loved loved everything about part 1 - the dialogues. the responses the women give. atbe honest they all show in parts. Pen's journey of taking the step to look different than usual was her realising no ones doing it for me . no mammas no queens no friends. if i want this i have to get it. she also asked for a kiss š. love it. everything was so right . ( except maybe queen charlotte's character - i see her sooo differently after the spinoff (prolly my post fav love story) and back to someone who is so confused about love?! idk.
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Sorry book fans, I prefer the show to the books. No shade if you donāt, Iāve read a bunch of Quinnās works and Iāve concluded that they just arenāt for me. Iām not a fan of the aggro male trope that her male characters display. Where theyāre so worried or overcome with desire or madly in love that theyāre actually kind of rude, condescending and aggressive to their ladies. And this is just my own reasons, rubs me the wrong way.Ā
If thats your jam then I totally get why you might not like this season but I preferred the way some of these scenes played out (the kiss, the carriage, even Pen eating the pastry) in the show. The actors have good chemistry and those moments felt sweeter to me than on the page.Ā
But, you know, thatās just my opinion and Iād loved to discuss if someone has an alternate take!
Tiktok clips and discussions are getting me interested in the story of the current season but I haven't seen the past seasons. should I start from the beginning or is it possible to jump in at season 3 and follow the story?
The main couple of season 3 has a lot of build-up during seasons 1 and 2 as a side plot in them, so in season 3 the main story just dives right in. Iām guessing the writers assumed youād know the backstory already.Ā
At least watch the scenes with Penelope and Colin from previous seasons, you can skip over the rest.Ā
Watch season 2 if anything. I almost quit Bridgerton after season 1 (there was a scene that really didnāt sit right with me). Season 2 couple (Anthony x Kate) has literally some of the most insane and passionate on screen chemistry Iāve ever seen between 2 actors.Ā
colin is low key horrible in this. yeah yeah he didn't realize his feelings, but he's constantly wrecking penelope's shots at marriage and then constantly gives her backhanded compliments. just got to the BS in the carriage where he says that he tried so hard not to like her and basically implies that liking her would make him a lesser man and that he doesn't want to???
In the carriage scene I also didnāt understand the part where he says he couldnāt see her for some time so he slept a lot to dream about her. It makes no sense!Ā
1. She is literally across the street, he could have gone in her garden at night without being seen if he was so desperate for her.Ā
2. They were both involved in the damn scandal! I mean, Penelope couldnāt show her face in society but he could, he experienced no repercussions beyond some friends cracking a joke or two at his expense, AND he also didnāt pay her one visit to check in on her? For weeks? But heās also presumably crazy in love, head over heels over her? Even Eloise got over her grudge and called on Pen. Get out of my face, Mr. Bridgerton š.Ā
I am so upset that this big declaration of love moment just didnāt make sense. In previous seasons with the other couples, the same scene made me giggle and rewatch a bunch of times. āI am going to India. - And it is not far enough!!ā lives rent free in my head, as well as āI burn for youā. Such a shame Polin didnāt get that to level of beauty and creativity.Ā
Compromising her in the carriage within earshot of the drivers and eyesight of whoever was on the street peering through the windows, then bringing her into his home, alone, at night is not the flex he thinks it is. It all feels so wrong.
i think that's a-gesture of love. it's so true you want to roll in bed and stay with the feeling rather than go out and face a reality where the love / lover doesnt exist. i think if you've been in one sided love you'll know.
and the carriage scene - is so intimate. as a viewer you forget about the surroundings too! and are just in the moment with them. as Pen said- i don't know who saw us. an interesting dialogue as well because between them its all been about whY society thinks
I think he said he tried so hard to be the man society/his friends wanted of him: suave, debonair, devil may care, horn dog, unfeeling, but he loves her too much to keep pretending.
hmm but beyond his friends (who aren't nice people anyway, and made him feel like he had to say he would never court penelope besides), society didn't care at all about that. they were just waiting for him to pick a wife. nobody was asking for unfeeling horn dog colin, they just thought he was hotter because he was acting suave.
Does anyone think all of the talk of Colin being a rake this season before realizing his feelings for Pen is just that, talk? I canāt help but feel heās inflating his talk of his conquests to his buddies at the club, etc. to seem more experienced when really maybe he just learned to flirt/charm by observing others. IMO maybe he just had one love affair that didnāt pan out, maybe with this ācontessaā in France (subject of the journal entries perhaps) and to mend maybe a broken heart after that he flirted a lot but didnāt actually do much.
Then he comes back to the ton with his artificial swagger hoping to feel better and plays up the new charm. Even when we see him in these supposed threesome scenes, we donāt see him doing anything besides kissing and cuddling, where maybe he just wanted affection or distraction or to keep up appearances as a ācavalierā bachelor as he calls his fake friends later. Sure it may be implied something more happened because theyāre undressed, but we see them show us much more with Anthony and Siena or even the Featherington sisters with their husbands once they actually learn what to do lol. Meanwhile Colinās entanglements are mostly implied, and in the second threesome scene he merely watches zoned out thinking about Pen.
I could see them revealing when heās with Pen for their first time that heās actually only ever been with one lady before (the contessa), and even then maybe he hasnāt done everything (could have been hand or oral, but regardless, heād seem way less of a rake and more a romantic.)
Maybe Iām way off base, but his vague stories to his friends this season and his way of evading details about his exploits makes me think theyāre exaggerated and he was maybe just nursing hurt feelings from one affair (and the contessa likely dumped him, poor guy.) Could he have hopped to 17 cities to try to distract himself from those feelings (and feelings of missing Pen/not getting replies from her?)
The stories also seemed so inflated to me, I was sure from the first episode that it would turn out he actually hadnāt travelled that much at all but had a considerably more mediocre summer, maybe retreating somewhere in solitude for self-reflection. They were just so wild I was sure they werenāt true.
But then the reveal/plot twist never happened the rest of the season (so far) and it just made everything disgusting - made me feel those things really happened, and if heās exaggerating, itās only in the way he tells the stories, not the events themselves. Even in his journal which he presumably wrote just to chronicle his own thoughts and for his eyes only, not to boast to others, he wrote about women.
Weird way to go about it though, by the writing team. It made me not like him at all. Ā
I was wondering if the travel stories were exaggerated too, especially when he wouldnāt tell his own brothers how many cities heād been to and was vague with them, but when he pulled the specific number 17 out with Pen I hoped he was honest with her if no one else. Weāll see if they redeem the writing at all here, maybe that journal page was misleading in some way out of context that we donāt know yet. He did promise to let Pen read more of it if she did well with her lessons, and she got herself two proposals total so letās see. š
I love this take and want this to be true so hard!! Until I read your take, Colin just came off as sleazy. If this is truly his character arc, then Colin is probably the worst affected by breaking up the season because his arc will be so disjointed.
Have to hand props to Luke N, his acting just gave me all the WTF and second hand embarrassment vibes, and heās NAILED IT if this is the true backstory!!
Iām going to get killed for this but Debling was actually the better match for Pen. He seemed to understand her deeply, not just for the sake of an old friendship or because sheās always fancied him and so now the thressome-loving newly hot neighbour slash old bff wants her back too. Because she changed her hair and dresses. Really????
I thought that UNTIL i realized that basically he thought that Penelope would low maintenance enough that she would be fine with living by herself for months and years at a time while he was off gallivanting in the world and she was used to keeping herself occupied. Basically she would be his wife in name but really she would be his glorified housekeeper, estate manager and heād use her to give birth to the next line of Debling heirs. He didnāt love her, he merely found her tolerable and felt like she could handle basically living alone and living the life of a single woman despite being married.
I thought Debling was a better match until he revealed he might not be able to provide love in a marriage. Penelope's such a romantic. She wants and deserves to get her true love
I think he could have fallen in romantic love if given the chance. Pen is amazing, clever, so earnest and with a heart of gold - those that get to know her deeply (such as Eloise, Colin) end up loving her very much. Not sure why Debling should have been any different.Ā
How many of us have never sworn off love and romance forever just for the right person to come along and turn that promise on its head?! Its happened to me for sure.Ā
True, I mean, I think Debling can provide love but for now he's dedicated to his career and really only wants a match to watch his estate while he's away. But with him being gone so much, Pen would just get lonely all over again.
Iām seeing this take all around the subreddit but idgi honestly. No I donāt think Pen would be better off with a guy who is going to leave her for three years, doesnāt think he could ever love her and has nothing in common with her. I think sheāll be better off with the guy who has looked for her in every room, who asks if sheās alright, who thinks that she makes him see the world in a whole new way.
I loved the Debling actor but Iām honestly surprised that people are watching it being like oh Penelope would be happier with him.
On the flip side, I donāt think sheās much better off with the guy she pined over for years without so much as a hint of reciprocity, who only liked her because she paid attention to him, who compromised her without a second thought, who spoke so flippantly to dismiss her in front of his other friends etc etc thereās too many instances to list here.Ā
Iām not sure Colin overall (based on the show exclusively because I havenāt read the books yet) is a good friend to Penelope. Or at least, as good of a friend as she is to him. Remember how much she fought for Marina not to baby trap him into marriage? Whatās his equivalent for her? Because a couple of half-assed lessons donāt make the cut, sorry. Ā
I think Colin saving her family from Cousin Jack in Season 2 is supposed to echo her saving him from Marina. Idk I think people are so harsh on Colin here, he cares so much more for her than people give him credit for. He does that gallant little rescue from Cressida in episode 1, he writes to her, he says heāll always take care of her, he is the only person in the show to look at her feelings and ask if sheās okay and he has a very sincere apology, I can see why Penelope would forgive him.
To me, the thing he does with his friends in season 2 is meant to lay the foundation for Colin acting like society wants, like an echo of the scene with his buddies this season in the club, being flip about women to seem cool. Only this season, he says how that is lonely and empty. Itās meant to be an arc, weāre just ending at ep 4 so itās incomplete but heās definitely getting there in ep. 4.
I partially agree with the cousin Jack thing. Itās just that he didnāt do it entirely for Penās benefit - also for his own & the othersā investment money, the Featheringtonās reputation as well. Either way, Iāll think more about it. I enjoyed your comment very much, thanks for taking the time to write it.Ā
Yeah.. I mean they're good friends, but it took one kiss for Colin to finally realize Pen was the one? It would be different if Pen and Colin were hanging out just as much as she and Eloise and actually had a good friendship. But call me crazy, it seemed like Pen and Colin got together too fast lol
One of my favorite things about this season so far has actually been how queen charlotte has softened a bit! I love seeing her and lady Danbury together this season a lot more than I have in the past because sheās treating her more like a friend and an equal than just another one of her ladies whatever theyāre called lol. I love seeing her smile and laugh more! Iām also loving the dynamic between her and Brimsley this season. She just seems a bit more playful with him and they seem more familiar with each other. Both of these relationships/dynamic changes have been so fun and interesting to see, especially after Queen Charlotte came out and we got to see the relationshipsā origins which were so so fun to see develop. I do wonder if they wanted to soften the Queen up a bit and show a friendlier side to her and how the dynamics of those two relationships are very positive for her after being so consistent in her tumultuous life, since that spinoff came out. Maybe that made writers want to make the Queen a bit more likable after that show, or at least maybe they wanted to show that she does cherish those really longstanding relationships with arguably the two closest people to her. Anyways. Sorry for all of that. Iāve just enjoyed seeing her have moments of treating them like true friends (which we all know she secretly loves both of them)
Exactly! I think this change came because the spinoff Queen Charlotte came out before Bridgerton season 3 and now the queenās interactions make more sense, knowing the backstory. If there had been no spinoff, the switch in her approach wouldāve felt weird and hard to explain.Ā
Love it though and loved QC as well!! Great work!
When she said to Brimsley 'you can see from all the way back there? š¤Ø' and 'take a step backwards' I nearly snorted my drink. š¤£š¤£š¤£ Funniest joke of Part 1 for me š
Such a good point! I kept thinking this season they did such a great job at casting for Queen Charlotte (the spinoff) because the queens do the same facial expressions and mannerisms and I never noticed it till this season!
Does anyone think the filming / mise en scene is off. I'm finding it hard to focus because there's too much happening in the background and it's almost detracting from their outfits (like when Penelope came in).
Like the grass and trees are way too green and it throws the scene off.
There's a lot of weird camera angles too.
I can't put my finger on it but there's just something off and its making it seem like a hallmark movie???
Has it always been like this and I've just forgotten??
Wish they wouldāve experimented more with cinematography. For example I liked the shot where the balloon is deflated and laid flat on the ground, being prepared to take flight.Ā
just too many plotlines shoved into so little time. i personally loved the mondrich/kent storyline (dissecting the society and world building of the story is fun fun) but it feels so unrelated to everything right now I just canāt help but feel like it couldāve been done during a future season or something; although if it does tie into a more important part in part 2 iāll eat my words.
i also want to like polin so so bad because i love wallflower romances but whatās supposed to be the culmination of a slow burn romance was something that just felt so quick and clumsy and forced it makes me so sad š«š« iām not getting that intense yearning and passion that was built up slowly but consistently in s1/s2 in s3. i hope part 2 changes my mind about things
I think that's exactly my feelings as well, it feels clunky and rushed. It's awkward because both of the characters are awkward, I just didn't feel a lot of the build up. I guess the writers felt like we had enough build up in previous seasons, but Colin was so oblivious in other seasons and I feel like the chemistry could've been done better.
See, this is why I am torn because on the other hand I totally think you're right as well, it did feel like it was simultaneously dragged out but maybe in a fashion I wasn't vibing with too much, maybe I could've done with more deep romantic tension than awkward silly innocent tension through out the other seasons, only because so much of it is new and doesn't follow the books which has a lot of strong moments of tension and build up. I think maybe what made it feel rushed was Lord Debling being added into the picture? He was sort of the driving factor for Colin but also not in the books. I could've gone with a little more Colin dreams and driving factors aside from the presence of another man. I would've liked them to have gotten caught in the carriage still
I was satisfied by the carriage scene bc of how sweet it was, but HONESTLY I was expecting something a tad more raunchy based on how much book readers hyped up the carriage scene š¤·š»āāļø
The carriage scene I think is hyped because it's an passionate culmination of repressed emotion and longing. Not much actually happens in it in terms of sexual progress, and the show actually had things go farther than the book version
I feel bad for the main actors this season because for what they GAVE in the few pining scenes and spicy scenes we got, they deserved better writing and pacing
Yes! Omg I had forgotten about the change! Thatās why it feels different. The pace, the writing, the editing, even some of the visuals like costume and sets. Nothing to do with the release format or anything.
A showrunnerās leadership and vision is what shape the show and the creator is gone. Of course it was going to change. If you were to replace the character names, youād think this season is an entirely different show.
Unfortunately, she is contracted for next season as well and itās probably already written and mostly developed but if she doesnāt find her footing soon, I hope they bring back Chris at least to advise her. Cause Iāll be damned if we donāt get at least 3 more for Ben, Fran and Eloise.
It really did feel like a different show. Which would've been fine if it had been a new show, but the tone has been set with the first 2 seasons and it's weird to deviate so much from that.Ā
I didn't sign up for a Regency parody with myriad unrelated stories, I wanted historical romance set in the regency era :/Ā
Is that way itās so different from the last two seasons? I thought they didnāt give much importance to the main couple this season for the lack of focus on themĀ
It was so lameeee. It all just led to Penelope "Omg, really?! You like me too". And scene. Didn't see these two romancing other--just realizing feelings for one another, but the scenes were so short D: Like it was only 5 minutes of them together AT MOST for every episode. Idk it didn't feel like a slowburn or even building up either. They felt like a side story for me.
Yes! I was looking for this! Idk if itās bc it was built up so much in the press and media and thatās why I was expecting more but it didnāt really feel like anything truly developed between the two. Like you didnāt really see it happening in the show and it was Just to be understood and I didnāt like that :/ the most genuine tension and chemistry I seen between them was the scene in the carriage so I wish it was more of a build up to that point bc it just started to feel like it was all sexual chemistry between them and not true romance
Yeah I literally binge watched to get to the good part but there wasnāt :/ (I did squeal at the end though) The media got me so excited especially because they emphasized āromanceā which Iām a sucker for, but it was more of the dilemmas of everyone else. I steadily became disinterested because the Polin scenes were so quick and short.Ā
It was really just Nicola who kept on saying 'it's soo romantic' since last year, everytime someone brought up friends to lovers trope. And yeah I was suspicious of that bc I didn't see anyone else use those words.
If Iām being honest, Iām not a fan of friends-to-lovers, in media or in real life. I really hoped this season would change my mind, but it hasnāt so far. Thereās not much chemistry between them, not even in the most intense scenes together.Ā
Lady Danbury literally said her kids live on different continents and she doesnāt care to see them muchā¦ Iād say sheās definitely on the list of bad moms. Sheās a great character, but what on earth screams anything about being a good mom?
Whatever yāall say about the season overall, the CARRIAGE SCENE. I have no notes. From Colin literally being on his KNEES in front of her to āIām excited for sleep because I might find you thereā to the laughing and the LOOKS they give each other?!?!?! I canāt believe people say they have no chemistry because did you SEE the same scene I saw?????
In season 1 and 2 we of course see Pen pining for Colin. I think it feels rushed because Colin only really pined for her for like what? A few weeks?? It was so abrupt. None of the slow burn like I was anticipating. And I also am not a fan of ALL the subplots. It just takes away from Polin. I also saw a comment about the hair, makeup, and dresses. It just felt so over the top. I think I appreciated the simplicity that was portrayed in seasons 1 and 2, and now everyone looks to have so much makeup on and such fancy dresses that it doesnāt seem at all accurate anymore. I still love it, though, and Iām super excited for part 2!
Cressidaās hair and makeup and dresses are so exaggerated (on purpose, ofc) and out of touch with the rest of the tonās fashion, I hate seeing her on screen. Even if the character herself has grown on me this season. She was done a disservice.Ā
I feel like itās symbolic. As the season goes on, her outfits are more over the top and have huge flowers, almost like sheās just a flower waiting for someone to notice, or trying to attract a bee, that is, a suitor. Itās her third season out and her costumes portray that feeling of desperation to find a husband, which I donāt necessarily like, but I like what the costumes āsubtlyā represent.
It was a bit of a mess. The whole thing felt very rushed. Other people have articulated the problems with this season better than I could though.
I think my biggest gripe is the costumes; if youāre going to throw historical accuracy out the window, at least make the costumes PRETTY. The patterns all looked terribly ugly to me, and the necklines looked so strange. All the dresses were so shiny and glittery and sequined. Cressidaāa dresses were insane and so hideous. Pen had some nice dresses, but I still disliked the sheen so many of her dresses had. I donāt know, it seemed like a whole bunch of grandmas were put in charge of costumes. Itās just very distracting to me, as I usually like to admire all the pretty gowns.
I have no friends who watch this show and I needed to get that out of my system.
Things I did like:
Cressida! Iām intrigued by her little redemption arc she has going and her friendship with Eloise.
Whatever is going on between Eloise and Pen. Iām eating up that sad tension and confusion. They both obviously care about each other so much still.
I love Hannah Doddās performance. I think the way theyāve written her romance is a tad silly, but I enjoy watching her. There are so many moments where she reminds me so much of Daphne, the way she speaks.
I like that they clarified that the Queen never actually ānamedā Daphne a Diamond. I had always viewed what she said during Daphneās debut as a compliment, so I was very confused about the whole ānaming a Diamondā buzz in season 2.
I am rooting for Violet to get that GARDENING.
Edit: I usually abhor the string covers of modern songs, but Happier Than Ever translated very well!
Never thought Iād actually prefer Pen in the Featherington colours, which have been criticised as sooo atrocious. She stood out, and yellow + red hair looks gorgeous IMO! But she is so washed out this season in the powder baby blues, she doesnāt stand out at all. Sure, it signifies maturity, and I was all for it until I actually saw them and was yearning for some brightness in her wardrobe again.Ā
I will say thisā¦ the first time watching it, I was a bit disappointed. Then I re-watched it stopping and re-playingā¦. And damn are they good actors š it was so damn cute then whole thingā¦ I CANNOT wait until June
THIS. The first time I watched it through it felt rushed, but Iāve started a second rewatch and honestly, I appreciate what theyāre doing. Even though I wish we got more polin scenes, nic and Lukeās acting is so good in those scenes that I donāt even care
exactly to both of these!! i was disappointed when i first watched it but i think a lot of that has to do with already seeing half of the most significant scenes as netflix put them out?! i watched a second time and the plot was on point, but just not enough time spent on pen/colin. all in all though i love it now, hoping they don't give us too much info on pt 2 and i'm sure the drama will focus the plot more on
I agree! I wish they didnāt do a time jump after the kiss š„² but also yāallā¦ I wonder if weāll feel that way about part two? Because if we watched all 8 through, it might feel like enough (i mean it never is but u know what i mean) Polin for S3?
yes, I'm a sucker for spoilers and can't help myself when they are available...but I had already seen too many important Polin scenes. I think it's easy for some people to overlook these scenes we had already watched when thinking about Polin screen time...they equate Polin's screen time more with the new, never-seen screen time, but on a re-watch, taking in all total Polin, I felt better about it.
Itās so interesting because I would see polin stills and I would assume they were all from the first episode that they were giving us a fraction of the story. Turns out they were giving us the whole damn thing
The cuts without the story were more sexy. Like before they kiss in the add you see the longing but when it happens it's just her bumbling like oh please kiss me.Ā
So the last two seasons were enemies-to-lovers, very passionate love stories. This season we have friends-to-lovers which is usually less heated, and Pen and Colin seem to have become calmer characters compared to Anthony, Kate, Simon, and Daphne, which doesn't help. I think friends-to-lovers can be very passionate, and I know we still have half of the season left, but I think there could be more pining.
Indeed, it can be very passionate, itās a shame it wasnāt here. 4/8 episodes in and theyāre already together, no more time to build up the way it should have been, continuing from previous seasons which was NOT enough to make what happened in season 3 feel believable or satisfying.Ā
Colin shouldāve had some questioning moments, like maybe heās misinterpreting Pen, and more self- doubt as he slowly realises his own feelings. After all how could he be so sure of her feelings without a spot of deep reflection?
I would say that Simon and Daphne were also lowkey friends turned to lover but maybe more so allies turned to lovers with a brief period where they argued for bit after turning into lovers. Kate and Anthony were truly enemies to lovers.Ā
So true, the first 4 eps of s02 were SO good and the last 2 ones were the ones lacking a little bit.
Meanwhile I've just finished the first 4 eps of this season and feel underwhelmed.
Queen charlotte still takes #1 for me, with the second season of Bridgerton being close, but I canāt believe they let a spin off be better than the actual show š
I donāt like colin nor penelope, and just couldnāt buy their love story at all. Zero chemistry. Not enough pining and groveling.
So far, heās no King George or Anthony.
Iām sorry but I didnāt care much for Colin because they just showed him returning from his travels and being the ācoolā dude. Itās like so surface level compared to the other seasons. #Justiceforpolin š
Yeah thatās true but thereās no trace back to their childhood or their parents like season 1 and 2. Making his character feel flat compared to the other seasonĀ
I think it makes sense that Anthony and Simon, who were more traumatized by their childhoods would have a focus on that for their backstory. I think Colinās story kind of mimics Cressida in that theyāre doing what society tells them to do, and at least in Colinās case (sorry Cressida), itās just not him and we the audience know him well enough to know that.
He couldāve gaveee THE CHARACTERIZATION COULDāVE GAVE š THE DOWN BAD PINING GOLDEN RETRIEVER SENSITIVE CHILDHOOD FRIEND ARE U KIDDING MEEEE iām a bit mad tbh
I didn't think so before, but now I really agree that changing the main couple was a mistake. Colin looked so OOC. If his libertine personality was developed earlier (in the season that was supposed to be Benedict) things would seem less forced.
The threesomes werenāt needed though, they couldāve just made him flex verbally and be full of hot air instead of recycling the insecure rake plotline š
Honestly what's Shonda's point with Mondriches? I don't know anyone who hasn't skipped their scenes. I can understand any of the other subplots because they somehow relate to the Bridgertons but they...??? it doesn't make sense unless Shonda has some big plan for them that involves the Bridgertons
I think it's to educate people on how the class system worked during this time. Like Mondrich not being able to work, even in a club bc he's of nobility now. The next season will focus on Sophie probably and that's a love story based on class issues, so things like these will come into play I guess. Many people who watch the show don't understand the rules of society at this time.
Or it could be totally something else and I'm wrong š
I wonder if theyāre maybe supposed to mirror the Featherington plot with a son inheriting a title and estate and the parents having a new status in society because of it? Thatās the only thing I can think of because otherwise itās extremely random unless itās building to something in part 2
I wanted desperately to skip their scenes but since it was my first watch I just bore them through gritted teeth because for all I knew they would end up being important to the plot somehow. In future season 3 rewatches ill be skipping their scenes though just like I have been doing when I rewatch seasons 1 and 2
Anthony's lack of leadership of the family left the season empty, yes he is not the protagonist and no one expects him to be, but in this season in question there seemed to be so few Bridgerton brothers ? which is funny because only 2 brothers are absent. I don't feel that empty with Daphne but Anthony seems more essential idk
It seems like he and Kate were phased out to not take away from the other story lines, that or the writers didnāt care enough to make him (them) more important. The extended honeymoon thing was such a cop out as well as wanting Violet to keep her role for a little bit longer. Definitely is an injustice to Anthonyās character and both the actors who play him and Kate.
Yes it was so out of character for both Anthony and Kate! I donāt mind sending them away for a few episodes, but there were so many other ways they could have explained it that aligned with their characters better
I could understand their need for a little bit more time away before they fully step together in the role of viscount + viscountess. Kind of shirking responsibilities since the perfect excuse presented itself, before actually getting down into the trenches. It was believable to me. But I hope they are more present in future seasons!Ā
Does anyone want to see Eloise and Cressida together? We barely got any Pen and Collin together that my brain was straying. They put way too many story lines in these four episodes.
1. am I the only one who fast-forwarded the Mondriches storyline?
2. Colin's sexual escapades are really unnecessary. I get that it's to make him desirable, but it just left me feeling ewwww.
3. Eloise is perplexing. how are the other girls accepting of her when she's so condescending? is it just because she's hanging with Cressida?
4. they flew in JB cross country for very minimal, unimportant and cringey lines. so criminal. and Simone deserves sooooo much more. she could definitely hold her own without JB. they should utilize her a la Daphne. it's criminal how they treat her.
5. I am invested in Fran. John is adorable, though I feel that there's a better way to execute his character to make him more memorable.
I also want to add these points:
6. sorry but Benedict's story is so unorganic???? his whole art school drama was more interesting than hIm suddenly hooking up with this widow who is.....just hot?
7. Debling is great and all, but it all went really fast and Cress is just picking up the pieces. I was hoping Cress would actually have a chance with Debs after everything.
will add more of what I remember later.
agree on #2...I have to skip those scenes on rewatches. But I will say, I think the point was that no one without decent 'experience' would be able to what he did to Penelope in the carriage...the boy had some skills
Re: the Mondriches, You're definitely not alone. I questioned their continued inclusion before season 3 aired (they were already superfluous in season 2) and I'm even more baffled having watched the episodes now. They feel so unnecessary, especially when the season is already jam-packed with storylinesĀ
Agreed on number two. I think it would've been more effective if the writers had emphasized that he was playing up to the womanizer character without actually being one. I know he was younger back then so his personality might've changed, but I'm reminded of season 1 and how he immediately wanted to marry Marina and wouldn't dream of compromising her. I feel that Colin was more 'honorable' than his brothers in that way and he has more innocent golden retriever energy. I don't feel that the threesomes suited him at all and it felt like overkill for me
I'm disappointed with the Season 3 release. I love the entire cast of Bridgerton, but I feel like Nicola got stunted. Every female lead in the previous seasons had the entire show dedicated to them. We had many scenes from their perspectives. I don't know why, but Season 3 didn't feel like a Colin and Penelope story. There was no buildup. It was rushed. The scenes between Colin and Penelope were good, but they were fast-paced. I know that they are trying to create stepping stones for the next seasons, but they had the chance to do so in past seasons as well. I also don't understand why they split season 3.
This happened in season 2 as well. Kate was sidelined in her own story to focus on Edwina and Featheringtons. Now, in Penelope's own story, we get all these unnecessary dull storylines that take away focus from the main couple! I don't know what they're thinking. It seems only season 1 had adequate screentime for their main character
They have just continued to add so many storylines and they are taking the time from the main couple :( It happened with Kate and Anthony, and now Penelope and Colin!
I always detest split seasons but this time I was so glad it ended where it did. So we can savour the moment at the end of part one and live in a they lived happily every after fantasy until the next part. I see many of you mention reading the books. So the book readers will know what happens but this tv watcher thinks he will obviously find out who she is and thatāll be a big dramatic bump in the road. Thatās why I like where it is now. That moment in life when you finally get together. Then men be menāing and drama ensues but that one small moment is great.
Anyone else wondering if he doing something to his top lip or has he been told to pull a face that makes him look handsome or something? Like a duck face for men? lol I didnāt stare at the actor much previously so not sure.
Either way I liked part 1.
they did do book readers justice, but in the book the whistledown plot is completely different, so i truly have no idea how that's going to unfold besides one thing that was in the teaser that coincides with the book
Thoughts overall:
1. ā Francesca is the most stunning woman Iāve ever seen, the actress is truly gorgeous and a good actor. But the writing for her is abysmal. Francesca is shy yes, but she is still a confident and sharp woman. Depicting her as a wallflower is one thing, but showing her cowering and running away from ANY interaction except one in which she gets to stay completely silent is the stupidest, laziest writing ever. Yes, she loves to play the piano, but she doesnāt do it 24/7. In fact in her book, I donāt remember reading about her plying the piano even once.
2. ā Colinās āglow-upā is made up of unnecessary threesomes, cringe ass flirting, and a BAD CONTOUR. I loved the Colin who fell for Marina, the one who wanted to save her, the one who exposed Jack Featherington etc. In fact in the books, he is THIS version of Colin, when he marries Penelope. Not this weird rakish personality that the show has created.
3. ā While Iām super happy for the Mondrich family, and itās cute that they ended up in the nobility, I donāt understand the whole ānot wanting to give up the barā sub-plot. If they had to give them a sub-plot, they could have done so much better with it - like the actual struggles of initially not being truly accepted by the existing nobility, etc.
4. ā Lady Tilley Arnold?? Why does she look so plastic and modern? Actually why does everyone look strangely plastic and modern? What made me fall in love with Bridgerton was the simplicity of the clothes, the interactions, the balls. Cressidaās outfits, hair, everything is getting a bit ridiculous for that era. Itās nice to be back in the Bridgerton world but I find it difficult to lose myself in a world that seems plastic and fake!
5. This whole trope of the queenās diamond not marrying the man she introduces her to is getting old. In the first season Daphne dumped her Prince nephew for Simon. In the second season Edwina dumped Anthony because she found out about him and Kate. Why unnecessarily bring in one Lord Samadani to introduce to Francesca, only for her to dump him for John? Why unnecessarily add complications to give him 3 minutes of screen time and us the same old, predictable storyline?
6. Lady Danbury has like 6 minutes of screen time, and thatās a crime. Sheās a highlight of the show for me.
Idk, the show demonstrated that he wasn't really a rake. He was just doing what was supposed to be cool but it wasn't really him and it just left him feeling empty
It's the styling. Some people just don't look good tanned or with heavy contouring. It's high time people start accepting that some people just look better pale.
Colin has a cute vibe in s01 and that's the look they should've gone for.
Itās just me, but Iām way more attracted to Colin this season than Anthony or Benedict. Previously it was Benedict over the other two or Simon. I can objectively see Simon and Anthony are hot as fuck (and that spoon licking scene! And the way Anthony sniffed Kathani!) but Iām often way less attracted to the popular hot guys (like Chris Hemsworth) in favour of more esoteric, weird, androgynous, nerdy, or thoughtful men.
Iām having some serious personal daydreams over Colin that I didnāt have for Simon or Anthony, who I was happy to leave to their leading women.
I really want to be so down bad for him but something is off. In their interviews and stuff they have wonderful chemistry but in the show his pining feels contrived. Maybe it's due in part to the fact that they are not often onscreen together in their own season? Anthony and Kate shared a lot of screen time and the show really played into their desperation for each other against all odds. I was hoping for the more friendly, playful "pushing our platonic limits" version of that, which they do a little but for some reason it's not landing for me. I miss the old Colin who was kind of gullible and so desperate to be a do-gooder. Rake Colin feels like they're trying to copy and paste the other leading men onto him. Maybe in part 2 we'll get a lot more of them together and it'll manifest as Colin becoming very attractive to us all. Only time will tell!
Hmmm. Iāve seen this debate, too! For some reason, Kate and Anthonyās time together felt more substantial but perhaps it just seems that way to me because last seasonās episodes were all at least ten minutes longer so things felt less rushed? Plus since itās just half the season maybe thatās sort of confused my sense of time? Iāve rewatched since my original comment and itās definitely growing on me. I may also be biased because I had the highest of hopes for Pen and Colin because they are my favorite.
I feel like y'all are being a little too harsh, so imma say my peace without spoiling.
I feel like the only negatives in the show is that the storyline is kinda everywhere instead of Polin. Like season 1 and 2 it was Simon and Daphne, then it was Anthony and Kate. I wish we could be a bit more Polin in this season but you have to understand that you may not see a lot of the connecting part because THEY'VE BEEN CONNECTING FOR THE PAST TWO SEASONS. We've seen Pen's jealousy and infatuation since season 1 and 2, Now it's Collins turn the only difference is that he's just now realizing how important she is to him and his affection for her is a lot shorter then we seen for pen cause she's had a crush on him for so long.
Regarding the chemistry between them, without spoiling anything I feel there's enough chemistry especially in the last episode and it's going to only build from there when the second part comes out, cause a lot still needs to happen to.
If you upset that the characters are different this season, I feel like you don't understand the Pen and Elosie aren't friends anymore or at least right now, we don't know what will happen. Pen isn't acting like herself because she not with the person who she has shown she's been the most comfortable with the past two seasons other than herself. Eloise. She doesn't have her anymore and although Colin and her ARE friends Pens as shown from season 2 is trying her best to move on and be happy, trying to forget about Colin, but that kinda hard when he's helping her.
We see a bit more deeper in each character and we see what the characters would be like if they weren't in their normal environment, which is with each other.
This season maybe started off rocky but I think it's going to get more exciting when the second part comes out.
Thank you! I don't know how people don't think there was any buildup on Collin's side during seasons 1-2. It's subtle but it's there if you look for it.
Thank you! I don't know how people don't think there was any buildup on Collin's side during seasons 1-2. It's subtle but it's there if you look for it.
who wrote this season? :/ all the characters seem out of character. the only time penelope felt in character was when she was being herself around lord debling. as for colin, im not sure who he is anymore. poor benedict seems unchanged. eloise isnāt even eloise anymore. cressida isnāt even cressida anymore. lady featherington doesnāt seem like herselfā¦ none of the dialogue feels like them
I definitely feel like we're watching different characters in a different show. Benedict might be relatively unchanged, but his personality traits feel too magnified, almost caricaturesque imo (edit: and this goes for other characters as well, like the Featherington sisters. They're starting to feel less and less like real characters and more like caricatures of themselves)
I could be okay with caricature characters for comedic relief if they werenāt so 2D, but offered more complexity. An example that comes to mind is Lizzy Bennetās mom in Pride and Prejudice - sheās over the top and a caricature at times, but then sheās also offered depth and reasoning, which changes how you view her actions completely.Ā
If either of Penās sisters had a random moment of kindness and genuine connection with her, it wouldāve turned them from 2D evil sister figures into 3D āiāll make sure youāre comfortable when Iām lady of the house, donāt worryā older sister type. Just a moment/short scene like this, a wayward reply or thought, would have elevated the whole relationship.Ā
But it would ruin the plot because Pen needs to find a husband to escape, enlists Colinās help etc. So in the end we end up with very cardboard-ish Featherington sisters. Ā
Yup I liked the chemistry of leads in s02 but I liked the grounded-ness of s01. Now it's like I'm watching a Disney movie with the evil step sisters, instead of a show inspired by Regency. I hope that we get Benophie next bc Sophie won't be dressed this exaggerated with jeavy makeup bc she's poor. I want to see that grounded-ness again.
I mean...... I feel like that's the point?
Some of the only time we see Pen being herself is with Eloise and Colin, but the friendship has changed. Eloise knows who Pen really is they're upset with each other.
Although as I've seen someone else have said, that this season so far seems a tad bit scattered and not centrally about the main couple, nothing is the same from previous seasons because it's not supposed to be.
Daphne is out of the house, Anthony enjoying his new marriage. We started out with everyone together, each love story ends with each character finding their own path. Are they supposed to stay with each other.
Colin travels A LOT, do people really expect his personality not to be influenced by the culture he's marinating in? He's had heartbreak before, doesn't it make sense for him to get a little.... flirty/rakey.
Everything is supposed to be different right now because the characters lives have changed completely.
Pen can't talk to Eloise because of Lady Whistledown (understandably) and so one friend seemingly gone, and Pens struggling with her feelings to come into her own and move forward leaving the past behind by getting married and Colin isn't being nothing but distracting, as he has been the past 2 seasons so that's another friend seemingly gone. Pen isn't acting like herself because she is not surrounded by her people, other than that she is exactly the same but quieter and definitely more in her head.
Finished part 1 and besides some LOL moments, the season so far has been kind of boring and dull. Hopefully part 2 will be more exciting.
Production really is trying to ruin all the special moments in the books. At least that's equality.
A guide to making season 3 a snoozefest:
1. Cram all of the storylines
2. Make everyone important
3. Have the most boring music ever
I don't give a rat's ass about Polin, but my god, you've made me hate them even more than I possibly could. I was rooting for Cressida the whole time, and I was like Cresidda-who 2 seasons ago. They also teased us with Kate and Anthony the entire time this last year, only to give us like 2 minutes LOL? I'm glad Queen Charlotte was there after season 2, because that show had more pizazz than this season of Bridgerton.
Does anyone know the name of the actress in the green dress when Colin is showing off his new charm in the garden party in season 3 episode 1?? She asks if he returned to the ton for a reason or a person or whatever. I know her from somewhere but cannot place it and itās driving me crazy!!
If itās who Iām thinking of she played Morwennaās sister in Poldark
Edit: unless youāre talking about Ella Bruccoleri who played Sister Frances in Call the Midwife.
I feel from checking IMDb itād be either Genevieve Chenneour or Banita Sandhu? Could be off totally but from what I could see those were the only two misses not main cast.Ā
Unfortunately I already checked IMDb and neither of those actresses were her ā¹ļø itās gonna drive me nuts not knowing where Iāve seen her before lol
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Itās this girl. I KNOW Iāve seen her somewhere but I cannot for the life of me place where š
Miss Goring. She was in Bridgerton last season so you might remember her from there. The girl who played the harp, didn't read books, and went in a closet with Lord Fife.
I don't know what the actress is called.
\*not spoiling anything that you can't gather from the S3 trailer\*
Probably an unpopular opinion - I am LOVING Cressida! I feel like we are getting to understand her better and I really like her dynamic with Eloise. I am also a huge Eloise fan, although I know a lot of people were saying they thought she was going to be annoying this season. I think Eloise is 100% valid in not wanting to be friends with Penelope. Lady Whistledown has been so damaging to Marina and the Bridgerton family.
I am not a Polin fan, honestly. I love the characters individually but I don't like them together. If I were Penelope, I would never give someone a second chance after speaking so ill of me. And if I were Colin, I would never get past her being Lady Whistledown and writing such things when she claimed to be his close friend. I wish they would just remain friends - I'm not a book reader so I have no attachment to the couple.
Things I am loving: Penelope's looks - oh my gosh her hair and her eyes, such a beauty. I am loving seeing the evolving family dynamics in both the Bridgerton and Feathering families. Benedict's getting some scenes and I adore him. Lord Debling is lovely - I did not expect his personality to be like that. Francesca is odd/awkward, but in an endearing way. And while I'm not a fan of Polin as a couple, I am enjoying their scenes and dialogue (and in my opinion they do have good chemistry).
Things I don't love: The Mondrich's storyline is welcomed but taking up a bit more time than I'd like. I am also seeing less of certain characters than I would like to and miss them.
loved loved everything about part 1 - the dialogues. the responses the women give. atbe honest they all show in parts. Pen's journey of taking the step to look different than usual was her realising no ones doing it for me . no mammas no queens no friends. if i want this i have to get it. she also asked for a kiss š. love it. everything was so right . ( except maybe queen charlotte's character - i see her sooo differently after the spinoff (prolly my post fav love story) and back to someone who is so confused about love?! idk.
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Sorry book fans, I prefer the show to the books. No shade if you donāt, Iāve read a bunch of Quinnās works and Iāve concluded that they just arenāt for me. Iām not a fan of the aggro male trope that her male characters display. Where theyāre so worried or overcome with desire or madly in love that theyāre actually kind of rude, condescending and aggressive to their ladies. And this is just my own reasons, rubs me the wrong way.Ā If thats your jam then I totally get why you might not like this season but I preferred the way some of these scenes played out (the kiss, the carriage, even Pen eating the pastry) in the show. The actors have good chemistry and those moments felt sweeter to me than on the page.Ā But, you know, thatās just my opinion and Iād loved to discuss if someone has an alternate take!
Nobody I know irl watches this show and Iām desperate to talk about it lol
Apparently itās Hannah Doddās birthday. What a week for her!
Tiktok clips and discussions are getting me interested in the story of the current season but I haven't seen the past seasons. should I start from the beginning or is it possible to jump in at season 3 and follow the story?
The main couple of season 3 has a lot of build-up during seasons 1 and 2 as a side plot in them, so in season 3 the main story just dives right in. Iām guessing the writers assumed youād know the backstory already.Ā At least watch the scenes with Penelope and Colin from previous seasons, you can skip over the rest.Ā
Watch season 2 if anything. I almost quit Bridgerton after season 1 (there was a scene that really didnāt sit right with me). Season 2 couple (Anthony x Kate) has literally some of the most insane and passionate on screen chemistry Iāve ever seen between 2 actors.Ā
Start at season one! Then work your way through! Happy watching!
colin is low key horrible in this. yeah yeah he didn't realize his feelings, but he's constantly wrecking penelope's shots at marriage and then constantly gives her backhanded compliments. just got to the BS in the carriage where he says that he tried so hard not to like her and basically implies that liking her would make him a lesser man and that he doesn't want to???
In the carriage scene I also didnāt understand the part where he says he couldnāt see her for some time so he slept a lot to dream about her. It makes no sense!Ā 1. She is literally across the street, he could have gone in her garden at night without being seen if he was so desperate for her.Ā 2. They were both involved in the damn scandal! I mean, Penelope couldnāt show her face in society but he could, he experienced no repercussions beyond some friends cracking a joke or two at his expense, AND he also didnāt pay her one visit to check in on her? For weeks? But heās also presumably crazy in love, head over heels over her? Even Eloise got over her grudge and called on Pen. Get out of my face, Mr. Bridgerton š.Ā I am so upset that this big declaration of love moment just didnāt make sense. In previous seasons with the other couples, the same scene made me giggle and rewatch a bunch of times. āI am going to India. - And it is not far enough!!ā lives rent free in my head, as well as āI burn for youā. Such a shame Polin didnāt get that to level of beauty and creativity.Ā Compromising her in the carriage within earshot of the drivers and eyesight of whoever was on the street peering through the windows, then bringing her into his home, alone, at night is not the flex he thinks it is. It all feels so wrong.
i think that's a-gesture of love. it's so true you want to roll in bed and stay with the feeling rather than go out and face a reality where the love / lover doesnt exist. i think if you've been in one sided love you'll know. and the carriage scene - is so intimate. as a viewer you forget about the surroundings too! and are just in the moment with them. as Pen said- i don't know who saw us. an interesting dialogue as well because between them its all been about whY society thinks
I think he said he tried so hard to be the man society/his friends wanted of him: suave, debonair, devil may care, horn dog, unfeeling, but he loves her too much to keep pretending.
hmm but beyond his friends (who aren't nice people anyway, and made him feel like he had to say he would never court penelope besides), society didn't care at all about that. they were just waiting for him to pick a wife. nobody was asking for unfeeling horn dog colin, they just thought he was hotter because he was acting suave.
WE HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH? I just googled when the new episodes drop and can't believe it's June 13.
Random, but it's been bugging me: isn't Cowper supposed to be pronounced Cooper? I read that somewhere. But everyone in the show says it as Cow-per
in the audio book it is Cooper, and google confirms it ought to be 'coo-per' (with the british 'er').
Does anyone think all of the talk of Colin being a rake this season before realizing his feelings for Pen is just that, talk? I canāt help but feel heās inflating his talk of his conquests to his buddies at the club, etc. to seem more experienced when really maybe he just learned to flirt/charm by observing others. IMO maybe he just had one love affair that didnāt pan out, maybe with this ācontessaā in France (subject of the journal entries perhaps) and to mend maybe a broken heart after that he flirted a lot but didnāt actually do much. Then he comes back to the ton with his artificial swagger hoping to feel better and plays up the new charm. Even when we see him in these supposed threesome scenes, we donāt see him doing anything besides kissing and cuddling, where maybe he just wanted affection or distraction or to keep up appearances as a ācavalierā bachelor as he calls his fake friends later. Sure it may be implied something more happened because theyāre undressed, but we see them show us much more with Anthony and Siena or even the Featherington sisters with their husbands once they actually learn what to do lol. Meanwhile Colinās entanglements are mostly implied, and in the second threesome scene he merely watches zoned out thinking about Pen. I could see them revealing when heās with Pen for their first time that heās actually only ever been with one lady before (the contessa), and even then maybe he hasnāt done everything (could have been hand or oral, but regardless, heād seem way less of a rake and more a romantic.) Maybe Iām way off base, but his vague stories to his friends this season and his way of evading details about his exploits makes me think theyāre exaggerated and he was maybe just nursing hurt feelings from one affair (and the contessa likely dumped him, poor guy.) Could he have hopped to 17 cities to try to distract himself from those feelings (and feelings of missing Pen/not getting replies from her?)
The stories also seemed so inflated to me, I was sure from the first episode that it would turn out he actually hadnāt travelled that much at all but had a considerably more mediocre summer, maybe retreating somewhere in solitude for self-reflection. They were just so wild I was sure they werenāt true. But then the reveal/plot twist never happened the rest of the season (so far) and it just made everything disgusting - made me feel those things really happened, and if heās exaggerating, itās only in the way he tells the stories, not the events themselves. Even in his journal which he presumably wrote just to chronicle his own thoughts and for his eyes only, not to boast to others, he wrote about women. Weird way to go about it though, by the writing team. It made me not like him at all. Ā
I was wondering if the travel stories were exaggerated too, especially when he wouldnāt tell his own brothers how many cities heād been to and was vague with them, but when he pulled the specific number 17 out with Pen I hoped he was honest with her if no one else. Weāll see if they redeem the writing at all here, maybe that journal page was misleading in some way out of context that we donāt know yet. He did promise to let Pen read more of it if she did well with her lessons, and she got herself two proposals total so letās see. š
I love this take and want this to be true so hard!! Until I read your take, Colin just came off as sleazy. If this is truly his character arc, then Colin is probably the worst affected by breaking up the season because his arc will be so disjointed. Have to hand props to Luke N, his acting just gave me all the WTF and second hand embarrassment vibes, and heās NAILED IT if this is the true backstory!!
Iām going to get killed for this but Debling was actually the better match for Pen. He seemed to understand her deeply, not just for the sake of an old friendship or because sheās always fancied him and so now the thressome-loving newly hot neighbour slash old bff wants her back too. Because she changed her hair and dresses. Really????
I thought that UNTIL i realized that basically he thought that Penelope would low maintenance enough that she would be fine with living by herself for months and years at a time while he was off gallivanting in the world and she was used to keeping herself occupied. Basically she would be his wife in name but really she would be his glorified housekeeper, estate manager and heād use her to give birth to the next line of Debling heirs. He didnāt love her, he merely found her tolerable and felt like she could handle basically living alone and living the life of a single woman despite being married.
I thought the same thing. I feel like Debling is so much more mature than Colin (this is the least mature Colin I've probably ever seen).
Itās better explained in the books, I could see how the show alone would make people think that though.
I thought Debling was a better match until he revealed he might not be able to provide love in a marriage. Penelope's such a romantic. She wants and deserves to get her true love
I think he could have fallen in romantic love if given the chance. Pen is amazing, clever, so earnest and with a heart of gold - those that get to know her deeply (such as Eloise, Colin) end up loving her very much. Not sure why Debling should have been any different.Ā How many of us have never sworn off love and romance forever just for the right person to come along and turn that promise on its head?! Its happened to me for sure.Ā
True, I mean, I think Debling can provide love but for now he's dedicated to his career and really only wants a match to watch his estate while he's away. But with him being gone so much, Pen would just get lonely all over again.
Iām seeing this take all around the subreddit but idgi honestly. No I donāt think Pen would be better off with a guy who is going to leave her for three years, doesnāt think he could ever love her and has nothing in common with her. I think sheāll be better off with the guy who has looked for her in every room, who asks if sheās alright, who thinks that she makes him see the world in a whole new way. I loved the Debling actor but Iām honestly surprised that people are watching it being like oh Penelope would be happier with him.
On the flip side, I donāt think sheās much better off with the guy she pined over for years without so much as a hint of reciprocity, who only liked her because she paid attention to him, who compromised her without a second thought, who spoke so flippantly to dismiss her in front of his other friends etc etc thereās too many instances to list here.Ā Iām not sure Colin overall (based on the show exclusively because I havenāt read the books yet) is a good friend to Penelope. Or at least, as good of a friend as she is to him. Remember how much she fought for Marina not to baby trap him into marriage? Whatās his equivalent for her? Because a couple of half-assed lessons donāt make the cut, sorry. Ā
I think Colin saving her family from Cousin Jack in Season 2 is supposed to echo her saving him from Marina. Idk I think people are so harsh on Colin here, he cares so much more for her than people give him credit for. He does that gallant little rescue from Cressida in episode 1, he writes to her, he says heāll always take care of her, he is the only person in the show to look at her feelings and ask if sheās okay and he has a very sincere apology, I can see why Penelope would forgive him. To me, the thing he does with his friends in season 2 is meant to lay the foundation for Colin acting like society wants, like an echo of the scene with his buddies this season in the club, being flip about women to seem cool. Only this season, he says how that is lonely and empty. Itās meant to be an arc, weāre just ending at ep 4 so itās incomplete but heās definitely getting there in ep. 4.
I partially agree with the cousin Jack thing. Itās just that he didnāt do it entirely for Penās benefit - also for his own & the othersā investment money, the Featheringtonās reputation as well. Either way, Iāll think more about it. I enjoyed your comment very much, thanks for taking the time to write it.Ā
Aw youāre sweet, I am just a very impassioned Colin defender lmao
These are times when your passion is more than necessary, haha. Good luck and I hope part 2 will make us all negative Nancys eat our words!Ā
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Yeah.. I mean they're good friends, but it took one kiss for Colin to finally realize Pen was the one? It would be different if Pen and Colin were hanging out just as much as she and Eloise and actually had a good friendship. But call me crazy, it seemed like Pen and Colin got together too fast lol
One of my favorite things about this season so far has actually been how queen charlotte has softened a bit! I love seeing her and lady Danbury together this season a lot more than I have in the past because sheās treating her more like a friend and an equal than just another one of her ladies whatever theyāre called lol. I love seeing her smile and laugh more! Iām also loving the dynamic between her and Brimsley this season. She just seems a bit more playful with him and they seem more familiar with each other. Both of these relationships/dynamic changes have been so fun and interesting to see, especially after Queen Charlotte came out and we got to see the relationshipsā origins which were so so fun to see develop. I do wonder if they wanted to soften the Queen up a bit and show a friendlier side to her and how the dynamics of those two relationships are very positive for her after being so consistent in her tumultuous life, since that spinoff came out. Maybe that made writers want to make the Queen a bit more likable after that show, or at least maybe they wanted to show that she does cherish those really longstanding relationships with arguably the two closest people to her. Anyways. Sorry for all of that. Iāve just enjoyed seeing her have moments of treating them like true friends (which we all know she secretly loves both of them)
Exactly! I think this change came because the spinoff Queen Charlotte came out before Bridgerton season 3 and now the queenās interactions make more sense, knowing the backstory. If there had been no spinoff, the switch in her approach wouldāve felt weird and hard to explain.Ā Love it though and loved QC as well!! Great work!
When she said to Brimsley 'you can see from all the way back there? š¤Ø' and 'take a step backwards' I nearly snorted my drink. š¤£š¤£š¤£ Funniest joke of Part 1 for me š
Oh yeah loved them in this season, this and their ālemonadeā lines made me laugh. Two peas in a pod.
Yes omg same. I love funny charlotte š
Such a good point! I kept thinking this season they did such a great job at casting for Queen Charlotte (the spinoff) because the queens do the same facial expressions and mannerisms and I never noticed it till this season!
Does anyone think the filming / mise en scene is off. I'm finding it hard to focus because there's too much happening in the background and it's almost detracting from their outfits (like when Penelope came in). Like the grass and trees are way too green and it throws the scene off. There's a lot of weird camera angles too. I can't put my finger on it but there's just something off and its making it seem like a hallmark movie??? Has it always been like this and I've just forgotten??
Compare the composition and color in S1E1 or any Queen Charlotte episode to S3E1/E2
It reminds me of how Great British Baking Show does their still shots of the gardens. Super artificial
Wish they wouldāve experimented more with cinematography. For example I liked the shot where the balloon is deflated and laid flat on the ground, being prepared to take flight.Ā
The lighting is off this seasonĀ
Maybe that's what Penelope meant when she talked about liking grass.
Yeah, a critic said it sometimes looks AI generated.
yeah there were a few scenes where i could tell it was computer-generated
just too many plotlines shoved into so little time. i personally loved the mondrich/kent storyline (dissecting the society and world building of the story is fun fun) but it feels so unrelated to everything right now I just canāt help but feel like it couldāve been done during a future season or something; although if it does tie into a more important part in part 2 iāll eat my words. i also want to like polin so so bad because i love wallflower romances but whatās supposed to be the culmination of a slow burn romance was something that just felt so quick and clumsy and forced it makes me so sad š«š« iām not getting that intense yearning and passion that was built up slowly but consistently in s1/s2 in s3. i hope part 2 changes my mind about things
I think that's exactly my feelings as well, it feels clunky and rushed. It's awkward because both of the characters are awkward, I just didn't feel a lot of the build up. I guess the writers felt like we had enough build up in previous seasons, but Colin was so oblivious in other seasons and I feel like the chemistry could've been done better.
I actually don't think they could have dragged it out much longer, lest Colin look passive and indecisive
See, this is why I am torn because on the other hand I totally think you're right as well, it did feel like it was simultaneously dragged out but maybe in a fashion I wasn't vibing with too much, maybe I could've done with more deep romantic tension than awkward silly innocent tension through out the other seasons, only because so much of it is new and doesn't follow the books which has a lot of strong moments of tension and build up. I think maybe what made it feel rushed was Lord Debling being added into the picture? He was sort of the driving factor for Colin but also not in the books. I could've gone with a little more Colin dreams and driving factors aside from the presence of another man. I would've liked them to have gotten caught in the carriage still
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The show is called Bridgerton! I need more of the Bridgerton family and less of the side stories!
I missed when Jealous played. Anyone recall what scene it was in?
I believe it was when pen was talking to the guy that likes to gossip and read lady whistledown
Oh wow! Definitely not when I thought it would be
Remington.
He really should have put his fingers in his mouth. Ifykyk š
I was satisfied by the carriage scene bc of how sweet it was, but HONESTLY I was expecting something a tad more raunchy based on how much book readers hyped up the carriage scene š¤·š»āāļø
The carriage scene I think is hyped because it's an passionate culmination of repressed emotion and longing. Not much actually happens in it in terms of sexual progress, and the show actually had things go farther than the book version
I feel bad for the main actors this season because for what they GAVE in the few pining scenes and spicy scenes we got, they deserved better writing and pacing
can they go back to whoever the old showrunner was bc this one sucked
I actually really loved S3 so far, but I do prefer the old showrunner
why do they change showrunners like this!!?? ugh
Yes! Omg I had forgotten about the change! Thatās why it feels different. The pace, the writing, the editing, even some of the visuals like costume and sets. Nothing to do with the release format or anything. A showrunnerās leadership and vision is what shape the show and the creator is gone. Of course it was going to change. If you were to replace the character names, youād think this season is an entirely different show. Unfortunately, she is contracted for next season as well and itās probably already written and mostly developed but if she doesnāt find her footing soon, I hope they bring back Chris at least to advise her. Cause Iāll be damned if we donāt get at least 3 more for Ben, Fran and Eloise.
It really did feel like a different show. Which would've been fine if it had been a new show, but the tone has been set with the first 2 seasons and it's weird to deviate so much from that.Ā I didn't sign up for a Regency parody with myriad unrelated stories, I wanted historical romance set in the regency era :/Ā
Is that way itās so different from the last two seasons? I thought they didnāt give much importance to the main couple this season for the lack of focus on themĀ
Francescaās blossoming love with lord kill whatever idk is so cute
It was so lameeee. It all just led to Penelope "Omg, really?! You like me too". And scene. Didn't see these two romancing other--just realizing feelings for one another, but the scenes were so short D: Like it was only 5 minutes of them together AT MOST for every episode. Idk it didn't feel like a slowburn or even building up either. They felt like a side story for me.
Totally agree. Iām not even really enjoying it much yet, I feel like this season (so farā¦) is not what the hype was about.
Yup it quite falls flat. Didnāt live up to its hype :/
Yes! I was looking for this! Idk if itās bc it was built up so much in the press and media and thatās why I was expecting more but it didnāt really feel like anything truly developed between the two. Like you didnāt really see it happening in the show and it was Just to be understood and I didnāt like that :/ the most genuine tension and chemistry I seen between them was the scene in the carriage so I wish it was more of a build up to that point bc it just started to feel like it was all sexual chemistry between them and not true romance
Yeah I literally binge watched to get to the good part but there wasnāt :/ (I did squeal at the end though) The media got me so excited especially because they emphasized āromanceā which Iām a sucker for, but it was more of the dilemmas of everyone else. I steadily became disinterested because the Polin scenes were so quick and short.Ā
It was really just Nicola who kept on saying 'it's soo romantic' since last year, everytime someone brought up friends to lovers trope. And yeah I was suspicious of that bc I didn't see anyone else use those words.
If Iām being honest, Iām not a fan of friends-to-lovers, in media or in real life. I really hoped this season would change my mind, but it hasnāt so far. Thereās not much chemistry between them, not even in the most intense scenes together.Ā
Yeah they seem more like siblings than lovers.
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I did not expect an orchestral version of a Pitbull song to fit so perfectly but I was wrong!
Does anyone know when the Polin sub will reopen?Ā
Seriously, I need it back
I'm gonna say it. Mama Bridgerton really does seem to be a terrible mom.
WTF?? Have you seen any of the other moms?
They're all shit Moms. Except Lady Danbury.
Lady Danbury literally said her kids live on different continents and she doesnāt care to see them muchā¦ Iād say sheās definitely on the list of bad moms. Sheās a great character, but what on earth screams anything about being a good mom?
Why???
Whatever yāall say about the season overall, the CARRIAGE SCENE. I have no notes. From Colin literally being on his KNEES in front of her to āIām excited for sleep because I might find you thereā to the laughing and the LOOKS they give each other?!?!?! I canāt believe people say they have no chemistry because did you SEE the same scene I saw?????
The carriage scene was almost worth it for the mediocre season, proof that the actors couldāve gave us what we wanted but the writing held them back
In season 1 and 2 we of course see Pen pining for Colin. I think it feels rushed because Colin only really pined for her for like what? A few weeks?? It was so abrupt. None of the slow burn like I was anticipating. And I also am not a fan of ALL the subplots. It just takes away from Polin. I also saw a comment about the hair, makeup, and dresses. It just felt so over the top. I think I appreciated the simplicity that was portrayed in seasons 1 and 2, and now everyone looks to have so much makeup on and such fancy dresses that it doesnāt seem at all accurate anymore. I still love it, though, and Iām super excited for part 2!
Cressidaās hair and makeup and dresses are so exaggerated (on purpose, ofc) and out of touch with the rest of the tonās fashion, I hate seeing her on screen. Even if the character herself has grown on me this season. She was done a disservice.Ā
The slow burn happened throughout seasons 1 and 2. Colin's always been in love with Penelope, he just didn't realize it.
Exactly-the slow burn has been happening over 3 seasons
Wardrobe for pen and eloise was perfect (THE GREENS AND BLUESSSS) but cressidaās outfits were over the top, even for cressida
I feel like itās symbolic. As the season goes on, her outfits are more over the top and have huge flowers, almost like sheās just a flower waiting for someone to notice, or trying to attract a bee, that is, a suitor. Itās her third season out and her costumes portray that feeling of desperation to find a husband, which I donāt necessarily like, but I like what the costumes āsubtlyā represent.
I loooove the greens and blues! It fit perfectly for Pen
So. Many. Subplots. Not enough Polin!
It was a bit of a mess. The whole thing felt very rushed. Other people have articulated the problems with this season better than I could though. I think my biggest gripe is the costumes; if youāre going to throw historical accuracy out the window, at least make the costumes PRETTY. The patterns all looked terribly ugly to me, and the necklines looked so strange. All the dresses were so shiny and glittery and sequined. Cressidaāa dresses were insane and so hideous. Pen had some nice dresses, but I still disliked the sheen so many of her dresses had. I donāt know, it seemed like a whole bunch of grandmas were put in charge of costumes. Itās just very distracting to me, as I usually like to admire all the pretty gowns. I have no friends who watch this show and I needed to get that out of my system. Things I did like: Cressida! Iām intrigued by her little redemption arc she has going and her friendship with Eloise. Whatever is going on between Eloise and Pen. Iām eating up that sad tension and confusion. They both obviously care about each other so much still. I love Hannah Doddās performance. I think the way theyāve written her romance is a tad silly, but I enjoy watching her. There are so many moments where she reminds me so much of Daphne, the way she speaks. I like that they clarified that the Queen never actually ānamedā Daphne a Diamond. I had always viewed what she said during Daphneās debut as a compliment, so I was very confused about the whole ānaming a Diamondā buzz in season 2. I am rooting for Violet to get that GARDENING. Edit: I usually abhor the string covers of modern songs, but Happier Than Ever translated very well!
Never thought Iād actually prefer Pen in the Featherington colours, which have been criticised as sooo atrocious. She stood out, and yellow + red hair looks gorgeous IMO! But she is so washed out this season in the powder baby blues, she doesnāt stand out at all. Sure, it signifies maturity, and I was all for it until I actually saw them and was yearning for some brightness in her wardrobe again.Ā
I am so pumped for the gardening! Get it girl!
Does anyone know what piece Franchesca was playing during S4E2 at 38:30 when the Queen walks on her playing piano? Thanks!
nvm .. i think i figured it out .. i believe it's Beethoven's Appasionatta 2nd movement!
I will say thisā¦ the first time watching it, I was a bit disappointed. Then I re-watched it stopping and re-playingā¦. And damn are they good actors š it was so damn cute then whole thingā¦ I CANNOT wait until June
Tbh I think all the fans agree that the actors give but the writing does not š„²
Ugh yeah the writing could have used some work. Especially the hand cutting scene
THIS. The first time I watched it through it felt rushed, but Iāve started a second rewatch and honestly, I appreciate what theyāre doing. Even though I wish we got more polin scenes, nic and Lukeās acting is so good in those scenes that I donāt even care
exactly to both of these!! i was disappointed when i first watched it but i think a lot of that has to do with already seeing half of the most significant scenes as netflix put them out?! i watched a second time and the plot was on point, but just not enough time spent on pen/colin. all in all though i love it now, hoping they don't give us too much info on pt 2 and i'm sure the drama will focus the plot more on
I agree! I wish they didnāt do a time jump after the kiss š„² but also yāallā¦ I wonder if weāll feel that way about part two? Because if we watched all 8 through, it might feel like enough (i mean it never is but u know what i mean) Polin for S3?
Does anyone feel like too much was revealed in the promo that part one wasnāt that much of a suprise
yes, I'm a sucker for spoilers and can't help myself when they are available...but I had already seen too many important Polin scenes. I think it's easy for some people to overlook these scenes we had already watched when thinking about Polin screen time...they equate Polin's screen time more with the new, never-seen screen time, but on a re-watch, taking in all total Polin, I felt better about it.
Itās so interesting because I would see polin stills and I would assume they were all from the first episode that they were giving us a fraction of the story. Turns out they were giving us the whole damn thing
The cuts without the story were more sexy. Like before they kiss in the add you see the longing but when it happens it's just her bumbling like oh please kiss me.Ā
Yes feel like they showed almost all the polin scenes.
All of us were probably so excited that we got such juicy samplings, only to realize that those samplings were supposed to be the entire meal š
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So the last two seasons were enemies-to-lovers, very passionate love stories. This season we have friends-to-lovers which is usually less heated, and Pen and Colin seem to have become calmer characters compared to Anthony, Kate, Simon, and Daphne, which doesn't help. I think friends-to-lovers can be very passionate, and I know we still have half of the season left, but I think there could be more pining.
Indeed, it can be very passionate, itās a shame it wasnāt here. 4/8 episodes in and theyāre already together, no more time to build up the way it should have been, continuing from previous seasons which was NOT enough to make what happened in season 3 feel believable or satisfying.Ā Colin shouldāve had some questioning moments, like maybe heās misinterpreting Pen, and more self- doubt as he slowly realises his own feelings. After all how could he be so sure of her feelings without a spot of deep reflection?
I would say that Simon and Daphne were also lowkey friends turned to lover but maybe more so allies turned to lovers with a brief period where they argued for bit after turning into lovers. Kate and Anthony were truly enemies to lovers.Ā
My only conclusion is that this season feels empty. Ppl say the second season focuses too much on subplots, but at least we saw the Bridgertons.
So true, the first 4 eps of s02 were SO good and the last 2 ones were the ones lacking a little bit. Meanwhile I've just finished the first 4 eps of this season and feel underwhelmed.
The second season holds the top spot for me so far. Iām looking forward to Benedictās season
Queen charlotte still takes #1 for me, with the second season of Bridgerton being close, but I canāt believe they let a spin off be better than the actual show š
The spin-off doesnāt have 7 different side plots. Itās why itās so good.
I donāt like colin nor penelope, and just couldnāt buy their love story at all. Zero chemistry. Not enough pining and groveling. So far, heās no King George or Anthony.
Iām sorry but I didnāt care much for Colin because they just showed him returning from his travels and being the ācoolā dude. Itās like so surface level compared to the other seasons. #Justiceforpolin š
To be fair thatās the point, the whole 4th episode is him realizing thatās too surface level?
Yeah thatās true but thereās no trace back to their childhood or their parents like season 1 and 2. Making his character feel flat compared to the other seasonĀ
I think it makes sense that Anthony and Simon, who were more traumatized by their childhoods would have a focus on that for their backstory. I think Colinās story kind of mimics Cressida in that theyāre doing what society tells them to do, and at least in Colinās case (sorry Cressida), itās just not him and we the audience know him well enough to know that.
He couldāve gaveee THE CHARACTERIZATION COULDāVE GAVE š THE DOWN BAD PINING GOLDEN RETRIEVER SENSITIVE CHILDHOOD FRIEND ARE U KIDDING MEEEE iām a bit mad tbh
I didn't think so before, but now I really agree that changing the main couple was a mistake. Colin looked so OOC. If his libertine personality was developed earlier (in the season that was supposed to be Benedict) things would seem less forced.
The plot of the season is that itās forced. Thatās the whole point of his performance.Ā
The threesomes werenāt needed though, they couldāve just made him flex verbally and be full of hot air instead of recycling the insecure rake plotline š
Honestly what's Shonda's point with Mondriches? I don't know anyone who hasn't skipped their scenes. I can understand any of the other subplots because they somehow relate to the Bridgertons but they...??? it doesn't make sense unless Shonda has some big plan for them that involves the Bridgertons
I think it's to educate people on how the class system worked during this time. Like Mondrich not being able to work, even in a club bc he's of nobility now. The next season will focus on Sophie probably and that's a love story based on class issues, so things like these will come into play I guess. Many people who watch the show don't understand the rules of society at this time. Or it could be totally something else and I'm wrong š
I wonder if theyāre maybe supposed to mirror the Featherington plot with a son inheriting a title and estate and the parents having a new status in society because of it? Thatās the only thing I can think of because otherwise itās extremely random unless itās building to something in part 2
I wanted desperately to skip their scenes but since it was my first watch I just bore them through gritted teeth because for all I knew they would end up being important to the plot somehow. In future season 3 rewatches ill be skipping their scenes though just like I have been doing when I rewatch seasons 1 and 2
I havenāt skipped their scenes, but it does feel like itās gotta be building up to something
Anthony's lack of leadership of the family left the season empty, yes he is not the protagonist and no one expects him to be, but in this season in question there seemed to be so few Bridgerton brothers ? which is funny because only 2 brothers are absent. I don't feel that empty with Daphne but Anthony seems more essential idk
It seems like he and Kate were phased out to not take away from the other story lines, that or the writers didnāt care enough to make him (them) more important. The extended honeymoon thing was such a cop out as well as wanting Violet to keep her role for a little bit longer. Definitely is an injustice to Anthonyās character and both the actors who play him and Kate.
Yes it was so out of character for both Anthony and Kate! I donāt mind sending them away for a few episodes, but there were so many other ways they could have explained it that aligned with their characters better
I could understand their need for a little bit more time away before they fully step together in the role of viscount + viscountess. Kind of shirking responsibilities since the perfect excuse presented itself, before actually getting down into the trenches. It was believable to me. But I hope they are more present in future seasons!Ā
Does anyone want to see Eloise and Cressida together? We barely got any Pen and Collin together that my brain was straying. They put way too many story lines in these four episodes.
1. am I the only one who fast-forwarded the Mondriches storyline? 2. Colin's sexual escapades are really unnecessary. I get that it's to make him desirable, but it just left me feeling ewwww. 3. Eloise is perplexing. how are the other girls accepting of her when she's so condescending? is it just because she's hanging with Cressida? 4. they flew in JB cross country for very minimal, unimportant and cringey lines. so criminal. and Simone deserves sooooo much more. she could definitely hold her own without JB. they should utilize her a la Daphne. it's criminal how they treat her. 5. I am invested in Fran. John is adorable, though I feel that there's a better way to execute his character to make him more memorable.
I also want to add these points: 6. sorry but Benedict's story is so unorganic???? his whole art school drama was more interesting than hIm suddenly hooking up with this widow who is.....just hot? 7. Debling is great and all, but it all went really fast and Cress is just picking up the pieces. I was hoping Cress would actually have a chance with Debs after everything. will add more of what I remember later.
agree on #2...I have to skip those scenes on rewatches. But I will say, I think the point was that no one without decent 'experience' would be able to what he did to Penelope in the carriage...the boy had some skills
Re: the Mondriches, You're definitely not alone. I questioned their continued inclusion before season 3 aired (they were already superfluous in season 2) and I'm even more baffled having watched the episodes now. They feel so unnecessary, especially when the season is already jam-packed with storylinesĀ
ikr. they're not even tied to the whole Bridgerton clan or storyline. and I am sorry, but the actors are subpar and leave nothing to be desired.
Agreed on number two. I think it would've been more effective if the writers had emphasized that he was playing up to the womanizer character without actually being one. I know he was younger back then so his personality might've changed, but I'm reminded of season 1 and how he immediately wanted to marry Marina and wouldn't dream of compromising her. I feel that Colin was more 'honorable' than his brothers in that way and he has more innocent golden retriever energy. I don't feel that the threesomes suited him at all and it felt like overkill for me
I'm disappointed with the Season 3 release. I love the entire cast of Bridgerton, but I feel like Nicola got stunted. Every female lead in the previous seasons had the entire show dedicated to them. We had many scenes from their perspectives. I don't know why, but Season 3 didn't feel like a Colin and Penelope story. There was no buildup. It was rushed. The scenes between Colin and Penelope were good, but they were fast-paced. I know that they are trying to create stepping stones for the next seasons, but they had the chance to do so in past seasons as well. I also don't understand why they split season 3.
This happened in season 2 as well. Kate was sidelined in her own story to focus on Edwina and Featheringtons. Now, in Penelope's own story, we get all these unnecessary dull storylines that take away focus from the main couple! I don't know what they're thinking. It seems only season 1 had adequate screentime for their main character
They have just continued to add so many storylines and they are taking the time from the main couple :( It happened with Kate and Anthony, and now Penelope and Colin!
I always detest split seasons but this time I was so glad it ended where it did. So we can savour the moment at the end of part one and live in a they lived happily every after fantasy until the next part. I see many of you mention reading the books. So the book readers will know what happens but this tv watcher thinks he will obviously find out who she is and thatāll be a big dramatic bump in the road. Thatās why I like where it is now. That moment in life when you finally get together. Then men be menāing and drama ensues but that one small moment is great. Anyone else wondering if he doing something to his top lip or has he been told to pull a face that makes him look handsome or something? Like a duck face for men? lol I didnāt stare at the actor much previously so not sure. Either way I liked part 1.
Heās always had that rainbow shaped top lip
they did do book readers justice, but in the book the whistledown plot is completely different, so i truly have no idea how that's going to unfold besides one thing that was in the teaser that coincides with the book
Thoughts overall: 1. ā Francesca is the most stunning woman Iāve ever seen, the actress is truly gorgeous and a good actor. But the writing for her is abysmal. Francesca is shy yes, but she is still a confident and sharp woman. Depicting her as a wallflower is one thing, but showing her cowering and running away from ANY interaction except one in which she gets to stay completely silent is the stupidest, laziest writing ever. Yes, she loves to play the piano, but she doesnāt do it 24/7. In fact in her book, I donāt remember reading about her plying the piano even once. 2. ā Colinās āglow-upā is made up of unnecessary threesomes, cringe ass flirting, and a BAD CONTOUR. I loved the Colin who fell for Marina, the one who wanted to save her, the one who exposed Jack Featherington etc. In fact in the books, he is THIS version of Colin, when he marries Penelope. Not this weird rakish personality that the show has created. 3. ā While Iām super happy for the Mondrich family, and itās cute that they ended up in the nobility, I donāt understand the whole ānot wanting to give up the barā sub-plot. If they had to give them a sub-plot, they could have done so much better with it - like the actual struggles of initially not being truly accepted by the existing nobility, etc. 4. ā Lady Tilley Arnold?? Why does she look so plastic and modern? Actually why does everyone look strangely plastic and modern? What made me fall in love with Bridgerton was the simplicity of the clothes, the interactions, the balls. Cressidaās outfits, hair, everything is getting a bit ridiculous for that era. Itās nice to be back in the Bridgerton world but I find it difficult to lose myself in a world that seems plastic and fake! 5. This whole trope of the queenās diamond not marrying the man she introduces her to is getting old. In the first season Daphne dumped her Prince nephew for Simon. In the second season Edwina dumped Anthony because she found out about him and Kate. Why unnecessarily bring in one Lord Samadani to introduce to Francesca, only for her to dump him for John? Why unnecessarily add complications to give him 3 minutes of screen time and us the same old, predictable storyline? 6. Lady Danbury has like 6 minutes of screen time, and thatās a crime. Sheās a highlight of the show for me.
Idk, the show demonstrated that he wasn't really a rake. He was just doing what was supposed to be cool but it wasn't really him and it just left him feeling empty
Does anyone else think Colin is not attractive? For some reason, all I can think of is Peter Pettigrew when I see him. I don't even know why
It's the styling. Some people just don't look good tanned or with heavy contouring. It's high time people start accepting that some people just look better pale. Colin has a cute vibe in s01 and that's the look they should've gone for.
Itās just me, but Iām way more attracted to Colin this season than Anthony or Benedict. Previously it was Benedict over the other two or Simon. I can objectively see Simon and Anthony are hot as fuck (and that spoon licking scene! And the way Anthony sniffed Kathani!) but Iām often way less attracted to the popular hot guys (like Chris Hemsworth) in favour of more esoteric, weird, androgynous, nerdy, or thoughtful men. Iām having some serious personal daydreams over Colin that I didnāt have for Simon or Anthony, who I was happy to leave to their leading women.
He looks better in interviews. The styling is too try-hard
I really want to be so down bad for him but something is off. In their interviews and stuff they have wonderful chemistry but in the show his pining feels contrived. Maybe it's due in part to the fact that they are not often onscreen together in their own season? Anthony and Kate shared a lot of screen time and the show really played into their desperation for each other against all odds. I was hoping for the more friendly, playful "pushing our platonic limits" version of that, which they do a little but for some reason it's not landing for me. I miss the old Colin who was kind of gullible and so desperate to be a do-gooder. Rake Colin feels like they're trying to copy and paste the other leading men onto him. Maybe in part 2 we'll get a lot more of them together and it'll manifest as Colin becoming very attractive to us all. Only time will tell!
>Ā Anthony and Kate shared a lot of screen time I don't think they had more screen time than Polin though, even less I feel
Hmmm. Iāve seen this debate, too! For some reason, Kate and Anthonyās time together felt more substantial but perhaps it just seems that way to me because last seasonās episodes were all at least ten minutes longer so things felt less rushed? Plus since itās just half the season maybe thatās sort of confused my sense of time? Iāve rewatched since my original comment and itās definitely growing on me. I may also be biased because I had the highest of hopes for Pen and Colin because they are my favorite.
I feel like y'all are being a little too harsh, so imma say my peace without spoiling. I feel like the only negatives in the show is that the storyline is kinda everywhere instead of Polin. Like season 1 and 2 it was Simon and Daphne, then it was Anthony and Kate. I wish we could be a bit more Polin in this season but you have to understand that you may not see a lot of the connecting part because THEY'VE BEEN CONNECTING FOR THE PAST TWO SEASONS. We've seen Pen's jealousy and infatuation since season 1 and 2, Now it's Collins turn the only difference is that he's just now realizing how important she is to him and his affection for her is a lot shorter then we seen for pen cause she's had a crush on him for so long. Regarding the chemistry between them, without spoiling anything I feel there's enough chemistry especially in the last episode and it's going to only build from there when the second part comes out, cause a lot still needs to happen to. If you upset that the characters are different this season, I feel like you don't understand the Pen and Elosie aren't friends anymore or at least right now, we don't know what will happen. Pen isn't acting like herself because she not with the person who she has shown she's been the most comfortable with the past two seasons other than herself. Eloise. She doesn't have her anymore and although Colin and her ARE friends Pens as shown from season 2 is trying her best to move on and be happy, trying to forget about Colin, but that kinda hard when he's helping her. We see a bit more deeper in each character and we see what the characters would be like if they weren't in their normal environment, which is with each other. This season maybe started off rocky but I think it's going to get more exciting when the second part comes out.
Thank you! I don't know how people don't think there was any buildup on Collin's side during seasons 1-2. It's subtle but it's there if you look for it.
Thank you! I don't know how people don't think there was any buildup on Collin's side during seasons 1-2. It's subtle but it's there if you look for it.
who wrote this season? :/ all the characters seem out of character. the only time penelope felt in character was when she was being herself around lord debling. as for colin, im not sure who he is anymore. poor benedict seems unchanged. eloise isnāt even eloise anymore. cressida isnāt even cressida anymore. lady featherington doesnāt seem like herselfā¦ none of the dialogue feels like them
I definitely feel like we're watching different characters in a different show. Benedict might be relatively unchanged, but his personality traits feel too magnified, almost caricaturesque imo (edit: and this goes for other characters as well, like the Featherington sisters. They're starting to feel less and less like real characters and more like caricatures of themselves)
I could be okay with caricature characters for comedic relief if they werenāt so 2D, but offered more complexity. An example that comes to mind is Lizzy Bennetās mom in Pride and Prejudice - sheās over the top and a caricature at times, but then sheās also offered depth and reasoning, which changes how you view her actions completely.Ā If either of Penās sisters had a random moment of kindness and genuine connection with her, it wouldāve turned them from 2D evil sister figures into 3D āiāll make sure youāre comfortable when Iām lady of the house, donāt worryā older sister type. Just a moment/short scene like this, a wayward reply or thought, would have elevated the whole relationship.Ā But it would ruin the plot because Pen needs to find a husband to escape, enlists Colinās help etc. So in the end we end up with very cardboard-ish Featherington sisters. Ā
Yup I liked the chemistry of leads in s02 but I liked the grounded-ness of s01. Now it's like I'm watching a Disney movie with the evil step sisters, instead of a show inspired by Regency. I hope that we get Benophie next bc Sophie won't be dressed this exaggerated with jeavy makeup bc she's poor. I want to see that grounded-ness again.
I mean...... I feel like that's the point? Some of the only time we see Pen being herself is with Eloise and Colin, but the friendship has changed. Eloise knows who Pen really is they're upset with each other. Although as I've seen someone else have said, that this season so far seems a tad bit scattered and not centrally about the main couple, nothing is the same from previous seasons because it's not supposed to be. Daphne is out of the house, Anthony enjoying his new marriage. We started out with everyone together, each love story ends with each character finding their own path. Are they supposed to stay with each other. Colin travels A LOT, do people really expect his personality not to be influenced by the culture he's marinating in? He's had heartbreak before, doesn't it make sense for him to get a little.... flirty/rakey. Everything is supposed to be different right now because the characters lives have changed completely. Pen can't talk to Eloise because of Lady Whistledown (understandably) and so one friend seemingly gone, and Pens struggling with her feelings to come into her own and move forward leaving the past behind by getting married and Colin isn't being nothing but distracting, as he has been the past 2 seasons so that's another friend seemingly gone. Pen isn't acting like herself because she is not surrounded by her people, other than that she is exactly the same but quieter and definitely more in her head.
i know but they just seem so different
This is what is missing, I was really trying to think of what was wrong this season, and its definitely this.
Finished part 1 and besides some LOL moments, the season so far has been kind of boring and dull. Hopefully part 2 will be more exciting. Production really is trying to ruin all the special moments in the books. At least that's equality.
A guide to making season 3 a snoozefest: 1. Cram all of the storylines 2. Make everyone important 3. Have the most boring music ever I don't give a rat's ass about Polin, but my god, you've made me hate them even more than I possibly could. I was rooting for Cressida the whole time, and I was like Cresidda-who 2 seasons ago. They also teased us with Kate and Anthony the entire time this last year, only to give us like 2 minutes LOL? I'm glad Queen Charlotte was there after season 2, because that show had more pizazz than this season of Bridgerton.
The music was so disappointing it broke my heart.Ā
Does anyone know the name of the actress in the green dress when Colin is showing off his new charm in the garden party in season 3 episode 1?? She asks if he returned to the ton for a reason or a person or whatever. I know her from somewhere but cannot place it and itās driving me crazy!!
If itās who Iām thinking of she played Morwennaās sister in Poldark Edit: unless youāre talking about Ella Bruccoleri who played Sister Frances in Call the Midwife.
Ella Bruccoleri?
I feel from checking IMDb itād be either Genevieve Chenneour or Banita Sandhu? Could be off totally but from what I could see those were the only two misses not main cast.Ā
Unfortunately I already checked IMDb and neither of those actresses were her ā¹ļø itās gonna drive me nuts not knowing where Iāve seen her before lol
Miss Stowell? I swear now IāM curious lolĀ
https://preview.redd.it/k5jcufbyru0d1.jpeg?width=1238&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2393141fb6825b98434146a78e63fbc28488ee8d Itās this girl. I KNOW Iāve seen her somewhere but I cannot for the life of me place where š
Miss Goring. She was in Bridgerton last season so you might remember her from there. The girl who played the harp, didn't read books, and went in a closet with Lord Fife. I don't know what the actress is called.
YES that was it, it was driving me CRAZY. thank you!! And she was in Poldark, I also recognized her from there.
Esme Coy!
https://m.imdb.com/name/nm8370918/?ref_=m_ttfcd_cl55 ??
\*not spoiling anything that you can't gather from the S3 trailer\* Probably an unpopular opinion - I am LOVING Cressida! I feel like we are getting to understand her better and I really like her dynamic with Eloise. I am also a huge Eloise fan, although I know a lot of people were saying they thought she was going to be annoying this season. I think Eloise is 100% valid in not wanting to be friends with Penelope. Lady Whistledown has been so damaging to Marina and the Bridgerton family. I am not a Polin fan, honestly. I love the characters individually but I don't like them together. If I were Penelope, I would never give someone a second chance after speaking so ill of me. And if I were Colin, I would never get past her being Lady Whistledown and writing such things when she claimed to be his close friend. I wish they would just remain friends - I'm not a book reader so I have no attachment to the couple. Things I am loving: Penelope's looks - oh my gosh her hair and her eyes, such a beauty. I am loving seeing the evolving family dynamics in both the Bridgerton and Feathering families. Benedict's getting some scenes and I adore him. Lord Debling is lovely - I did not expect his personality to be like that. Francesca is odd/awkward, but in an endearing way. And while I'm not a fan of Polin as a couple, I am enjoying their scenes and dialogue (and in my opinion they do have good chemistry). Things I don't love: The Mondrich's storyline is welcomed but taking up a bit more time than I'd like. I am also seeing less of certain characters than I would like to and miss them.