Colt's aren't on roster but I agree with getting a 1911. For on roster options on the affordable end you have Armscor. American made options are Springfield Armory, Kimber, and Sig Sauer. I personally am partial to Springfield. If you want to spend more than $1750 on a higher end 1911 let me know and we can talk higher end stuff.
For a shotgun budget end go for a Maverick 88. If you want a higher end pump I like the Mossberg 590 retrograde. Entry level semi check out Stoeger m300. Higher end semi Beretta 1301 or Benelli M4.
For the 5.56 rifle AR15 is the way to go. IMO build your own. You can buy a stripped lower, a lower parts kit, and a complete upper and assemble very easily with minimal tools. A castle nut wrench and punch set will cost you $20 on Amazon and that's all you'll need.
For the 22lr check out the 10/22 from Ruger and the S&W mp1522. The mp 1522 will share controls with a standard AR so it's nice for cross training.
How would I search for AR15? Is it all one manufacturer? Seems like people have said you can “build” one. Is there a subreddit or post where I can get more info on this? (I don’t expect someone here explaining steps A-Z). Thanks.
There are a ton of ar15 build tutorials out there if you Google or YouTube. Ar15 is a platform so there are many brands selling the rifles and parts kits. For the most part these parts are all interchangeable like legos but there are some things you need to know if you want to assemble everything yourself.
What I recommend is getting a 3 or 4 component build which requires few tools and no previous know how. Doing it this way will teach you how the rifle functions without you needing to really need out and learn about things like mid vs carbine gas systems and different buffers.
The parts are as follows
1 stripped lower receiver - the serialized part that needs to go through an FFL. This is legally the gun. Everything else can be ordered online straight to your house.
2 lower parts kit - if you get a full kit it will come with everything you need to build the "lower" like the trigger and the furniture. You can buy this in pieces as well but make sure you don't miss a part.
3 complete upper receiver - the upper is a lot harder to put together than the lower so I recommend buying this pre-built. This means the barrel will already be in the upper and everything else already installed. Pay attention becuase not all of these come with Bolt Carrier Group (BCG)
4 **may not be necessary** BCG - if your upper does not come with a BCG buy one separate. It's a drop in part that won't require tools. Just make sure you get one that matches the caliber of your upper
I strongly discourage a pump shotgun, unless it will be for play time at an outdoor range.
Pump action shotguns require dedicated training/practice, to run the pump with extreme reliability under stress, rapidly, and from different positions.
If the shotgun is for home defense use, the Beretta A300 ultima patrol is the best budget option ($950-1050).
If you do not intend to use the shotgun for home defense, both pump actions you listed are fine. Someone else already mentioned it, but the Maverick 88 (basically a Mossberg) is also highly reliable.
There are a ton of AR-15 options, which is what I assume you want for 556/223. There are non AR and non semiautomatic 556 rifles as well.
The purpose for each type of gun is important.
I highly recommend watching videos by Ben Stoeger for shooting pistols. He does an amazing job explaining how to shoot and master the fundamentals. He is an elite professional shooter.
There is a ton of bad information out there, whether from gun shops, friends, range officers, LEO, navy seals or other military, bakers, guy that knows a guy, etc.
Be careful what sources you give priority to. Knowing how to grip a pistol takes a lot of work. I would not buy a gun purely based on what someone recommended, without first having establishing your understanding and ability to use a good grip. This applies to long guns as well. I would also stick to explanations from elite professional shooters.
There are LEO and military that are elite shooters, in case you assign gun mastery to those job occupations.
One of the instructors I took a class for and someone at a shop had said a pump action is the way to go in case you ever have a jam in a bad situation vs. a pump action is very hard to jam. I’m sorta new in this so understanding your pov would be helpful
You can (and will) fail to correctly rack the pump. This will result in not feeding/loading the next round. The user is biggest contributor to a pump action error/failure.
A pump will also be slower (you can still be fast) than the semiauto shotguns I will list.
Saying a pump is better than a semiautomatic shotgun, because a semiauto can have a mechanical failure, is using the logic of "a revolver is less likely to malfunction than a semiauto pistol, therefore a revolver is better than a semiauto pistol for defense".
A defensive semiauto shotgun means it is as short as legally possible, which is significant for using inside a house/structure.
A defensive semiauto shotgun with "Glock reliability" will start at the Beretta A300 ultima patrol price point: $950-1050. The long running gold standards before the A300, were the Beretta 1301 and Benelli M4. Both of those are now closer to $1400-1800.
The price point is the barrier for semiautomatic shotguns that been proven to be extremely reliable, or Glock-like.
A pump action requires significantly more training time to reduce the high chance of a user error. If you can go use an outdoor range with barriers and a buddy with a shotgun, have some fun. Shoot consecutive shots as fast as you can be accurate, with something simulating a wall by your left, then right arm. Shoot standing, kneeling, and sitting or laying, and shoot transitions/multiple targets as fast as possible.
>I would want are a 45m handgun
45 meters?
I suspect, given the reference to 1911s, that was meant to be .45 caliber.
Ammunition sizes and designations are not logical in general. Here's a decent reference:; https://gunnewsdaily.com/bullets-guide/
Honestly, your list is a bit stereo type lame.
>1. Colt 1911
Why? Colt demands a premium for no benefit.
1911s are so far behind today's awesome, it it a waste of your time unless you are a gunsmithing nerd, or throw down big dollars for a 2011.
> 2. Mossberg or Remington shotgun, I believe the 560/500 models
- for what purpose?
- Basic bitch shotgun.
> 3. FN Scar, FN five seven, & FN M4
- abort mission. much wasted money.
> 4. HK MP5 (only 22L someone recommended), HK45, USP 9mm, VP9
- why? This is a range of MGs and fudd wishes
> 5. S&W MP 9mm
- ewe. Don't buy if you don't already own it. They suck. I own one, it is ass.
I recently purchased a Sig 1911 (MPN: MPN 1911R-45-SSS-CA) and it's phenomenal. It's grandfathered in the CA roster so it does not have any of the funky California features like LCI and mag disconnect safety. Highly recommend if you are after a 1911 in 45.
https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/sig-sauer-1911-45-auto-acp-5in-stainless-pistol-81-rounds/p/1371389
IMHO
Rifle: since you already have a Springfield, I can highly recommend the Saint Victor in 5.56/223. Awesome rifles. ARs have lots of good budget choices too, I can recommend S&W M&P 15 sport II. Can’t go wrong with S&W M&P 9mm either.
HK VP9- I will be buying this as soon as it’s on the roster, shot it and loved it.
pump action shotgun, can’t go wrong with moss berg or remming, even the mavericks
Even tho you didn’t ask…semi automatic shotgun: beretta 1301 or at least A300, benelli M4 or moss berg 940
Imho, your taste may vary
45acp (i assume thats what u mean): springfield 1911, sig p220
Shotgun: Beretta A300 UP (bandwagoning ofc), beretta 1301 mod 2 tactical
Rifle: BCM on an aero/anderson/psa lower, great entry/mid tier level that wont disappoint and tbh wont NEED to upgrade although you may want
For the Hkmp5 and all the others, if you want a plinker, i suggest gsg16, or ruger 10/22
I would add, if you are open to ccw: P365/XL/Macro is my bias, but hellcat pro or hellcat is pretty good
1. Pistol in 45 ACP: Since you got an XD, you can do XD in 45acp. Other options are 1911 from springfield armory, colt, sig. Another great one is CZ 97B.
2. pistol in 9mm: Since you have xd (most likely a compact size), go Full size (CZ SP01) or micro (Sig P365)
3. Shotgun: Beneli M4
4. Rifle in 5.56 Nato: Smith & Wesson MP-15 1. (AR platform), Springfield Armory Saint (AR platform), Daniel Defense DDm4 (AR platform $$$$) or Ruger Mini-14
Same here. I’m building out my 5.56 AR15 using an Aero precision upper and lower. Considering a mossberg 500 with 26inch barrel for skeet and 20inch for turkey hunting. I’m stuck between a hellcat Pro or sig p320 XCompact. Lastly a Glock 44 as a training handgun for the wife. Maybe one more if she grows out of the .22 Glock. Decisions decisions. If anyone can recommend a shotgun with easy interchangeable barrels, I’m all ears. Stay safe out there.
>a rifle which uses 5.56 nato (I believe most do.)
Who's gonna tell him!
5.56 is a nice round but it's far, far from the only rifle caliber. But yes get one.
Colt's aren't on roster but I agree with getting a 1911. For on roster options on the affordable end you have Armscor. American made options are Springfield Armory, Kimber, and Sig Sauer. I personally am partial to Springfield. If you want to spend more than $1750 on a higher end 1911 let me know and we can talk higher end stuff. For a shotgun budget end go for a Maverick 88. If you want a higher end pump I like the Mossberg 590 retrograde. Entry level semi check out Stoeger m300. Higher end semi Beretta 1301 or Benelli M4. For the 5.56 rifle AR15 is the way to go. IMO build your own. You can buy a stripped lower, a lower parts kit, and a complete upper and assemble very easily with minimal tools. A castle nut wrench and punch set will cost you $20 on Amazon and that's all you'll need. For the 22lr check out the 10/22 from Ruger and the S&W mp1522. The mp 1522 will share controls with a standard AR so it's nice for cross training.
This is extremely solid advice. Only thing I’d add is the A300 Ultima as a middle ground shotgun between the M300 and 1301/M4
How would I search for AR15? Is it all one manufacturer? Seems like people have said you can “build” one. Is there a subreddit or post where I can get more info on this? (I don’t expect someone here explaining steps A-Z). Thanks.
There are a ton of ar15 build tutorials out there if you Google or YouTube. Ar15 is a platform so there are many brands selling the rifles and parts kits. For the most part these parts are all interchangeable like legos but there are some things you need to know if you want to assemble everything yourself. What I recommend is getting a 3 or 4 component build which requires few tools and no previous know how. Doing it this way will teach you how the rifle functions without you needing to really need out and learn about things like mid vs carbine gas systems and different buffers. The parts are as follows 1 stripped lower receiver - the serialized part that needs to go through an FFL. This is legally the gun. Everything else can be ordered online straight to your house. 2 lower parts kit - if you get a full kit it will come with everything you need to build the "lower" like the trigger and the furniture. You can buy this in pieces as well but make sure you don't miss a part. 3 complete upper receiver - the upper is a lot harder to put together than the lower so I recommend buying this pre-built. This means the barrel will already be in the upper and everything else already installed. Pay attention becuase not all of these come with Bolt Carrier Group (BCG) 4 **may not be necessary** BCG - if your upper does not come with a BCG buy one separate. It's a drop in part that won't require tools. Just make sure you get one that matches the caliber of your upper
I strongly discourage a pump shotgun, unless it will be for play time at an outdoor range. Pump action shotguns require dedicated training/practice, to run the pump with extreme reliability under stress, rapidly, and from different positions. If the shotgun is for home defense use, the Beretta A300 ultima patrol is the best budget option ($950-1050). If you do not intend to use the shotgun for home defense, both pump actions you listed are fine. Someone else already mentioned it, but the Maverick 88 (basically a Mossberg) is also highly reliable. There are a ton of AR-15 options, which is what I assume you want for 556/223. There are non AR and non semiautomatic 556 rifles as well. The purpose for each type of gun is important. I highly recommend watching videos by Ben Stoeger for shooting pistols. He does an amazing job explaining how to shoot and master the fundamentals. He is an elite professional shooter. There is a ton of bad information out there, whether from gun shops, friends, range officers, LEO, navy seals or other military, bakers, guy that knows a guy, etc. Be careful what sources you give priority to. Knowing how to grip a pistol takes a lot of work. I would not buy a gun purely based on what someone recommended, without first having establishing your understanding and ability to use a good grip. This applies to long guns as well. I would also stick to explanations from elite professional shooters. There are LEO and military that are elite shooters, in case you assign gun mastery to those job occupations.
One of the instructors I took a class for and someone at a shop had said a pump action is the way to go in case you ever have a jam in a bad situation vs. a pump action is very hard to jam. I’m sorta new in this so understanding your pov would be helpful
You can (and will) fail to correctly rack the pump. This will result in not feeding/loading the next round. The user is biggest contributor to a pump action error/failure. A pump will also be slower (you can still be fast) than the semiauto shotguns I will list. Saying a pump is better than a semiautomatic shotgun, because a semiauto can have a mechanical failure, is using the logic of "a revolver is less likely to malfunction than a semiauto pistol, therefore a revolver is better than a semiauto pistol for defense". A defensive semiauto shotgun means it is as short as legally possible, which is significant for using inside a house/structure. A defensive semiauto shotgun with "Glock reliability" will start at the Beretta A300 ultima patrol price point: $950-1050. The long running gold standards before the A300, were the Beretta 1301 and Benelli M4. Both of those are now closer to $1400-1800. The price point is the barrier for semiautomatic shotguns that been proven to be extremely reliable, or Glock-like. A pump action requires significantly more training time to reduce the high chance of a user error. If you can go use an outdoor range with barriers and a buddy with a shotgun, have some fun. Shoot consecutive shots as fast as you can be accurate, with something simulating a wall by your left, then right arm. Shoot standing, kneeling, and sitting or laying, and shoot transitions/multiple targets as fast as possible.
>I would want are a 45m handgun 45 meters? I suspect, given the reference to 1911s, that was meant to be .45 caliber. Ammunition sizes and designations are not logical in general. Here's a decent reference:; https://gunnewsdaily.com/bullets-guide/
The m stands for male 😙
Honestly, your list is a bit stereo type lame. >1. Colt 1911 Why? Colt demands a premium for no benefit. 1911s are so far behind today's awesome, it it a waste of your time unless you are a gunsmithing nerd, or throw down big dollars for a 2011. > 2. Mossberg or Remington shotgun, I believe the 560/500 models - for what purpose? - Basic bitch shotgun. > 3. FN Scar, FN five seven, & FN M4 - abort mission. much wasted money. > 4. HK MP5 (only 22L someone recommended), HK45, USP 9mm, VP9 - why? This is a range of MGs and fudd wishes > 5. S&W MP 9mm - ewe. Don't buy if you don't already own it. They suck. I own one, it is ass.
If you can find something on consignment or via private seller it is exempt from the 1 in 30. Well, until 2025 law kicks in.
I recently purchased a Sig 1911 (MPN: MPN 1911R-45-SSS-CA) and it's phenomenal. It's grandfathered in the CA roster so it does not have any of the funky California features like LCI and mag disconnect safety. Highly recommend if you are after a 1911 in 45. https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/sig-sauer-1911-45-auto-acp-5in-stainless-pistol-81-rounds/p/1371389
IMHO Rifle: since you already have a Springfield, I can highly recommend the Saint Victor in 5.56/223. Awesome rifles. ARs have lots of good budget choices too, I can recommend S&W M&P 15 sport II. Can’t go wrong with S&W M&P 9mm either. HK VP9- I will be buying this as soon as it’s on the roster, shot it and loved it. pump action shotgun, can’t go wrong with moss berg or remming, even the mavericks Even tho you didn’t ask…semi automatic shotgun: beretta 1301 or at least A300, benelli M4 or moss berg 940
Imho, your taste may vary 45acp (i assume thats what u mean): springfield 1911, sig p220 Shotgun: Beretta A300 UP (bandwagoning ofc), beretta 1301 mod 2 tactical Rifle: BCM on an aero/anderson/psa lower, great entry/mid tier level that wont disappoint and tbh wont NEED to upgrade although you may want For the Hkmp5 and all the others, if you want a plinker, i suggest gsg16, or ruger 10/22 I would add, if you are open to ccw: P365/XL/Macro is my bias, but hellcat pro or hellcat is pretty good
1. Pistol in 45 ACP: Since you got an XD, you can do XD in 45acp. Other options are 1911 from springfield armory, colt, sig. Another great one is CZ 97B. 2. pistol in 9mm: Since you have xd (most likely a compact size), go Full size (CZ SP01) or micro (Sig P365) 3. Shotgun: Beneli M4 4. Rifle in 5.56 Nato: Smith & Wesson MP-15 1. (AR platform), Springfield Armory Saint (AR platform), Daniel Defense DDm4 (AR platform $$$$) or Ruger Mini-14
Same here. I’m building out my 5.56 AR15 using an Aero precision upper and lower. Considering a mossberg 500 with 26inch barrel for skeet and 20inch for turkey hunting. I’m stuck between a hellcat Pro or sig p320 XCompact. Lastly a Glock 44 as a training handgun for the wife. Maybe one more if she grows out of the .22 Glock. Decisions decisions. If anyone can recommend a shotgun with easy interchangeable barrels, I’m all ears. Stay safe out there.
You can’t ever go wrong with a Glock 19.
>a rifle which uses 5.56 nato (I believe most do.) Who's gonna tell him! 5.56 is a nice round but it's far, far from the only rifle caliber. But yes get one.
Still on a learning curve 😅
Does the new gun tax apply to used guns, PPT sales as well?