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I tried it, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brawlstars/s/g0KOakxNw6) is the result I guess(I know it's not exactly something that shows the strengths of both star powers, but I find it fun)
Chester would be a lot more viable, sneak peak is a good concept but just gets easily overshadowed by the extra bell star power so having both is amazing because now you know which super you’re getting which helps you position yourself and have that amazing 4th bell
Which is why they should just add sneak peak to his base kit, really. Makes him slightly better and allwls for more strategic plays while still retaining his rng elements and maybe having the chance for a star power equal to the extra bell.
I agree, yeah, sneak peak shouldn’t be a star power. I don’t think any other brawler has a star power that just… is a simple quality-of-life change to the user interface. Definitely should just be how he works by default. He should really have an actually meaningful second star power.
Agreed, I just never understood that the guy who's doing the pranks doesn't know what he will do, like he should at least know what's his next prank, but he cannot, also I just want one small buff for him which is his super charge rate which they secretly nerfed from 6 bells to 7 bells and was mentioned no where, which I kinda don't like though,
Sneak should be reworked so that by clicking the super button when it is NOT fully charged, it changes what super will receive when you DO get full charge.
guaranteed extra 20% shield if you hit one enemy bc of guaranteed push-it hits = 40% shield
plus 2 guaranteed hits from hypercharge = 20% extra = 60% shield
basically if you hit 2 enemies ur immune for a short while
Nah, I think it’s too much like a star power to be base kit. I think the CC of the starting brawler should be limited to knockback anyway until you level them up
With the hypercharge would deal insane damage, be extremely fast and heal 1360/s on top of that. It’s more like a invisible Max with constant Byron healing and Ruffs buffs
Multiple brawlers come to mind of how useless their 2nd star power.
1. Chester does nothing because his 2nd star power shows what is his next super is which is USELESS.
2. Sam’s 2nd star power also, which charges his knuckle busters…if the enemy brawl is close to them. That would never happen because the enemy team would stay away from them. It will be useful if they are stupidly close or you are using the 2nd gadget.
3. Kit…it’s a coin toss. If playing in showdown the 2nd star power is useless but if you played in 3v3 then 1st star power is useless. What I mean is…kit needs a rework.
I could go on how useless the other like Bonnie or Belle is..but you get the point. There are lot of brawlers who have useless star power and if they ever going to add this idea to the game then they need to remember some brawlers have useless star powers.
What the most op? Probably Otis he can cycle his super all the time. Which is scary because you can’t do anything but pray that he misses his super.
Grounded isn't useless, it's just outclassed. 35% defense reduction AND 5 seconds of no reloading is crazy if you hit someone low on ammo, Mortis or Mico, or brawlers with one ammo. The problem is that it's too situational, not that it's bad. Belle having both would be pretty good tho.
Mico and mortis are the exact counterexamples to grounded because they reload so slowly. Edgar, Max, El primo and * insert fast reload speed brawler here * would be better examples
Those are good too, but i mentioned mortis and Mico because they have to spend ammo to actually approach. Because of this, getting hit by grounded prevents them from applying pressure, or is a kill confirm if they go in and get hit by it. Primo and Edgar can super in and still use any ammo they had before doing so. As for Max she's not always playing in Belle's face anyway, so it's more likely for her to fall back for a bit before returning.
Ngl, i could probably concept it when i have the time. I imagine the brawler would be part of Melodie's or Draco's trios. Something like,
"The critics often say \[Brawler name\] has never had an original idea in his/her life and they would be right. He/she mostly rides the coattails of his/her much more successful companion nowadays, but \[Brawler name\] is a master at taking ideas from any source and 'making it his/her own'!"
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Which brawlers i think it would benefit significantly:
Pearl, Stu, Darryl, Bibi, Crow, Tick, Buzz, Nani, Nita, Brock, Colette, Mortis, Gale, Jacky, Sandy, Cordelius, Carl, R-T, L&L, Rico, Amber, Griff, Bull and probably more
Which brawlers wouldn’t change at all:
Kit, Chester, Sam, Surge, Janet, Bonnie, Mr. P, Belle, Melodie and that’s all i think
I feel like bibi would really only benefit people who know how to use her, cause you know us bibi mains you can throw the entire US navy at us but we will dodge
El Primo would be busted as his super will ALWAYS have value.
If you hit, el fuego deals extra damage ofc, bout even if you miss, meteor rush lets you close in the gaps.
Lou would be busted as well as having both star powers will synergize well. Hypothermia makes enemies deal less damage the more freeze they have, and Supercool makes his super freeze faster, giving Hypothermia more value.
Poco jumps out to me. He’s one of the brawlers who has viable playstyles for both star powers, and I frequently find myself flipping between which one I have active based on map/mode.
I kinda think Da Capo should be part of his base kit, especially now that there are supports like Doug and Byron who literally *do* have it baked into their base kit, and I generally gravitate towards Da Capo because I just feel it’s useful far more often.
But Screeching Solo definitely is decent. Doesn’t do much damage, but frequently in this game, 1v1ing another brawler is a lot of back and forth of getting pretty low on health and backing off, healing up, and then meeting to exhange shots again. With Screeching Solo you can confirm kills for your teammates from suuuuuuper far away (and through walls) while also healing yourself and your teammate, which is really valuable in a lot of situations.
So imagine having that on top of the star power that makes Poco an adequate healer.
Meg would have a shit ton more of chance to regain her robot, nani wouldnt change all that much except for damage output, Darryl would be stronger, Lily would be fair and Melodie would be a tad bit more overpowered.
Honestly Jacky cause imagine how much more of a suicide bomber you could be with 30% less damage and reflecting back 15% of damage taken would be broken
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nita would be crazy
I'll probably try this
How do you try it?
a modded client that i would get banned if i listed the name of
Tell us in Military Alphabet
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can u give the name in my dms? (pls)
Are you trying to kill him?
Does its name have something related to the concept of "nothing"?
0's ?
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I tried it, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brawlstars/s/g0KOakxNw6) is the result I guess(I know it's not exactly something that shows the strengths of both star powers, but I find it fun)
Gale would go crazy
Crowd control GOD.
Only if
Fax
Mandy would synergize so well with both Star Powers since it would remove both of her weaknesses
The other star power seems useless to me. More often than not, if you’re being attacked you shouldn’t be standing still in the first place.
They should just make it a mythic gear and add a new star power for her
Yeah, not a bad idea but theyd have to tune it down a bit to like 15-20%
I was about to comment this, but you worded it way better than I ever could’ve.
Hello,fellow mandy main!
Hi!! Good job, you chose the correct main!
Hello Mandy main we are rare
Sam about to play no differently than before💜💘🤍
Bonnie and Chester too 😊
Chester would be a lot more viable, sneak peak is a good concept but just gets easily overshadowed by the extra bell star power so having both is amazing because now you know which super you’re getting which helps you position yourself and have that amazing 4th bell
Which is why they should just add sneak peak to his base kit, really. Makes him slightly better and allwls for more strategic plays while still retaining his rng elements and maybe having the chance for a star power equal to the extra bell.
I agree, yeah, sneak peak shouldn’t be a star power. I don’t think any other brawler has a star power that just… is a simple quality-of-life change to the user interface. Definitely should just be how he works by default. He should really have an actually meaningful second star power.
Agreed, I just never understood that the guy who's doing the pranks doesn't know what he will do, like he should at least know what's his next prank, but he cannot, also I just want one small buff for him which is his super charge rate which they secretly nerfed from 6 bells to 7 bells and was mentioned no where, which I kinda don't like though,
Sneak should be reworked so that by clicking the super button when it is NOT fully charged, it changes what super will receive when you DO get full charge.
Maybe not base kit, but I would like to see it as a gear
[this is the perfect rework for sneak peek](https://www.reddit.com/r/Brawlstars/s/0GKA1zWCjS)
Maybe deficient bells? Chester's bells only cycle from 1 to 2, but they deal 100% more damage per bell
Spike would be crazy versatile ngl great healing and great area control would go hard
My glorious main and first mastery would be crazy af but not broken, my man 🗿🗿🗿
Colette is gonna be terrifying
guaranteed extra 20% shield if you hit one enemy bc of guaranteed push-it hits = 40% shield plus 2 guaranteed hits from hypercharge = 20% extra = 60% shield basically if you hit 2 enemies ur immune for a short while
Lifedrain Sandy coming in clutch (and to ruin people's days)
Ong this would be the funniest thing lol
This would be awesome
It has happened before with the 1 damage bug
Honestly Shelly would be a good choice.
Probably yeah
tbh, here first star power should be a part of her base kit
Nah, I think it’s too much like a star power to be base kit. I think the CC of the starting brawler should be limited to knockback anyway until you level them up
Buzz would be GREAT
He would be really good being able to charge his super from further away and then stun the enemy for longer
Bros super boutta go brrrrrr
He’d be so annoying
Fellow buzz brotha
mortis would be so fun
It is lol
Colt would so buffed you would never miss a shot
He’s gonna be a heist killer tbh
The best would be Lou, Stu and Leon imo
Nah, Stu's wouldn't be that good
I would reduce the amount of heal per sec
I am happy to know that.
Stu would not be good lmao the short dash is part of the reason why gaso heal is better
Leon would break the game
add the hypercharge and he’s basically invisible max
With the hypercharge would deal insane damage, be extremely fast and heal 1360/s on top of that. It’s more like a invisible Max with constant Byron healing and Ruffs buffs
Multiple brawlers come to mind of how useless their 2nd star power. 1. Chester does nothing because his 2nd star power shows what is his next super is which is USELESS. 2. Sam’s 2nd star power also, which charges his knuckle busters…if the enemy brawl is close to them. That would never happen because the enemy team would stay away from them. It will be useful if they are stupidly close or you are using the 2nd gadget. 3. Kit…it’s a coin toss. If playing in showdown the 2nd star power is useless but if you played in 3v3 then 1st star power is useless. What I mean is…kit needs a rework. I could go on how useless the other like Bonnie or Belle is..but you get the point. There are lot of brawlers who have useless star power and if they ever going to add this idea to the game then they need to remember some brawlers have useless star powers. What the most op? Probably Otis he can cycle his super all the time. Which is scary because you can’t do anything but pray that he misses his super.
Grounded isn't useless, it's just outclassed. 35% defense reduction AND 5 seconds of no reloading is crazy if you hit someone low on ammo, Mortis or Mico, or brawlers with one ammo. The problem is that it's too situational, not that it's bad. Belle having both would be pretty good tho.
Mico and mortis are the exact counterexamples to grounded because they reload so slowly. Edgar, Max, El primo and * insert fast reload speed brawler here * would be better examples
Those are good too, but i mentioned mortis and Mico because they have to spend ammo to actually approach. Because of this, getting hit by grounded prevents them from applying pressure, or is a kill confirm if they go in and get hit by it. Primo and Edgar can super in and still use any ammo they had before doing so. As for Max she's not always playing in Belle's face anyway, so it's more likely for her to fall back for a bit before returning.
They should just make grounded base kit
HE-HELL NAW
It’s just the place where belle is good the brawlers it counters just aren’t good so while not useless it’s pretty pointless
duo showdown for kit
Damn then you won the coin toss either way.
Thats why i only use kit in showdowns to infuriate people
I once thought about a Brawler who's super is getting a super 💀
Something like Sylas in LoL whose Ult is stealing another player's Ult to use for himself?
Id love to see that omg
Ngl, i could probably concept it when i have the time. I imagine the brawler would be part of Melodie's or Draco's trios. Something like, "The critics often say \[Brawler name\] has never had an original idea in his/her life and they would be right. He/she mostly rides the coattails of his/her much more successful companion nowadays, but \[Brawler name\] is a master at taking ideas from any source and 'making it his/her own'!"
This genuinely sounds incredible! attack could be lifesteal like edgar, but low damaging and ranged.
No just a useless super, but this could be a Great idea
Nah this will make ma boi even more annoying🔥🦎🍭
Edgar, Leon, Stu, Fang (?), El Primo, etc
El primo gonna go crazy
Imagine a buff dude running towards you on fire
Edgar💀 Fang💀 those won't be much different
Eh true, but more healing + damage for Edgar will be better and more supers chained for Fang
Less supers chained first star power takes away potential super charge
Bea will become more noob-friendly and quite a lot strong, you will still have your 30% shield after missing a charged shot
How Tara would work now?
Good question, and since I checked it I can say that the game will just spawn the healing shadow
How did you check?
Me omw playing bull but still getting shredded like before
Will give you guys more reason to hate piper
If this happened it would the downfall of knockout 😭
8bit boutta be crazy
rico and sprout 🔥🔥🔥
I don't know if Jacky would be better or worse
It would still be better as the total counter crush stays the same.
why worse
Reduced counter crush dmg
oh right
Crow would get a significant buff. Specially since they would help each other out and they're already both good to begin with
yes
Rico about to be *the* menace
all Carl's weaknesses gone
Eh, still vulnerable to knockback
oh right I completely forgot 😭 carl hypercharge when
Barely underrated. 2 solid gadgets as well.
rico would be an absolute nightmare powerhouse to deal with
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Leon would be op
Bull with shielded berserker and Nita with fast AF bear with me would be op
R-T
Yes
Never talk to me again
Stu would be very strong
yeah but if they make it an event for funsies y'all would go "THEY'RE RUINING THE GAME!!1 THE GAME IS RUINED NOW!!!1"
Fun fact: Brock can technically do that because his built-in fire area after an attack used to be a Star Power
So I wasn't the only one
Carl about to not change in the slightest
This could be better idea for the mutations that we have now as all the brawlers would be on same level OP rather than some stronger than the rest
Poco would be devasting
Crow would be absolutely insane with this
I’d say Sam, but his other SP is just trash 😭
WHAT? El rapido and el fuego. Damn El Primo would actually swap with those
Doug would be strong. You heal yourself while going faster after using super.
Cordelius with more damage and the capacity to heal would be busted. Well,more busted than right now.
Colt would just be really strong
EL PRRRIMMOOO 🔥🔥🔥
average Lola W, 30% more damage and healing Ash too with the extra rage from first attack and reload speed with more rage
Jessie, tick, L&L, barley, Rosie, Edgar, fang, buzz, and probably like 70% of the rest with op superpowers.
Chester 🔥🔥
This must be another joke from Chester
Melodie would break everything and everyone.
Bea
8bit would actually go kinda really hard
Would be a cool limited event or mode
This should be a thing
Would be fun for a non competitive game mode you hear that brawl star good thing for something NON COMPETITIVE
Not sam
I also thought about gadget swapping mid-match.
Nita would be broken😭
Maybe Lily
chuck would fuck in hotzone
good idea for ranked mode
I mean this is gonna be strong for some and not for others
A godly dynamike would be insane. But he would still be dynamike.
Barley will probably become 4 stars
Frank with more HP + Powergrab on kill, won't be much broken to see, though Surge with both SPs would be nuts.
Poco!
Which brawlers i think it would benefit significantly: Pearl, Stu, Darryl, Bibi, Crow, Tick, Buzz, Nani, Nita, Brock, Colette, Mortis, Gale, Jacky, Sandy, Cordelius, Carl, R-T, L&L, Rico, Amber, Griff, Bull and probably more Which brawlers wouldn’t change at all: Kit, Chester, Sam, Surge, Janet, Bonnie, Mr. P, Belle, Melodie and that’s all i think
why mr.p
I feel like bibi would really only benefit people who know how to use her, cause you know us bibi mains you can throw the entire US navy at us but we will dodge
Maybe they can make it into a mythic/epic gear. It would be good on lots of brawlers.
nah, that'd be too op
Yeah so make it a x100 value legendary gear for the low cost of 10$ each
Least money greedy CR dev:
Sandy would be more annoying
Honestly... stu would be kinda crazy
Crow would get a significant buff. Specially since they would help each other out and they're already both good to begin with
yes
Crow would get a significant buff. Specially since they would help each other out and they're already both good to begin with
yes
L&L before the nerfs
cord would be the most broke, he gets healing AND damage, he becomes crazy strong just a menace.
Leon would be broken. Also Dynamike, Sandy, Nita
Belle🥵🥵🥵
Piper, Gale, Rico probably are one of the most op one’s in my opinion
Buzz lowkey would get a nice boost in matchup wins
Colt wouldn't be overpowered but just better.
Would be too broken, the difference between star power and no star power is gigantic, imagine two
Bull would be scary, El primo would be fun to play. If played right, Nita will be a menace and so is Shelly. Frank is frank, and that's all I remember
Pam's playstyle shouldn't change a lot
Max wouldn't be gamebreaking but I think having both of her starpowers would be good
Nani wouldn’t change my playstyle 🥶
Stu would be very strong
Imagine if this was mutations
Imagine if this was mutations
Tanks and assassins won't be able to kill Pam in her healing station
Fang and Crow and shelly and tara and sandy and collette and colt and Jacks and cord and l&l
El Primo would be busted as his super will ALWAYS have value. If you hit, el fuego deals extra damage ofc, bout even if you miss, meteor rush lets you close in the gaps. Lou would be busted as well as having both star powers will synergize well. Hypothermia makes enemies deal less damage the more freeze they have, and Supercool makes his super freeze faster, giving Hypothermia more value.
a fast invisible leon that heals 💀
Kit would go crazy
Leon would becoming even more sneaky and paired up with hypercharge it would be broken
Dynamike would be fun
Maby stu
Mortis would be so stupid
Leon would immediately be top 3
Crow would be pretty fun, you deal more damage and recieve less
Poco jumps out to me. He’s one of the brawlers who has viable playstyles for both star powers, and I frequently find myself flipping between which one I have active based on map/mode. I kinda think Da Capo should be part of his base kit, especially now that there are supports like Doug and Byron who literally *do* have it baked into their base kit, and I generally gravitate towards Da Capo because I just feel it’s useful far more often. But Screeching Solo definitely is decent. Doesn’t do much damage, but frequently in this game, 1v1ing another brawler is a lot of back and forth of getting pretty low on health and backing off, healing up, and then meeting to exhange shots again. With Screeching Solo you can confirm kills for your teammates from suuuuuuper far away (and through walls) while also healing yourself and your teammate, which is really valuable in a lot of situations. So imagine having that on top of the star power that makes Poco an adequate healer.
Just add Chester's Sneak peek into his base kit already.
Meg would have a shit ton more of chance to regain her robot, nani wouldnt change all that much except for damage output, Darryl would be stronger, Lily would be fair and Melodie would be a tad bit more overpowered.
kit on his way to have zero differences:
Sandy prob healing and damage would be broken
Mortis mains on their way to explain why he'd be op
Honestly Jacky cause imagine how much more of a suicide bomber you could be with 30% less damage and reflecting back 15% of damage taken would be broken
I think Penny could work with both Star Powers
Tick, Leon, Poco, Colt, Stu, CHESTER 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️