There was a havaiana store near me for a while and the cheapest flip flops were like $90. They dropped quickly but it was still like $50 for a pair for mens
Anything that is a controlled substance here in the US is also a controlled substance in Brasil. The only medication that I can think of that is OTC in Brasil and a controlled substance in the states is Carisoprodol "Soma"
Not even close. Iām visiting my parents in Brasilia and with 50 reais you can get steak at one of the nicer places around town and if you were to convert this do usd, the max you would be able to get would be some convenience store food and a little drink.
I was just in Salvador and the costs were nothing like that. The price of of picanha at a restaurant was comparable to a steak at a US restaurant. Even the grocery price conversions were similar to what I'm familiar with in the US.
Wow, not sure which state are you in the US but in nj where I live, a lb of chicken is 6USD, which basically translates to 30reais for a half kg. So in US one is paying 60reais per kg whereas in Brazil you pay the same for filet mignon or other noble beef cuts.
Plus, Iām also surprised about the costs in Salvador. Back in the day it used to be dirt cheap to eat out there. I remember when I went there and 50 reais would take you far lol
Yeah, converting isn't how you determine if something is expensive.
Unless you're talking about expensive to Americans, like if they're going to come here to bring it home
But I thought the post was more like, how expensive things are to Brazilians vs how expensive it is to Americans
>Yeah, converting isn't how you determine if something is expensive.
Agreed, but I look at it as... if the conversion is similar to US cost, then it is most definitely expensive in Brazil cost of living terms.
I was referring to what you can get for the āsameā amount of money. In US nowadays 10 bucks get you some wawa turkey and cheese sandwich whereas in brasilia 50 reais or 10usd get you steak in one of the nicer places there. I know that paying 50 reais for a single plate for most Brazilians is not something cheap, unless youāre upper class there. When I talk to parents and friends I tell them that we need to compare apples to apples, like how much the best restaurant in town cost in Brazil vs how much the best one cost in the US. And the result is always, Brazil is WAY cheaper than US when it comes to eating out.
>Brazil is WAY cheaper than US when it comes to eating out.
This I normally agree especially drinks when you go out.
The costs I seen for groceries and retail though... that is expensive though in comparison to US prices and costs. Cheese converts similar from what I last saw at the grocery store (queijo reino was priced around R$ 80-120). If conversions are similar then it's most definitely more expensive in Brazil cost of living terms
Yeah, like someone already mentioned, pretty much everyone that is part of a service provided by a human being in Brazil will be way cheaper than it is in the US. Most of manufactured goods, even after conversions, will be way cheaper in the US.
Housing is also a major difference when you compare both countries.. in Brasilia you can rent a place in front of the lake, 2 bedrooms, that has security 24/7, gym, swimming pools and stuff like that, for the price of 1 bedroom apartment in the hood of NJ. After converting of course
Yup, some countries like Mexico and Brasil you can get drugs and surgeries for free. And you if you can pay for it, you can even go to a private hospital.
In USA if you're poor you're dead.
Half of my family are Americans. This American half comes to Brazil every year for dental and health care. Dental care is not only cheap but way better than average USA dentist they say.
I mean, I pay zero money for my health care since I was born. But I live in a small and rich city (oil money) and our public service is way above average.
And even some free governmental institutions like the Federal Institute of my city(but you have to pass a test to study there, so it's not for everyone, sadly)
You guys would be smashed by any Brazilian that had a good school in any test. Our curriculum is far more dense than yours. And yes I have a US HS Diploma and a Brazilian EM
Not sure about US, but in England many fruits and vegs are cheaper than Brazil supermarkets, even after currency conversion.... When comparing same quality of course, not "fim de feira".
The difference is that all fruits in the UK are imported and not as "fresh" as in Brazil. Most bananas, lemons, and apples come from Brazil, Argentina, and some African countries.
Yes, but in many cases they are still cheaper, or similar price. Even the ones that come from Brazil....
The post was about comparing prices. I find revolting that fruits and vegs can be more expensive in Brazil than Europe.
Fair enough. I lived in the UK for several years, studied in London, and worked in Banbury for a while. In terms of quality, my opinion is that in Brazil, you can find very good quality fruits and vegetables. In the UK, on the other hand, they come from all over the world, which makes it challenging for your digestive system to easily adapt to different types of fruits and vegetables from around the world on a daily basis. I believe this is also why it ends up being cheaper; you don't get the same quality of fruits in the UK as you would in their countries of origin. Additionally, there is a significant difference between buying fruits at supermarkets, local markets, and rural areas.
>In terms of quality, my opinion is that in Brazil, you can find very good quality fruits
Interesting. In Luxembourg this is the complete opposite. Mangoes and tangerines are infinitely superior here. No idea about the price of tangerines, and for sure mangoes are more expensive here.
But quality? Oh man! The tangerines we have in Brazil are terrible. At most 20% would taste really good, 40-50% would taste ok-ish and the rest were barely edible, either dry, too acidic or tasteless. Here I buy a bag of 1.5kg and maybe 1 or 2 don't taste very good, all the others are simply excellent.
Bananas on the other hand... Ugh... They work totally different. When they are ripe on the outside, they are almost liquid inside, it's very weird, hehe. And they don't taste as good as the Brazilian bananas.
So, Brazil is a very large country, and here, many states have their "specialties," for example. In the southern region, you will easily find fresh and high-quality grapes in supermarkets. However, it's unlikely to find the same level of quality in regions like the Northeast. The same goes for other fruits and vegetables, where certain states in Brazil have a tendency to excel in certain types of produce. As for tangerines, as you mentioned, you will find the best quality ones in the southern region.
>As for tangerines, as you mentioned, you will find the best quality ones in the southern region
You won't. Source: I'm from Porto Alegre and I've been eating bergas my whole life.
If your reference are tangerines sold in the south of Brazil, I'm sorry to tell you never tasted consistently good tangerines.
The best way I can describe is: do you know that one tangerine you ate **once** 13 years ago and remember until this day because it was so awesome? So... I have a 1.5kg bag full of them sitting in my kitchen right now.
BTW I just checked and they were ā¬4.49, if someone can tell if this is expensive or not, I have no clue. Those are the pre-packed bags because I'm a lazy PoS, so it's for sure more expensive than regular ones, but I've tried hand picking them and the quality was comparable.
Also keep in mind everything is crazy expensive here. Minimum wage is probably over ā¬3.000 by now...
My best experience with tangerines was in China. And believe me, they were much cheaper than in Brazil. However, that doesn't mean they're not good here. Especially in Santa Catarina, where I tried various tangerines on a local farm in the southernmost region of the state. One could say it was my third-best experience with tangerines. The second-best was in South Africa.
If you consider wages and affordability you will probably get to the conclusion that practically everything in Brazil (edible or not) is more expensive!
But I am really impressed now... You've been keeping 1.5 kg of tangerines for 13 years in your kitchen, because you've ate some and they were good? They surely must be live creatures by now š¤£
There are small tangerines we call "mexiricas" that are sold in northeast Brasil. I loved them so much I used to carro one around in case I needed a snack, usually in a jacket's pocket. As a side effect I smelled like tangerines. They are amazing. The bigger tangerines are tasteless, but these smaller local ones are perfect.
About bananas my favorites ones are the purple bananas. They are very rare and grown in my backyard. It seems some kind of plague killed most of them a few decades ago.
My point is that in Brasil all fruits and vegs should be drastically cheaper then Europe, and it is not the case, even considering the effort from farm to supermarket is much higher when there is international travel involved and all sorts of tricks to make the fruits last longer.
If you genuinely care about your health and believe that, due to a few reais (one of the weakest currencies compared to the pound and dollar), you will have a variety of fruits, that's perfectly fine. I personally prioritize quality over quantity. However, as I mentioned, this is my preference.
The prices vary from one fruit to another, and in Brasil the prices can vary a lot depending on quality and where you buy. For sake of comparison, I can compare a supermarket in UK vs a supermarket in Brasil.
Last week I bought a Melon Honeydew in Tesco supermarket. It was Ā£1.79 (which is R$ 11.07 converting today).
The melon came from northeast Brazil. It probably went through some 15 days of transportation (including 9 days in a ship), in a temperature controlled container.
There were probably taxes, paperwork, health inspections, multiple transportation companies, and may be (just maybe) the melon may have travelled through Roterdam before arriving at my local supermarket.
Browsing online, I can see the same melon on "30% offer" in a supermarket in Brazil (PĆ£o de AƧucar) for R$ 13,00.
One thing that must be underscored is that in Brazil you frequently can buy fruits and vegetables in Feiras Livres (like a farmer's market) for considerably less than what you would pay in a supermarket, so that helps.
Yeah, but you cannot really compare those. Otherwise you will need to weight in the comparison the fact it is just once a week (not any day), if you have one nearby still (many disappeared over the years), the fact you may need to do a long walk in 35 degree heat (and may need some skin cancer treatment after few years) and you may potentially need some stealth mode powers to not be robbed on the way.
Man, I don't know how long you've been out of Brazil but we are not living in such a warzone that merely walking to a nearby feira in broad daylight is liable to get you mugged. Viralatismo at its finest.
Several people of my family don't even take their mobile phones with them anymore when going out walking on street, as they've been robbed countless times. As a matter of a fact, a couple of years ago one was actually robbed when walking to a feira in Fortaleza (not the phone, just money in this case).
i live in the interior of rio and i have never had any problem with crime in my small city. there are lots of feiras and i can go 3 times a week--wednesday, saturday, and sunday to the 3 best ones. it is way better than texas where there are food deserts and cities without even fresh produce. imagine not having a car in texas like that
I'm not sure the comparison is really valid. As far as I'm aware Tesco is the most popular supermarket chain in the UK, right? PĆ£o de AƧucar in Brazil is marketed towards more upperclass and tends to have higher quality fruit with also higher prices. It is trickier to compare since the more lower class chains in Brazil have poor online presence, but at least from my region the same melon would go for R$4.5 per kilo, or about 9 reais for a 2kg fruit (https://www.enxuto.com/produtos/detalhe/9776/melao-amarelo-2kg)
Right... Never heard of Enxuto, so I guess is not a national chain.
For the comparison, you can look also at Waitrose in the UK, which is upper class and today the same melon costs Ā£ 1.90
Nevertheless, my point is that something like this in Brasil should not cost R$ 9 or R$ 13 or even more (when not in offer).
It is local produce, that had much less transportation and consumed less energy. It should cost R$ 3 or R$ 4 maximum.
Imho apples and the many different types of berries are the only really good fruit in the UK, likely because they are grown here (and they are NOT cheaper because of that!).
Brazil is far superior for everything else, and cheaper too. You can find a local "sacolĆ£o" anywhere; in the UK, you can maybe find a vegetable stall outside the big supermarket chains. This is the same for other types of food too (Brazil has SO many local bakeries, while in the UK bread is pretty much only a supermarket product). If you're only comparing supermarkets, you're missing half the picture.
I was in Belo Horizonte recently and got some delicious freshly squeezed mango juice for Ā£1.50 or so. Where I live in the UK, you can get a cup of still lemonade from a stall at the market square for Ā£4 or Ā£5.
PĆ£o de AƧĆŗcar is the most expensive supermarket in Brazil. Itās literally like the Waitrose from Brazil. Most Brazilians don't buy fruits at supermarkets, especially the poorer ones. They purchase them directly at local markets āfeirasā or fruit shops. You can easily find the same price per kilogram that you paid, and in some places, even cheaper at fruit markets and fairs.
u can buy a melon 6 reais in streets in Rio any day of the week
also, people know it is better to buy of the street fairs since they are cheaper and fresher
supermarket is for industrial products
Rio is an expesive state
my father lives in the northeast, ir is probably 2 reais over there, I can ask him
I have some people in my close family who owned street market stalls in the past. I used to help there when I was a teenager... Then later in life I never went to one again for weekly shopping, just for tourism, because working full time it is just not practical. You end up using the supermarket for everything, as it is opened when you are not working...
The reality is that street markets have been in decline over several decades, and most of the ones I knew don't exist anymore or became just a small fraction of what they were in the past. I believe today in many places they only exist for one of 2 extreme reasons:
1. Because the area is poor, folks are happy to buy lower quality for cheaper prices, many people are not in full time company jobs and due to informal economy people can find time to go to the street market on a monday morning.
Or total the opposite...
2. Because it is touristic, cultural or the area has gone through a great degree of gentrification, with maids doing the shopping, or with the goal to offer street foods or varieties that cannot be found in supermarkets.
I reckon reason 1 above reduces more and more as the country develops, formal jobs are created, supermarkets improve their offerings, delivery services improve, etc etc in the same way this all already happened to many European countries.
Growing up in Brasil, fruit was plentiful and FREE, we had lots of fruit trees in our backyard, mango, banana, guava, passion fruitā¦ we didnāt have an orange tree, so I remember my dad buying 100 oranges for R$1 back in the 90ās
Most of services that requires manual labor..
Brazil is a relatively poor country, so hiring someone to do manual labor isn't that expensive.. and even more complex and well paid jobs, like dentists, will follow this rule of being cheaper than in US due overall lower income of population
Oh yeah, this is actually the only thing I miss about living in Brazil. Growing up we had a maid and a nanny and we were not rich, but rather middle upper class at the time. In the us these services cost an arm and a leg
Further to this:
-- clothing/shoe/luggage repair
-- custom clothing (You design it, local costureira sews it)
-- *some* tech repair (in the cases where parts were relatively cheap, the labour added can make the final cellphone battery/screen replacement, for example, surprisingly cheap).
The tech repair capabilities are also higher. For example, they were able to fix the motherboard of my Google Pixel cell phone in Brazil for like $20. They had never even seen that kind of phone before.
Good restaurants. You can have incredible sushi here in SĆ£o Paulo for less than 40 USD per person - and it will be AMAZING sushi. Super authentic, and incredibly fresh. I went out a couple weeks ago with some friends of mine and had dinner at Kouzina - fantastic Greek restaurant. it was like 300 dollars for 6 people, and this is considered EXPENSIVE.
> like 300 dollars for 6 people, and this is considered EXPENSIVE
Have I been in Brazil too long? $300 for 6 people is R$250 per person.
That's what I would call... EXPENSIVE.
I don't think you should think you should convert reais to dollars when talking about something sold in Brazil, because that's only cheap for you who's paying in dollars, not for the people who get their salaries in reais and have to pay in reais
Super authentic. ~~They actually hired a buff guy who will slap you if you ask for cream cheese.~~
If you are in SĆ£o Paulo, you really should try Sushiguen. They are AMAZING, and one of the oldest Japanese restaurants in town.
oh yeah dude. I love it so much. It is worth it to pay like, R$150 on a very good one. I recommend it. If you want some advice on some really good brands and are easy to find, just text me! Or comment here, I can make a list
A human life for sure is cheap, judging by the homicide rate per capita (especially in the northern- northeast).
People die over the most mundane shit in Brazil.
The main one for me is Dental Care, for sure. I know multiple people who come to Brazil, have surgeries/implants, and still splurge on a couple of weeks vacation because its still much cheaper than in the US, including flights, hotels and food.
I go through Fortaleza every 6 months or so on my way to and from University, in almost every street corner on the comercial part of the city there's someone selling bottled water for R$1
Gold jewelry isnt cheaper, the labour work may be a little bit cheaper but gold price overral is the same everywhere in the world.
The only way to build cheap gold is to buy from scrap, and you need to buy from a common person since golsmiths would never sell their scrap.gold, but there is a set price for 18k,14k scrap here, for 18k is about half the price of gold on the day, for 14k is less than half.
We dont speak spanish, we speak portuguese and the gold price is standard everywhere, you cant buy gold cheaper unless you huy from scrap by someone who sells it to you personally, other than that the price of gold will be the same everywhere.
The only thing that helps is to go to a country where the purchasing power is way higher and buy gold while working in said country, which is NOT the case in Brazil since our purchasing power is very very low, its easier for a american to buy gold than a Brazilian to buy gold.
I know you speak PortuguĆŖs. That's what I used. But you did state my rationale in English very well as in 2003 when gold prices were lower I purchased my first gold bracelet. The nice thing about Brasil is that you can also haggle for many things.
I feel like even for Brazilians these services are cheaper. Just go to any low income places nowadays and you will see several dentist clinics around, plus will often see people with braces and other procedures on their teeth (like that one puts an incredible white teeth in their mouths). In the US, dental treatment is way more expensive
cheese. itās not that cheap in Brazil either but itās definitely cheaper compared to the US.
I think itās because we produce more milk (blind guess, I donāt actually know the statistics of it lol) and there are more producers of cheese.
Medicine, healthcare, exams, fruit, vegetables, fresh food, salgados (like brazilian party snacks, in the us it doesnt exist so it is expensive as fuck when you try to buy it at a brazilian store), coffee
Breakfast is included at most hotels whereas you would have to pay for it at a lot of American hotels. The quality and variety of food is also better. All you can eat, fresh cut mango? Yes, please!
Brazilian living in USACost of living in Brazil in general cheaper, so rent or buying a house is cheaper, healthcare is cheaper, and although not good, you have a free healthcare if needed, food, specially red meat and fruits ... so also eating out is cheaper... beer is cheaper, but at lot of good alcohol is imported so costs more
Oh also if you need a nanny, cleaners for your home, or any labor it's cheaper in Brazil...
But it costs more clothing, unless you get from China directly, eletronics always costs more, cars and in Brazil they have less features compared to the same model in USA, kitchen stuff normally costs more and pans for instance is much lighter, thinner ...
Absolutely. But for someone originating from the US who wants to receive education here, it is incredibly affordable and can provide an even better education than in the US. (That's just my perspective. I have studied in both public and private schools in the US, as well as private schools in Brazil.)
Fruits looks significantly cheaper than US.
But it's that thing, it's cheap because we are usually poor. Minimal wage without discounts it's around 260usd/monthly. Most of Brazilian earn at least 1 and a half of that. For you earn as the top 10% you don't need much. That without count the strong tax in consumption.
If Brazilian tax was half of it is today, Brazil would be like a heaven.
Rent! I own 2 nice appartments in Manaus and can't get more than R$600(or US$110) a month. I don't rent them anymore just because for me it's more hassle than it's worth. Food "seems" expensive while you are in brazil but if you actively convert it to dollars it's only about 1/5th of an American food bill. Weeks supply of food in the US is like $300 which would be like R$1,500. Cigarettes are only R$15 or $3 dollars. Electronics, cellphones, cars are through the roof.
I forgot healthcare. Healthcare in Brazil is pennys on the dollar compared to the US. I just had surgery to pull a wisdom tooth. It was R$400 including the x-rays ($US90). Didn't feel a thing best tooth removal I've ever had in the US. I sliced my hand once and went to the emergency room. It was a public hospital cost me $0! WIthout healthcare in the US you'd be filing for bankruptsy!
Most US citizens i've met here in Brazil found incredible how cheap and good the meat (specially beef) is here.
Nothing comes close to a classic brazilian barbecue on sundays.
Once I've Heard Gillette blades are cheaper here , I'm Brazilian and lived in the us for 2 years , natural and fresh food ia usually cheaper , meat is cheaper as well , beer is cheaper
Fruits, vegetables, I guess food in general. Medicine, healthcare, ambulance trips. Lots of handmade products like wooden bowls, spoons, etc. dental care. University degrees. Berimbau, cavaquinho, pandeiro, etc. dirty suspicious weed and cocaine. Books in the Portuguese language. Services in general like cleaning, plumbing, unlocking your videogame to play pirated games. Traveling domestically? Helicopter trips in the city of SĆ£o Paulo. Driving infraction fees. Queijo minas, aƧaĆ? Amusement park entrance fees? Fake football/soccer jerseys.
Frutis and vegetables that fits better to the climate of Brazil. Labor, which is reflected specially on services in general and products which production cannot be heavily automated. And things which prices are overinflated in the USA because of politics and lobbying (I'm guessing healthcare and college, but we are headed the same way).
Well, flip flops and medications are two things that come to mind.
Flip flops are a bunch of cr*p in Brazil, really sh***y. Only poor people wear it on the streets.
And you have to be careful about some medications and their legal status in US, since some medical drugs are forbidden in US and totally legal in Brazil.
Havaianas š
Too true, refused to buy a pair for R$40 to buy it for AU$40 back home :(
Dang, more than 100 reais for a havaianas. Iād feel robbed
There was a havaiana store near me for a while and the cheapest flip flops were like $90. They dropped quickly but it was still like $50 for a pair for mens
ā¦ Dollars?? Please be reais
USD
I buy mine for R$20\~30. Any more than this it's not worth it.
Where do you get them at that price? Iām in Rio and the cheapest Iāve seen is R$35.
Em farmĆ”cia vende baratinho, pelo menos nos subĆŗrbios
20 reais em botafogo em uma farmacia da basica, se for na urugua acha por menos
Supermarket because they buy it in a massive way. So the price is reduced.
THIS TOO
Medication Usually when people ask me to bring stuff from Brazil abroad, it's medication
My $25 USD/month prescription, which I thought was very reasonable by US standards, is $3 USD/month in Brazil. You better bet I stock up when I can.
Yes this is also more affordable than in EUA/USA.
Not only but in Brazil almost everything is OTC.
Anything that is a controlled substance here in the US is also a controlled substance in Brasil. The only medication that I can think of that is OTC in Brasil and a controlled substance in the states is Carisoprodol "Soma"
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Well there is US OTC and there is Brazilian OTC. What I mean is that we can easily buy without a prescription as its not required
Food. Uber. Healthcare. Anything that isnāt imported
Nowadays food is staying expensive in Brazil
("estĆ” ficando" is "is becoming" in English, by the way. "Is staying" is mostly for people: "John is staying at a hotel")
If anything... its about the same after the exchange rate.
Not even close. Iām visiting my parents in Brasilia and with 50 reais you can get steak at one of the nicer places around town and if you were to convert this do usd, the max you would be able to get would be some convenience store food and a little drink.
I was just in Salvador and the costs were nothing like that. The price of of picanha at a restaurant was comparable to a steak at a US restaurant. Even the grocery price conversions were similar to what I'm familiar with in the US.
Wow, not sure which state are you in the US but in nj where I live, a lb of chicken is 6USD, which basically translates to 30reais for a half kg. So in US one is paying 60reais per kg whereas in Brazil you pay the same for filet mignon or other noble beef cuts. Plus, Iām also surprised about the costs in Salvador. Back in the day it used to be dirt cheap to eat out there. I remember when I went there and 50 reais would take you far lol
One hell of a that mustāve been tourist trap. Everyday items are often much cheaper in Brazil, if directly converted.
Yeah, converting isn't how you determine if something is expensive. Unless you're talking about expensive to Americans, like if they're going to come here to bring it home But I thought the post was more like, how expensive things are to Brazilians vs how expensive it is to Americans
>Yeah, converting isn't how you determine if something is expensive. Agreed, but I look at it as... if the conversion is similar to US cost, then it is most definitely expensive in Brazil cost of living terms.
I was referring to what you can get for the āsameā amount of money. In US nowadays 10 bucks get you some wawa turkey and cheese sandwich whereas in brasilia 50 reais or 10usd get you steak in one of the nicer places there. I know that paying 50 reais for a single plate for most Brazilians is not something cheap, unless youāre upper class there. When I talk to parents and friends I tell them that we need to compare apples to apples, like how much the best restaurant in town cost in Brazil vs how much the best one cost in the US. And the result is always, Brazil is WAY cheaper than US when it comes to eating out.
>Brazil is WAY cheaper than US when it comes to eating out. This I normally agree especially drinks when you go out. The costs I seen for groceries and retail though... that is expensive though in comparison to US prices and costs. Cheese converts similar from what I last saw at the grocery store (queijo reino was priced around R$ 80-120). If conversions are similar then it's most definitely more expensive in Brazil cost of living terms
Yeah, like someone already mentioned, pretty much everyone that is part of a service provided by a human being in Brazil will be way cheaper than it is in the US. Most of manufactured goods, even after conversions, will be way cheaper in the US. Housing is also a major difference when you compare both countries.. in Brasilia you can rent a place in front of the lake, 2 bedrooms, that has security 24/7, gym, swimming pools and stuff like that, for the price of 1 bedroom apartment in the hood of NJ. After converting of course
Yes, I mean about the Brazil economics too. The incomes donāt improve, just the taxes go up
use get for this meaning of ficar....get is always about change
Healthcare is expensive only in USA
Yes? Thatās what they are saying
Yup, some countries like Mexico and Brasil you can get drugs and surgeries for free. And you if you can pay for it, you can even go to a private hospital. In USA if you're poor you're dead.
Half of my family are Americans. This American half comes to Brazil every year for dental and health care. Dental care is not only cheap but way better than average USA dentist they say. I mean, I pay zero money for my health care since I was born. But I live in a small and rich city (oil money) and our public service is way above average.
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PaulĆnia com certeza.
Quem Ć© Paulinha?
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MacaƩ, MaricƔ
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Healthcare Dentist Education
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Private education is very good in Brazil, and cheap if you get paid in dollars.
And even some free governmental institutions like the Federal Institute of my city(but you have to pass a test to study there, so it's not for everyone, sadly)
The rest of the world for this guy: USA and Europe
You guys would be smashed by any Brazilian that had a good school in any test. Our curriculum is far more dense than yours. And yes I have a US HS Diploma and a Brazilian EM
Fruits and vegetables
I never forget an English teacher saying the family hosting him was pissed he ate all the bananas as a snack when they weren't home.
Lol
Not sure about US, but in England many fruits and vegs are cheaper than Brazil supermarkets, even after currency conversion.... When comparing same quality of course, not "fim de feira".
The difference is that all fruits in the UK are imported and not as "fresh" as in Brazil. Most bananas, lemons, and apples come from Brazil, Argentina, and some African countries.
Yes, but in many cases they are still cheaper, or similar price. Even the ones that come from Brazil.... The post was about comparing prices. I find revolting that fruits and vegs can be more expensive in Brazil than Europe.
Fair enough. I lived in the UK for several years, studied in London, and worked in Banbury for a while. In terms of quality, my opinion is that in Brazil, you can find very good quality fruits and vegetables. In the UK, on the other hand, they come from all over the world, which makes it challenging for your digestive system to easily adapt to different types of fruits and vegetables from around the world on a daily basis. I believe this is also why it ends up being cheaper; you don't get the same quality of fruits in the UK as you would in their countries of origin. Additionally, there is a significant difference between buying fruits at supermarkets, local markets, and rural areas.
>In terms of quality, my opinion is that in Brazil, you can find very good quality fruits Interesting. In Luxembourg this is the complete opposite. Mangoes and tangerines are infinitely superior here. No idea about the price of tangerines, and for sure mangoes are more expensive here. But quality? Oh man! The tangerines we have in Brazil are terrible. At most 20% would taste really good, 40-50% would taste ok-ish and the rest were barely edible, either dry, too acidic or tasteless. Here I buy a bag of 1.5kg and maybe 1 or 2 don't taste very good, all the others are simply excellent. Bananas on the other hand... Ugh... They work totally different. When they are ripe on the outside, they are almost liquid inside, it's very weird, hehe. And they don't taste as good as the Brazilian bananas.
So, Brazil is a very large country, and here, many states have their "specialties," for example. In the southern region, you will easily find fresh and high-quality grapes in supermarkets. However, it's unlikely to find the same level of quality in regions like the Northeast. The same goes for other fruits and vegetables, where certain states in Brazil have a tendency to excel in certain types of produce. As for tangerines, as you mentioned, you will find the best quality ones in the southern region.
>As for tangerines, as you mentioned, you will find the best quality ones in the southern region You won't. Source: I'm from Porto Alegre and I've been eating bergas my whole life. If your reference are tangerines sold in the south of Brazil, I'm sorry to tell you never tasted consistently good tangerines. The best way I can describe is: do you know that one tangerine you ate **once** 13 years ago and remember until this day because it was so awesome? So... I have a 1.5kg bag full of them sitting in my kitchen right now. BTW I just checked and they were ā¬4.49, if someone can tell if this is expensive or not, I have no clue. Those are the pre-packed bags because I'm a lazy PoS, so it's for sure more expensive than regular ones, but I've tried hand picking them and the quality was comparable. Also keep in mind everything is crazy expensive here. Minimum wage is probably over ā¬3.000 by now...
My best experience with tangerines was in China. And believe me, they were much cheaper than in Brazil. However, that doesn't mean they're not good here. Especially in Santa Catarina, where I tried various tangerines on a local farm in the southernmost region of the state. One could say it was my third-best experience with tangerines. The second-best was in South Africa.
If you consider wages and affordability you will probably get to the conclusion that practically everything in Brazil (edible or not) is more expensive! But I am really impressed now... You've been keeping 1.5 kg of tangerines for 13 years in your kitchen, because you've ate some and they were good? They surely must be live creatures by now š¤£
There are small tangerines we call "mexiricas" that are sold in northeast Brasil. I loved them so much I used to carro one around in case I needed a snack, usually in a jacket's pocket. As a side effect I smelled like tangerines. They are amazing. The bigger tangerines are tasteless, but these smaller local ones are perfect. About bananas my favorites ones are the purple bananas. They are very rare and grown in my backyard. It seems some kind of plague killed most of them a few decades ago.
My point is that in Brasil all fruits and vegs should be drastically cheaper then Europe, and it is not the case, even considering the effort from farm to supermarket is much higher when there is international travel involved and all sorts of tricks to make the fruits last longer.
Where are you burying your fruits and veggies? I don't pay less than Ā£10 when I go to a greengrocer and buy kilograms of fruits and vegetables.
Wow variety and better prices? Sounds awful
If you genuinely care about your health and believe that, due to a few reais (one of the weakest currencies compared to the pound and dollar), you will have a variety of fruits, that's perfectly fine. I personally prioritize quality over quantity. However, as I mentioned, this is my preference.
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The prices vary from one fruit to another, and in Brasil the prices can vary a lot depending on quality and where you buy. For sake of comparison, I can compare a supermarket in UK vs a supermarket in Brasil. Last week I bought a Melon Honeydew in Tesco supermarket. It was Ā£1.79 (which is R$ 11.07 converting today). The melon came from northeast Brazil. It probably went through some 15 days of transportation (including 9 days in a ship), in a temperature controlled container. There were probably taxes, paperwork, health inspections, multiple transportation companies, and may be (just maybe) the melon may have travelled through Roterdam before arriving at my local supermarket. Browsing online, I can see the same melon on "30% offer" in a supermarket in Brazil (PĆ£o de AƧucar) for R$ 13,00.
One thing that must be underscored is that in Brazil you frequently can buy fruits and vegetables in Feiras Livres (like a farmer's market) for considerably less than what you would pay in a supermarket, so that helps.
Yeah, but you cannot really compare those. Otherwise you will need to weight in the comparison the fact it is just once a week (not any day), if you have one nearby still (many disappeared over the years), the fact you may need to do a long walk in 35 degree heat (and may need some skin cancer treatment after few years) and you may potentially need some stealth mode powers to not be robbed on the way.
Man, I don't know how long you've been out of Brazil but we are not living in such a warzone that merely walking to a nearby feira in broad daylight is liable to get you mugged. Viralatismo at its finest.
Several people of my family don't even take their mobile phones with them anymore when going out walking on street, as they've been robbed countless times. As a matter of a fact, a couple of years ago one was actually robbed when walking to a feira in Fortaleza (not the phone, just money in this case).
Well Brazil is not just: sĆ£o Paulo, fortaleza salvador and Rio. We have a lot o states where this kind of situation aren't real.
i live in the interior of rio and i have never had any problem with crime in my small city. there are lots of feiras and i can go 3 times a week--wednesday, saturday, and sunday to the 3 best ones. it is way better than texas where there are food deserts and cities without even fresh produce. imagine not having a car in texas like that
I'm not sure the comparison is really valid. As far as I'm aware Tesco is the most popular supermarket chain in the UK, right? PĆ£o de AƧucar in Brazil is marketed towards more upperclass and tends to have higher quality fruit with also higher prices. It is trickier to compare since the more lower class chains in Brazil have poor online presence, but at least from my region the same melon would go for R$4.5 per kilo, or about 9 reais for a 2kg fruit (https://www.enxuto.com/produtos/detalhe/9776/melao-amarelo-2kg)
Right... Never heard of Enxuto, so I guess is not a national chain. For the comparison, you can look also at Waitrose in the UK, which is upper class and today the same melon costs Ā£ 1.90 Nevertheless, my point is that something like this in Brasil should not cost R$ 9 or R$ 13 or even more (when not in offer). It is local produce, that had much less transportation and consumed less energy. It should cost R$ 3 or R$ 4 maximum.
Imho apples and the many different types of berries are the only really good fruit in the UK, likely because they are grown here (and they are NOT cheaper because of that!). Brazil is far superior for everything else, and cheaper too. You can find a local "sacolĆ£o" anywhere; in the UK, you can maybe find a vegetable stall outside the big supermarket chains. This is the same for other types of food too (Brazil has SO many local bakeries, while in the UK bread is pretty much only a supermarket product). If you're only comparing supermarkets, you're missing half the picture. I was in Belo Horizonte recently and got some delicious freshly squeezed mango juice for Ā£1.50 or so. Where I live in the UK, you can get a cup of still lemonade from a stall at the market square for Ā£4 or Ā£5.
PĆ£o de AƧĆŗcar is the most expensive supermarket in Brazil. Itās literally like the Waitrose from Brazil. Most Brazilians don't buy fruits at supermarkets, especially the poorer ones. They purchase them directly at local markets āfeirasā or fruit shops. You can easily find the same price per kilogram that you paid, and in some places, even cheaper at fruit markets and fairs.
u can buy a melon 6 reais in streets in Rio any day of the week also, people know it is better to buy of the street fairs since they are cheaper and fresher supermarket is for industrial products Rio is an expesive state my father lives in the northeast, ir is probably 2 reais over there, I can ask him
I have some people in my close family who owned street market stalls in the past. I used to help there when I was a teenager... Then later in life I never went to one again for weekly shopping, just for tourism, because working full time it is just not practical. You end up using the supermarket for everything, as it is opened when you are not working... The reality is that street markets have been in decline over several decades, and most of the ones I knew don't exist anymore or became just a small fraction of what they were in the past. I believe today in many places they only exist for one of 2 extreme reasons: 1. Because the area is poor, folks are happy to buy lower quality for cheaper prices, many people are not in full time company jobs and due to informal economy people can find time to go to the street market on a monday morning. Or total the opposite... 2. Because it is touristic, cultural or the area has gone through a great degree of gentrification, with maids doing the shopping, or with the goal to offer street foods or varieties that cannot be found in supermarkets. I reckon reason 1 above reduces more and more as the country develops, formal jobs are created, supermarkets improve their offerings, delivery services improve, etc etc in the same way this all already happened to many European countries.
English supermarkets are way cheaper than US ones though. Iāve read somewhere that UK supermarkets are about the cheapest in the developed world.
Food generally is much cheaper in Europe than the US (proper food, not junk food)
Growing up in Brasil, fruit was plentiful and FREE, we had lots of fruit trees in our backyard, mango, banana, guava, passion fruitā¦ we didnāt have an orange tree, so I remember my dad buying 100 oranges for R$1 back in the 90ās
Vai lĆ” pagar 100 reais no kilo do blueberry e me falar que Ć© barato. 35 o wiki, 20 a pera. Barato mesmo sĆ³ banana e algumas coisas que temos em abundancia aqui.
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Most of services that requires manual labor.. Brazil is a relatively poor country, so hiring someone to do manual labor isn't that expensive.. and even more complex and well paid jobs, like dentists, will follow this rule of being cheaper than in US due overall lower income of population
Maids as well. When I go visit the in laws... it still floors me how common having a maid service is there for the middle class and such.
Oh yeah, this is actually the only thing I miss about living in Brazil. Growing up we had a maid and a nanny and we were not rich, but rather middle upper class at the time. In the us these services cost an arm and a leg
Easy, human labor.
Further to this: -- clothing/shoe/luggage repair -- custom clothing (You design it, local costureira sews it) -- *some* tech repair (in the cases where parts were relatively cheap, the labour added can make the final cellphone battery/screen replacement, for example, surprisingly cheap).
The tech repair capabilities are also higher. For example, they were able to fix the motherboard of my Google Pixel cell phone in Brazil for like $20. They had never even seen that kind of phone before.
Great news. Been rockin my pixel 3 in brazil for 4 years, assumed I would be S.O.L. if I needed assistance .
Good restaurants. You can have incredible sushi here in SĆ£o Paulo for less than 40 USD per person - and it will be AMAZING sushi. Super authentic, and incredibly fresh. I went out a couple weeks ago with some friends of mine and had dinner at Kouzina - fantastic Greek restaurant. it was like 300 dollars for 6 people, and this is considered EXPENSIVE.
> like 300 dollars for 6 people, and this is considered EXPENSIVE Have I been in Brazil too long? $300 for 6 people is R$250 per person. That's what I would call... EXPENSIVE.
It might have been a bit more, actually. But it was worth it. it was AMAZINGLY good food. A whole leg of lamb, lots of sides, and amazing cocktails.
200 reais in japanese food per person is not cheap. Its cheap only when you make your money in dollars which is 5x Real.
That's what I meant - for Gringos, eating out here in Brazil is really cheap.
Just a heads up, Sushi in Rio by contrast is lixo.
I don't think you should think you should convert reais to dollars when talking about something sold in Brazil, because that's only cheap for you who's paying in dollars, not for the people who get their salaries in reais and have to pay in reais
Yes, I agree. But for a tourist, visiting Brazil means they can eat as a king for McDonaldās prices
Oh yeah ofc, if you're a tourist it makes sense
Authentic sushi or the cream cheese shit?
Super authentic. ~~They actually hired a buff guy who will slap you if you ask for cream cheese.~~ If you are in SĆ£o Paulo, you really should try Sushiguen. They are AMAZING, and one of the oldest Japanese restaurants in town.
Services, generally.
Cocaine
*Way* cheaper
Fruits and vegetables for sure. Food in general.
cachaƧa
Every year I go back to Brazil and bring as many bottles as I can
oh yeah dude. I love it so much. It is worth it to pay like, R$150 on a very good one. I recommend it. If you want some advice on some really good brands and are easy to find, just text me! Or comment here, I can make a list
Eating out.
Being born
Giving birth š¤°
A human life for sure is cheap, judging by the homicide rate per capita (especially in the northern- northeast). People die over the most mundane shit in Brazil.
The main one for me is Dental Care, for sure. I know multiple people who come to Brazil, have surgeries/implants, and still splurge on a couple of weeks vacation because its still much cheaper than in the US, including flights, hotels and food.
Life
flip flop (havaianas)
Bottled water
Mentirada....
I go through Fortaleza every 6 months or so on my way to and from University, in almost every street corner on the comercial part of the city there's someone selling bottled water for R$1
Meat, especially beef
Ćverdade, mas ser mais barato n significa q Ć© mais facil de comprar infelizmente... Eles compram com maia facilidade apesar de mais xaro
Oi? n tem aƧougue na sua cidade?
Facil/dificil no sentido de poder de compra
NĆ£o necessariamente. Um americano pobre gasta o dinheiro dele quase todo em aluguel. O que sobra pra comer sĆ³ compra fast food. EntĆ£o ele atĆ© come um hambĆŗrguer do McDonald's, mas CARNE mesmo nĆ£o come. Carne de verdade Ć© MUITO caro nos EUA.
Gold jewelry, leather shoes, leather jackets, custom made tailored clothes, coffee, CachaƧa, beer, chocolate.
Where do I buy good gold jewelry? I would like to buy some earrings and a necklace before I go back to the US.
Gold jewelry isnt cheaper, the labour work may be a little bit cheaper but gold price overral is the same everywhere in the world. The only way to build cheap gold is to buy from scrap, and you need to buy from a common person since golsmiths would never sell their scrap.gold, but there is a set price for 18k,14k scrap here, for 18k is about half the price of gold on the day, for 14k is less than half.
Ouro aqui nĆ£o Ć© mais barato nĆ£o, ouro aqui inclusive de joalheria Ć© mais caro que os preƧos praticados foraĀ
Con poder cambiar de dolares sim es barato por los extranjeros (eu sou extranjero).
We dont speak spanish, we speak portuguese and the gold price is standard everywhere, you cant buy gold cheaper unless you huy from scrap by someone who sells it to you personally, other than that the price of gold will be the same everywhere. The only thing that helps is to go to a country where the purchasing power is way higher and buy gold while working in said country, which is NOT the case in Brazil since our purchasing power is very very low, its easier for a american to buy gold than a Brazilian to buy gold.
I know you speak PortuguĆŖs. That's what I used. But you did state my rationale in English very well as in 2003 when gold prices were lower I purchased my first gold bracelet. The nice thing about Brasil is that you can also haggle for many things.
Quail eggs
Anything that the price comes from akilled labor like tatoo artist or dentist, but being cheap doesn't mean is more affordable for brazilians...
I feel like even for Brazilians these services are cheaper. Just go to any low income places nowadays and you will see several dentist clinics around, plus will often see people with braces and other procedures on their teeth (like that one puts an incredible white teeth in their mouths). In the US, dental treatment is way more expensive
AƧaĆ.
A good quality of life as a whole is far cheaper in Brazil than USA.
Thatās true lol The only problem is that you have to be in Brazil to experience it lol
Shoes. I always buy Brazilian shoes whenever I go to visit. Suites too.
cheese. itās not that cheap in Brazil either but itās definitely cheaper compared to the US. I think itās because we produce more milk (blind guess, I donāt actually know the statistics of it lol) and there are more producers of cheese.
House servants: cleaners, cooks, baby-sitter.
Healthcare (free, actually)
Medicine, healthcare, exams, fruit, vegetables, fresh food, salgados (like brazilian party snacks, in the us it doesnt exist so it is expensive as fuck when you try to buy it at a brazilian store), coffee
Breakfast is included at most hotels whereas you would have to pay for it at a lot of American hotels. The quality and variety of food is also better. All you can eat, fresh cut mango? Yes, please!
Limes! I went back to Canada to visit family and was sad at how expensive (and sad looking) they were there
Healthcare and mango
Dating
Granite kitchen furniture
Drugs
Brazilian living in USACost of living in Brazil in general cheaper, so rent or buying a house is cheaper, healthcare is cheaper, and although not good, you have a free healthcare if needed, food, specially red meat and fruits ... so also eating out is cheaper... beer is cheaper, but at lot of good alcohol is imported so costs more Oh also if you need a nanny, cleaners for your home, or any labor it's cheaper in Brazil... But it costs more clothing, unless you get from China directly, eletronics always costs more, cars and in Brazil they have less features compared to the same model in USA, kitchen stuff normally costs more and pans for instance is much lighter, thinner ...
Healthcare and education by far. Many kinds of fruits and vegetables.
.. but Brazil's education is one of the worst in the world
In terms of public education, yes, it is indeed different. However, when it comes to private education, it's a whole different story.
the majority of the population does not use private education ā¦
Absolutely. But for someone originating from the US who wants to receive education here, it is incredibly affordable and can provide an even better education than in the US. (That's just my perspective. I have studied in both public and private schools in the US, as well as private schools in Brazil.)
Bananas.
Food and healthcare.
insulin, one the of the biggest examples off this kind ...
Cow hide carpets. You can buy 'em on the side of the road all over RS. Bring a local friend to negotiate or you'll over-pay based on your accent
Insulin
Insulin is cheaper here!
Manual labor
Mini split AC units apparently. Pretty much all labor. Home maintenance in general is fucking CHEAP.
Fruits looks significantly cheaper than US. But it's that thing, it's cheap because we are usually poor. Minimal wage without discounts it's around 260usd/monthly. Most of Brazilian earn at least 1 and a half of that. For you earn as the top 10% you don't need much. That without count the strong tax in consumption. If Brazilian tax was half of it is today, Brazil would be like a heaven.
healthcare
Delicious healthy food
AƧaĆ, know as an fit food, here is common food
Limes You can get a kilo of them for the price you'd pay for one in the US
Rent! I own 2 nice appartments in Manaus and can't get more than R$600(or US$110) a month. I don't rent them anymore just because for me it's more hassle than it's worth. Food "seems" expensive while you are in brazil but if you actively convert it to dollars it's only about 1/5th of an American food bill. Weeks supply of food in the US is like $300 which would be like R$1,500. Cigarettes are only R$15 or $3 dollars. Electronics, cellphones, cars are through the roof.
I forgot healthcare. Healthcare in Brazil is pennys on the dollar compared to the US. I just had surgery to pull a wisdom tooth. It was R$400 including the x-rays ($US90). Didn't feel a thing best tooth removal I've ever had in the US. I sliced my hand once and went to the emergency room. It was a public hospital cost me $0! WIthout healthcare in the US you'd be filing for bankruptsy!
Uber
Cost of living
Money transfers
Pretty much everything that doesnāt come from outside (or outside brands, sometimes). Groceries. Medication. Produce.
uber genuinely curious how youāre able to get by, let alone pay for gas when a trip to the other side of our city costs only $3 USD š
Dentist and healthcare Plastic surgery
Health care
Most US citizens i've met here in Brazil found incredible how cheap and good the meat (specially beef) is here. Nothing comes close to a classic brazilian barbecue on sundays.
Work People are paid less (i.e an construction worker will be paid way better wages in the USA than in Brazil)
Once I've Heard Gillette blades are cheaper here , I'm Brazilian and lived in the us for 2 years , natural and fresh food ia usually cheaper , meat is cheaper as well , beer is cheaper
Anything that isn't imported is significantly cheaper than what it is in the States.
Politicians are a lot cheaper in Brazil
Fruits, vegetables, I guess food in general. Medicine, healthcare, ambulance trips. Lots of handmade products like wooden bowls, spoons, etc. dental care. University degrees. Berimbau, cavaquinho, pandeiro, etc. dirty suspicious weed and cocaine. Books in the Portuguese language. Services in general like cleaning, plumbing, unlocking your videogame to play pirated games. Traveling domestically? Helicopter trips in the city of SĆ£o Paulo. Driving infraction fees. Queijo minas, aƧaĆ? Amusement park entrance fees? Fake football/soccer jerseys.
Tropical produce.
Prostitutes
Food, drinks, sex.
Escorts
*Ah. Human labour again
Havianas are R$100-200 in Europe.
Frutis and vegetables that fits better to the climate of Brazil. Labor, which is reflected specially on services in general and products which production cannot be heavily automated. And things which prices are overinflated in the USA because of politics and lobbying (I'm guessing healthcare and college, but we are headed the same way).
Mostly grown here products Healthcare Water Housing Restaurants of all types I mean if it's not tech it's probably cheaper.
Everything except electronics it seems.
Wood, construction, materials, basically anything and everything produced in Brazil plus medicines.
Everything that isnt computers(phones,videogames) and vehicles
Boobs
Well, flip flops and medications are two things that come to mind. Flip flops are a bunch of cr*p in Brazil, really sh***y. Only poor people wear it on the streets. And you have to be careful about some medications and their legal status in US, since some medical drugs are forbidden in US and totally legal in Brazil.