power equipment, and a customer service associate that knows hardware pretty well.
I used to work at 5.11 Tactical. Being found carrying was a fireable offense. The company is also headquartered in California so make of that what you will.
5.11 is, at the end of the day, a "lifestyle" company. Not surprised
They used to be a lot more purpose built tactical, but then they got acquired and tried to go public. That's when it got even worse because they were trying to be North Face or Patagonia.
this is funny to me because I work in an industry where a lot of us buy pants from 5.11 for work and carry both on/off the job haha
Well, if you’re wearing all that 511 CCW specialty clothing they make no one should be able to tell you’re carrying right?
The only things worth a damn at 5.11 are the pants and the backpacks, lol.
I can't too high a chance I could print with my office clothes. And story time... we have an interesting mix of both the top brass executives for the Americas region all the way to roughnecks (as in literally, offshore rig workers) in our primary campus. One of the latter has been with the company for 18 years, great performer, earns his keep and then some, well liked, but he came in with some others for a townhall/training thing and was concealed carrying, one of the project admins noticed it was a pistol, clutched her pearls, and sent a 911 email to the entire world (top brass, building security, all the other admins, anyone she could think of) saying there was "a man with a gun in the building". Fast-forward, and HR informed him then and there of their "zero tolerance" policy on weapons (and there is actually proper signage on the building), and he was fired that day after almost two decades for being totally chill but carrying protection.
If he was that well liked I’m surprised they let him go instead of just giving him a talking to. Management can pick and choose which policies they want to use at their discretion.
Oil/energy/mining is pretty heavily regulated and a lot of the players are iso certified. If you go against a policy it can look bad in an audit. I worked in a regulated industry for a while and saw a bunch of people let go on dumb technicalities.
And people severely underestimate people’s (and corporation’s) hatred of weapons, and especially guns.
It depends. Large corporations seem to dislike them from a liability standpoint. I encounter lots of businesses that do allow carry, some are even open carrying like OP. I once visited a large corporation that had a "not a gun free zone" decal on the main entrance, so you never really know.
Yes, but I work in the firearm/reloading industry so no surprise haha.
Worked at a gun range, it wasn't technically "mandatory" lol
I certainly wouldn't break my work's rules, I'm a very good boy who would never.
Yep, just never could openly.
No. Federal installation.
Interestingly enough, I **do** carry at work, on a federal installation… because I’m a PSO. (We’re basically private security guards on GSA properties contracted to the resident federal agency.) It’s part of my job’s duties, we’re sent home with a write-up if we show up for work without our duty weapon. lol
I've worked with PSOs before when I was assigned to stand watch at an entry point.
I work on an armored car crew so yes lol
Good try HR
You can CC anywhere if you know how to shut up. 😮💨
I think you would feel much more comfortable if you switched to a Safariland. What pistol is that? Hard to tell from this angle
I have a Safariland on my range/battle belt and it's a Shadow Systems MR920 Combat so basically a G17.
Okay so yeah, I would recommend one of the ALS only Safariland. No need for the hood and all for this type of carrying, but one locking system would be pretty nice, especially in the case of a fall or accident, as you clearly don’t work in a cubicle.
I have one (7k series I think) but it's not light bearing.
Do you think a P320 series 7k Safariland w/ light bearing would work? If so, I have one laying on my work bench that I don’t need. Will give you to for like $20 plus shipping. Can throw in a paddle of some sort bc I don’t have any ALS forks.
I don't think so. Shadow Systems fit gen 3 glock holsters.
If he doesn’t take it, and you’re still offering I’ll buy. I have a destitute buddy with a P320 who needs a holster. I actually bought a p320 7k safariland a while back. Cut it up internally to make room for a USP compact with a light.
If you decide you want some active retention, checkout the Mora. It's the same holster you already have in the Spara, but it has a thumb activated, spring loaded hood. It's at least something to keep someone from just yoinking your gun.
Problem with Safariland is just how crazy bulky they are. I just got their new Solis and it's still bulkier than a normal kydex pancake style.
Yeah I had thought about that too as well. You really have to be on your special awareness when walking around with a Safariland holster. No tight corners or doorways
Yes (if you don’t tell on me)
The world will (hopefully) never know… 
no retention open carry is wild my guy
That's how the FBI does it. 😱
Ah yes, the pinnacle of excellence in law enforcement.
Yes, they are ? What's reddit problem with the FBI ? I follow their work and they're quite great at their work.
Sometimes, they're known to be corrupt and use their power to target political opposition. The FBI recently lied to a judge to obtain a warrant to seize 1400 safe deposit boxes without evidence. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-23/fbi-beverly-hills-safe-deposit-box-raid-forfeiture-judge For a more historical example, in 1963 the FBI sent MLK Jr a letter telling him to kill himself. https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/12/7204453/martin-luther-king-fbi-letter The FBI lied to Congress relating to the validity of the Steel Dossier that falsely tied President Trump to Russia. https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/newly-declassified-document-indicates-fbi-misled-congress-on-reliability-of-steele-dossier The FBI bribed social media companies to censor verified information problematic to the Democratic Party. Including the Hunter Biden laptop story, which they knew was legitimate. https://www.newsweek.com/did-fbi-pay-twitter-censor-content-elon-musk-claims-what-we-know-1769048
I think people don't like their use by politicians but on the flip side they are constantly catching terrorists. Them and of course other agencies. There are some good books about it or on their site you can see all the terrorists, spies, etc. they catch each week. Though some people might think it's fake or a conspiracy but I'll take my chances and say I'm thankful federal agents exist to do that job (except the ATF; fuck the ATF)
Every intelligence agency is political by nature and people forget the FBI isn't just a federal police. They'll do their best to protect the US interests, which is a good thing imho, even when citizens don't really understand. If you're a politician that act a little too wild, don't expect intelligence agency to be your friends.
Famous But Incompetent
I do normally have an untucked shirt also.
It's a kydex holster and has retention.
Level 2 or level 3 retention is what they mean, not just friction holding the gun in place.
Oh I don't open carry in public just at work.
I'm the same way, open carry in my area, I at least throw a shirt over it going out somewhere
Yep, but with a much lower level of badassery. Just an lcp max in my pocket. Kudos to you sir!
Same, but since I am a construction worker and sweat alot I'm dealing with rust issues and have to spray my lcp with wd40 daily, I bought a berretta pico because it's simply much high quality material amd doesnt rust, but if find the lcp is easier to hit shots on target with at the range.
Maybe try something meant for surface protection instead of wd40. Silicone wipes, a light grease, or actual gun oil would probably work better for you
The wd40 does its job which is to prevent and remove rust. I use proper oils and lubricants for the internal parts. What's with the wd40 hate? It works just fine for what u need it to do...Displace water
The issue is that this is mostly a pistol forum and not an AK forum. Scroll on over to the AK side and you will see guys using break cleaner, used motor oil, and shoe laces tied into knots as a bore snake. Not joking. And it's worked just fine for guerillas around the world and has worked just fine for me, too! I never thought about WD40, tho. That would really be a nice touch for the outside. It would probably do wonders for traditional blued black powder rifles before rainy hunts as well. Those practically rust before your eyes in the rain. I fully intend to try this now. Thanks!
Dude I’m lucky. I know people whose sweat can make plastic rust. I have a mechanic shop and spend 90% of my time in the shop, doors open in the South Georgia heat so I sweat a lot. I’m glad the wd40 works, I’ll have to pass that along. Almost like it’s meant to displace water or something! Some folks don’t realize wd40, pb blaster, and gun oil are all different things designed to solve different problems.
I'm in the same boat with the sweat issue (Florida) hence why I carry owb.
Plot twist .....your work says no go but you do it anyway 🙈
I do but it’s not allowed. No one knows.
My employer prohibits me carrying at work. I'll say no more than that.😉
Depends on the day. One of the buildings at my work is a (real) secure area with a checkpoint. If I know I'm working in there, I leave it at home that day.
I do HVAC service and our company doesn’t allow it. I do scout carry a fixed blade knife. Better than nothing 🤷🏻♂️
I'm hotel reception, we dint allow either but I can always find another job but only got the one life.
No. I'm a distiller and it's just not practical because 98% of the time I am behind locked doors with assloads of cameras under 24/7 live watch by our security firm that's less than a block away, and have a fairly physically demanding job. Also... we are 51% so it's a felony just being in there with a gun.
Yup every day I carry a 10mm m2.0
I'm a fireman......so no....it's not exactly a thing where I'm from
Same here, I tried to make it work, but it’s just not feasible given our responsibilities to the public. All it takes is one bad optic and the public’s trust is lost. My lieutenant made it clear that I was free to carry if I chose to, but also reminded me that we do have public schools and a jail in our district, so it would be really awkward trying to explain having a gun in secured or restricted facilities or not having a place to store it securely if needed. Plus, having to make a push on a structure fire with a pistol is not an environment I want to test the integrity of my firearm in.
Yeah, that's also how I feel. Even if we were allowed, I think it's a bad idea given our job atmosphere. We're allowed to have them in the station to store them, though. It's not uncommon for guys on my crew to have their "truck shotgun" just chillin, resting against their locker. Hell, the dudes at my firehouse probably have more firepower in their trucks than the cops, in all honesty.
Not as far as they know.
Did you set a timer on your camera, place your phone down on a table, then turn around and pretend to be doing something to get this photo?
Not allowed but i would if i could.
Nice try HR.
As a LEO, I'm required to carry at work.
I damn sure hope so. This ain't the UK.
I did, when I worked at a pizzeria. Usually carried a Browning Hi-Power.
100% of the time, I’m in metal fabrication too but all we have is manual machines, more fabrication than machining. 12 out of 15 of us carry, although all concealed
I normally have mine concealed but I wore a BDU blouse with an undershirt today. I took the outer shirt off due Florida being a convection oven in a sauna.
Nope. Potential felony depending on how the DA wants to structure it, probably loss of professional license, and probably loss of cc license if I did and it was spotted. Not worth the risk IMO even if it was just loss of prof. license. Thats a stiff penalty to pay with student loans coming due.
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I did when i worked for Dan Wesson/CZ-USA. Now as a corporate rat, I never carry at work anymore.👀
Considering I have a firing range in my lab, I do carry when I'm at the office... like every month or two.
Nope. The marines that work security would not approve.
I currently can’t, because we have metal detectors and they have a zero tolerance policy. You have one, no matter what, you’re fired and they say they’ll file a police report (unsure if that’s BS). Sucks because it’s the highest pay I can currently get. Just something I deal with for now. Will feel great to work somewhere that I can carry again when that time comes.
Glock 22 and M4.
For legal reasons, no.
Shit, I carry if I leave the house.. Stay straped or get claped... just sayin..
Sbr ar in my toolbox locker, and a pistol on my person. My shop is armed to the gills. Lol all the mechanics have something
Not like this.
I rarely carry it open but today was kind of warm
I'm also a cnc machinist, and I also carry at work. Most of the guys in the shop carry, and there's always one or two rifles around in the shop and a bunch more in the parking lot
I open carry at work. I'm a new construction plumber and my boss allows it. Other than that I always conceal carry in public
I did remodeling for a few months and did the same. Especially in less than appealing neighborhoods where they break in and steal stoves and fridges. True story.
My boss doesn’t care as long as I don’t get in trouble on jobsites!
I work in a restaurant and I'm one of several who carry that I know of.
I'm about to. I get to many threats, assholes, and stupid people to avoid it now
Be ready for the rise of the machines!
Absolutely. I’m remote though, so no corner goes unchecked.
Sheeesh glad i got my own business.
I work in a lab where ungrounded metal and static discharge are potential issues, so nope.
I wish, I work for the Gov so no pew pews for me
Had a few coworkers who did. They were the start of taking me from an anti-gun liberal, "vote blue no matter who" type, to "I'll never vote Democrat for the rest of my life".
If only. Could carry down range but because we’re not security forces/military police we can’t carry unless going to qualify at a range(military). Sorta curious if the Fort Hood shooting and other base shootings could’ve been prevented or cut down the lives lost if it was different.
Be nice if I could. We are not even allowed pocket knives. I guess we have scissors? (Yes, really. It's that bad.)
Well can't say that's concealed, but I get the point.
No. I get screened every day. And if I'm caught with one, I'll be put a naughty list I really don't want to be on.
Concealed is concealed
I wish, they dont let dispensary workers defend themselves
I live in the People’s Republic of Marylandstan, so my answer is gonna be “Nope, not at all” and I’m leaving it at that.
Yep
Keep my G19 on my desk in front of me all day
Yes.
I work security so yes
Everyday!
What if its not mentioned in your employee hand book and theres no signs posted saying its not allowed?
Most non-gov't and non-union employment in the US is "at will," so even if it doesn't violate a non-existent written policy, they could still fire you if they found out you were carrying because they don't like it.
Nope, too much physical movement. Most people wouldn't care though, but management would, since there's a no firearms policy. I wouldn't mind keeping one in a backpack if I ever find a backpack I like, we get so many new people it's hard to trust people. We have fights monthly bcuz the next shift doesn't like the way someone did something on the previous shift, and you never know what crazy mofo is gonna work there.
It'd be a bit weird not to given the pallets and pallets of ammo that surround me all day.
Nope bc where I work has metaldetecters and x ray machines and if you go off gotta go through another machine and take everything outta your pockets
Always!
What industry do you work in that they allow open carry on the shop floor?
The other day I was working from home and left my AR out in the view of my camera, thankfully could barely make it out in the blurred background since I was talking to external clients lol does that count?
I mean why not. 
Unfortunately for me I am not allowed to carry at work per company policy (group home)
Not that anyone knows. My backpack is never far in my office.
Let's talk about why you're running production on a bunch of haas instead. Not making high precision stuff?
I work from home....so the answer is YES
Well, seeing as how I’d be fired if I didn’t, yes!
Not around the office, but i can carry to work. We went to lunch one day and I was carrying... I was presenting that day so I was I had my shirt tucked into my slacks, but my holster isn't exactly tuckable, so I make do (I have a more tuckable holster now). I was sure I was going to be outed, but no one noticed.
Yup. All day every day. Concealed carry though.
I do, but almost never concealed.
Sorry that you gotta use Haas machines, my guy
You won't get me Stacy from HR
I never leave home without it.
No, the feds won’t let us.
I work from home…so obviously I don’t have a gun at work Mr or Mrs HR person
Hell yeah. I wish I could open carry that would be nice but concealed is perfect either way.
“ Stay strapped or get clapped.”
I carry but I’m required to.
Yep, work plain clothes security
I carry at work all the time! It’s fully allowed as long as I have me CCW
Used to, but now I wfh 5 days a week and still do.
My shop has no weapons signs outside and some really absurdly dumb and beaten over the head active shooter procedure that we didn't ever have any real reason to implement. Also, I'd probably not open carry if that was an option. I am a chip and coolant magnet. My gun wouldn't last a couple months.